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[–]leftyfro 8123 points8124 points  (728 children)

I once rode in a car with someone I had never rode with for a short roadtrip. On the highway, pushed their foot on the accelerator for 1-2 seconds, then let off the accelerator for 1-2 seconds, for the WHOLE 35 MINUTES on the interstate.

You noticeably felt the acceleration, and then felt the fall back from lack of gas. THE WHOLE WAY.

I am not one to get carsick. I was getting carsick. Had a few opportunities to ride with them again, I declined.

[–]wtf-m8 1070 points1071 points  (173 children)

I was driving in slow traffic (just slow moving, not completely stop and go) and I heard behind me and to the right this VROOOM... pause.... VROOOM....pause....

Eventually the noise comes up beside me and of course dude's on his cell phone, 3 or 4 car lengths behind the guy in front of him. All of a sudden VROOOOM and then he's right up on the guy in front of him, and slams on the brakes (he was moved forward in his seat pretty violently from the braking). His lane continued to pass mine for a while, the whole time he's either not accelerating at all, or just barely avoiding smashing into the guy in front of him.

I think I would go insane if I had to ride with him (although I don't ride with people who use the phone while driving) or got stuck behind him.

[–]leftyfro 547 points548 points  (9 children)

My blood pressure went up reading that.

[–]commit_bat 156 points157 points  (3 children)

My blood pressure went up hard for a second or so but then it went down again

then up again

[–]grandpa-wizard 204 points205 points  (36 children)

I fucking hate people who are on their phones while they're driving. They're either slow, dangerous or both. I can't count the number of times when someone's impeding traffic all around them and it turns out they're on their phone.

People who swerve in and out of their lanes, drive erratically, they're slow, almost rear-end people, camp in the left lane, I fucking hate them all. I feel like I need to see a professional about the murderous rage I get when I see someone looking at their cellphone instead of the road, oblivious to the traffic jam they're creating behind them.

[–]mathcampbell 91 points92 points  (27 children)

Still have no understanding how that's even legal. It's completely illegal to even hold your phone (or any electronic device) whilst driving here. Even if you're using it for GPS etc (as I do), it must be secured in a way that doesn't need a hand to hold it...you can touch it (providing you're not distracted), but you're not allowed to physically hold the device...yet I hear of Americans actually sitting driving with tier phone in their hand, looking at it instead of the road etc. Gee, wonder why road deaths are higher....

[–]pekinggeese 79 points80 points  (7 children)

California even got fed up with the whole holding a phone while using GPS loophole. Now all phones must be mounted on a dash-mount if you want to use it in the car.

[–]catsRawesome123 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I live in California. People still drive AND talk on their phone with their PHONE NEXT TO THEIR EAR. I see it alll the time. Aghhh

[–]CraftyCaprid 8 points9 points  (0 children)

And next to a cop that doesn't pull them over so nothing will change.

CA law is a fucking joke.

[–]Plsdontreadthis 41 points42 points  (6 children)

It usually is illegal. It definitely is in my state. It's just not easy to enforce that.

[–]ouyin2000 141 points142 points  (92 children)

It could have been a manual. In steadily slow traffic, often 1st gear is too fast for traffic speed without using the brakes. He may also not be very experienced in a manual, revving the gas before letting out the clutch.

Sounds like he needs to learn what the Clutch Point is.

[–]kabin_is_awesome 90 points91 points  (53 children)

Just leave more room in front of you. Buffer zone baby

[–]TheRedgrinGrumbholdt 108 points109 points  (48 children)

Depending on the location, that might encourage people to cut you off. From slower lanes in traffic.

The kind of angry petty drivers that don't use turn signals and cause car crashes.

[–]DerBrizon 39 points40 points  (31 children)

Just slow down until the gap is bigger again.

I'm never in such a hurry that I'm alright with losing my life.

[–]americanmook 39 points40 points  (18 children)

Omg idk how people drive dude. They go 90 miles to shave 2 seconds off their trip. They ride the shit out of every car in front of them. If they even have to go lower than 70 they audibly sigh and start looking around to see if they can change lane

[–]shrubs311 24 points25 points  (16 children)

You can go 90 and drive safe. Maintaining distance, slowing down to pass, etc.

[–]Bellyman35 20 points21 points  (9 children)

Shit you can go 125mph if you just do those things. Its like people just shut off the 90% of their attention to the road and it makes everything slower.

[–]MAKE_ME_REDDIT 53 points54 points  (22 children)

If you’re driving a manual you definitely shouldn’t be on your phone.

[–]fogdukker 37 points38 points  (9 children)

I heard some people can smoke and drink coffee while making a left turn and shifting in a 30 year old car with no cupholders or auto cancelling signals and a shitty clutch.

I would personally never do such a thing, though.

[–]Siantlark 23 points24 points  (3 children)

But can you do it all while drifting and without spilling the water?

[–]psykick32 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You can't ruin the tofu.

[–]mogazz 24 points25 points  (3 children)

If you’re driving a manual you definitely shouldn’t be on your phone.


[–]nixcamic 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Pssh, I can drive a manual while on the phone and eating ice cream on a curvy mountain road. You have fingers on your hands for a reason.

I'm not sure if this is tounge in check or not.

[–]the_warmest_color 13 points14 points  (11 children)

Maybe he was learning manual...

[–]Gramernatzi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Is it common practice for people to be on their phone while learning a new way to drive a car?

