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The “false alarm” missile attack notification in Hawaii wasn’t just to phones. This was the broadcast on television.

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958 points · 6 months agoGilded1
623 points · 6 months ago

My eyes hurt from that moving sign

There's a light blue streak across my vision after trying to read it.

764 points · 6 months ago

The light blue streak is now highlighting reddit comments that I choose to read!

holy shit, I audibly gasped when I read your comment because I didn't see the streak until I read your words

Guys guys, are we sure it isn't actually a white and golden streak?

Nope, I think it's blue or maybe black

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133 points · 6 months ago

GET OUT OF MY HEAD CHARLES

Charles he got my headddd

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34 points · 6 months ago

Who needs reddit gold

When you have Reddit blue

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My head was tilted when watching it, the blue streak does not align to anything. Help.

Tilt your head again. It will line up.

wooooaaaaahhhhhhh duuuuuuuuude

This is fucking trippy

I laughed so hard at this because I thought exactly the same.

My thought process when I read this:

Huh, he’s right.

...How did he know? Wait, did he change the color of his comment with Reddit magic I don’t know about? Am I an unsuspecting victim to some devious trickery? ...You brilliant wizard, /u/westergo, you.

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Huh, he’s right.

7 points · 6 months ago

OMG

Get out of my head?!

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32 points · 6 months ago

goddamnit reddit stop hacking my brain

Me too, i also see a light blue stripe

Me too! thats weird.

It's not weird - we all just spent like a minute staring at a red bar. The cone cells in our eyes that respond to red spent that whole time signalling and got tired. Now a lot of them are taking a quick rest, so our brain gets the other cones signalling for the white screen but not the red, a signal which it understands to be cyan.

Just because you can explain it all well and good doesn't make it not weird.

FKN LAWL! lmao!

Yeah, cool and all, but definitely weird.

10 points · 6 months ago

looks black and blue to me

White and gold to me

This dress shit was closer to starting WWIII than any missile theat

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Holy shit. That fucking blue streak.

Maybe that's the real attack.

I was watching it with my head at an angle and mine's about 15 degrees off-axis

Here's another example of this phenomenon.

Since the video's kind of vague, I'll give my own shot at an explanation, but I'm not a lightologist so this may be a bit off in places:

Your eye has three types of cones that are stimulated by certain wavelengths of light. When the same area of cones is exposed to the same kind of light for a certain amount of time - for example, when you try to read the text on a bright red band and don't move your eyes much - the ones being stimulated become fatigued and stop responding to stimuli. If you look at something else right afterwards - such as mostly white website - the fatigued cones will barely react, but the cones next to them, which were not stimulated and are still active, will work as normal. So if you looked at a red band and your red cones are fatigued, you end up with a blue-greenish afterimage as you can temporarily only perceive the wavelengths that appear blue and green to you, but not the red ones. Your eye essentially "filters out" the color it was overexposed to - and white minus red is blue/green.

metoo

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Holy shit... no joke... when I heard it was read aloud I stopped even trying to read that shit... my brain actually hurt trying to read it.

They've got some work to do...

I think it was just the recording that made it look like that

I really hope so because if that was the real deal it's pretty sorry...

"damn this blue streak is annoying, but it's ok, the missile will clear it all up"

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35 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

Damn, that's scary. Thanks for the mirror, looks like the Twitter clip is deleted/taken down. Or blocked in my country for whatever reason, after taking a further look.

It was removed because it has English Premier League footage. That is a big no-no.

14 points · 6 months ago

Serious question, what's up with the advice to pull to the side of the road if you're driving? Assuming you're near a major city (i.e. a likely target), you know that you basically need to drive away from the downtown area. Even if you only had 10 minutes, that could put you 10+ miles further from the blast epicenter which could easily be the difference between being vaporized, and surviving.

Probably because you're more likely to die in a car crash because (in most normal cases) the bomb/missile isn't going to hit you specifically.

In most historical conflicts, entire cities are rarely destroyed all in one attack. Only really with nukes.

