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Posted byL1 Proto-Quenya1 month ago

Probably the best response to CommonMisspellingBot I've seen so far (r/Duolingo)

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This machine kills prescriptivists260 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

That bot is shite

just a quick heads-up:
finaly is actually spelled finally. You can remember it by two ls.
Have a nice day!

If they remembered that they would have spelled it right in the first place, it's not even a mnemonic

EDIT: It gets even worse:

religous is actually spelled religious. You can remember it by ends with -gious.

Fucking hell, that's about as useful as saying "Having trouble remembering which year the Mexican-American War started? You can remember it by remembering that it starts with 18 and ends with 46!"

level 2

My favourite:

refering is actually spelled referring. You can remember it by two rs.

Not only is that absolutely not helpful, it's also wrong. There are three bloody rs in that word.

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L1 Proto-QuenyaOriginal Poster110 points · 1 month ago

The worst might be this one:

Hey, user, just a quick heads-up:

happend is actually spelled happened. You can remember it by ends with -ened. Have a nice day!

The parent commenter can reply with 'delete' to delete this comment.

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This machine kills prescriptivists50 points · 1 month ago

Completely counterintuitive

level 2

There's an old philosophy joke about how to remember which year Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations was published - it's the same year that David Hume died.

(1776)

level 3

I'm British, like both of those fellows, and still don't get the joke. Did something else happen that year?

/s

level 4

I checked and apparently restrictions on the cereal trade in Sweden were lifted during that year as well.

level 2
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level 3

I blocked it, along with the bot rating bot, and my reddit experience has improved by at least 50%

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level 5
16 points · 1 month ago

But everyone always fucking calls it

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Communication based around cryptic breathing and mouth sounds3 points · 26 days ago

bad bot

level 7

Are you sure about that? Because I am 99.99985% sure that xbnm is not a bot.


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level 8

Good bot

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level 2

I mean, it's not intended to be helpful, it's intended to be smug and patronising, as the developer no doubt is.

level 3
25 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

Y'know I'm not defending it or anything, but let's just be realistic here. A bot like this one is honestly a great (but perhaps inappropriate and annoying to everybody else) way for a programmer to practice skills like pattern matching. I wouldn't read too much into the developer's personality based solely on its existence...

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L1 english L2 cannon blast11 points · 1 month ago

You can remember it by remembering that it starts with 18 and ends with 46!

this kind of device actually does work for me and will stick with me my whole life. it's real weird.

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L1 Proto-QuenyaOriginal Poster53 points · 1 month ago

Shoutout to u/CommonMispellingBot, u/MisspellingisOkay and u/StopPostingBadAdvice for taking the right side in the Bot Wars.

level 2

Your very welcome, freind

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-log([H⁺][ello⁻]/[Hello]) = pKₐ of British English32 points · 1 month ago

It's spelled "vary"

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your a reptile w/ ir vision honey 🤷‍♀️44 points · 1 month ago

You can remember by It's spelled "vary"

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L1 Proto-QuenyaOriginal Poster17 points · 1 month ago

You can remember this by:

"er in the middle"

or

"vary sounds like very, but it just isn't right."

level 4
spiritually descriptivist9 points · 1 month ago

and "well come"

level 3

Have you ever tried putting misspellings in your bot's code to trap the two in an eternal battle of robot patronization?

level 4

Unfortunately if you misspell something in response the bot catches on.

level 5

That's disappointing

level 6
L1 Proto-QuenyaOriginal Poster15 points · 1 month ago

Unless it's trying to correct a French redditor. Then it's hilarious!

level 7

Incredible

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Is it a consonant or a phoneme?8 points · 1 month ago

Incroyable.

level 2

i try.

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L1 Proto-QuenyaOriginal Poster88 points · 1 month ago

R4: As the user quite eloquently stated, CommonMisspellingBot is well known for being a prescriptivist little piece of code that attacks users for small "errors," even if their point still comes across fine.

level 2

Hey, croissantfriend, just a quick heads up. You can spell words correctly by remembering this passive-aggressive and halfway useless advice:

When you spell words make sure you put the letters in the right order.

Have a nice day!

This is not a bot, this is satire.