[–]rtechnix 81 points82 points  (11 children)

Yep, that's my mom driving. I rarely get sick, in a car, plane, boat in choppy water, but I always get sick driving with her.

[–]mustnotthrowaway 99 points100 points  (10 children)

My mom too. I’ve called her out on it and she always says “that’s the way I was taught in drivers ed, you’re supposed to pump the gas.” I know she’s confusing pumping the gas with pumping the brakes which I believe was taught before abs when you need to avoid skidding out. It’s infuriating.

[–]FuzzelFox 61 points62 points  (6 children)

She may also be confusing pumping the gas for when you're starting a cold carbureted car which she may be old enough to have learned on.

[–]MatthewWeathers 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Or maybe she's thinking of "pumping the gas" at the gas station, which you have to do every week or so, otherwise the car will quit.

[–]kingnothing1 2208 points2209 points  (332 children)

That's terrible for gas mileage

[–]ritmusic2k 1343 points1344 points  (194 children)

There's actually a hypermiling technique called "pulse and glide" that nets you better fuel economy over time by spending half your time accelerating up to a certain speed and the other half of your time coasting down to a lower speed, and repeating.

EDIT: A lot of you are contesting this; some of you are chiming in in support of my claim. So here's more fuel for the fire: a lengthy tutorial on hypermiling, written by yours truly.

[–]Dusty_Bones 185 points186 points  (61 children)

Was in a prius with someone who did this. They also drafted behind a semi truck. I highly considered jumping out the window.

[–]loltheinternetz 108 points109 points  (57 children)

Oh man - they must be that kind of Prius owner who will brag about the MPG they got last month.

[–]Stohnghost 72 points73 points  (52 children)

I have a Prius, totally not worth the time to achieve the best mpg.. I can drive like a madman and get 42mpg...my Subaru STi on the other hand..if I drive like I stole it gets a wonderful 16mpg (19 at best).

[–]T-Bills 77 points78 points  (26 children)

Everyone loves to rag on the Prius but 45+ mpg driving normally and brake pads that last 50k+ miles? Sign me up.

[–]Stohnghost 22 points23 points  (2 children)

To be honest I don't even use the brakes much. I spend a lot of time coasting or I use mountain mode, B gear. If anything I tap the brakes to trigger the taillights for safety and then coast/mountain mode. But anyway, not a bad little car. When I've got the itch for speed I take the STi out for a spin.

[–]T-Bills 20 points21 points  (1 child)

IIRC B mode doesn't really help with gas mileage. Some good read here: https://priuschat.com/threads/best-use-of-b-mode.7124/

As for brakes, I think driving a Prius permanently makes me anticipate how much distance to brake ahead of a stop, with more gradual stops.

[–]Neato 5 points6 points  (2 children)

MPG is pretty shitty of a metric anyways. It doesn't really show the diminishing returns. Flipping it and doing Gallons Per Mile (really g/100mi) is much better.

  • So a 10mpg car uses 10g/100m.
  • A 20mpg car uses 5g/100m.
  • A 30mpg car uses 3.3g/100m.
  • A 40mpg car uses 2.5g/100m.
  • And a 50mpg car uses 2g/100m.

You can see that as your mpg gets higher the actual gas saved per 100m travelled gets progressively smaller. Every 10mpg up you go saves you 5, 1.7, 0.8, 0.5 gallons. Eventually getting a higher MPG is saving you pennies instead of dollars.

[–]funkybum 975 points976 points  (47 children)

Works best for hybrids... Not for gas only vehicles on a flat road. Hills.. may be a different story

[–]mark-five 492 points493 points  (32 children)

It's shit for EVs as well, pulseglide is really only great for the hybrids that happen to fit that weird middle.

I think all cars on hills are better off just gliding as much as possible for the down section and keeping the power band as average as possible on the way up, there's a mountain in Hawaii that you can drive down for almost an hour and recharge 40 miles more than you started with at the top just by letting the regen brakes do their thing, but you exchange a lot of that going back up.

[–]muffinhead2580 336 points337 points  (28 children)

You exchange more than all of it going up if you're going up the same mountain.

[–]the_warmest_color 80 points81 points  (26 children)

You’ll end up exchanging more than that on the way up if it’s the same mountain

[–]mark-five 44 points45 points  (22 children)

You do use a lot more than average going up! It's not that bad though, considering the total trip energy use is only the up trip minus 43 miles or so, there is no down cost and the down actually subtracts from the up. It's "free" energy because nothing at all is spent on the downhill, that all comes from gravity and the excess goes into that energy spent on the way up.

The neat part of hill climbs in an EV is you can see ICE vehicles falling off in performance as the air thins, but the EV just doesn't. You only notice the grade of the road is increasing when you look at the energy gauge and see its numbers are climbing.

[–]xHighFlyin 104 points105 points  (20 children)

The law of conservation of energy suggests that you will use more energy climbing, as some will be lost to heat and sound and such. Unless you are also charging using a solar panel, you can't possibly get more energy coming down a mountain than you used going up.

[–]mark-five 56 points57 points  (8 children)

Correct. When I say "it's not that bad" I mean against a gasoline car that burns both ways instead of recouping a portion of the up trip for the down half. You still double burn on the way up no matter the vehicle. In my garage we obey the laws of thermodynamics!

[–]EpicThotSmasher 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Is it the road up to the Observatory on Maui? Me and the wife stupidly took our rental car up there with half a tank thinking we would be fine, not realizing it's 40 uphill switch back miles. Gas light came on about 3 minutes before the parking lot.

