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Man films dramatic moment flash flood hits his Montecito home

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306 points · 6 months ago

Holy crap. Imagine being that guy in the van when he finally saw that wall of water and debris coming for him. REVERSE REVERSE REVERSE.

Hopefully, he escaped safely.

Holy fuck.

Man I remember seeing this a few hours after it happened, was insane.

I stayed up watching it happen. They showed aerial footage of a guy driving his little white van off road straight across farm lands to try and out run the Tsunami but it couldn't make it up this decent sized embankment so he got out and ran up and it swept away his van. He was fine up there.

I’m gonna need to see this if anyone has a source

22 points · 6 months ago

That last guy REALLY needed to just jump the curb there and risk the damage to the suspension.

That last guy really needed to be looking further up the road than his nose while driving.

To be fair I imagine it was incredibly dark outside.

What?

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-6 points · 6 months ago(1 child)

Booooo

25 points · 6 months ago

I was in Yokohama for this, watching the news live. These videos fuck with me pretty hard... and I wasn't even in any danger at the time. After all of that, the Navy had so many people trying to volunteer we had to be told to stop volunteering.

Put it in reverse Terry!

back up Ter!

OH LAWDD

That man is my uncle! He is safe, drove backwards down the whole road till he was safe. Even though his house was damaged in the mudslide, he spent the whole day saving people.

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3 points · 6 months ago

Yay! A relief to find out he's safe. Good on him for helping others.

Original Poster9 points · 6 months ago

I hope they made it.

Whatever
164 points · 6 months ago

I live in the Montecito area. 18 people are dead (so far). This is only 2-3 weeks after many of these people had returned home after mandatory evacuations due to the Thomas Fire. It's tragic that just as people were starting to get settled after being gone for many days due to the biggest fire California has seen, that this happens. There were evacuation warnings for flooding, but I don't think anyone expected this.

Original Poster40 points · 6 months ago

Yeah I live in SB County. This sucks. So devastating. The death count is most likely going to rise as there are still a few people missing.

20 now. I think there’s four people left on the missing list.

20 points · 6 months ago

Make that 19. They found a 25 year old woman

14 points · 6 months ago

I read that the fires caused the flooding because after fires water doesn’t absorb into the land. I’m sad for you guys, I hope things improve.

https://www.ready.gov/sites/default/files/Flood_After_Fire_Fact_Sheet.pdf

I feel for you- its so hard. I remember the laguna beach fires in october 93, and then all of the people who died 3 months later in the mud slides. They always come after the big fires. Its like you can't get a break.

It’s almost like all those trees were keeping the ground in place or something

Also live in Montecito. Right across from the Montecito Inn. Got evacuated.

Death toll at 20 this morning according to KSBY.

Suddenly I don’t feel so lame for living in Ohio...

How do you even begin to repair damages to a home after something like this?

112 points · 6 months ago

You usually cut out the bottom 4-6 feet of drywall all around the house and remove whatever facade might be on the outside (super important you do this right away and try not to get insulation all over you). Basically you have just frame from the ground up for a few feet, like you see right through the whole house.

Then you move everything out that got wet and mop everything and run a bunch of industrial dehumidifiers (like the kind you need to hook up to the drain). Then you gotta repair and replace everything.

If you have an actual brick house idk what you would do. Probably mostly the same except removing the bricks.

(like this sometimes)

51 points · 6 months ago

Brick houses would require changing the insulation and repainting, but the bricks themselfes are not affected by water. Dehumification is required to prevent mold issues, but brick houses are very resistant to flood damages.

Also would have likely had much less internal damage cos waterproofing would be a bit better.

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To prevent the after soaking into the bricks.

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The bricks and mortar won’t Absorb the water when water proofed.

Just make sure you never remove all sheeting from the bottom level, always leave at minimum two feet of sheeting to provide the bracing needing to keep your house standing. If you need to remove it all, you need to add cross-bracing as you go to keep the structure sound.

Wait, what? I have a hard time believing drywall is acting as a cross brace on the first floor, much less two feet of it.

