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This animal is called a Vaquita, they live in the northern gulf of California, and there are only 12 of them left

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Worth noting, a significant threat to the vaquita is that it is sometimes caught as bycatch by people fishing for totoaba. The totoaba is itself a critically endangered species, but there's a black market trade that sells its swim bladders to buyers in China, where the totoaba swim bladder is considered a delicacy.

In other words, two species are on the brink of extinction, because a handful of people like to feel important, because they can drop a few hundred dollars on soup.

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750 points · 3 months ago

That's what pisses me off the most. Because of people's fucking feelings these poor little buggers are being killed.

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The dish that actually confers the most status on a person is poacher dick soup. Only the truly elite can afford poacher dick soup.

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Only the bravest poachers poach themselves.

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The most dangerous game...

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Or lack of feelings...

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The fact that we never learned to communicate with the buggers until it was too late is probably the saddest part

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290 points · 3 months ago

And this one is already extinct:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_black_rhinoceros

And they're being extinguished with our money. I know it's hard not to buy anything made in China or southeast Asia... but we could buy much less. That'd send a message.

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What isn’t a delicacy or of medicinal value to those folks?

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The panda, but that’s because it makes them billions of dollars every year

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26.2k points · 3 months ago

well put that one back, dammit.

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"This thing is highly endangered, and it cannot survive out of water, but let me get a picture real quick."

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27 points · 3 months ago

It's in a net so they either didn't care about its welfare in the first place, or hopefully, it was caught for research (to save it) and released.

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You don't research to save a species once it gets down to 12. At that point, you're looking to learn something from the extinct animal while you can.

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9.7k points · 3 months agoGilded1 · edited 3 months ago

Put that thing back where it came from, or so help me!

Edit: Obligatory thank you for the gold! I honestly didn't think anyone would really care about a Monsters Inc reference/meme but apparently it made a bunch of you happy so I'll be happy about that

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So help Me! So help Me! Goodbyyyyyye

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349 points · 3 months ago

Nice to know ya!

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Goooooooodbyyyyyee

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Deeper than the deepest Cousteau would ever go

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She's out of our hair!

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It's a work in progress. Hey we need ushers!

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131 points · 3 months ago

and cut!

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She's out of our HAAaaaAAANDS!

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Bum bum bum!

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So help me so help me! AND CUT

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"Stop clapping then ya evil bastard!"

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It belongs in a museu-

Wait

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16.3k points · 3 months ago

I think you mean 11

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Sadly, this article strongly implies that this may be the same one that passed away when captured for research.

“Never before had a vaquita porpoise been successfully captured and cared for by humans.”

Well, we succeeded with the first bit. 🙃

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1.5k points · 3 months ago

Two of my very good friends were on that mission, and they are still devastated to this day. There's no hope for this animal; they have probably all been killed by fisherman by this moment.

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2.0k points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

The animals, the world’s smallest porpoises, get tangled and drown in nets set illegally to catch another endangered species, a fish called the totoaba. The poachers’ bounty is an organ from the totoaba called the swim bladder, which is considered a delicacy and status symbol in China and can sell for up to $50,000 on the black market.

Of fucking course.

edit: ... this was meant to be posted to the parent comment. Sorry for the brusque reply to a sad comment, buddy.

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695 points · 3 months ago

Why is it always a fucking delicacy on the Chinese market

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410 points · 3 months ago(27 children)
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“you should try this, there are not so many of these left so it’s really rare.”

You know someone is inherently against everything that is great in humanity when he says those words.

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At least he shared

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12 points · 3 months ago

Sharing is caring

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I think the Chinese are making up their delicacies at this point. How the hell would a species endemic to a small section of the Americas be a historical food in China? I think Chinese mentality simply assigns a higher desirability rank to animals with smaller populations. That's why they love eating anything on the endangered list. Chinese eating habits are destroying biodiversity.

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When Russians learned that beluga sturgeon were threatened there was an immediate uptick in purchasing caviar, like the goal was to eat as much as possible before they were gone.

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Not the same. That was something that was already a delicacy that was found to be in danger after its rise to popularity.