Enjoyed the views and then nervously coasted the entire 46 ish miles downhill to the nearest gas station. Would not do that again.

[–]pahco87 20 points21 points  (3 children)

What he's describing isn't the slow acceleration required for hypermiling.

[–]HardcorePhonography 16 points17 points  (8 children)

Years ago I saw this old couple on TV who had broken some kind of record for gas mileage and were hoping to do it again with different tires designed just for that.

The lady doing the interview asks "so what would you recommend as the best way to increase mileage?"

This old lady blurts out "drive 10-15 miles below the speed limit."

How she was still alive after doing that is beyond me.

[–]frog_at_well_bottom 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Perhaps she lives in the middle of nowhere?

[–]FiFoFree 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Two-lane highways in a rural area.

Heck, I drove 10-15 slower when I was driving through Nowhere, Wyoming, provided there was no traffic around. That put me at 60-55 - the norm for where I'm from. Fuel economy went up dramatically.

[–]MonsieurMeursault 92 points93 points  (92 children)

I've heard from a maths teacher that flooring and releasing the gas pedal is actually the most efficient way, at least in theory.

[–]kkoch1 354 points355 points  (28 children)

Basically, to be efficient, just don't use your brakes. Braking is terrible for fuel economy

[–]IKn0wKnothingAMA 68 points69 points  (25 children)

That's how you crash into a wall.

[–]imperium_lodinium 131 points132 points  (7 children)

But you don’t waste any petrol! Totally efficient.

[–]ItsSnuffsis 40 points41 points  (4 children)

Yea, instead of using it, You give it back to nature.

[–]theReluctantHipster 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I read this in Jeremy Clarkson/Richard Hammond/James May’s voices.

[–]Moonster1337 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You're gonna need it for that sick explosion when you crash!

[–]urbanhawk_1 37 points38 points  (14 children)

You just need to time your speed so friction from the road will slow your car before you reach the red light.

[–]the_warmest_color 23 points24 points  (0 children)

But then also not drive slow and be an asshole/hazard

[–]loltheinternetz 20 points21 points  (11 children)

(For all those readers who want to try hypermiling) Within reason. Don't be coasting at 10mph when you're 400 feet away from the stop light.

Manual transmission drivers: Easy, downshift and engine break. In modern cars that should shut off your fuel injectors. And learn to rev match if you like your clutch, and want to feel like a race car driver.

[–]connorblikre 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I've heard that's a valid hypermiling technique sometimes

[–]shoelaces232 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Basically what drive by wire does right now in new cars. Engines are efficent at high load, so lowest possible gear that the car will still accelerate in (even at wide open throttle) is most efficient

[–]MakerofWonder 202 points203 points  (26 children)

oh god. Sometimes I have to ride with someone like that too. Constantly slamming the gas and brake like someone who just got their learner's permit. Floors the gas every two seconds for no reason and then lets off over and over. Jerks the steering wheel around incessantly like we're driving through a mine field, even on perfectly straight roads. Can't maintain a lane worth a damn. Fooling around with his phone for literally minutes at a time like he's trying to read a novel while driving. Waiting until the last possible second to slam on the brakes at every. single. stop.

And the funny thing is, this guy is way older than me and has tons more driving experience than I have. You'd think after decades of driving that someone would know how to operate a vehicle with at least a little finesse. I guess some people never learn.

[–]cantmakeupcoolname 94 points95 points  (7 children)

And the funny thing is, this guy is way older than me and has tons more driving experience than I have.

That's the worst. I have a friend like that. Every time I'm in his car I'm (calmly) calling him out and every time he's like 'But muh experience'.

[–]ExquisiteCheese 100 points101 points  (0 children)

"You're experienced at being shit. Good for you."

[–]DearyDairy 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Oh my god, I can't stand drivers like this, I have shitty joints and that style of driving is so fucking painful.

Once after being at the ER for a dislocated hip I was getting discharged sooner than expected so my dad came to pick me up instead of my mum and I was so upset, the nurses lecturered my dad for showing up in a truck, he had to lift me into the seat. He drives like a chicken bobbing it's head as it walks. We barely got halfway down the road before I was like "turn around, go back, my hip is out again" he was not impressed with my hip, I was not impressed with his driving. By the time I was ready to go home again my mum was free to pick me up in her tiny car and she drives like oil on butter.

[–]Josef_Koba 40 points41 points  (9 children)

I had a girlfriend whose mother drove like that - she couldn't maintain an even pressure on the gas pedal. It was really uncomfortable and I never understood why she did it. Personally I use cruise control almost all the time because in my truck it's really easy to end up speeding without noticing, especially in towns with a 30 mph speed limit.

[–]monkeyman512 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Practice doesn't make perfect, I just makes permanent.

[–]MadCatzPlayer2 28 points29 points  (10 children)

Yep had a cab on New Year’s Day this year do that. Luckily we were only on the highway for about 5 miles but he would get up to 65 (speed limit) then take his foot off the gas pedal and let it go to 55 and then went right back on it and got it back to 65 for the entirety of the highway portion of my ride.

[–]Elizzie98 45 points46 points  (5 children)

Omg my dad does this and I get sick every time he drives. He also listens to am radio a lot, so my brain associates am radio with sickness

[–]fuzzer37 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I associate AM radio with sickness, anyway.

