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Couldn’t find a better angle but had two feet down and full control when he fell to the ground, but of course it was incomplete and there was “nothing to challenge” :)

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103 points · 4 months ago

Whenever its a legit challenge play the option is never there, but for some random reason in the middle of a game ill get an automatic challenge. Madden logic for ya.

-27 points · 4 months ago(3 children)

That's stupid, let me waste my challenge.

I agree with you that it’s a bad design.

Allowing you to challenge it won’t correct the broken game physics/animations though.

Lol you got so downvoted for something so true. There’s no point to challenging, because it’s a totally imperfect simulation. Allowing you to challenge at any time would just mean you lose every challenge.

I’m just glad they got rid of automatic booth reviews in online modes. Nothing more annoying than the game just wasting time to tell you something it had already determined.

On a positive..... those graphics tho

That's a great tip-toed catch. Madden need to fix the challenge system

It's absolutely messed up that 2K5 had a better challenge system then current Madden does.

Yeah they did. They had a lot of options for challenges. I remember you can challenge the pass went forward or backward

Yep. It was nice that you could actually pick what to challenge. I remember I had a play one time where the guy clearly caught the ball but then stepped out and they didn't call him out. They had the option to challenge the catch or that he stepped out as opposed to Madden would just have you challenge the catch.

Yeah. You could. Challenge the line of gain Challenge where he stepped out of bounds Challenge forward/backward pass Challenge fumble/Down by contract Challenge INT Challenge completed catch or not

Those are all things unfortunately madden 2k18 doesn’t even allow us to choose.

Original Poster9 points · 4 months ago

It was a beautiful pass over the corner and safety as well, shame it didn’t count though

Jets
18 points · 4 months ago

You're forgetting that his left foot may have hit some invisible barrier so it didn't touch the ground.

The outcome was predetermined

That's what I hate, the prescripted shit. The aI basically says if you throw to any of these three receivers, it will be incomplete unless, you throw within a 30 foot radius of this particular cb, it will be a pick. Sometimes it seems the CPU just takes over and goes full FU mode and forces fumbles, gets picks, sacks, etc. For a couple of drives or quarters.

Dude I don't even like that you have to challenge anything. There shouldn't be any bad calls in a simulation

IIRC the devs actually did an interview on this. They explained that they code in a random chance for bad calls because bad calls happen in real life.

Yea that's a dumb reason. Literally no one wants bad calls in real life, why would you purposefully do something that is universaly disliked

9 points · 4 months ago

... Because it's a simulation, a game that strives to provide players a sense of realism. Well called games in the NFL are not garunteed, neither is it in Madden. However, OP should have been able to use a challenge. If it still went the wrong way, well that's a possibility in real life.

They could make Madden a literal 1/1 simulation without omnipresent cameras or time skips but no one actually wants that because those are things that undeniably boost the experience even though they are not realistic. The realism fans want only applies to the actual football gameplay not some referee's occasional brain fart. So wouldn't you agree that we already sacrifice a ton of realism for the sake of having a game that is actually fun to play in the first place? Aren't well called games irl objectively better for everyone involved? Setting aside actual gameplay mechanics, if Madden were to give us well officiated games at all times it wouldn't be hard to argue that it would be a simulation of football in it's purest, most enjoyable, form.

2 points · 4 months ago

I agree that it is dumb, but ea is focused on simulating the experience of watching an NFL game. That's why we have goofy cut scenes and bad judgements by the refs.

I hate this aspect of the game.

If it's in the game.. it works like shit in madden.

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5 points · 4 months ago

That is realistic though. Refs and challenging plays are shit in actual nfl games lol

Upon further review his left pinky toe touched a single blade of white grass thus making the catch incomplete. 4th down!

The Bills literally had the same td catch this year irl against the Pats and its was called back.

-8 points · 4 months ago(4 children)
Bills
2 points · 4 months ago

I don’t want to argue but no it wasn’t

I don't think you can say for sure. The angle that shows exactly when he got control doesn't show whether he was in-bounds at that point, and vice-versa.

That said, I agree that they were wrong to overturn it. You're supposed to go with the call on the field unless it's 100% unambiguous, and it was far from that.

Patriots
2 points · 4 months ago

I'll start by saying the rule is dumb and needs fixing, but i think the refs made the right call with the information/rules they were given. I also think if the call was made in favor of any team but the Patriots, nobody remembers it..

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1 point · 4 months ago

Agreed, i was livid, and im not a bills fan. Horrible call. But the one in the super bowl stood that should have been overturned.

There’s never anything to challenge. That’s been prevalent for the past idk 4-7 years?? Idk why we can’t just get the option to challenge whatever play we want

2 points · 4 months ago

Fumbles are a crap shoot always

Colts
2 points · 4 months ago

The WORST is when you throw a TD but the game registers at the 1 and you can’t challenge but on the stats it goes down as a TD just not the score

I had so many like this, playing against the computer where they have a foot out they call it a TD, it gets review for possession and the play stands!

I hate that’s shit. And forget about challenging the spot of the ball, often when I challenge a play the booth will look at something completely different than what I’m challenging. I’ve also never scored a TD that was ruled on the field as not being a TD and had it overturned. I’m not sure the game even knows how to do it.

I just bought this madden for 17 bucks, first madden I’ve bought since Adrian Peterson on cover, I can honestly say this is the most garbage madden I’ve ever played. You can clearly tell the development team has no knowledge of football.

Were you playing against the patriots

Original Poster5 points · 4 months ago

I actually was lol, my first round corner burned Butler on this play

I’d say it’s realistic then

It's always the best plays that get screwed over by stuff like this.

Classic madden

Didn’t have control of the ball.

That left foot ain’t down pimpin

Madden NFL play challenges has been limited for years. NFL 2k5 allowed for multiple choices on one play to make a challenge.

If you used instant replay you can't challenge. Been like that for years.

Patriots
3 points · 4 months ago

Not in 18, you can use instant replay without worrying about the challenge

I gave up on 18 pretty quick. Hell i started playing 12 again just because it's the last good one imo

If you review the replay before attempting to challenge, it won't let you. In my experience, the challenge system actually works decent if you don't replay first.

I like that you can actually watch the replay before challenging this year. Couldn't do that for a long time

Oh ok, was unaware. I still play 17.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

What? I was smart and didn't pay for a roster upgrade, like you. I don't think I'd be laughing.

Lol that's all these games are now, roster updates.

Roster upgrade???? Lmao 😂 😂

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