The Chinese learn that there's some previously unknown super rare thing in the ocean and suddenly everyone's like "fuck it let's eat them lol".

Absolutely reprehensible.

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32 points · 3 months ago

So some enterprising person could invent a whole species, repurpose some leftover byproduct of existing animal slaughter into a part of that "animal," and make a fucking fortune auctioning off "parts" of it to the Chinese as an exceedingly rare delicacy?

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831 points · 3 months ago

Is a beautiful animal going instinct? I guarantee it's the fucking Chinese

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“Never before had has a vaquita porpoise been..."

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July 7 will be Save The Vaquita Day. Maybe these guys thought every other day was Kill Every Vaquita That You See Day.

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195 points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

So how did it got to this stage, did we just kept killing them until we realised that, "Hmm, today surely are there [are] less number of Vaquitas to save [hunt] " or was it by natural selection or something (?)

Edit: I don't English at night (as you can see here)

Edit2: how many females are still alive? Or will this go the same way as that last male northern white rhino

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326 points · 3 months ago

According to WWF:

Vaquita are often caught and drowned in gillnets used by illegal fishing operations in marine protected areas within Mexico's Gulf of California. The population has dropped drastically in the last few years.

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At least with only 12 left, their getting caught in gillnets is no longer an often occurrence.

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345 points · 3 months ago

It may only happen a dozen or so more times.

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162 points · 3 months ago

From Wiki:

The population decrease is largely attributed to bycatch from the illegal gillnet fishery for the totoaba, a similarly sized endemic drum that is also critically endangered.[7][11][12] The population decline has occurred despite an investment of tens of millions of dollars by the Mexican government in efforts to eliminate the bycatch.[8

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People fucking suck.

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611 points · 3 months ago

Unfortunately, the species will be extinct. No amount of human intervention will stop the falling number of these amazing creatures. There's something called a genetic bottleneck in biology. The gist of it is when the gene pool of a species becomes too small you cannot recover the species due to interbreeding.

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664 points · 3 months ago

You can recover a species from interbreeding with human intervention, and the act of interbreeding itself is not bad (see: any purebred animal/crop), it mostly exposes existing defective traits, which may be fixable with gene therapy, and while it'll never reach the same performance of a healthy genepool, it's far from deadweight.

The big problem is that it's pointless to reintroduce a species, when the reason why it went exctinct is still there

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The big problem with the vaquitas is that there is no possibility for direct human intervention as with other species such as the panda. This mainly because vaquitas don't deal really well with stress of being captured and fucking die a couple of hours after catch. They are currently using trained dolphins to lure them into secure areas and help them breed because aparently, just like the panda, they don't like to fuck a lot, so sadly there are not really a lot of other things that can be actively done to help out other than try to keep together the few that are left.

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Also, see: Alabama. please don't hate me

ROLLTIDE

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162 points · 3 months ago

As an Alabamian, I'd be pissed if I could read.

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That's kinda depressing. So even if we got all 12 together and they fucked each other's brains out there is no hope?

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137 points · 3 months ago

We may be able to replicate their DNA and make more if it makes you feel any better

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But they'd probably still only have 12 individuals' DNA to work with... so they'd still have the same genetic bottleneck and associated health problems. Right?

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*not a biologist

I've heard ancestral data is encoded in each creatures DNA. If gene processing and storage is up to the task, we might be able to archive a rough history of the Vaquitas until a later date when cloning isn't just sci fi fantasy. (I don't just mean IVF cloning because once all 12 Vaquitas are gone that becomes impossible)

I have the same hope for woolly mammoths and one Russian scientist whose name escapes me is advocating for a genetic Noah's Ark to archive the world's species before we drive them all to extinction. That way we can reintroduce them one day strategically to help the ecosystem recover

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All good, I'm not much of a sciencer 😆

The DNA bank is a great idea, agreed. They should do the Arctic seed bank thing with every (useful, no mosquitoes!) species.

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Maybe there'll be the potential to brute force those genes out in the future, who know... The again I've been awake for about 5 minutes so there's that

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😲 WAKE UP DUDE THE FUTURE OF VAQUITAS DEPENDS ON US 😲

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63 points · 3 months ago

Yeah, wtf is this lil guy doing outside the water, then?