7 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

Driving away from population centers would surely be the best action to take, assuming unlimited road capacity. In the real world you'd just get stuck in a traffic jam the like of which the world has never seen. While the bombs fall and fallout settles.

2 points · 6 months ago

Not to mention that it would take minutes for the ICBM to hit - how far can you really travel in that amount of time?

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19 points · 6 months ago

Who's the hot asian looking player in white?

edit: it's Son Heung-min

11 points · 6 months ago

Son Heung-min

Well you know it's not real because it doesn't sound like its been run through a shower and microphone underwater.

Any legitimate warning you would be completely unable to understand. At least according to the drills.

Why?

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358 points · 6 months ago

I'm seeing a blue line after staring at that red banner. Pretty neat

85 points · 6 months ago

Can't unsee. Literally, get this shit off my eyes!

36 points · 6 months ago

Ok

29 points · 6 months ago

Thanks, it's gone now

how u did this

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It's funny because I just noticed the same thing as I read your comment. Your comment and every reply I read were highlighted blue for me.

I'm trippin out man!!

You are trippin out...man.

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This happens to me all day long. It's super annoying.

2 points · 6 months ago

Wtf I thought I was high or something

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Does anyone else find it hilarious that their warning alert is a small ticker across the screen. Gotta get the nuke warning out but don't want to completely interrupt the show.

That was my thought as well.

If a nuclear warhead were about to touch down in my state I would sure as fuck want to be warned by more than just a scroll-bar. I'm not entirely sure how much help it would be, but it would certainly get me away from any windows.

and what if you were on the toilet when that happened? You just go back to your game, like nothing happened while you hear your neighbors screaming?

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And into a refrigerator.

That's not even the part that worries me. How long was that alert? 20 seconds? If I'm refilling my drink or take a pee and miss it? Guess tough luck for me. Why would they not fully interupt all broadcasts for the duration of the potential nuclear threat? Crazy pills.

Personally, I would want to get back to my regularly scheduled programming.

Pretty sure it's on a loop.

The alert plays multiple times, we also have the same thing for hurricanes and tsunamis.

Still though, wasn't enough to wake me up until my girlfriend woke me up a few minutes into the alert.

Why don't they have an actual human record the message, so it is actually clearly understood?

I don't see the point of a robotic message.

My guess would be similar to why some tornado sirens sound odd or abnormal, its to grab your attention

it's because if you hear a regular siren you might miss it because youll think its a cop or something and it will become background noise, but when it sounds like the video above, it will immediately grab your attention

If you were to hear a human voice talking about something like that most people might not even listen because they would think its a TV show or radio or something like that but when you hear a robotic voice start talking that's not normal and it will automatically catch your attention.

This is just my theory of course, i could be super wrong

That tornado siren is actually the creepiest thing I've seen/heard in a while.

5 points · 6 months ago

You unlock this door with the key of imagination.

Beyond it is another dimension.

A dimension of sound. A dimension of sight.

A dimension of mind.

You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas.

You've just crossed over into the Twilight Zone.

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Holy fuck that siren was terrifying

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classic comedy

I wouldn't want to deal with the nuclear survivor hooligan Hawaiian Everton fans rioting.

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What if there was a missile from some super secret clandestine organisation and some spy thwarted their plans last second.

84 points · 6 months ago

You mean like North Korea and the US Military?

plot twist, the missile was the US's and the spy was Korean

Shit Johnson, they're on to us.

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With all the movies that end with the general public having no idea that they were seconds away from complete extinction, you gotta wonder if any of it happens in reality.

I read somewhere from a reliable source it happens more often than you'd like to know. Biological threats, weapons stopped at the border, homegrown terrorism.. It's pretty scary, but what can you do?

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You could literally only have one button that said "do not press" and someone would fuck up eventually and press it. Bigger accidents have happened. We are the error.

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If systems for issuing such alarms can have an "accidentally pressed the button" type of mishap then it's either a shit system or it's bullshit and something's up. Because that's like saying that someone in some super secret underground bunker accidentally spilled some coffee on laptop and launched a nuke. Don't these decisions go through filters that make absolutely sure that the information is correct?

