I'd rather be American than Republican.
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Oh good. More polarization. I mean you're not wrong, it just sucks what this country is becoming
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I'd buy that shirt.... I'm independent and have some right wing views (mostly gun laws and military) but the republican party is a disgrace to the flag
I'm a staunch liberal but I have some right wing views (mostly gun laws and military)
I work with a bunch of Hollywood liberals and just the other day we were all talking about conceal carry and shooting guns and not one person was against that.
I hope that this is at least close to a consensus view. I'm very liberal, with the exception of gun laws. It'd make me very happy if the Democrats stopped pushing for gun restrictions so hard, and my instinct is they'd win a lot of voters much easier if they were to do so.
It'd make me happy if we actually looked at the intent of the 2nd Amendment -- gun ownership is not meant for personal defense/hobby, the amendment's intent is to be able to call up a milita force. I feel the 2nd Amendment's actual purpose is lost on most everyone who wants it to be what they want it to be.
The thing is that there is a clause explaining why they included it, and then there is a clause giving us a right. The right is "the right to bear arms shall not be infringed."
I understand that it can be argued, and I think some of them are good arguments. But at the end of the day, "the right to bear arms shall not be infringed."
The actual amendment has it front and center, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State..." In fact, it was originally written without the comma.
Yes, I mentioned that.
The thing is that there is a clause explaining why they included it, and then there is a clause giving us a right.
Apparently, there is a comma distinction between what was written, and what was signed. It is somewhat important, but even without the comma, there is a right, and an explanation for that right. It's odd that no other amendment has an explanation. It's very peculiar.
Importantly, though, no part of the second amendment says that the right to bear arms is limited to militias, nor does it even imply that in any convincing way. Further, even if you are willing to accept that, it causes other issues, since several states have outlawed militias. I'm unwilling to accept that a constitutional right can be granted only to members of a certain group, while states are permitted to make such a group illegal. Does not play well in my mind with "shall not be infringed."
It'd make me very happy if the Democrats stopped pushing for gun restrictions so hard
That's the problem with a two party system. No room for subtlety. If one party id "for" something, the other party must be "against" it. Sure, there might be some things that both parties are for, or against, but any sort of middle ground is untenable.
It'd make me very happy if the Democrats stopped abortions, rights for minorities, unions, etc, etc, etc so hard, and my instinct is they'd win a lot of voters much easier if they were to do so.
I think there's a lot of people who support all of those things, but also want to defend the right to bear arms in self-defense.
We call these people "single-issue voters," and, in most cases, stupid.
This is the single single-issue where I can see their point. I don't necessarily agree with them, but I can at least see their point.
Pro gun =|= right wing. One of my favorite gun related quotes is from Marx.
I hear you. I hate using a blanket term of Republican because there are still plenty of honest, sensible people in that party. Maybe just replace Republican with MAGAt or something.
I understand what you're saying, but I think those honest, sensible people can't be that sensible if they're still willing to hitch themselves to what the party has become. It's one thing to fight for what they believe the party should be, but they refuse to fight with their vote because even they are stuck in the mindset that anything is better than a Democrat. That doesn't seem very sensible to me, and not only that, it makes it that much easier for crazies in the Republican Party to destroy the country.
Republican leadership is allowing Trump to continue to exist. Sensible Republicans may exist, but they're not in charge. Other than that it's a no-true-Scotsman argument.
And they haven't been in charge for a long time. None of this began with Trump. The top Republican leadership hasn't really been any good since at least before Newt Gingrich was speaker, and most of the last decent members of Congress were primaried by the Tea Party clowns in 2010. State level & governors have generally followed suit with the national party policy line, see also: the refusal of the Medicaid expansion, fucking over their own low income people for political points against Obama.
That's true of the entire political system if you think about it.
I mean in a country of that size it ended up as a choice between Clinton and wankblaster. That is utterly ridiculous. Whoever won, the earth would have lost. It's a failed system that has a death toll that makes the holocaust look like a minor incident.
But you absolutely need both left and right wing views to be represented. Simply because that's how society and reality is.
The problem is that everyone feels it's about these things, when it's mainly a huge go-fund-me campaign open to foreign investors.
Money first, humanity second is the mindset that needs to change. But, good luck making people think humanity is important when you have 3-4 generations brainwashed with cult-like flag worship.
Hillary would have fucked russia, russia primary component to Trumps win. Hmmmm
I dunno why americans still think they represent democracy at this point.