[–]tbarrett97 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Every single taxi driver in Hong Kong -.-

[–]ouyin2000 16 points17 points  (0 children)

People that do this need to be called out. Every time.

[–]7LeagueBoots 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The headmaster of my high school drove like that. The other teachers made him stop driving unless he was alone in the car.

[–]Derianschrodinger 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I have a friend who drives like this period, it's the worst thing ever. He claims he's driving defensively. I think the only thing he is defending is people never wanting to be in a car with him.

[–]tahlyn 1984 points1985 points  (217 children)

I hate when people drive like that. Cruise control is a blessing.

[–]MajorNoodles 1086 points1087 points  (193 children)

That, and people who keep hitting their brakes even though there's no one in front of them. YES,YOUR GODDAMN BRAKE LIGHTS WORK!

RE-EDIT because apparently I wasn't clear enough: Based on some of the replies I'm getting, there's a couple things I need to clarify. No, I'm not tailgating them. Nobody is tailgating them, because most of the time there's not even somebody behind them and I'm watching them do this from a completely different lane They're also not going down hill. I usually see this on straight and level stretches of road. Hell, one time I was driving near a guy whose brake lights were illuminated for at least a quarter mile. Finally, they're not using cruise control. If they were using cruise control, they wouldn't need to hit the brakes repeatedly every 4-7 seconds.

TL;DR they're just driving defensively. They're just idiots.

EDIT 2: I don't think I'm making this clear enough. This is not a brake check because you can't brake check someone WHEN THERE IS LITERALLY NOBODY BEHIND YOU. Most of the time I'm watching them do this from a completely different lane.

[–]kkoch1 685 points686 points  (159 children)

So many people just don't understand that letting off the accelerator slows you down. People just think there is gas and brake.

[–]ItsSnuffsis 300 points301 points  (118 children)

Or, they just lightly step on the brake to turn on the lights so that you know they are slowing down.
This is what is taught in drivers Ed in Sweden, at least at my school. That is, when using the engine to brake, just step lightly on the break so your brake lights turn on.

[–]buttchugging_nyquil 281 points282 points  (54 children)

Or they're trying to turn off cruise control

[–]ouyin2000 58 points59 points  (1 child)

I do this when driving manual. Lightly tap brakes to turn on the lights while downshifting and using the gears to slow down.

[–]182424545412 35 points36 points  (0 children)

This is good practice while engine braking.

[–]Cyhawk 39 points40 points  (21 children)

If you see someone do that, they're most likely 2 foot driving. They're dangerous as fuck.

[–]Arto_ 36 points37 points  (2 children)

I’ve honed my driving and use brakes a lot less than i used to or need to. I see a tong of people used brakes on the freeway and a high percentage of them could just not use gas in order to get an immediate slow down. This also applies to city driving.

[–]vetofthefield 17 points18 points  (0 children)

My favorite is the speed-past-you-while-coming-up-to-a-red-light-and-then-slam-the-brakes.

[–]GoodAtExplaining 10 points11 points  (1 child)


Oh my GOD, those people get on my nerves. When they do that in traffic I panic the first time because there's nothing immediately suggesting the need to brake, so naturally I brake hard. Until I realize they're just fucking idiots, so I get away as soon as possible.


[–]couchpotatoguy 41 points42 points  (1 child)

This is a problem w/my new car with ACC (adaptive cruise control), especially in stop 'n go traffic. It doesn't seem to let off the accelerator, but instead seems to hit the brakes when unnecessary.

[–]Kaddon 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Is it trying to keep distance rigidly with the vehicle in front? Because if the vehicle in front is suddenly braking your car might determine that braking should be done in order to keep the exact distance to the car in front of you in time

[–]DaMonkfish 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Cruise control is a blessing.

It's a double-edged sword, I've found. I bought a car with cruise control a little over a year ago specifically because most of my commute is on the motorway. Whilst it's great that now my speed is maintained and I don't even have to think about it, it really highlights how much others vary their speed. There have been occasions where I have overtaken the same car 4 or 5 times on a 20mi stretch of motorway because they keep varying their speed, usually slowing down going up a hill and speeding up going down it. Similarly, catching up with someone who is maybe doing 2-3mph slower then me, then have them speed up and fuck off into the distance as I'm abreast them because we've crested a hill.

It is intensely frustrating. I fucking love driving, always been a petrol head, but I really want the autonomous car revolution to hurry the fuck up.

[–]Navydevildoc 1604 points1605 points  (192 children)

Adaptive cruise control is life on my commute here in San Diego. I can just relax and let the car deal with the speed.

I have really noticed my blood pressure improving with it.

[–]thisguy9898 313 points314 points  (158 children)

What's that?

Good God what has happened here

[–]Navydevildoc 998 points999 points  (142 children)

Adaptive cruise control? Think of it as autodrive 0.5. There is a radar unit in the front of the car that detects the car in front of you. You engage cruise control, and the car will automatically follow the speed of the person in front of you, adjusting the distance between based on your settings and the speed of travel (if you are doing 80 you have a larger gap than doing 25). You set the maximum speed you want to go, and let the car do the rest.

Mine even does stop and go traffic, so when things get mucked up the car just goes with the flow.

[–]tfc867 563 points564 points  (102 children)

This was the most important feature I wanted on a new car. Got it on my Honda Civic, and it is everything I was hoping for. It made me a more patient, calmer driver. I get in stop and go in the mornings, and I just let the car do it's thing (monitoring it, of course - it has done a wacky thing or two).