Just spitballing but I would think that there are few filters by design to maximize the time people have to seek shelter.

guy on msnbc said it's a 7 step verification process

Are you sure you'd like to send this alert to millions of people warning them of their impending doom? Y/N

The second it takes to hit yes isn't costing any lives, and it's more likely to save people from say, having a heart attack when they hear a missile is inbound when it isn't really. This came from a poorly designed system for sure.

Just to be nitpicky, can you really guarantee that an extra second couldn't save lives? What if someone is listening to the radio (and would hear the alert) one second but turns the radio off the next? That's just one of many scenarios where a second could actually matter.

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35 points · 6 months ago

Officials said the alert was the result of human error and not the work of hackers or a foreign government. The mistake occurred during a shift-change drill that takes place three times a day at the emergency command post, according to Richard Rapoza, a spokesman for the agency. He said a new procedure was put in place hours after the mistake requiring two-step authentication before any such alert is sent out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/13/us/hawaii-missile.html

They probably assumed that the fact there would be several stages to get to a launch could act as the check and forgot that the drill would go through all but one (the launch) of those stages.

It's nice that they choose the missile scenario instead of say, I don't know, a hurricane or something less panic inducing.

They never planned for a mistake and they would likely have picked it since it's an excellent example of an extremely time sensitive event to use for a test.

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Maybe it was a domino effect sort of thing where one person "press the button" and everyone else in similar positions who can call the shots when it comes to emergency situations flipped their shit thinking it was real?

10 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

That is the reaction of me and the other person with me. It seems laughable this is possible with the push of a button. And more likely something is up.

However this did happen.

The short of it is: a dropped hand tool caused the rocket fuel to blow up inside a nuclear missle silo almost launching a 9 megaton nuclear weapon into the heartland of America.

Awesome podcast I learned this from. Human Error In Volatile Situations by This American Life.

Oh fuck. Also this.

In 1983 a hero by the name of Stanislav Petrov averted nuclear war with a cool head. His soviet early warning system read “incoming missile” and mutually assured destruction meant they needed to attack in full before they possibly lost their capabilities to retaliate.

4 points · 6 months ago

In 1983 a hero by the name of Stanislav Petrov alerted nuclear war with a cool head

I'm guessing you meant "averted nuclear war"

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Also this

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69 points · 6 months ago

Here's a crazy thought: there actually was a missile, and we shot it down.

40 points · 6 months ago

Is there any evidence, like literally any corroborating evidence of a missile or a anti-missile response at all? I'm sure it sounds cool to think something like that happened, but that would be some serious shit that would not go unnoticed.

27 points · 6 months ago

Probably not, because this was definitely just an error like the news report is saying.

I'm just having a bit of fun fantasizing James Bond stories.

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Pretty sure if we shot a down a missile Trump's twitter feed would let us know by congratulating himself nonstop.

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Maybe it was a monster about to attack but we killed it before it got to us

I think we'd be at war if that were true. Something would have been blown up.

If it is anything other than what their saying, I think a much more reasonable scenario would be a test of reactions and preparedness to a short term alert. See what it might look like.

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5 points · 6 months ago

I'm sure the "launch nuke" button has a few more steps than the "we're under attack" button.

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8 points · 6 months ago

They probably put more attention into making sure it goes through when it needs to. Having a few scared people is better than a lot of dead people.

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Jesus christ, if I saw that on TV, I would fucking shit myself.

I feel so sorry for the people there, fuck...

And what annoys me, so many people are just cracking jokes about the guy who put his kids into a sewer drain to protect them.

If you had a family in Hawaii and saw that message on TV, you would freak the fuck out to!

Thank you. I live here and would never have thought to shelter in one of the few “hardened” structures that actually exist on island with mostly single wall construction. I am luck to live on one of the islands with a low population density and a low likelihood of being struck. He was clearly on Oahu. That man thought on his feet and was trying to ensure the survival of his children to the best of his ability. I doubt half of the people cracking jokes would have reacted in a manner that left anything other than shit in their pants.