The system is a massive joke, but people have been cloth worshipping for so long, they can't realise it and actually change anything.
I use "redcaps", personally.
Me too. The people in my life make it necessary to distinguish between the Republican cultists and those that only indirectly helped him win by voting Johnson. The former are Redcaps, the latter are a smattering of Republicans and Libertarians who still need to wake the fuck up and help us beat these lunatics... But I digress.
there are still plenty of honest, sensible people in that party.
Wasn't necessarily talking about those in government. I'd consider my parents to be in that category though. At least my dad voted for Clinton and both are very anti-Trump at this point. Whether they will actually vote Democrats in midterms or not is yet to be seen...
I really don't mean to be unkind, but if your own parents still call themselves republican after everything the GOP has done or tried to do to this country, then they are not honest/sensible people. I am not talking about Trump. I am talking about those enabling him. I am talking abut the party who endorsed child predator roy moore, tried to strip away the affordable care act (oh i am sure they'd replace it later), impose tax cuts for the very wealthy while increasing taxes on the middle class. The spineless fucks in congress who have completely ignored their constitutional duty to act as a check on the executive.
Want to call yourself a republican? Then you get to own all of this. It doesn't matter if you're a politician. Wrong is wrong.
I call them treasonists. Isolates the republicans who carry the sensible beliefs of the party while directly attacking the russians.
I haven't met one sensible republican in my 60+ years of life.
In the past, I agreed with you.
But now, Trump is the de facto head of the Republican Party. The other leadership is supporting him, not denouncing him. And a significant portion of the base supports him as well.
Even if you argue that this isn't what republicans are, at the core, there is no doubting that this is what republicans are willing to embrace.
I'd probably get that shirt, and I'm Canadian XD
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Guns aren't just a right wing thing though. When you concede that it is you let them beat you with it.
I didn't say it was only right wing but it is an important issue for right wing politicians . Where as the majority of the lefts politicians are against it. They didn't beat anyone with anything, I'm an independent. I don't understand the point you're trying to make
Right now it appears pretty clear that those who vote republican have no interest in being American
That is the ugliest shirt I've ever seen.
I made this design last night based on your post.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G9T294B/
Weak. Try harder.
Is Diarra the name of your daughter, because that's not how you spell 'diarrhea' Komrade.
"Excess fiber can cause constipation or diarrhea"
What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this sub is now dumber for having read it. I award you no upvotes, and may God have mercy on your soul.
You go out there and you FIND THAT FUCKIN DOG!
I feel like this should be satire but given the way most pro-trump people express themselves I'm just not convinced it is.
Oddly enough, you do have a valid point about the entire election being a shitshow even if most of the people here probably disagree with you about which was the better turd.
WhY aReN'T yOu lAuGhInG, cuCK!?
Renouncing your citizenship to own the libs
There should be some Cyrillic in there.
I dont know which is scarier. The fact that people are wearing that shirt and being serious about it or the fact that random people across america defended it by saying people wore it as a joke. The amount of delusion that takes is terrifying.
"A joke? Hmm... is this why there aren't many conservative stand up comedians?"
probably same people that would think colbert was a serious conservative and not... a total mockery of them
I was so happy when they invited him to the Press Dinner, to give that speech.
Buuuut the leftists can't meme!
Waiting for "I'd rather be a Nazi, than a Democrat" shirt
"Rather be a KKK member than a Democrat"
"Rather destroy my country than be a Democrat""Rather anything, but be a Democrat"
Amazing how powerful that word is. You'd just so assume it was equivalent to the end of all the universe.
“Rather destroy my country than be a Democrat.”
They have said that on multiple occasions.
Rather be a fart in space than be a Democrat.
We are all just space farts. -Carl Sagan
“But the KKK was started by Democrats!”
Back during last century's Cold War, the guys wearing those shirts probably uttered the phrase "Better Dead than Red" many, many times.
And the word Commie rolled off their lips often and easily...
This is what's crazy to me, how no amount of logic could stay their opinion, but nameless dog-whistling has allowed them to completely reverse their positions.
Reminds me of the "we have always been at war with..." Switcheroo in 1984
And now they just say Dems are worse than commies. While fully wanting to be fucked by corporate greed
Which is ironic since the Republican color is red.
And they have actually been taken over by Russia.
Good! Let them go. BTW the life expectancy for Russian men is 66 years. Most Trump supporters would already be dead of they were Russian.