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L1 Proto-QuenyaOriginal Poster45 points · 1 month ago

delete

/s

level 3
Dictionary! Diction is scary!31 points · 1 month ago

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L1 Proto-QuenyaOriginal Poster79 points · 1 month ago

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level 5

Hey, croissantfriend, just a quick heads up:

Sanskrit is actually spelled Sandscript. You can remember it by it's a form of writing, or script, made up in the Middle East where it's all sand, 'Sandscript'

Have a nice day!

I have become everything I hate.

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The Midwest is Mesoamerican37 points · 1 month ago

It's actually Han-script, because it originated in China.

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in jokes are forbidden13 points · 1 month ago

THE SAGA CONTINUES!

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your a reptile w/ ir vision honey 🤷‍♀️11 points · 1 month ago

It's actually "hand script" because it was written by hand.

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7 points · 1 month ago

That's just a folk etymology. Originally it was ham script, because ham is delicious.

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L1 Proto-QuenyaOriginal Poster5 points · 1 month ago

That's actually a common misconception.

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-log([H⁺][ello⁻]/[Hello]) = pKₐ of British English5 points · 1 month ago

I thought that was invented by Han Solo?

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The Midwest is Mesoamerican9 points · 1 month ago

My flair on /r/badhistory is "The Han shot first"

(I think it was related to some badhistory about how great all the Steppe peoples were and how everything nasty was the fault of the Chinese. Or vice versa, I can't remember)

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-log([H⁺][ello⁻]/[Hello]) = pKₐ of British English7 points · 1 month ago

That's absolutely fantastic

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Pidgeon English3 points · 1 month ago

You forgot GEGERISH and ULTRAFRENCH

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-10 points · 1 month ago(1 child)
level 3

It's a low-quality automated grammar nazi. "Polite" was a half-assed afterthought.

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-18 points · 1 month ago(3 children)
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14 points · 1 month ago

It’s not even particularly hard to learn correct spelling; people that spell things wrong repeatedly are simply lazy.

Learning disabilities aren't real, I take it?

Also, I can't believe here you are being snotty about spelling while at the same time using "that" to refer to "people". Obvs it should be "people who" blah blah blah.

level 3
"Bird" is actually a loanword from Esperanto10 points · 1 month ago

If you can't be lazy on reddit, where can you?

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L1 Proto-QuenyaOriginal Poster20 points · 1 month ago

You are being sarcastic, right? You hit all of the points.

Edit: Nevermind, saw your other comments.

level 1
22 points · 1 month ago

The thing that pisses me off more than all these bots is the fine folks responding “good/bad bot” to them and the bot responding back and before you know it half the thread is bot chatter.

God, I hate nearly all bots, with very few exceptions. E.g., the bot in /r/chess that looks at chess diagrams and parses them into machine-readable description and links you to online analysis boards set up with that position. Now that is a good bot.

level 1
46 points · 1 month ago

Descriptivism is all well and good, but an alternative spelling or grammar structure is usually quite different than an accidental mistake. No one is expressing their linguistic culture by writing "definately" instead of "definitely," for instance; they are making an accidental misspelling.

Standardized spelling is helpful in society for making ourselves most easily understood. Moreover even if you disagree with that, the society we all live in considers incorrect spellings in formal situations as a sign of lack of intelligence and/or expertise, so at the very least people need to know how to spell correctly for formal situations like job applications.

In summary, I do not consider the bot an inherently bad thing! Though it can obviously misinterpret a regional spelling or stylistic choice as an error, I think it's still worthwhile for the cases in which is helps actual mistakes be learned from.

level 2
35 points · 1 month ago

considers incorrect spellings in formal situations as a sign of lack of intelligence and/or expertise

I would be gobsmacked if many people regarded Reddit as a formal situation.

level 3

I'd say the register people write in on here is easily in the top percent of linguistic output (it's definitely more formal than talking to family members, friends and colleagues), which is what one should expect since it essentially consists of debating with condescending strangers.

level 3

Reddit is practice for formal situations.

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12 points · 1 month ago

I don’t know how arguing with people from the donald or chatting up women who post in subreddits that involve the letters gw is practice for anything formal. Do you get the impression that very many redditors regard this as a formal setting?

level 5

Not in gw or trolling subreddits but random subreddits like /duolingo or /r/linguistics are fairly formal.