Accuracy of NK weapons is probably not nearly as exact as others, during the cold war Soviets made up for bad accuracy by simply tripling the power of the weapon. Kim could aim for Honolulu and accidentally hit square on top of your house due to relatively bad accuracy of not well tested targeting mechanisms.

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that guy was being a good dad!

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Shit, haven't heard that one, but, props to that guy, I'm not sure how effective it was but god damn he took it seriously like you need to.

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178 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LRF2-d2CjM

Family putting their kids into storm drain to survive a the missile.

EDIT: changed to mirror provided below by /u/pilvy

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256 points · 6 months ago

That caption with 'wtf' is the reason why some people survive and some won't. Never take such a thing lightly, do everything in your power to make sure you and others around you are safe. If this were a real attack the filmer would be dead and the dad and his kids will be safe and sound underground.

Until a possible water surge comes and drowns them after a huge bomb hits right off the coast.... Luckily they're nowhere near the coast in Hawaii

Or until the shockwave collapses the drain

If it collapses the drain any other structures in the area likely will be collapsed, and of you're outside then you're going to get fucked by the radiation coming off the nuke. The drain probably is the safest place.

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Or even in the false alarm they are overcome by a gas thats in the drain and die, do not enter confined space unless you have a gas tester to test the quality of the air. They directly put their kids in danger just by putting them in the drain.

Chance of gas VS nukes - Im going with gas.

They did not know it was a false alarm.

overcome by a gas thats in the drain and die

that's why the kids went in first.

For real. The asphyxiate quicker providing the adults with ample warning in the case of gas. Truly god's little miracles.

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Ya but it wasn't a real attack, so the camera person just got a sweet video whilst some family got to hang out in a storm drain for 38 minutes.

They thought it was. "This is not a drill"

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This is so sad. This is not a small matter. People's lives were endangered when that message was sent out. Why do we have buffoons running our lives?

These will be the people who populate a Fallout-like world, with ghouls and shit

3 points · 6 months ago

I hope someone told them that it is safe to come out now.

2 points · 6 months ago

Why the fuck have i seen this twice now. A link to twitter with a link to the actual video

It wasn't like that when I posted this originally. It used to be directly to a tweet with the video.

2 points · 6 months ago

Tunnel snakes rule!

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So my brother happens to be in Hawaii for work this week. He rarely has to travel. My dad called me around 130 today and said hey your brother got a false alarm on his phone that they were under a missile attack and he left you a message basically saying goodbye. Sooo, this afternoon I got a voicemail from my brother that I haven't listened to yet. I don't think I want to. Apparently he called his wife and my parents and me in a panic. I mean, the alert said 'this is not a drill'! I can't imagine - the poor guy :(

i would ask him if it's ok to delete it and then delete it. if you have a good relationship with him currently, it's not gonna get better by listening.

Nah man! There could be some juicy shit on that.

"ILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR STEALING MY LEGO. I PISSED IN YOUR MILK EVERY MORNING FOR A YEAR! sobs I just want KFC before I go"

I'd listen to it for a good cry. a real good cry. call him back and tell him how much you love him.

"I'm so sorry to tell you but I used your toothbrush as an asshole scratcher for years... goodbye love you."

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Life as we know it may come to an explosive halt on Hawaii, and perhaps the entirety of the United States, but Heaven forbid we interrupt that Progressive commercial!

65 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

that's headache inducing.

EDIT: I did mean the text, wow it was tough to keep reading without getting a migraine.

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I think he meant it more like "it's hard to read and hurts my brain"
..atleast that's how I see it...

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16 points · 6 months ago

Seriously this really shows how shitty 30fps is

I think they were talking about the actual readability and of it

whoever decided to use a thin serif font on a strong red background for an EMERGENCY warning that has moving text was clearly not thinking.

Readability could easily be fixed by making the text a bold sans serif font.

Not sure why it's a scrolling message too. They should just show all the text on screen and then scroll up a few lines (like star wars) if they run out of room.

I think it's the same with Amber alerts too

22 points · 6 months ago

Seriously you don't want to interrupt the soccer broadcast in the event of nuclear attack?