21 points · 6 months ago

External sheathing, it is not drywall but either plywood or particle board. Drywall inside, plywood outside, studs and insulation sandwiched in between.

The plywood/particle board acts as cross bracing between the studs to resist lateral loads like wind etc

Sheeting, the plywood that goes on the outside.

This happened to a friend of mine a few years ago in Pensacola. There was was a storm that dumped a ton of rain and the water retention ponds at the paper mill burst flooding his entire neighborhood with 3 feet of wastewater.

From the pics I saw they had to completely gut out everything down to the wood, and rebuild from the frame up because of mold and whatever byproducts were in the water.

No one died, fortunately, but no one there had any flood insurance because they weren't in a flood zone, which I imagine is the case for the people in California.

4 points · 6 months ago

Just curious do you know if the insurance covered it? I mean your not required to have it for a non flood zone. Pretty fucked if insurance companies didn't help out some to those poor people.

It didn't. The entire neighborhood filed a suit against the paper mill, and supposedly there might be a settlement. The folks in Cali can't sue the rain though...they are probably fucked if they don't have good enough credit to borrow more for repairs.

That's what my friend ended up doing, and most of his neighbors as well. The subdivision they lived in was only a few years old, and most of the people who lived there had their house built for them and a lot of time left on the mortgage. My friend was looking at trying to sell a lot with a house frame in a neighborhood that just got washed out by essentially a hazardous chemical spill in an area that it could happen again, or just rebuilding.

3 points · 6 months ago

Unreal, that sucks so bad. Yeah I never thought about a suit against the company responsible for the spill.

It's about the only thing you could do in that situation, and even then it takes years to see any resolution.

They don’t.

5 points · 6 months ago

Even though it might look absolutely trashed/totaled, if the house hasn't moved from the foundation at all it can actually be fixed up fairly easily(albeit lots of hard physical work and its going to take time).

The first thing to do is to get someone out to check the stability of the house i/e make sure it's still safe to occupy and hasn't shifted from the foundation or had any physical damage(besides water).

The next thing to do is to remove all the debris, mud, dirt, and broken stuff from the house.

After that you'll need to deal with cabinets, drawers, large items(stove, refrigerator, washer, dryer etc... a lot of these can actually be saved if you really want to save them), and get them out of the way while checking to see if you can reuse any of them(wooden things aren't worth saving due to moisture absorption).

Once everything is off of the wall and out of the way you'll need to start to remove the flooring, subfloor, and also the walls(4-6 feet is normal but it depends on how high up the moisture went as well as if it's worth cutting or just installing all new drywall). This gives you a greater ability to see potential damages but also allows you to clean up even more as the water/mud would have seeped into everything, as well as dry everything off as efficiently as possible. It also lets you get your electrical wiring, central air/heat ducting, gas lines, and water lines checked for any damage to make sure they are still fully usable. You'll want to apply anti-mold onto anything(the house framing) that was exposed to the water since it will just continue to grow even after you reinstall the floors/walls.

After that it's just installing new drywall, floors, etc... to replace everything that had to be removed and than repainting. When it's all finished you won't even be able to tell it was ever damaged in a flood.

"I've been looking for the perfect time to run some more cat6."

5 points · 6 months ago

Well yeah, because you've replaced everything but the studs.

Yeah, that seems "fairly easy"...

demolition

Money

Id start by getting rid of the mud

You move

Lots of towels.

Almost certainly saved the life of the van driver.

Hopefully. Looks like he would have to outrun the flood going downhill in reverse.

Sounds like an exaggeration.

13 points · 6 months ago

holy crap! this is like a nightmare I had a few years ago

29 points · 6 months ago

WOW, blows my mind. I heard on Howard Stern that this was because the fires burned away all the brush and trees etc... thats why it happened.

Original Poster17 points · 6 months ago

Yeah there was nothing for the soil to hold on to.

And fire scorches the earth so water just runs right off

Insane. One minute the inside of his house is dry and by the next time you get a clear look at it it's completely drowned in mud.