They are set to raise the age of retirement past the life expectancy too.
If you think there aren’t millions and millions of young Trump supporters that are now old enough to vote, you’re in for a shock
Dismiss them and pretend they aren’t real at your peril.
It sucks, but it’s true :(
Social media and YouTube channels, especially, are a huge cause for these younger audiences becoming Trump supporters. Steven Crowder, Sargon of Akkad, Jordan Peterson etc have millions of subs and are a breeding ground of conspiracies, hateful speech, and misinformation.
That man has become a cult of personality equal to Trump. I don't care about the pronouns that he got famous for. I care that he thinks the world should go back to the 1950s and how women do not belong on the workforce. He is also very defensive of Christianity going as far as to call the Nazis atheist which is a blatant lie. This guy is milking young white males dry and he is laughing all the way to the bank while doing so. I do not have to read his entire bibliography to come to this conclusion. Just studying him by his videos and tweets, which are almost equally laughable to Trump's, is enough.
and I don't recall anything about forcing women into '50s
Listen to this and explain to me what he meant in your own words. "Having birth pills and women in the workforce halves the salary." Absolute lunacy and the viewers eat it up as complete truth.
I'll check it out when I have time - it's super long. Is there a particular part of the lecture you were referring to I can skip to?
Worth noting, I am of the personal belief I don't have to always agree/support everything a person says and does. He has some advice that I think a lot of folks would benefit from.
I disagreed with Obama's stances on privacy, I still laugh at Louie CKs standup and although I find Guy Fieri's persona to be detestable I think he'd be a fun guy to have a beer with.
I had the video start on the specific statement he made. It's only a couple of minutes long. And I agree with you that there is good advice to be learned in some of his points but he is mostly known for his political/societal views, which is what the majority of his viewer base panders to and I completely disagree with.
Yeah I’m not sure what point he was trying to make there...that seems more a function of globalism and income inequality than gals having BC if you ask me!
The man constantly opines on shit he is vastly unqualified to speak to. Take, for instance, him and his daughter recently claiming that eating only beef cured their depression. I'm gonna go ahead and slap a big fat CITATION NEEDED on that claim.
I was initially skeptical but gave him a chance. That chance was over very quickly after his recent AMA. Someone pressed him on his claim that Nazis were atheists, providing multiple examples which directly contradicted his claim. And they didn't ask in a "gotcha"/"lemme show you how smart I am" way, they asked in a legitimately curious, "please help me understand because maybe I'm missing part of your argument" kind of way. His response? "The Nazis were atheists."
So, uh, yeah fuck Jordan Peterson and his psuedo-intellectual, populist bullshit. He constantly portrays himself as some calm, cool, collected, in-control intellectual willing to have tough debates with his opponents only to make a mockery of rational, productive debate whenever he's given the opportunity.
He panders to a fan base. He gets hate cause he's a hypocritical douchenozzle who has dome valid arguments, but ignores them when they are at ends with his own feelings. I don't blame him personally, once you're getting 1 million + patreon a year, there is little reason to worry about personal opinion vs giving your fans what they want. He's still fairly shitty though.
u/firstworldanarchist gave some concrete examples of what he disliked - is there anything specific you're referring to here, or you just watched a youtube clip and decided 'fuck this guy?'
as I mentioned in my reply to u/firstworldanarchist, I don't have much of an opinion on the guy either way but found his book to have some useful insights, so I wonder how much people know before they choose to write him off.
I have only skimmed through his 12 rules book, but have listened to multiple of his podcasts and interviews, and have come across his name either because of coworkers or my own hobbies so I felt obligated to read more instead of just write it off. Like I said, I don't blame him at the level of money he's making- I think most of his actions are typical. But 'typical' and 'great' or even 'correct' are not the same things. The opinions I've heard of his are sometimes enlightening, but mostly came off as fairly average and occasionally just silly or incorrect. Things such as his opinions on protecting on free speech along with his lawsuit of slander, or his just absolute misconceptions and misrepresentations of Derrida and Foucault.
Add in that so many people parrot and reinforce their previous ideals because they mistakenly consider him an expert and I generally feel like he winds up doing as much harm as good- and if he attempted to correct this course it could/would negatively affect his income.
thanks for a more nuanced answer and polite discussion!
No problem, calling him a 'douchenozzle' was overly lazy and offensive. I know he can be quite polarizing though, myself not being an exception.
definitely polarizing and the AMA you sent illustrates why pretty neatly, but I must confess the book (12 rules) does contain solid advice fwiw, assuming you can get over who wrote it I guess!