We don't have that technology yet

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If there's a news broadcast etc the graphics could actually show some useful hints of parts of an area more likely to be effected etc.

It also gives a chance for broadcasters to put information up as it comes up as info graphics.

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If that's the case then it works, there is still a threat

4 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

Allegedly this video was released by a CNN intern claiming this is the "doomsday video" that CNN would air if we were about to be attacked by a nuclear missile or some other doomsday scenario. Pretty eerie, imagine this would be the last thing you hear

Also i always thought that [this simulation] (https://youtu.be/QBK3QpQVnaw?t=5m49s) was pretty creepy too

It's not just the phones and the TVs, it was the entire system. My sister lives on the big island, and was driving when the alert came over the radio at the same time as her phone. She and her friends stopped on the road and laid down by a berm.

There was a comment in another reddit thread saying that where they were in Hawaii, the civil defense sirens went off too.

Another thread mentioned that the police were in the streets instructing people to go inside.

This was a full on emergency to the people in Hawaii.

Damn. Wonder how many pants were shit in.

The popcorn you're eating has been pissed in, film at 11.

I'll always upvote a Kentucky Fried Movie reference.

When I make this reference, no one ever gets it

Considering many people including me woke up to this, Id say a lot.

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I'd be too busy shitting myself and wondering why they're still showing soccer to be able to find shelter.

15 points · 6 months ago

That seems like a bit of overreaction just because someone had an accy on both teams to score in the first half

a cracking game from spurs tho!

8 points · 6 months ago

harry. kane.

I don't watch soccer usually, but I was sick today so I watched the game. Is Son always that good? Kane seemed really impressive, but Son had that great finesse to his game.

2 points · 6 months ago

Son is also crazy good

I've been drinking and had to look down at the score which had solid font to make sure it wasn't me

Man, that's some haunting shit to see. Imagine seeing that live without knowing it was an error.

At least it happened at half time.

If there's a missile coming to destroy the surroundings at which I'm watching your TV program, maybe have your warning interrupt your program and fill the entire screen. Do I need to be paying any attention to anything other than getting the message and beatin' feet to a shelter? C'mon, NBC!

Wtf. This was an accident or this was from keep calm chive on? I keep seeing diff posts about this missile

57 points · 6 months ago

Newer articles say that an employee accidentally pushed the wrong button. Boy would I hate to be that guy right now...

79 points · 6 months ago

That's a massive fuckup. When people start associating "THIS IS NOT A DRILL" with false alarm then you may as well toss the whole alarm system.

I know. That’s why it’s wtf. Like, how was that an accident is filing a missile at Hawaii right next to “send common message?” Who engineered this thing?

I almost feel like it was on purpose so they could test how a population would react to such a threat.

This, I think this was a planned thing. They want to see what people do in the first few min. Im sure this "Accident" will be well investigated by the various agencies we have in the states and they are going to have learned a lot from this. I think we are pointed twards north korea right now and they are guaging the public response.

Another quite alarming theory I have is this is actually a hacker who got into the USA missile defense system and they are blaming an accident in order to hide just how bad it is.

Anyways its fun to speculate, hopefully some more concrete information comes out so we can figure out whats really going on.

Let's hope this wasn't some cockamamie test ordered because the president is itching for a war with North Korea and a general wanted to see what people would do if shit went down. Realistically though, yeah that seems like something they'd do, but it's equally plausible it was an accident. Conspiracy theories often attempt to show that a chaotic event actually occurred on purpose and thus brings comfort to people, but reality can be chaotic.

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Or to distract

You may be onto something. They could be monitoring the analytics so they can prepare.

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2 points · 6 months ago

Good thing you aren't in emergency management. Human error is very prevalent in all things.

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So, a single button simultaneously activates warning messages over live tv as well as sending out texts to everyone and it's possible for an employee to accidentally press it?

Sure.

"okay steve, if there were an actual missile and we needed to activate this, you'd do everything as i just demonstrated, with the final step being to push this big red but- STEVE NO"

I'm shocked nobody died in some isolated bit of chaos..

Watch the classic Twilight Zone episode "The Shelter"... