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[–]Setagaya-Observer 131 points132 points  (28 children)

In the early 2000s, a deadly gut infection began to surge. After decades of lurking in intestines and hospitals—more opportunistic nuisance than lethal threat—the bacterium Clostridium difficile abruptly exploded, spreading rapidly and causing more severe diarrheal disease than ever before. By 2011, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated that C. diff infected nearly half a million people in the US that year, killing approximately 29,000.

Just WoW 😳

[–]yourmomspubichair 73 points74 points  (13 children)

I was hospitalized for an infection and developed C. diff. It nearly killed me, I was in the hospital for 2 weeks and on meds for long after. To this day I take daily probiotics for gut health.

[–]WTFppl 3 points4 points  (12 children)

probiotics for gut health.

Which ones, if you don't mind me asking?

[–]caramelized 20 points21 points  (1 child)

You should keep in mind all statements that their product has any benefits are qualified by this disclaimer:

These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

[–]WTFppl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, but does your statement hold to FDA allowed foods?

[–]wwoman47 -1 points0 points  (6 children)

Ultimate Flora is recommended by my dietitian; gluten and lactose free.

[–]GeoSol 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Why so many down votes?

[–]ChalupaCabre 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Not sure, but could be promoting a specific brand.. rather than stating generic types of probiotics?


[–]WTFppl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whoever are the downtrodden(DVers) I appreciate your comment... Thank you!

[–]27Rench27 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think reddit's just been trained to downvote "gluten free" on reflex

[–]ChalupaCabre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol one should test by posting “my dietitian recommends Super Flora Plus with premium gluten and minced meats”

[–]wwoman47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Learned my lesson: no brand names no gluten free on reddit :)

[–]surfingtolive 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The natural ones are best for me suffering from an autoimmune (which comes with a host of other illnesses) most of which are related to digestive issues. When I say natural I mean homemade yogurt, fermented vegetables, homemade sourdough or just even getting outside will net you some good bacteria for various reasons, the ocean might be the best outside source as it's microbial makeup is one of the closest to the human microbiome.

[–]WTFppl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I make homemade sourdough bread often. Love the stuff!

Thanks for the good info!

[–]iWreckYouz 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Quite a shitty way to die.

[–]heisgone -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

It’s a delicious way to die.

[–]_Z_E_R_O 18 points19 points  (3 children)

I know you’re making a pun, but C-dif makes you shit yourself to death. No amount of ice cream in the world is worth it.

[–]Sim0nsaysshh 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Not even phish food?

[–]WTFppl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

One lick is all you get.

[–]Jutboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wtf...obviously the best is half baked

[–]3Dogtown 74 points75 points  (10 children)

If this trehalose stuff is widely used as a food additive, what is it called on the label? I've read hundreds of ingredient lists on food labels and I've never seen "trehalose".

[–]John-AtWork[S] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

I was wondering about this too. It may just be labeled as sugar, as it is technically a type of sugar.

[–]moosery2 5 points6 points  (8 children)

Saw it for the first time the other day in some corn chips here in the UK (walkers under some other brand).

I looked it up specifically because some sugars give me a bad reaction (isomalt, sucralose..).

[–]sonnet666 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Really? You have a reaction to sucralose?

That’s pretty interesting since it’s supposed to not be digested at all by the body. What happens when you take some?

[–]moosery2 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I was trying to be vague because it's a bit vulgar, but I get a lot of wind. And it's notable.

It's not uncommon apparently.

For me, no other sweeteners cause any negative reactions, I'm not some crazy anti-chemical nut, I just noticed that sugar free sweets with isomalt caused massive wind, and from there also many other of the other alcohol sugars too.

Funny how on the web the only articles claiming "it cant possibly cause wind" are the ones sponsored by splenda. Tut tut.

Yeah it definitely does cause wind if you're intolerant of it.

[–]summerlaurels 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I get the same problem, it's very uncomfortable, and it starts almost immediately after eating it.

[–]CrohnsIsBad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know about moosery2, but in my case eating too much sucralose or other kinds of sugars may have contributed to a bacterial overgrowth in my gut, which comes with its own set of problems. (Gastroenterologists can test for bacterial overgrowth by having you eat sugars and then measuring the amount of hydrogen and methane - bacteria waste products - you exhale.)

[–]3Dogtown 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I wonder, if here in the states, it's allowed to slide by under "natural flavors" or some other catch all term.

[–]JenXIII 1 point2 points  (2 children)

[–]moosery2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"everything's natural if we say it is"

[–]JenXIII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, there are specific requirements that must be met to be labelled as natural flavor, but since most things occur naturally somewhere, industry does get away with shoving a surprising number of ingredients under this label.

[–]YouLookSoLovely 75 points76 points  (1 child)

"they found that trehalose didn’t make RT027 grow more—rather, it produced more toxins, leading to more severe disease"


[–]heisgone 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There is a movie about it.

[–]Meunier33 59 points60 points  (4 children)

Time to ban this specific sweetener.

[–]mapoftasmania 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Surprised there isn't a huge class action law suit. 29,000 deaths is a lot of cause.

[–]matt2001 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Very interesting:

“On the basis of these observations, we propose that the widespread adoption and use of the disaccharide trehalose in the human diet has played a significant role in the emergence of these epidemic and hypervirulent strains,” Britton and colleagues concluded.

[–]49orth 19 points20 points  (10 children)

[–]MisterMetal 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Botox is botulism. Its not unusual for some strange things to have useful applications.