Right he's clinical physchologist. He should stick to that because his philosophy is batshit crazy and vapid
That and the fact that he believes in natural hierarchies, so apparently that makes him a fascist, which is equally ridiculous.
Does he believe in them? Because based on a twenty-second google search, it seems to be an undeniable fact of life. There's no more point in believing in the idea, then in believing in the idea of tables.
Or is it that he proposes them as some sort of guide to the way civilization should work? Because the idea that some people are just born "superior" to others, and as such, should be in charge, and that other people are born "lesser" then others, and should serve, is pretty damn fascist, to me.
"Radical progressive left thinking" seems to involve the idea that, while some may be smarter than others, or stronger, or better looking, we should all be given the same freedoms, opportunities, and that we should be given help if we need it. At the core, we are all human, and we all deserve the chance to be happy.
hierarchies aren’t fascist because some people are more talented, or patient, or intelligent, or athletic, and therefore find themselves in authority or more powerful positions. That’s not fascist at all, it’s merely an observation of what happens.
For example, a person crippled by motor neurone disease can be the world’s greatest scientist but is never going to be the worlds most talented footballer. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. Hence a hierarchy.
You have more world experience than a five year old child, therefore should be given more authority. That’s not fascist. It’s natural hierarchy.
It’s when it gets really granular that the arguments start, but that doesn’t dismiss the fact that natural hierarchies are there and should be rejected in their entirety because it’s just not fair.
There are people way better at what i do than i am, but am I equally deserving of their success? Of course not.
You can level the playing field to some extent by ensuring as many people as possible have an equal go of it, but folks are still going to rise to the top of what they do because they’re better at it. That isn’t fascism.
It doesn’t make other people lesser, or remove their value as human beings to society.
To do so, that would be fascist.
hierarchies aren’t fascist
Didn't say they were. I said that insisting that you are born into your role in life is.
For example, a person crippled by motor neurone disease can be the world’s greatest scientist but is never going to be the worlds most talented footballer.
Would you deny him the right to try?
No, it's learned responsibility. I was born just as stupid as that 5-year old, but was given the chance to better myself.
Yes, natural hierarchies exist. If you go read my post, I don't deny it. But they are not the guiding principal of a free society.
Exactly. They are better at what they do. They are not better at what they are. There are people in my field that I know, unquestionably, are not as smart as I am. But they are more successful, and they are "better" then me, because they work hard. They weren't born better then me. they made themselves better then me.
I know people who are just as good as me, but made poor choices, or were denied opportunities, or had bad luck. Their are much worse off then I am. Similar, I know people just as good as me who made better choices, had better opportunities, or had better luck. They are much better off then I am.
The proper hierarchy is based on what you do, not on who you are.
I actually think we’re agreeing, here - People should have equality of opportunity.
Where it gets squirly is that some people are just born with attributes that make them better at a thing.
That doesn’t mean other people shouldn’t be given the same opportunity to do the thing. They may develop into it and become as good by sheer hard work and personal discipline, and they might not.
Maybe that person A is not as good as that person B at something else, and person B is great at it. That person A should be given the same opportunity, nonetheless.
And also, we shouldn’t hinder a person’s opportunity to rise to the top of their field because they have a natural proclivity or simply work a lot harder at it, or both - that’s where it really happens and people shoot up the hierarchy they’re in.
If they can keep themselves together, of course.
To take things on a tangent, it’s very Zen to say you are what you do.
If a person is naturally exceptional at mathematics and what they do is something related to mathematics, then they’ll rise up that particular hierarchy.
However if what they choose to do is farming, or gymnastics, that’s fine and they should have just as much opportunity to go for it.
That’s on a societal level. If we can get society right, then people have equal opportunity.
Where it also get’s squirly is that that can not be relied upon to solve our individual situation.
It should be that way, but if it isn’t there, then it doesn’t fix our individual problem right now.
And I think that’s what Jordan Peterson is driving at - not trying to solve societies problem, but try’s ng to help the individual solve our individual challenges as they we try and navigate around all of societies faults and challenges.
Ps - yes, absolutely, a person with motor neurone disease should be given an opportunity to be a world class footballer, if it weren’t for the frustrating fact that other people’s time, energy and money is involved, and if that can’t be given and the person doesn’t have the natural talent, then they’re not going to become the world’s greatest footballer.