Funny thing is, several salesmen said about half of people didn't want the driver assist features. They are totally missing out!

[–]Red261 130 points131 points  (20 children)

Got it on my Outback. I will literally never buy another car without at least Adaptive cruise. Though, I'm hoping by the time I need a new car, there will be fully autonomous cars.

[–]saintofhate 96 points97 points  (10 children)

I will literally never buy another car without at least Adaptive cruise.

With the way I buy cars, it'll be another 10-15 years before I can afford a used one that has this.

[–]RVAndal 49 points50 points  (5 children)

yeah sadly I don't think I'll be able to afford one until I die and collect my life insurance

[–]TimeTravelMishap 14 points15 points  (7 children)

my 2000 cavalier has a CD player.

but i don't have any CD's.

[–]couchpotatoguy 16 points17 points  (7 children)

Just got the Accord. I love the ACC, but it's not great in stop and go highway traffic. It speeds up and stops too quickly, instead of just letting off the gas w/o hitting the brakes, or super fast acceleration just to slam back on them again 100 yds later.

[–]SteevyT 161 points162 points  (45 children)

Funny thing is, several salesmen said about half of people didn't want the driver assist features. They are totally missing out!

I'm one of them. I'm also buying a manual transmission which makes a stop and go adaptive cruise control pretty much impossible though.

[–]BloodArtZ 91 points92 points  (37 children)

Not impossible at all. I have a manual Cadillac ATS and the cruise control does not stop working when shifting and down shifting. If you had adaptive cruise with a manual that did this it would work.

[–]SteevyT 63 points64 points  (28 children)

Well that's cool.

Now if only some car manufacturer would put that technology in a small, manual, AWD, hatchback.

[–]WORKING2WORK 68 points69 points  (17 children)

Look into Subaru's

[–]QuarumNibblet 26 points27 points  (3 children)

and the vw golf. There are a rather lot of small manual hatchbacks with adaptive cruise control. AWD might be an issue and limit you to some manufacturers over others.

[–]mister_what 9 points10 points  (4 children)

The golf R has it. My gti is fwd and MT and it does ACC. I just have to pick the gears. Unlike other MT cars, the cruise control only goes off with the brakes, so I can upshift and downsgift as needed. The car also does lane assist and brakes itself.

[–]InflammatoryMuskrat 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I'm all about manual. The only assist thing I have is hill start assist because steep hills in a manual suck. I'll go manual until fully autonomous cars are out at which time I'll switch in a heart beat. As much as I like to have total control of my car, I'm totally down with just relaxing while it gets me from point a to point b entirely on its own. Kind of an all or nothing deal I guess.

[–]a_stitch_in_lime 21 points22 points  (2 children)

I was talking to my neighbor who replaced one of their cars with the new Tesla. He said the only bad thing about it is, when he switches back to their other "old" car, he has to remind himself that it doesn't have all the fancy speed controls, stay-in-lane tech and stuff.

[–]Biggie39 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Yup I went out of my way to get the sensing package. Lane keep and adaptive cruise are life savers. It’s incredible how much driver workload those two feature take care of. I’m noticeably less tired after sitting in LA traffic for a few hours.

I test drove several cars and surprisingly Honda’s seemed to work best, I will never buy a car that does not at least match up to those features.

[–]universaljoint 37 points38 points  (5 children)

Nah man. Manual transmission in stop and go traffic. Gotta work out the clutch foot.

[–]Matt_Snypes 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Left quad is slightly slightly more toned from the daily workout.

[–]Rustyfist 7 points8 points  (7 children)

What if the person in front is constantly accelerating/slamming the brakes?

[–]Navydevildoc 6 points7 points  (6 children)

It averages out. My car doesn’t do abrupt stuff unless the guy in front slams on the brakes.

[–]Coonts 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It automatically adjusts your speed to that of the car in front of you and maintains an adjustable distance. Most new cars have a package with it these days. Pretty nice tbh.

[–]funnyferret 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s how fast your blood is moving, but that’s not important right now.

[–]Osmodius 34 points35 points  (9 children)

I will never be able to buy a car without adaptive cruise control after having. Fucking does wonders for road rage.

[–]xXRaz3RHawKXx 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Dynamic Cruise Control and the Brake Hold feature make my life complete when driving in busy cities or highways. I love driving manual cars but the convenience with an AT and these features is simply unparalleled for commuters.

[–]Sofarbeyondfucked 814 points815 points  (59 children)

I totally understand. As a passenger it’s bad. Even worse when you’re driving a constant speed and pass a vehicle, only to have it overtake you so that it can all begin anew. 🤨

[–]54692d4558b62da01af1 554 points555 points  (56 children)

It's fun though passing the same car 7 times per hour because they aren't on cruise and "just have to be ahead of you"

[–]HarbyDarbie 185 points186 points  (21 children)

And I have a sneaking suspicion they think you're the asshole because you keep passing them, not realizing that your speed has been constant the whole time.

[–]Multi_Grain_Cheerios 129 points130 points  (18 children)

Yep, some dude in an AMG Mercedes did that to me on the way to Boston. Have my cruise set to 75 and just cruising along. I catch up to him and signal over a d he speeds up. I signal back to the right and over the next couple miles he slows down again. I signal over to pass and he speeds up. After 3-4 cycles I just say fuck it and gas it to pass him because Jesus, it's fucking annoying. He gives me he finger as I go by so I give him the call me signal. He then tailgates me the next 10 miles.

Money doesn't buy class I guess. Fucking moron.

[–]Tzipity 88 points89 points  (5 children)

Cruise or not, assholes like that who speed up the moment they see your signal and attempt to pass are the fucking worst. And they're often the ones who stay in the left lane forever, going under the speed so after the won't let you pass he'll they create the bottleneck of hell.

I'm a really chill, calm driver. I enjoy it. Even if I get lost some place I'm totally calm but these assholes are the one thing that get to me. Especially on those really long drives.

[–]Tejasgrass 28 points29 points  (0 children)

That was my mom while we were on a short road trip last year. This is the same woman who taught me how to drive and has taken me on many road trips in my youth, but now it's over a decade later. She hasn't figured out how to set the cruise control on her car yet (my dad talked her through it a couple times on the trip and honestly it was like 4 or 5 steps to set it, wtf?). So here we are driving down the interstate, passing people at about 70mph, and then she'll start telling a story or whatever. This distracts her enough to not watch her speed and she'd go down to 60mph. Then someone passes her and she gets all disturbed because that's the person she just passed, why can't they keep a consistent speed? And while she says that's she's slowly accelerating back up to 70mph. This happened over and over and over...

Then you have me in the back seat, trying really hard not to be a backseat driver because I definitely am one, holding my GPS watching the speed drop and increase, wondering what's the best way to say something because she just paid for a mini-vacation and provided transportation. I decided to ignore it.

[–]Sofarbeyondfucked 187 points188 points  (24 children)

That fuckin guy.

[–]54692d4558b62da01af1 141 points142 points  (23 children)

bonus points when you pass them repeatedly while on cruise ... at the same speed you set hour(s) ago.

[–]Sofarbeyondfucked 53 points54 points  (22 children)

Always fun to look at driver while passing them, knowing I’ll see him/her again.

[–]ExquisiteCheese 39 points40 points  (21 children)

I enjoyed that when I had a motorcycle. Sometimes I could find a decent driver going at a decent speed so I'd just sit in his draft. We'd pass and be repassed by the same cars. After a few of those you just have to tuck and twist by them for fun.

[–]TheRedgrinGrumbholdt 19 points20 points  (20 children)

I get why you do what you do but this makes me really anxious. It's not exactly tailgating, but close ish.

[–]SadlyIamJustaHead 30 points31 points  (18 children)

Oh no. :( Cars too? I always thought you guys were my car buddies on long trips. Like, find one random car that's going +5-10 and just follow him forever until one of you has to leave. Always made me sad. I didn't know it made some people anxious.

[–]Gequinn 15 points16 points  (10 children)

I think they're talking about being close enough behind them to draft.

[–]WyzeGye 11 points12 points  (9 children)

You can hit the slipstream up to around 150 feet back in a car. Likely even further on a motorcycle. Not as efficiently as if they were 25-30 feet back though. 50-75 is around where I'll stick.

[–]CardboardHeatshield 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Don't listen to that guy I always try to find someone to drive with. It always kinda sucks when you spend 100+ miles driving with someone and then you have to part ways. I always try to flash my beams at them before leaving to say goodbye.

[–]DoStuffAndStuff 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah me too. I tend to be overly aware of any motorcycles when they're around me so when they're just sitting behind me I can't really relax

[–]the_ocalhoun 18 points19 points  (4 children)

Times like that, it's nice to have a fast car.

By the third time or so, you just say "Fuck you, guy. I'm going to go 120mph for a few minutes, and then I'm never going to see you again in my life. Bye!"

[–]ubsr1024 218 points219 points  (7 children)

Ya know I was just thinking "I don't go on enough road trips with my attorney"

[–]MoreGull 52 points53 points  (5 children)

As your attorney, I recommend we....

[–]ubsr1024 32 points33 points  (3 children)

...take a hit out of the little brown flask in my shaving kit, and then immediately patent your "cruise control" idea.

[–]MoreGull 398 points399 points  (33 children)

I use cruise control as much as possible and it has revealed to me how many other drivers are inconsistent idiots. Oh, hi person I've passed 3 times already on CC, passing me again!

[–]SadlyIamJustaHead 170 points171 points  (19 children)

*cruise on

*come up on someone

*move to the left


"the fuck. Fucking maintaining your fucking speed if your'e going to fucking drive. If you wanted to fucking go this fast fucking be going it so I'm not all the way fucking over here when I should just be fucking chilling in the right lane with you god damn right next to me because your brain has latched onto my car speed, let me back in because I'm a lazy SOB-"

*Stomps gas

[–]secretlyloaded 72 points73 points  (6 children)

Or how about the asshole who will match your speed, with them in your blindspot, or with you in theirs. Speed up a bit and they do it again. After a couple rounds of that game I'll floor it just to get the fuck away from them.

[–]SadlyIamJustaHead 20 points21 points  (1 child)

I can forgive that for ignorance. Only reason I'm hyper aware of blind spots is because I rode a motorcycle for awhile.

[–]secretlyloaded 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I guess you're more forgiving than me. When traffic is flowing freely there is zero excuse to driving in somebody's blind spot or allowing somebody else to drive in yours.

Situational awareness isn't just for motorcyclists! :)

[–]MoreGull 58 points59 points  (6 children)

People match speeds all the time, speeding up when getting passed, slowing down when passing. It's herd behavior.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_PRIORS 25 points26 points  (2 children)

I've trained myself to deliberately do the opposite. People driving giant hunks of metal right beside me is, uhh, yeah, I would prefer to have some personal space.

