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[–]jcd1974 707 points708 points  (58 children)

Government promptly spends it on a hammer for the Pentagon.

[–]sysadminbj 164 points165 points  (43 children)

How does something like this work? I would assume that the money would go to something holocaust related like the museum.

Surely they didn’t just dump the money into the general account.

[–]mart1373 229 points230 points  (12 children)

Surely they didn’t just dump the money into the general account.

And that’s where you’re wrong. It just gets put into the Treasury Department’s general fund, unless the couple specifically stated a contingent use of the funds.

[–]SixshooteR32 16 points17 points  (7 children)

Even then that contingency is really only a suggestion..

[–]mart1373 80 points81 points  (4 children)

And that’s where you’re wrong. Donor intent, specifically the purpose of the use of funds, is a contract between the donor and the recipient of the funds. If the recipient fails to uphold the donor’s intent, any other heirs that were named in the will, if any, could sue the federal government to uphold the donor’s intent. The premise is that other heirs could have received the bequeath instead of the organization that received the funds, and if that organization is not upholding their end of the bargain, then the other heirs would be harmed. There have been several court cases that have come as a result of organizations not using the funds according to the donor’s restrictions.

In this case, though, it looks like there were no other heirs to the couple’s estate, so there would’ve been no other heirs to sue.

[–]Atibana 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I like when you say "And that's where you're wrong". It makes me feel like a movie scene was just cut where the narrator is interrupted by a new one, and theres the record scratch sound.

[–]SixshooteR32 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I guess I didn't consider that... is that something that can be enforced by family heirs vs other family heirs? or just family heirs vs institutional heirs?

[–]mart1373 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I’m not a lawyer (just a tax accountant with enough legal background to be dangerous), so I’m not sure; I would assume that individuals who receive a restricted inheritance would have to follow the same type of restrictions.

[–]Carnilawl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish there were another "and that's where you're wrong" in this chain. Maybe I can trigger one.

clears throat

I'm operating under the assumption that 2017 was a dull year for students of constitutional law.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Not really. If you were to donate $1 or $1,000,000 to your alma matter and earmark those funds for chemistry lab supplies, the school could only use the money for chemistry lab supplies. Not for redecorating the president’s house or for geology lab supplies.

[–]chgrogers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes then they would use the Donated Money for Chemistry Supplies and since unrestricted funds didn't get used to redecorate the president's house.

[–]acidus1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So there is a way to get the government to fund a Death start after all.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Do you know if someone could ask that the US govt. spend that money on reducing the National Debt?

[–]mart1373 1 point2 points  (1 child)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice. Thanks! That site sure as hell doesn't look .gov material haha (in UI, I know it actually is a govt. site).

[–]philberthfz 35 points36 points  (24 children)

Depends on how it was bequeathed, but generally monetary gifts to the United States are just dumped in the general account and made available for general budget.

[–]Radidactyl 27 points28 points  (23 children)

generally monetary gifts to the United States

Does this happen that often? I'd rather die before I voluntarily gave my money to the U.S. government.

[–]antagonisticsage 12 points13 points  (1 child)

It seems to happen often enough that there's a webpage for people who are interested in doing this: https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsfaq/fs_gifts_to_govt.htm

Yep, donations made to the U.S. government are actually handled by the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, one of whose functions it is to handle monetary gifts of this kind.

[–]dannyfantom12 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Where's the state departments patreon

[–]mart1373 12 points13 points  (16 children)

Why? The government is essentially an organization created for the public good like any other charity. Granted it has a shit ton of bureaucratic layers and many inefficiencies, but at the end of the day the funds would go toward providing a public service for the benefit of the people. I don’t know how voluntary donations would be bad for society.

Granted we all hate paying taxes (shit, I’m a tax accountant, and I know taxes and how to pay the least; nobody should be obligated to pay more than what they legally need to pay), but taxes are meant to carry out the government’s overall purpose and mission of providing for the public. Making a donation would only help further the cause.