That doesn’t mean a person with motor neurone disease should have the opportunity to enjoy football and kick the ball around if they have the facility to do so, and some people have that opportunity and some don’t.
At a societal level - give them the opportunity. If we can and as much as we can.
At the individual level, you just might not find yourself with that opportunity because society has faults no matter how right we try and get it.
I agree entirely with you that bowing to natural hierarchies don’t make for an equal society.
From everything i can see, what Peterson is looking at is not society, but the individual. He’s not trying to fix society, but trying to help the individual when they find they’re failing to navigate what is a really challenging world that doesn’t have equality of opportunity or individuals who have lost their way entirely.
And it’s that last point - individuals who have lost their way entirely, those are people who may be drawn to fascist, rigid hierarchies in society as a comfort to replace the need for them to find a solution within themselves for their individual problems.
Anyway - like i say, i think we actually agree on a lot here, and I’m not saying that people born to a situation should be stuck in it for life. That’s a society problem and and individual one.
The problems that an individual is most likely to fix, is to fix their individual level problems.
And collectively we can all try and fix the problems of society that hold back equality of opportunity. And that’s a much, much tougher set if problems to fix.
glad I'm not the only one who sees this.
it's concerning because I agree that the radical left has demonized him for daring to question some of the more absurd things they champion (which I believe hurts the left as whole and actually makes them regressive)
Yup. My little brother is in his 20s and he is soooo far gone. I have hope that he will see the light and move past this like I did with my Ron Paul days. I’m afraid however that he won’t. I left my home and went to college and grew up. He still lives with his “Sovereign Citizen” father and is in deep with the bull shit.
I guess bringing him along with you as much as possible could help, exposing him to as many, varied opinions in ways that aren’t confrontational, “ Us v Them” type conversations
Yeah I hear you. Problem is he is on the other side of the country outside of my influence and living with patient zero so he is pretty lost at the moment. Sadly him and I avoid any political discussions at this time.
A counterpoint, there are indeed a young generation of trump supporters- but I'd be willing to bet their voter turnout shares similar rates to others their age, which is not so good. The reason the older generations are targeted isn't just because of their views, it's because their high consistency to go out and vote (which is reasonable due to being retired, more free time, less social and career obligations, etc) which causes them to have extremely higher than expected representation.
Now obviously it's their views that are a problem, and not their turnout, but tweaking either can get the country closer in line. I'm fairly sure it's more reasonable to expect an octogenarian to die of natural causes rather than have an epiphany regarding politics at that point in their life.
I'd add that there are reasons why young people don't vote in the same numbers - they don't have mortgages or savings to worry about, haven't had a lifetime of paying taxes, and aren't as deeply invested in society for as long as older people.
I expect this will be the first time that politics has been so totally consuming that younger voting turnout will be greater than it has been for a long time
As someone who didn't vote during the 2008 and 2012 presidential election, and is now actively involved in local politics and a deputy voter registrar- I think you could be right.
obviously it's their views that are a problem, and not their turnout, but tweaking either can get the country closer in line.
I'm sure that you didn't mean it this way, but I am strongly opposed to very nearly any action that would discourage any citizen from voting. I want every conservative, democrat, socialist, libertarian, nazi, communist, and anyone else to vote.
That's the only way to get democracy.
I wasn't implying to try and keep them from voting. I was referring how to put it gently, a natural decline in their population would affect the numbers.
That's what I figured. Just wanted to make it clear to anyone else.
Millions and millions?
Shall we start a collection for their one way plane tickets? Only catch, can’t come back ever. I’m sure they’ll LOVE it there...
The perfect expression of Republican resentment of Democrats determining their thinking over knowing anything at all about wtf is going on.
But since Russia is awesome now, let's pass equivalent healthcare and gun control legislation. That'll own those libs, etc.
I wonder how a re-remake of Red Dawn would fare today.
They did it, didn't do well but they changed the Russians to North Koreans
No. I mean a re-remake. Like how many red necks would get offended about a MSM produced film that portrays Russia invading the US. Even if its back in the 1980s.
that portrays Russia invading the US.
The have invaded us. They just walked into the white house instead of sending tanks down main street.
No need to remake it, just re-release it. Many documented instances of Trumpers, for example, complaining about readings of _The Declaration of Independence_ as "liberal." I'm not sure they'd grok that it was made in the 80s. (I'm deeply sad that many of the kids I went to high school with - who were Reaganites then and used "commie" and "Russkie" etc as a slur - are so fervently down the Trump rabbithole they now embrace Putin.)