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70 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

There is a cut in the video.

No way!!

Way.

Are we talking about the part at near 1:10 when the video got very bouncy? I was thinking that was the exact moment the slide hit, and he may have bounced the camera enough to create a cut-like effect, or he may have just shut the camera off for a second. Or are you looking elsewhere in the time line?

A strong door would have given a pretty good ROI

No, not at all. Either way it's going to let some in and you're going to have to pay your insurance deductible.

Actually floods aren't covered most of the time and when they are it is usually only foundation damage

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12 points · 6 months ago

what is actually covered, as someone who has paid insurance their whole life without using it, I sometimes wonder what I'm even paying for. (never used it)

I have medical, life and car insurance.

Like aren't all insurance companies business trying to make profit, it just feels like if I do get in an accident they won't cover shit.

They were talking about this on NPR with a survivor.

Most of them did not have flood insurance because the area is not known to flood often. There were areas where 17 foot boulders came down. Was pretty harrowing as the interviewee described her neighbor asking her to help find her husband, as they knew each other well. They found him dead, but she described him as being at peace.

Areas around the wildfires are now getting their insurance dropped, some with 35+ years of paying insurance, because of the high probability of future fire damage.

Most of them did not have flood insurance because the area is not known to flood often.

I wonder how true this is/whether they could take this approach:

"Arnie Abramson, partner and executive general adjuster at The Greenspan Co./Adjusters International, an insurance adjusting and consulting firm in California, says that if a mudslide or mudflow occurs because trees and plants were damaged in an earlier fire, for instance, and your area never has experienced flooding or mud problems, your home insurance claim probably will be covered as a fire loss. "You would have to prove to your home insurance company that if the fire never happened, the flood or mud event would never have happened," he says." - Source

Pay attention to the coverages afforded to you on your policies. Read them carefully.

Insurance is broken out into types of claims. For example, car insurance to cover damage to others is required by law, but if you only get that, you're on your own to replace your own car if you cause an accident. In order for the insurance to replace your car, you would need to get collision coverage, but that wouldn't protect you if your car was stolen (that would be under comprehensive). For housing, flooding is a type of claim that is broken out into it's own policy, but you would be out of luck from damage from earthquakes, which is it's separate coverage. For more, car, housing.

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1 point · 6 months ago

yea but essentially what it means is we all pay a little to help those who got unlucky and also to turn a profit to the guys running the business

3 points · 6 months ago

yea but essentially what it means is we all pay a little to help those who got unlucky and also to turn a massive profit to the guys running the business

Just thought I’d add that in there.

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-4 points · 6 months ago

don't use motorcycles please, the risk of an accident being deadly and or leaving you mutilated is so high. My dad who is a doctor has countless stories of motorcyclists being mutilated and injured, just either take public transport or cars.

What’s the point of living if I can’t have fun?

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-1 points · 6 months ago

You can have fun doing other things, it's like hey I'm going to die one day better eat all these 10 cakes in front of me. Or hey yolo, I'll drink alcohol every day.

The problem is all of those things without moderation will let you living a miserable life. You won't get sick in one day, but you'll live a lot of years in misery.

Just like driving a motorcycle, the likelihood of an accident is much higher and any minor crash can leave you crippled for life. It's not worth it.

3 points · 6 months ago

You aren't quite living up to your username

For you. It’s not worth it for you.

That's why they call it a flash flood.

Water is scary, and most people don't realize how dangerous it is, even if it looks calm.

Don't install those stupid child plastic door knob thingies!

First off THEY DON'T WORK. Friggin kids get around every last child safe thing ever made.

Second, it's a fire hazard! Groping around in the smoke and flame and you put your hand on the door knob, first you panic and can't get the stupid thing to work, or worse it melts into a hot goo of napalm and sticks to your hand.

Eh, I dunno man. It works pretty well for my kids. When they eventually figure out how to open them, you just remove them.

Easier to home alone the door knob...