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your a reptile w/ ir vision honey 🤷‍♀️10 points · 1 month ago

This is something I think about a lot. There's some critical mass that turns something from a mistake into a feature. If enough people wrote definately, that would be the word, or an acceptable form of it, but at the moment, it's a mistake.

level 2

"alot" isn't a misspelling. If that bot didn't include it I would find it much less obnoxious.

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the passive voice is stored in the balls2 points · 1 month ago

I'm upvoting this because it's well laid out but you should know it's the most scathing upvote I've ever given

level 1
12 points · 1 month ago

What's the descriptivist take on 'alot'? Is there rationale to consider it a word, in the category of 'aint' (in the sense that grammar says no but a lot of people use it anyway)?

level 2

There's reason to consider it an adjective such as myriad; most people mean it as a general size modifier, they aren't specifically referencing one lot.

level 3

That makes sense. I can see it particularly if someone's talking about a thing happening frequently. You don't imagine they're thinking about a set of things when they say "The dog barks a lot."

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14 points · 1 month ago

If you like to correct other people's 'mistakes', this is really not the right sub for you.

level 4

Where do you think you are?

level 4
7 points · 1 month ago

That must mean that they are utilizing myriad rather than using it.

level 2

The rationale would be that people use it and know that even if it's not technically correct according to the dictionary, we have no issue understanding what the person is actually meaning. Even this bot understands what they're saying. And since it's common enough for people to use, it's not unreasonable to think that someday it might be considered equal or preferable to "a lot" similar to how we got words such as "alright" and "OK" (and then "okay")

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A *true* prepositional verb is "up"23 points · 1 month ago

There's nothing wrong with pointing out misspellings when it matters.

If somebody fucks up "loose" and "lose", then sure, that can be confusing and maybe should be pointed out and fixed.

But everybody knows what you mean when you write "refering" there is no ambiguity there. Commonmisspellingbot is being pedantic for pedantry's sake.

level 2

There's nothing wrong with pointing out misspellings when it matters.

Agreed. And there's also nothing wrong with mnemonics for remembering the correct spellings of words -- if the mnemonics are helpful (which the misspellingbot's almost never are).

I once had two students with the same first name, and almost the same last name: Rodrigues with an S, and Rodriguez with a Z. This was one of those times when spelling matters -- it would be bad if I mixed the two people up while recording their grades.

If it's possible to make up a useful mnemonic (like, for example, if the guy who spelled his name with a Z looked like Frank Zappa, or something), then great.

But just saying "the one with a Z spells his name with a Z" isn't a useful mnemonic.

level 2

A bot that takes context into account to reliably detect those ambiguitious misspellings would be immensely more difficult to create though. Which leads me to believe that a misspell bot is just a shit idea in general and only serves to validate the creators smugness

level 3

I feel like it would be alot nicer if it just sent a PM so you can silently edit it, rather than just straight up calling you out, but that wouldn't really help stroke anyone's ego.

level 4

I suggested this the first time I got hit by one of these bots. Because not only was it annoying and smug, it was also accidentally triggered by me spelling the word correctly. So it'd look like I'd edited my post after getting corrected, but without acknowledging it.

The person who made it replied that they'd think about it.

level 4

There's absolutely no reason to randomly correct someone's spelling or usage unless:

  • They want it (e.g., they're learning the language or are a student)

  • It results in confusion (e.g., did you mean "my welcome mat" or "I'm welcome, Matt"?)

  • It's the topic of discussion

Doing otherwise is simply rude. It's not how people conduct intercourse. It's like pointing out someone's mismatched socks in a random conversation.

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A *true* prepositional verb is "up"3 points · 1 month ago

Ding Ding Ding!

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All languages must begin with an alphabet11 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

If somebody fucks up "loose" and "lose", then sure, that can be confusing and maybe should be pointed out and fixed.

Can it? Come up with a sentence where I could be genuinely confused which meaning you meant, and which I misunderstood because of it.