Its fascinating how the USSR Russia Federation went fascist overnight and how the Reaganites flocked to that.
Depends on if they get Chuck Norris to be in it.
"Red Don", its about Donny Moscow now
Those morons have no fucking clue what they’re talking about... I’d bet my last dollar that they’ve never been outside of their state let alone the country.
You're correct. I can't think of the last time anyone in my family has left the state.
Nascar races don't count.
And I'm willing to bet the shirt was designed by Russians
And sewn/printed in China.
When I voice my dislike for the current President and his administration, I’m quite often told to leave the country if I don’t like it.
Here they are tho admitting they’d rather be Russian than another type of American.
The hypocrisy with these people just kills me.
THEN GO BE A RUSSIAN and get your traitorous shit outta here
I wonder where those shirts were designed.
Next door to the asbestos factory.
down the road from the oil refinery near the monsanto plant
That's just past the shuttered public school next to the old coal mine.
Considering how fast a Russian TV host got hold of one...
I can't wait until that generation dies off.
Fucked up thing is Healthcare for All is "OMG, socialism!". Meanwhile they're on Medicare and collect Social Security.
"How are we supposed to pay for that?"
votes for tax cuts for the wealthy
Hell, I am a part of that generation and even I can't wait for it to die off.
I'm like, at the end of the date range for that generation so, not me yet, just the rest of those ignorant assholes.
No you yet
Too bad Russians were too busy protesting their own shitbag to see it or care.
Cool. The Aeroflot gate is that way ==>
Have a nice flight.
dems agree. get your first passport, fattrash.
It's weird how well amplification of minority view works in propoganda activities. All it takes is a handful of people to state a.position and then some willing media source to exaggerate its relevance. This is driving me mad.
More then anything we need a population that understands this method and can avoid its influence but I don't know if that's possible. Our education system was built to breed compliance.
According to the world prosperity index Russia is indeed the greatest country in the world. If you dont count the other 100 countries that come before Russia. https://www.prosperity.com/rankings https://www.prosperity.com/globe/russia
That's a cool website
how fast republicans go from russia and the rest of the ussr is our mortal enemy to russia is our best friend.
It must be such a mind fuck to be a Russian watching state TV these days. Anyone got a link?
You can't own a handgun in Russia. They also have the world's highest abortion rate.
Ever get the feeling these MAGAchuds don't really think through their positions?
As a Non-American, I was quite shocked to see that shirt... I’m not very political, but the one thing I’ve ALWAYS admired about Americans is how Patriotic and Proud you are to be Americans... I was quite disgusted when people actually agreed with that comment on those shirts... I’m not sure how anyone can agree with what your President is doing, and how it can be justified... I wish you all the best of luck
America: Love it or leave it.
You do have to wonder where they cribbed that design from.
The Russian design looks awfully close......
Hey! Murcia is a Democracy! If you don’t like it, you can giiit out.
Well at least they admit it
Maybe those idiots should just go and move to Russia then. I'm sure they would love it there.
Is treason still punishable by death?
You can't be a republican and love America
Again. For probably be there 50th time in a couple days. I'm not a republican and songbird McCain certainly doesn't love America.
You're an idiot
You're a coward.
You're a dipshit Trumpist and its probably tainted you for life already. Have fun dying friendless and alone. You truly are the lowest of the low. Q-anon and everything else you believe is is dumbass bullshit, just like you.
I have so much more fun than you it's funny. My life is terrific. You're the one who can't say anything positive and I can hear you crying inside. My wife and I were laughing at how disgruntled you are this morning. How's your wife? Have you eaten any Antifa ass yet this morning, you seem hangry?
Yeah you're a friendless loser. Society has rightly chosen to reject you. You are a net negative.
I can feel the hurt in you. Is talking to me about it helping?
They can move to Russia when Trump loses to a Democrat.
Hey Russia, you can have them, all of them since they think they have it so bad here.
This is the shit they'll be saying when Russia invades Alaska, any American who buys into such a mentality is a threat to national security
I wonder what Sarah Palin thinks
I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that these two assholes were paid by trolls to make those shirts and wear them. This kind of thing was mentioned a few times in one of the early rounds of indictments.
Then why are Trump supporters wearing those shirts?
Because they're misguided and being herded into an opinion that didn't actually originate from within themselves?
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