Eh, whatever works. I hate child proofing. Some swear by it but for me? I'm not going to inconvenience myself for rote everyday activities for my lovable twerps. They just eat the stupid plug things. Darwin I always say!

California can't get a break

Good thing for all that muddy water... nobody will know you shit your pants.

Hope everyone is okay?

7 points · 6 months ago

19 (and counting) have died. More injured. Lots of homes destroyed. It's not good. :(

Wow. This is devistating and so interesting. This guy handled this like a champ.

Did anyone else see the old black lady's face flash in the window!? Around the 1:12 mark...

It scared the shit outta me, but I saw it.

if you pause @ 1:13 you can see his face. pretty freaky.

It looks like an old black lady though wtf!?

Probably his mom, the one he was telling to wake dad up.

Serious question: Assuming someone is purchasing a home in an area that has risk of this happening, is there an insurance policy that would cover the damage from this kind of flooding? What all can be covered? And when this does happen, is the home a "total" loss or is cleanup/restoration possible on just insurance + deductible?

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Confirmed.

Source: homeowner in Montecito.

Do you know if that policy through FEMA truly is comprehensive?

That is terrifying. The van throwing it into reverse and then the shot of that wall of mud and water was like something out of a movie. What an awful thing.

Yeah, it's pretty amazing how much it's like "The Blob".

Damn nature, you scary.

We were hit by the same mudslides farther down towards the ocean. I took a video but there’s no light other than the moon and all you can hear is a massive roar and the snapping of trees and flashing of power lines going down.

Most terrifying thing I’ve ever heard or seen.

Just...wow. Good luck with that.

Hey team, why don't we make adobe or cobb houses, they're flood proof, aren't they?

It only gets worse from here on. Though, I don't think you can blame anyone but ourselves.

Man that's horrible.

And these things are going to continue to happen with greater frequency unless something is done about man made climate change, including not electing politicians that don't believe in it (most of the GOP).

Original Poster0 points · 6 months ago

Yes I completely agree.

At least it's not on fire anymore...

That looked like "grey water"...

Ever notice how dad is always asleep in these kind of videos?

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1 point · 6 months ago

That's melted water from climate change

-6 points · 6 months ago(9 children)

We don't want you!

See, this is why.

What paradise do you come from with no sexual assault (WTF was even your point with this?) or natural disasters?

The beach is pretty great tho. And we have tacos. Oh and culture.

But it's a give and take.

I'll give you the tacos, but culture? Sure?

A culture of materialism and consumption.

Where do you think the clothes you see in department stores are designed? Where do you think the music that plays on the radio is recorded? Where do you think the movies and television shows you watch on TV are produced?

The coastal cities are the source for popular culture. Popular culture is definitely not all good but it's still the predominant culture, arguable most predominant in the world and informs all of our lives whether we want it to or not.

Hahahahahahahah. You think you taught people something. Oh internet.

Edit: It's comments like this that make the people insufferable. I feel more sorry for the normies that have to live with you.

Ok, keep laughing and typing away on a platform invented in Medford, Massachusetts, and headquartered in SF.

That house was a mess already!

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I used to live in tornado country. I'll take earthquakes, fires, and mudslides.

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-10 points · 6 months ago(1 child)

People died bro... not a good time for jokes

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WHY ARE WE YELLING?!

-25 points · 6 months ago(2 children)
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Those satellite images just prove their point. Yeah, its not a flood plain, but its on a steep soft ridge, perfect for mudslides. Everywhere humans go has some sort of risk, so I don’t really agree with the premise that its your fault you got hit with a disaster. But sometimes expansion and scenery overshadow the risks.

-17 points · 6 months ago(0 children)
-8 points · 6 months ago(0 children)
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Yeah well he did a good job at looking after his family, so he's a stand up guy in my books

-88 points · 6 months ago(0 children)

I'm sure the most important thing on that dude's mind while his house was being flooded was making sure you would approve of his recording skills.

Your whole comment history is toxic. You're TOXIC sort your shit out

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