Really good way to get a spooky ability to find the part of the highway that's in between two groups of cars and just sit there by yourself.

[–]MoreGull 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I call that strategy:
Blast the Packs
Maximize the Gaps.

Get through clumps of traffic as fast as you can, but then when you find a nice empty space between groups, try to maintain it, even it if means slowing down.

[–]Larry_Wickes 12 points13 points  (3 children)

SadlyIamJustaHead, I will tell you my cruise control secret for driving on the highway.

Set your cruise to 2KM/MPH UNDER the speed limit. When you do this; 99% of the time you will not catch up to another vehicle.

Which means you no longer need to change lanes, which involves putting on your signal light on, checking your mirrors, checking your blind spot, stopping your cruise control so you don't hit the vehicle in front of you, changing lanes, accelerating to pass the vehicle, and then the same steps to get back in the right lane.

Instead, you get to chill in the right hand lane, relax, listen to music, and turn the steering wheel as nessicary. Almost zero stress caused by other drivers with this method.

In addition, because you won't be passing many other vehicles (Thus speeding up and slowing down) you'll save on gas.

[–]thekbob 28 points29 points  (6 children)

I feel like I'm the only person that does cruise control in the right lane and have people ride my ass with one to three open left lanes. And I'm talking open stretches, not busy on/off areas.

[–]MoreGull 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I've had that happen before too. Odds are they are on the phone and completely zoned out. They're following you.

[–]TouristsOfNiagara 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I had a guy follow me to a complete stop on the shoulder doing that.

[–]siccoblue 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Try having two lane roads and highways your entire commute with no passing zones that are actually safe to use

Luckily I've recently switched jobs that has me leaving at 3am and driving home at 2pm, the empty highway every morning is a godsend

[–]ELFAHBEHT_SOOP 10 points11 points  (1 child)

My cruise control is broken, so now I just go faster than most people. Seems to solve the problem.

I guess I did that before, but it helps in this case.

[–]dizzy4125 35 points36 points  (2 children)

Back when lawyers were also cab drivers...

[–]ThorVonHammerdong 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Automation in the legal field gonna make a lot of lawyers into cab drivers.

Imagine their dismay when machines take over the cab business too

[–]intubator 180 points181 points  (3 children)

The most amazing thing is that the guy who invented it was blind.

[–]SonOfTheRightHand 58 points59 points  (1 child)

Very impressive that a blind person invented it, but I'm actually not surprised that a blind person was the first to be annoyed by it enough to want to find a solution. I'd imagine that they are more likely to feel the constant change in vehicle speed since, without sight, it's their only way of getting an idea of speed.

I'd also imagine it is more jarring in a way to not be able to see. I don't really know how to explain it but I'm a sailor and I've always been told not to close your eyes if you're feeling seasick; You'll feel the boat's rocking a lot more. Instead, focus your sight on the horizon to help yourself feel more stable. It just works somehow. For mild seasickness, at least.

[–]goonsugar 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This makes me really curious if blind people are more prone to vertigo, and how they would combat it..

[–]ocean365 16 points17 points  (0 children)

what the fuck

[–]THE_TamaDrummer 630 points631 points  (68 children)

This will get buried in the comments but Ralph Tetor did not invent the modern cruise control. My grandfather Frank J. Riley did in 1956 in Mississippi. We have the original patent and everything hanging in our house.

The original story goes, my grandfather invented it in 1956 after being stationed in Mississippi. He felt bad for truck drivers who had to constantly hold the gas pedal down for highway speeds and changes in elevations. He then originally created a design called the AUTO CONSTANT and held the patent for 14 years. He unfortunately never continued to renew the patent as manufacturers did not want any interest in the design.

Along comes mother fn blind Ralphy boy here who says he invented it due to his driver constantly changing speeds. He sold the idea to Cadillac and made some money off it.

My grandfather met him at a auto investor group somewhere along the way and ~~was removed for punching out Ralphy boy who said to my grandfather~~ "Oh, you're the asshole who held us up for 14 years"

Tl;DR: grampa invented cruise control but some blind guy took credit

Here is a source that explains in detail https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Cruise%20control

Edit: just called my mother who explaid that my grandfather didn't punch blind Ralphy boy but rather a Cadillac dealer showing off the cruise control on a floor model.

Edit 2: here's a picture of him for the people calling bullshit https://i.imgur.com/BkpL1TA.jpg

[–]madapasta 123 points124 points  (2 children)

If the first car to use it was in 1958 why did he not sue them for patent infringement if he invented it in 1956 and had the patent for 14 yrs?

edit: grammar.

[–]THE_TamaDrummer 88 points89 points  (0 children)

He was stationed overseas in Germany in the 60s and likely did not have the time to continue the efforts

[–]Fernao 22 points23 points  (2 children)

This reminds of of Larry David and the Cobb salad.

[–]Grizz_y 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Was that the one where Larry got a sandwich named after him at his favorite restaurant but he didn't like it?

[–]Fernao 11 points12 points  (0 children)

No, that was when a guy whose last name was Cobb got offended when Larry wanted to change his Cobb salad order because he claimed that his grandfather invented the salad. Larry later calls him out by saying that the salad was named by Bob Cobb, and the guy claims that Bob stole the idea from his grandfather.