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Evolving!!

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Congratulations! Your vaquita evolved into a dolphin!

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Came here to cry about this

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125 points · 3 months ago

OOTL?

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The pic shows it in a net on land. But it was probably just back in the water and is fine. I hope.

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404 points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

it's just a fake plastic model of one. it's fin is stiff, it's skin is perfect , water doesn't even normally bead up on fish sea mammals like that .

here's another angle

here's a real one

EDIT: well at least PBS agrees with me http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/blog/featured-creature-vaquita/ , Credit to u/TheMadTemplar for finding that source.

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here's a real one

that's even sadder

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they may just have captured it for taking selfies, and will release it eventually if they remember.

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210 points · 3 months ago
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123 points · 3 months ago

Everytime this comes up and I get angry again. Thanks for that.

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Wow, the picture is infuriating.

They're legit just passing it around as if its some kind of new toy.

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Just wait til aliens do this with us in space without oxygen and we’re all like: “We’re under attack!!” And they are all like: “Let’s hug and take selfies with this Human, we will be friends!”

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44 points · 3 months ago

If it helps subdue the rage, it was already dead. Which makes more sense, as such a shy species probably would not be just swimming in arms reach of beachgoers without a mother...

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This makes me hate humans even more

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132 points · 3 months ago

This animal was called a Vaquita, they lived in the norther gulf of California, and there were only 12 of them left in early 2018.

Unless global warming gives them a big competitive and reproductive boost (unlikely,) they're toast.

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A bottleneck of 12 individuals? Not much is gonna survive that that doesn't reproduce asexually already.

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107 points · 3 months ago

California’s sea otters trace their lineage to fifty individuals from 1938. If the remaining stock is healthy and seriously protected there’s a reasonable chance for a rebound.

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13 points · 3 months ago

How do you know OP didn't already deduct?

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No cuz there were 13 yesterday 😒😒

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55 points · 3 months ago

I just had a look, there is only 10 of them.

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This is getting out of hand. There are two of them.

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It's extinction, then.

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39 points · 3 months ago

It’s leaking

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:(

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4.0k points · 3 months ago

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned here or not, but at least on paper, the Mexican government made it a point to send the coast guard and some marines to the Baja region to monitor the area to try to protect them and bring them back. I say on paper because government can be a lot of talk and no action

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Was recently in a smaller town on the Baja. There are absolutely federal patrols both by boat and trucks that drive on the beach. Many locals that had small nets they used to help themselves get by have had them confiscated. It may not be as organized or full scale as the US government might have handled it, but they are not doing nothing, I can assure you.

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Gracias for doing something. Sounds like a significant effort.

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Sounds like a problem for the locals though

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Yeah, that part is sad to hear. I used to vacation in Baja every year in a tiny little town and the poverty among the locals across a lot of Baja is staggering. I would often see lots of shacks made from stripped car parts from all the cars that broke down on the shitty roads. And I remember one year over Christmas taking our ATV and dressing up as elves and going out handing candy to all the kids and some of those tiny little poorly made homes would have a ton of children. It’s a hard life at times and to hear them lose their fishing equipment is heartbreaking since it’s a lot more than recreational for them. However I also understand the need to preserve, it just sucks the government is the kind to take away without providing an alternative.

I haven’t been for probably 6-8 years now so things may have changed, I hope so.

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That's easily fixable though. There have been successful programs in the past that get the locals themselves to protect the endangered species. They just need to find an incentive program that rewards locals for protecting the animals instead of allowing them to die.

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49 points · 3 months ago

Sea Shepherd and the Mexican government are teaming up to save them. Sadly illegal fishers started getting guns to "defend" themselves against both groups.

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The bladders of the Totoaba are the ones worth a lot on the Chinese market. The catching of Vaquitas is just by-catch from the illegal fishing of Totoaba. The Mexican government does have police and authorities in the Gulf of California, but the number of illegal fishermen is way too high to be regulated.

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Why the bladders?

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Probably another goddamn expensive aphrodisiac.

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Isn't that insane...