[–]nanonan -4 points-3 points  (3 children)


[–]geneticanja 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Botox can be useful, not only a vanity thing. There are people with extreme transpiration. When it is really bothersome (like having soaked clothes after just an hour of wearing, or being socially uncomfortable because of it) botox injections under the armpits get rid of that excessive sweating.

[–]SerenityM3oW 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is also used to treat muscular conditions. It certainly isn't only cosmetic. My guess is that the cosmetic aspect was discovered by accident

[–]pkzilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It can also be used to treat migraines.

[–]tsuLust 13 points14 points  (7 children)

I haven't aten ice cream in a long time and I was just in the mood for some ...Not anymore

[–]LesBFrank 13 points14 points  (4 children)


[–]andthesunalsosets 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Normally I'm against grammar corrections but, yes, this was particularly egregious lol.

[–]TheSoundOfTastyYum 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's just a dropped letter e away from being eaten.

[–]tsuLust 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Never was a English teacher

[–]GaliKaHero 5 points6 points  (0 children)


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[–]LIKEASTONEDMONKEY 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I scream ... you scream... we all scream ...

oh shit

[–]coastbutter 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I knew a guy who was on vacation is Spain and entered an ice cream eating contest. he ate so much, that he ended up developing really bad GI issues (he described them similar to crohn's disease) and became borderline diabetic afterwards. I wonder if it was related.

[–]sacredfool 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No, he probably just mechanically damaged his stomach/intestines which resulted in deficits caused by not absorbing nutrition elements correctly.

Pumping your stomach full of ice cold sugar with milk is not very smart!

[–]Ximrats 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really want some ice cream now

[–]OliverSparrow 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Factoid: Trehalose is the blood sugar of bees. It builds up in specialist water stressed plants, helping them to survive extreme desiccation. Some of these rely on micro-organisms to make the trehalose for them. Some Australian species allow their internal organelles to break down into a sort of glassy soup, from which they re-assemble undamaged when water becomes available.

[–]Ujokeme -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Fact: Factoid means incorrect information presented as true.

[–]OliverSparrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not on this side of the ditch. Here, it means a stand alone statement without context of much justification, but which provides a dramatic punctuation or introduction to something more moderate. "Mysterious explosion of deadly plague..." is not quite a factoid, but then it's not quite a fact, being neither a mystery nor an explosion. (Or strictly speaking, always deadly, or best understood as a plague.) :)

[–]1nquiringMinds -1 points0 points  (1 child)


It can also mean "an interesting item of trivia". Both definitions are correct, so OC wasnt wrong.

[–]Ujokeme -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I suppose, but that is only because some people used the word incorrectly for so long. It’s intention is the definition i sited.

[–]10_Eyes_8_Truths 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Never thought I would ever say i'm glad I'm lactose intolerant

[–]Dustin_00 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Given the properties:

Trehalose’s strong bond means it’s resistant to breaking down in high temperatures and acidic conditions. It also seems to have a gel phase that stabilizes and protects cells from extreme dryness and cold.

This stuff is probably used in lots of canned and frozen foods.

[–]SinglelaneHighway 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Hmm - although it makes for a great headline, in practice I wouldn't change my behaviour wrt to occassional ice cream consumption. Moderation, people!

from the original commercial use study:


"Trehalose (alpha,alpha-trehalose) is a naturally occurring sugar containing two D-glucose units in an alpha,alpha-1,1 linkage. Trehalose functions in many organisms as an energy source or a protectant against the effects of freezing or dehydration. ... On the basis of these toxicity studies, human studies in which doses of trehalose were administered to various populations, and consumption of trehalose in commercial products in Japan, it is concluded that trehalose is safe for use as an ingredient in consumer products when used in accordance with current Good Manufacturing Practices.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trehalose is also very prevalent in shrimp and insects.

[–]Dustin_00 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Moderation, people!

This has zero to do with the amount consumed.

If you have the bacteria AND you consume this sugar, it's a bad combination.

It's purely a matter of timing.

The article calls out that it's a nuisance in hospitals, so the best basic plan is to avoid ice cream when in hospital, and maybe for a couple days after you visit one.

[–]SinglelaneHighway 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Given the fact that it is naturally present in a number of food groups in low concentrations and that the bacteria respond to it at very low concentrations, I would still maintain that moderation is important. That is, moderation by infrequent intake as well as total volume rather than a daily intake of a small volume of, say ice cream

[–]Dustin_00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Given the sugar's properties and the fact that it isn't called out on labels, it sounds like you have to take in only a small volume of anything frozen or canned.

[–]KeeperofAmmut7 1 point2 points  (0 children)


[–]coconutmofo 4 points5 points  (32 children)

Sugar is just bad.

[–]Ximrats 3 points4 points  (3 children)

How so? I presume you mean sucrose, too?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think by sugar he means natural sugar and not artificial sweeteners.

[–]TheBloodEagleX 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Fructose should be considered an anti-nutrient at this point. Nothing good about it. Highly correlated to fatty liver, visceral fat & metabolic syndrome. Only gets metabolized by the liver unlike glucose. Sucrose is 50/50 glucose & fructose.

Fun enough, the one mentioned in the article is trehalose, which is two glucose molecules combined.

Trehalose has about 45% the sweetness of sucrose at concentrations above 22%, but when the concentration is reduced, its sweetness decreases more quickly than that of sucrose, so that a 2.3% solution tastes 6.5 times less sweet as the equivalent sugar solution.

[–]TinaTurner69 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Mystery clickbait