[–]locks_are_paranoid 5 points6 points  (0 children)

the funds would go toward providing a public service for the benefit of the people

Most likely it would be used to buy weapons.

[–]MagicWishMonkey 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I honestly don't understand this attitude, it's so shitty.

I have no doubts that my life would have been a whole lot shittier without various government programs (like roads, regulated healthcare, free public schools, fafsa, etc.). If you weren't born to parents in the .1%, it's virtually certain that you've benefitted greatly from government programs.

[–]Radidactyl 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I am talking about voluntarily giving money after taxes.

[–]thedvorakian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Youre right, they should have spent it lobbying to make govt more efficient

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Then make sure you have a good estate plan.

Because dying without an estate plan is basically the same as voluntarily giving money to the government.

[–]baldmannbob 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Anyone can gift a check or cash, gold, etc to the government. Easiest way is a check made out and then mailed to Treasury of the United States Attn Dept G Bureau of the Fiscal Service P. O. Box 2188 Parkersburg, WV 26106-2188

[–]antagonisticsage 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hmm, just thought about it, and you almost certainly can deduct this from your taxes since you're literally paying the United States money. Voluntarily.

[–]delsol10 -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

If this is an attempt to get money sent to your address, I think you'll probably find more bags of poop and random potatoes mailed to you instead. Good luck tho

[–]baldmannbob 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Um, if you send that too this address, prepare to have the FBI pay you a visit. US Treasury

[–]Sodonotcare 128 points129 points  (15 children)

They payed off about 0.000004367466688538% of the US debt.

[–]Wild_Hunt 58 points59 points  (0 children)

National heroes

[–]sweYoda 18 points19 points  (3 children)

If only they used it to pay off debt...

[–]Sodonotcare 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Nope. They bought 5 hammers and a screwdriver.

[–]sweYoda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, but imagine how much profit they will make because they'll build something of value! ;)

[–]locks_are_paranoid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can send money to the treasury and specify that its used to pay off the debt.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/resources/faq/faq_publicdebt.htm#DebtFinance

[–]Wargala 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"paid"

[–]calumwebb 0 points1 point  (2 children)

i’m tired but could you please calculate how much national debt we have per person in the US so i can see how much we’d have to donate each

[–]Eticology 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one has to donate anything, that's not how national debt works.

[–]Elyk0619 0 points1 point  (4 children)

[–]bloodlustshortcake 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Well, that's a great way to completely erase a million.

[–]IncCo 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I get the gesture, but what a total waste. Guess that 1/10 of a droplet can go into the military.

[–]TemporaryBoyfriend 40 points41 points  (15 children)

Should go to the VA... they sure as shit need it.

[–]sweYoda 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Aaaaand it's gone.

[–]HiGodItsMeAnotherGod 67 points68 points  (5 children)

A wonderful example. To those wondering what happened to the money, after processing deductions, 90k of it went to a general spending fund in DC. Of The deductions, about 400K went to the governors general spending fund which went to his re-election campaign and 410k was for processing fees for the lawyer who handled the donation. I heard he used it to purchase a very luxurious oriental rug. A wonderful tribute to this great couple.

[–]BastardOfTheNorth89 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Sounds about right.

[–]mrubuto22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

True morons.

[–]Shadow_Of_ 23 points24 points  (5 children)

The government already has money. The money could be something to help their immidiate family.

[–]mrubuto22 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Yea this is the dumbest thing I've ever read. Did they not also pay taxes for 60 years and most likely not commit any crimes? That's enough to thank your country.

That's like 1 hole of golf for Trump.

They should have donated it to an anti hate group or something.

[–]reggie-hammond 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Versus spending their money however they see fit. Do we view people as dumb when they bought bonds during wartime?

Truly not trying to be a dick.

[–]Sman6969 -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

I get what you're saying and I agree in spirit. I would never try and hinder someone from doing this, but I would damn sure tell me wife I think they're fuckin reerees when I got home.

[–]ICall_Bullshit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

...reeree? Really?

[–]mrubuto22 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If there was currently a real war going on then it would be fine.

[–]russianout 22 points23 points  (2 children)

I remember the story of a widow that had over $1 million and she willed it to the Fed. Govt. to pay down the national debt.

She could have done so much good in her community by setting up an endowment.

[–]mrubuto22 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That paid for about 3 minutes of interest payments.

[–]ibuprofen87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She could have done a lot of good for a few people, but chose to do little good for many people.

[–]Xelium23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That moment when you give money to a hillbilly and hope he won't spend it on coke and hoes.

[–]TehBeege 13 points14 points  (17 children)

Everyone is shitting on the government, but they fail to think of why they think the government is bad.

Vote better, folks. Vote for politicians with integrity. (Fuck you people saying that's oxymoronic. You're part of the problem.) If there are no politicians you're happy with, sign up as a candidate, or encourage someone you believe in to do so.

The government is made of people. The people suck? Replace the people.

"Oh, but it's the beauracracy that's bad." Well, how the hell do you expect anything to get accomplished without some level of beauracracy? Again, beauracracy is composed of people. Pick better politicians. Have them pick better beauracrats.

Thinking things are broken and not working on solutions is the best way to make things worse and become bitter. Stop that.

[–]pedantic_asshole_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Until we have campaign finance reform were never going to have a major candidate that isn't bought and sold by corporations.

[–]TehBeege 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree campaign finance reform is absolutely essential, and we need to work towards it. It needs to start small. Get local representatives that aren't bought out. Set up their behaviors as a standard. Show people it's standard. Get local laws passed and bubble it up over time

[–]uaoguy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly this. Try to imagine yourself in many of the other countries where you have no say, and if you do, you will wish you hadn’t!!!

Inspite of the current seemingly incredible divide, transfer of power happens peacefully!

[–]StealinYoToothbrush 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Change does not come from within. If you actually wanna change things,you need to oppose the system and not legitimize it by voting. Freedom is not given from above, but fought for from the lowest ranks.

[–]TehBeege 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Are you advocating violence, sir? Something tells me that's against some sort of guidelines...

[–]StealinYoToothbrush 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Oh no, the sacred laws. Who gives a crap when you can get away with it. People need to do what is morally right, not what is legally right.

[–]TehBeege 0 points1 point  (7 children)

It sounds like you consider violence morally right. That's troubling.

[–]StealinYoToothbrush 0 points1 point  (6 children)

It's troubling to think that violence is always wrong when all historic changes, wether bad or good, were achieved through it. You don't talk a dictator down.

[–]TehBeege 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I cite India.

[–]StealinYoToothbrush 0 points1 point  (4 children)

India achieved it's independence, but it did not change socially. To this day India even still has a caste system in many places. It still is capitalist. It only had a chance in government. Those who actually tried to change that in India were killed during and after the independence. It was no social progress or change. It solely achieved it's political sovereignty.

[–]TehBeege 0 points1 point  (3 children)

"only" lol

India's culture historically supports a caste system. It's been endemic to their thought for centuries, partially tied to Hinduism.

That said, social changes are certainly not brought about by violence. That sort of thought is what led to ISIS

[–]StealinYoToothbrush 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Any revolution was achieved through violence. Monarchies basically do not exist anymore, because of violence. Only violence ended the fascists in Europe and only violence allowed the people of several countries to become free, even if only temporarily. Take the Russian revolution as an example. If they hadn't used violence, they would just have been shot and taken down.

Your argument still ignores that it hasn't brought India any social change. You even confirmed it yourself that India supports a caste system.

[–]mrubuto22 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

I do t think anyone's shitting on the government, just the idiots who flushed 900k down the toilet.

[–]TehBeege 4 points5 points  (1 child)

That's exactly what I mean.