"Hey remember that one time when we wiped out an entire species of beautiful animals just so that some wealthy businessmen in Beijing could brag to the other businessmen that they ate a $15,000 aphrodisiac in order to better enjoy their time in the brothel."

Fuck some people...

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I remember doing a report on these little guys back in high school (around ‘97), and at that time, there were around 250 left.

Was really hoping the numbers would go in the opposite direction.

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You didn't report hard enough >:(

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3.1k points · 3 months ago

Vaquita.. doesn’t that mean “small cow” in Spanish?

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176 points · 3 months ago

Lil Cow

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75 points · 3 months ago

Eskeeeeetit

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10 points · 3 months ago

ESKEETIIIT

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She has big udders, I call her big udders.

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They're actually called vaquitas marinas (vaquita marina for singular) in Spanish. So their name, in English, would be equivalent to "little marine cows".

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1.3k points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

I farted

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289 points · 3 months ago

Oui... doesn't that mean "Sí" in French?

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Ja

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Da

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Да.

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25 points · 3 months ago

так

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Rude

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Sand

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39 points · 3 months ago

Storm

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Vache de Merde

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Merde de Vache

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La merde qui rit

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18 points · 3 months ago

Да

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63 points · 3 months ago

Yes, but I'd prefer "little cow" to get a better sense of the tone.

For example, if you have a cow, and you call her "mi vaquita", you're calling her "my little cow", not "my small cow". But you are correct, sorry for the pedantry, just wanted to inform a bit more.

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Mu

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Dame tu kosita

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This guy chingas

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Here's some more info:

Vaquita, the world’s most rare marine mammal, is on the edge of extinction. This little porpoise wasn't discovered until 1958 and a little over half a century later, we are on the brink of losing them forever. Vaquita are often caught and drowned in gillnets used by illegal fishing operations in marine protected areas within Mexico's Gulf of California. The population has dropped drastically in the last few years.

According to World Wildlife Fund there's actually 30 of them left, so... yay?

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30 is an old number. March 2018 report has the number down to 12. https://news.mongabay.com/2018/03/only-12-vaquita-porpoises-remain-watchdog-groups-report/

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This should say 12 KNOWN. Hopefully there are some we haven't found that are smart enough to stay away from us.

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Maybe 11 by now

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Hey there! My lab at Rockefeller University is sequencing the genomes of the last remaining Vaquita, and current estimates suggest 25 individuals remain. Sad news, but we’re working to help conserve these cute guys!

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will you be taking ova/sperm from specimens for cloning?

is that an option at all? because i don't see these 30/25/12 guys surviving as long as people use nets in the region.

Accidental drowning in gillnets set by fishermen meant for catching totoaba is the primary cause of anthropogenic, incidental mortality for the vaquita.

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No yay.

A population that size will be highly subject to inbreeding and genetic problems. This is almost certainly not "if" they go extinct, but "when".

Very small chance of the species surviving, at 12 or 30 individuals

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They are the McPoyles of marine mammals.

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413 points · 3 months ago

THE MCPOYLES WILL RULE THE SEAS!

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The McPoyle bloodline is pure as the crashing surf!

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84 points · 3 months ago

Someone get them some milk!

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50 points · 3 months ago

With a lot of work they can be saved. The California Condor went from a a couple of dozen to a few hundred.

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49 points · 3 months ago

Also the Black Robin, which manage to come back from one female and a few males (now they have a population of ~250 and growing).

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10 points · 3 months ago

Are side effects from inbreeding different among birds? I know it's bad among mammals and leads to all sorts of health issues.

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25 points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

Not sure about this bird specifically, but different animals have different tolerances for inbreeding. Even among mammals. Apparently rabbits are notoriously resistant to negative inbreeding effects.

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I've read somewhere that 40 individuals is the minimum needed to have adequate genetic diversity to survive long term. So, if the count is off by a bit, there may be hope.

Sad to just learn about this animal and then realize they're on the verge :(

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164 points · 3 months ago

I've read realistically you need a few hundred, because with the minimum 40 a random defect or disease will probably wipe out the future populations.

Hopefully 30 is good enough for these guys, though.

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You also need to selective breed with purpose with that small of a population and animals in the wild aren't known for their ability to select the right breeding partner to create the most genetically diverse offspring.

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We must create the Vaquitsatz Haderach

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With porpoise.

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127 points · 3 months ago

The Toba Genetic Bottleneck nearly did for us humans ~75k years ago and that had a comparatively generous lower limit of about 3000 individuals.

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It depends on the species, though. Some have more copies of functional genes than others, and some are more susceptible to cancers and/or genetic defects.

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Yeah, like rabbits are super resistant to negative mutations, so they can get by just fine with inbreeding to reproduce. This is part of why introducing them to new ecosystems can be so devastating; you don’t need that many rabbits for them to eventually turn into an infestation.

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Case in point: Australia.
24 rabbits were introduced in Victoria in 1859 by a farmer wishing to hunt them for sport. By the 1920's there were 10 Billion rabbits across Australia.
Today, thanks to pest-control efforts that number has fallen to just 200 million.

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And they say everything in Australia is designed to kill you.

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24 points · 3 months ago

They didn't state what breed of rabbits, what if it was from this lineage?

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Yep. Okunoshima is covered in bunnies now because of this and not having predators.

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Same thing happened with cheetahs. That’s why they’re so fucked up now.

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I remember reading about this years ago and finding it fascinating. I just read the article you linked, and the related article on population bottlenecks, and it seems that recent research doesn't support this theory. It's cool how they can use genetic data for this stuff.

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Then how do we have southern white rhinos, and cheetas, and cahows...

These are serious questions with a mocking tone

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Or they could end up like cheetahs which have almost no genetic variance from one to another

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Very small chance of the species surviving, at 12 or 30 individuals

But it has happened. Check the West Virginia Northern Flying Squirrel, their populations dropped as low as ~10 and now they have been delisted with over 1000 animals across over 100 different sites.

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Thats why I said small chance. It is not impossible, but it is unlikely, even with conservation efforts. Also, you're talking different reproductive habits between the species, with Vaquitas taking 3 to 5 years to reach maturity, an 11 month gestation, and only 1 young produced at a time.

Also, only 10 squirrels were captured at the lowest point. Population was likely higher.

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So if they went all of existence without being discovered until 1958, how do the know they have an accurate count?

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I can't believe it took this long for me to find this question. I'm interested to see what the answer is. How in Heaven's name can we say there's only 12 left?

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They are endemic to this one collection of tiny lagoons. They can't survive outside of them, and live in groups, so after researchers did a heavy sweep of the area it's fairly easy to tell.

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778 points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

"....high demand from China for [totoaba's] swim bladder has led to a corresponding boom in illegal totoaba fishing in the past few years. Thousands of swim bladders are dried and smuggled out of Mexico, often through the United States. Fishermen receive around $4,000 for each pound of totoaba swim bladder, equivalent to half a year’s income from legal fishing activities. It is this illegal trade that is currently driving the precipitous decline in vaquita numbers."

So the reason these animals are being driven to extinction is from illegal fishing activities for an unrelated animal in an effort to sell dehydrated swim bladders to China. Not much different than the reason many other endangered species are poached: always has to be for something illegal.

Sad.

Edit Found some more information. Sadly, it IS for "medicinal properties" including the infamous "thought to increase fertility".

"People in Asian cultures use the swim bladder in a soup called fish maw," explains Erin Dean at the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service. It's also reputed to have some medicinal value — it's thought to boost fertility.

Dean says no one knows why the demand for it has skyrocketed recently. It could be that when a Chinese fish called a yellow croaker, which once supplied bladders, started dying out, people started turning to the Mexican totoaba to meet the demand for bladders.

A scientist for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service shows a dried totoaba bladder at a news conference in 2013. Elliot Spagat/AP And the totoaba has one big bladder, which it inflates and deflates to control its flotation. When dried, it's about the size of a laptop computer — and it sells for big bucks.

"When one totoaba fish bladder goes for $10,000 in the Chinese market," says Dean, "law enforcement agencies kind of raise up their eyebrows and take note of this trade going on."

What investigators found is that Mexican fishermen are using huge nets, called gill nets, to catch totoaba. And those nets also accidentally snare and kill the vaquita porpoises. Their corpses get thrown away, while the totoaba bladders go to China. The whole business is a violation of both Mexican and international law, since the totoaba and the vaquita are listed by international treaty as endangered, so they're legally protected.

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755 points · 3 months ago

Like Bobby Lee said “Chinese people please quit eating everything!”

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159 points · 3 months ago

So what disease does a swim bladder not cure? I swear the stuff people will grind up as "medicine" is absurd

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155 points · 3 months ago

What I don't understand, is a nation nautorious for producing fake products for a profit, why don't they just grind up anything and sell it as X very rare animal and make way more money?

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Because its more profitable to grind up things like dinosaur bones and sell it as ancient viagr, than as a fossil over there. Same with tiger parts rhino horns etc.

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90 points · 3 months ago

Yes but how bout this,

step 1 acquire cow bones step 2 grind up cow bones step 3 ??? step 4 profit

Ground up Dino bones vs. ground up cow bones probably aren't too far off, and I'm sure you can see how profit margins are more favorable using a fake product

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Step 3 tell Chinese men it will make them last longer in bed. Step 4 profit.

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Why can't they just buy a fast car to compensate like the rest of us?

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He means why not lie. Grind up anything and sell it as the rare thing

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You completely missed his point. Why even go out in search of rare Dino bones when you can grind up readily available stuff like cow bones mixed with rock and pass it off as the same stuff. People already do it with drugs, and the difference in how high you get from powdered milk vs cocaine is huge while the difference between how hard you get from powdered cow bladder vs powdered porpoise swim bladder is probably non-existent.

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Seriously China. Just eat readily available animals like the rest of us.

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Gotta love Bobby Lee

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127 points · 3 months ago

I'm Chinese and I absolutely hate the fish maw (swim bladder) industry. The older generation does not give a fuck about the environmental consequences. Price hikes from export/catch restrictions make them think this is rare shit elixir that gives them superpowers.

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can't wait for older generations to go extinct

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It’s like the older generations are in their own bubbles or something. They will bend reality to fit with their view. My father got all excited when he read some bullshit blog article about a type flower that only grows in Iran or some shit, complete will unimaginable health benefits. He said he will send people over there to harvest it and he will bring it to America for me.

Watching his eyes lightened up when he talk about it 😞

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320 points · 3 months ago

I feel like most endangered species are an aphrodisiac in China

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I guess they just get off on killing species.

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Fuck those people honestly. Where the fuck did the idea of eating fish bladder to increase fertility came from? Like one person decided to try some then he suddenly got a boner? Also, who the fuck believes in those bullshit stuff and encourages hunters to catch more?

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If there's only 12 of them left, they're basically extinct.

I have to wonder what it must feel like to be a sentient species and realize that you're literally alone in the world except for a handful of family and friends.

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This is the premise of many horror movies. Some other creature has taken over the planet and is killing all of your species.

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22 points · 3 months ago

Sounds like a good movie to see. Would love the plot twist that we are the actual killers to not come up till way later in the movie

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Well if it makes you feel better they might have fish friends.

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545 points · 3 months ago

Please save them please

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Ok.

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Thank you

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195 points · 3 months ago

Ok reddit we are done here. Good job

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The ole thoughts and prayers-aroo

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We did it, Reddit!

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235 points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

Credit to the photographer, Paul Hilton (aka paulhiltonphoto on Instagram). Per the instagram source:

Exciting news out of South Africa via @nrdc_org! Today, the world committed to help save the #vaquita at the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES). Parties agreed to crack down on trafficking in a fish species, the #totoaba, which is wiping out the vaquita. The vaquita get caught and drown in gillnets used to catch totoaba.

It is a sad reality that the illegal trade in one #CITES protected species, the totoaba, will cause the extinction of another CITES protected species, the vaquita, within 5 years if current trends continue. Now, with fewer than 60 vaquita remaining, there is simply no margin for error.

As I write this, governments from around the world are discussing the fate of many species at the 17th meeting of the CITES Conference of the Parties in Johannesburg, South Africa. In most instances, the Parties are finding comfort in knowing that, if proper steps are taken, we have time to reverse destructive trends. But for the vaquita, time is no longer a resource. While well intentioned, prior efforts were too timid, allowed to lapse, and in some cases undermined by unscrupulous stakeholders.

In recent years, Mexico has taken important steps, including increased enforcement to combat totoaba trade. And earlier this year the United States and China committed to combat the trade at the U.S. and China strategic and economic dialogue. But more must be done.

Thus, it is critical that we take all steps necessary to combat illegal trade in totoaba. If the vaquita is going to survive beyond the next CITES Conference of the Parties in 2019, Mexico, the United States, and China must work together to completely wipe out the totoaba trade. The actions adopted by governments at CITES support that effort and now Mexico, the U.S., and China must vigorously implement them.

October 2, 2016

Estimates in 1997 placed the population at 567.

Estimates in 2000s ranged between 150 to 300

Estimates in 2014 were below 100

Estimates in 2015 were 60

Estimates by nobember 2016 were 30

In March 2018 estimates were at a dozen.

Accidental drowning in gillnets is the primary way humans are killing them.

More info.

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What pisses me off most about this is that the local government hasn't stepped in and provided solutions, only imposed restrictions. As a teacher of grade seven students, when you make a rule but don't create a way of doing something other than what is forbidden, people will continue breaking the rule because it's the only thing they can do.

It's too late. The most adorable mammal in the ocean is, by all practical terms, extinct. We need to change our mentality surrounding conservation from regulation- to solution-based remedies. A lot of the Vancouver Aquarium's work is like this. They focus on providing ways for people to do right instead of simply punishing people when they do wrong.

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If all the beasts are gone, man would die of a loneliness of spirit, for whatever happens to the beasts, will eventually happen to man. -Chief Dan George

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111 points · 3 months ago

Some people might hear "northern Gulf of California" and assume this species resides in American waters, this is not correct. The entirety of the gulf of California, also known as the sea of cortez, lies in entirely within Mexican territorial waters, it is also spans a massive area of 62,000 square miles.

It's massive, and the Mexican navy has significantly less resources than the US does, and illegal fishing is harder to stop.

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Unfortunately I've been following this for years. We went from like 40 two years ago to 12 today. They are going to be extinct shortly. What a tragedy

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How did we let an animal this cute go extinct, did the polar bears buy all the add space? This shit makes no sense, I’m 29 first time I’ve heard or seen one of these little dudes....🤬

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No, until more recently, polar bears lived in an area of zero economic importance. Immoral economic entities weren't driven to invade the arctic and pillage its resources. Expect that to change with the melting ice.

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43 points · 3 months ago

No doubt below the minimum viable population, so effectively extinct.

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Another reason, less often cited, is that vaquitas need the freshwater input from the Colorado river. As I'm sure you all know there's a huge dam on that river which means that practically no freshwater arrives to the gulf of California, making this whole species unviable under the current saline levels.

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7 ways you can help (via: Viva Vaquita)

  1. A tax deductable donation to the Vaquita Recovery Fund

  2. Sign the petition to the President of Mexico and others in the Mexican government, urging immediate action in removing all gillnet fishing in vaquita's range.

  3. Write Mexican officials: President of Mexico, Ministry of Natural Resources, Commission of Natural Protected Areas. Here are sample letters in and Español.

  4. Boycott Mexican shrimp, and don't buy fish caught with gillnets (find out more here.)

  5. Support NGOs Helping Vaquitas

  6. Write your elected officials: Due to the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), vaquita is an endangered species in Mexico, the United States, and Canada.

  7. Volunteer: ¡VIVA Vaquita! has several projects and can sometimes use the help of additional people and their talents. Contact them today to offer your time and skills.

Not affiliated with ¡VIVA Vaquita!, just wanted to share the message.

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If you'd like to help, donate to Sea Shepherd. They have 3 ships in the Sea of Cortez working with the Mexican coast guard to remove illegal gill nets and save wildlife caught in them. Illegal gill nets are the main cause of death of the Vaquita.

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