(That comes across as unreasonably antagonistic, which wasn't intended. I just am not sure it is actually confusing. Jarring, maybe, but I'm not sold on confusing)

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15 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

I have a friend who is learning archery as a hobby. He received a bow and some arrows for his birthday. He lost arrows when he practices at his uncle’s farm, but he’s also a dirt-poor grad student, so he can’t afford to replace them. He’s down to just one arrow, but he’s going back to the farm to practice this weekend. I think he will loose the arrow.

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All languages must begin with an alphabet7 points · 1 month ago

Not especially ambiguous with the context, but I do appreciate the effort you went to :)

I hadn't really considered loose as a verb, that does open up a lot more potential confusion-space.

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9 points · 1 month ago

It takes a lot alot of work to get close to ambiguous.

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n00b linguist, professional editor7 points · 1 month ago

I find it jarring, but I'm a prescriptivist in recovery so i find a lot of harmless things jarring. The context of the word is definitely more important than its maybe-slighty incorrect spelling.

(Speaking as someone who has to spell out "loose" and "lose" to figure out which one i need, haha)

level 4

You need some more exposure to loose your prescriptivist biases!

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has fifty words for 'casserole'5 points · 1 month ago

I find it jarring - I will always read it as the word that is spelled and have to correct once I realize it's not. But I don't think it's ever actually been confusing.

Now "read" vs "read"....

level 3

I loose so many screws.

level 4

I only have one screw lose

level 4
All languages must begin with an alphabet1 point · 1 month ago

Loosen I can get, but do you loose screws?

I guess if you take them all the way out and then set them free but at that point aren't you losing them too :)

level 5

It is clear that there is a typo or grammatical error, but the sentence is pretty much exactly halfway between two valid sentences, making it harder for the reader. Context is required in order to decide whether 'I lose so many screws' or 'I loosen so many screws' was the correct sentence.

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All languages must begin with an alphabet3 points · 1 month ago

Ah right, yeah that makes perfect sense now :)

Good example.

level 1
9 points · 1 month ago

I thought the appropriate reply to someone using "alot" was to link to this hyperboleandahalf article?

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L1 Proto-QuenyaOriginal Poster7 points · 1 month ago

Alot of times, yes. But I mean, even if they call it a coping mechanism, it's still a weak version of prescriptivism when they're trying to encourage the other spelling. On the other hand, their approach is hilarious so I'm a tiny bit conflicted.

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Is it a consonant or a phoneme?10 points · 1 month ago

Every single time I come across that bot, I downvote it and report it as spam. I think the worst part of it is "You can remember it by X", partly because that's some seriously wonky grammar/syntax coming from a prescriptivist. So grating and annoying.

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L1 Proto-QuenyaOriginal Poster33 points · 1 month ago

I can't believe the admins [a lot of things], personally.

level 3

Well it's banned from all of my tiny subreddits at the very least.

level 4

Yep, one of the reasons I really enjoy being a mod is that I can ban all the damn bots outright rather than having to report them.

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A True United States of American Patriot9 points · 1 month ago

Prescriptivism is valuable discussion, you know.

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[w]: the tongue of the body is retracted, then the body moves up8 points · 1 month ago

I don't really mind that it's possible to make sitewide bots, some are pretty useful (this one's just bad). The only other one that really gets me is the good bot bad bot one. You can ban bots all you want, you're not getting rid of those comments too.

level 1

I actually don't mind u/CommonMisspellingBot 's corrections, but I absolutely resent that it tells me to have a nice day. I'll have as bad a day as I please, thank you very much!

level 2
8 points · 1 month ago

But its mnemonics are so ridiculously useless.

level 1

I feel like the "alot" train left the station a long time ago and this bot is performing a rearguard action harassing the unwary.

If "alright" is one word, so is "alot".

level 2

I would say "another" is a closer analogy, since nothing has changed but orthography in both cases.

level 2

I'm sure there exist earlier uses, but just a precursory search in Google Books shows the use of "alot" several times in a Critical Thinking textbook from 1980. (All earlier uses I could find either referred to plots of land or were OCR errors.) That means there's an entire generation of adults for whom "alot" has always existed, which, to me, combined with the lack of confusion when it's used, means it's a legitimate word with legitimate usage.

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