They thought the government provides value and wanted to give them more resources to help them provide more value.

Everyone here is saying they wasted their resources by giving them to something that provides no value.

They're not saying it directly, but it is directly implied.

[–]mrubuto22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No it's not. They are so stupid because it such a tiny amount it's a drop in the bucket. It improved no one's life. Basically they have everyone 3 pennys

[–]sullyluv1234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Please make a movie. Or someone write a really good book, please.

[–]tone430 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I hope the government had to pay inheritance tax on it.

[–]aurelorba 1 point2 points  (1 child)

They can pay 0% or 100%, It makes no difference.

[–]tone430 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I know. Just sour grapes on my part.

[–]Belrick_NZ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A great time to remind anti tax reformers that you are free to pay more than your tax bill.

[–]scalesfell 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Freedom is great isn't it.

[–]nascarracer99316 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sounds like the couple was delusional towards the end.

[–]freesp33chisstilldea 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What an idiotic decision.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sure someone will find a way to twist this anecdote to supoort the notion that refugees don’t contribute to their adopted nations.

[–]ACAB_420_666 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's the dumbest thing ever. Literally nothing wastes as much money as the U.S. government does. Should have donated to an institution that needed it, like an orphanage or animal rescue.

[–]bram2727 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well I think it's an awesome sentiment.

[–]f1del1us 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm.... I always believed taxes were my 'thank you'....

[–]baldmannbob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd bet they'd want it back today.

[–]serk1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would that cover a Trump golf trip?

[–]cupofcoffy 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I think this is awesome and I wish more people had this attitude. I know its popular to bash the government, and rightfully so. Everyone has a "get mine" attitude, and certainly the politicians have that mentality too. Wish we could somehow value something more than money.

[–]An-Ayn-Random 6 points7 points  (3 children)

wish we could value something more than money

praises people for giving money

[–]cupofcoffy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That's what you took away from my reply?

[–]pedantic_asshole_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's what I got from it too

[–]SirReginaldBartleby 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And it was immediately wasted. I really hope they weren't Jewish.

[–]devilishloki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most idiotic thing you could possibly do

[–]gwhh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That the dumbest thing I ever heard. You could form a charity or something like that. The government will just use it to buy something dumb

[–]dd-shiznit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a fucking waste

[–]flamingboard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"We want a refund."

[–]lolkatze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pay bonus for someone

[–]freakmn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately that is only $300k after taxes are taken out.

[–]applebrush 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who then used it to attack and terrorize other countries around the world.

[–]laz10 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Govt probably used it for ammunition

[–]tr1nn3rs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Govt probably used it for new file cabinets.

[–]rhysh01 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

These comments gave me cancer

[–]Ca1iforniaCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This makes me happy.

[–]Thoughtcolt5994 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile elsewhere in government...”I only want European immigrants in. Everyone else is from shithole places, are rapists and probably have AIDS. Boy this will help with my weekly vig to Putin.” - Donald Duck

[–]floofytoos -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

If they could see this shithole now.

[–]thedvorakian -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Most of it will go to oil and coal CEOs

[–]478607623564857 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I hope they weren't alive to see the tiki torch whites come out of the closet.

[–]iClue -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If only they knew that the US government actually has its own Nazis that hold the highest office! RESIST! PUSSYHATS! MICROAGGRESSIONS! ROFLROFLROFL

[–]hybridhuman17 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Though not much is known about the couple, Balkema said Peter Petrasek escaped to Ottawa, Canada, from Czechoslovakia, where he met his wife Joan, who was Irish, according to their neighbor."

Looks like they should have willed the money to the Canadian government

[–]VoodooChilled -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Misguided gesture IMO. The "government" is an abstract entity, a social construct if you will. A more appropriate gesture IMO would be to donate to a charity benefiting military widows who's spouse's lives were sacrificed protecting those freedoms.

[–]norealmx -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Living in a delusion your entire life... How sad.