[–]RobbMeeX 59 points60 points  (24 children)

But to be fair, all punches landed on a blind guy are going to be sucker punches, deserved or not. But good on him for calling him out.

[–]TheMonsterWithinYou 35 points36 points  (23 children)

So what? Having a sense disability doesn’t suddenly mean you’re excusable to scrutiny and can get credit where it’s not deserved etc

[–]Hazindel 29 points30 points  (3 children)

Yeah but how do we know he's your grandpa

Edit: gg

[–]hilariouspowerr 37 points38 points  (3 children)

Wow, not as bad but it reminds of all those times I would say something and get ignored. Only to have it repeated and everyone else continuing the convo without me.

[–]AceZombiee 21 points22 points  (2 children)

I hear what you're saying, but this reminds me of all those times I would say something and get ignored. Only to have it repeated and everyone else continuing the convo without me.

[–]secretlyloaded 18 points19 points  (2 children)

1) You can't renew patents.

2) Here's the patent in question.

[–]NeinJuanJuan 11 points12 points  (10 children)

I hope your grandfather found his peace.. punching someone after 14 years of unsuccesful effort shows how much it affected him.

[–]nmase 40 points41 points  (16 children)

The problem is using cruise control becomes a real pain in the ass because you have to deal with these drives in front of you. It becomes a fine art of making sure you get out into the other lane before getting to close and another car is overtaking you. You're then having to constantly having to go in and out of CC

[–]MoreGull 23 points24 points  (4 children)

You can speed up in CC and then just let off the gas and CC will resume back at your set speed.

[–]mjkos 42 points43 points  (8 children)

This reminds me of a time in the late 1980's or early 1990's when I worked as a bartender. It was a small local tavern in Naperville, IL adjacent to the town's railroad station. It was a slow weekday night. A few several and a group of four young ladies, all sitting at the bar. The ladies were talking and laughing; they were having a good time. A couple of the regulars were playing the juke box. Due to the sound level of the of the ladies merriment, the fellas couldn't hear the music. They asked to turn it up, which of course made the girls talk louder. This happened a few times. The music was pretty loud as was the gals conversation. I said to the guys, "I can control the sound level of those girls with this knob." I turned the music down slowly and as I turned it down the conversation gradually muted. As I turned it up they became louder. I even turned it completely off and the conversation stopped completely. It was a fun little experiment in human behavior. I'm not sure that this is the right place to post this story.

TLDR: At one time in my past I could control human voices with a volume control knob.

[–]radwolf76 19 points20 points  (0 children)

And I always thought it was just invented by a lazy person. Garfield the cat lied to me.

[–]hodyoaten 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Somehow I picture every scene driving with the lawyer to have Seinfeld music going, while the engineer grits his teeth and then complains to his apartment neighbors later.

[–]dylan2451 32 points33 points  (9 children)

I'm confused, would he speed up as he got to the juicy part of his story, and slow down when he was giving exposition? How does speech affect someone's driving speed, is it just a lawyer thing?

[–]gethigh_watchHBO 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Probably would slow down when he was focused on talking about something and then hit the gas again after he made his point and then repeat.

[–]TouristsOfNiagara 33 points34 points  (5 children)

It's a common trait among all drivers. That's why 'hands-free' phone calls are just as dangerous as holding the phone. Hand use is irrelevant. It's focus being diverted from the task of driving. The problem is we are too over-confident, and put minimal effort into driving. I spent a lifetime trying to put a dent in it, and I don't care any more. Bring on the AI.

[–]eyeGunk 27 points28 points  (0 children)

"You ever been sitting there 20-25 minutes and all of a sudden your like 'Oh my God, I'm driving!' and you remember. 'I'm going 75 miles an hour. I have been for a while. I could have changed so many lives.' Sometime my wife will ask 'Are you watching the road?' and I'm always like 'I am looking through the windshield, and I'm not going to hit anyone, but no, I'm thinking about the Beatles." - John Mulaney

[–]ILikeLenexa 12 points13 points  (1 child)

The engineer was blind. The noise of the engine was annoying him.

[–]JD90210 5 points6 points  (2 children)

For decades I’ve been using cruise control perhaps 85% of the time. I’m always aware of my speed as well as everyone else’s speed. Most cars on the road have that feature and if everyone figured out how to use it AND respect passing lanes driving would be a pleasurable experience. In addition to sensors which detect distance autonomous vehicles rely heavily on cruise control too.

[–]BeeStingsAndHoney 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I do long distance driving a lot. It drives me insane watching people vary between 80km/h and 140km/h in 110 zones the moment an overtaking lane appears. I want a sign on my car that says "I use cruise control, you're the douche bag" or something wittier...

[–]bth31383 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I had a friend who did this. His idea of going 70mph was averaging 70mph. So, he’d accelerate to 75 then take his foot off the gas till he was going around 65 then back to accelerating... I murdered him and disposed of his body in a 55 gallon drum. It feels good to get that off my chest.

[–]PintoTheBurninator 5 points6 points  (2 children)

My wife tells me that I tend to do this if I am talking while driving. Doesn't matter if it is to someone in the car or on the phone. In my case, it is a fluttering of the gas petal in a gentle motion. Now I go out of my way not to do it.

[–]SpookyMeier 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I mean its really just a PID controller

[–]FrickinLazerBeams 15 points16 points  (2 children)

In the old days it was vacuum actuated. There were no microprocessors running pid loops.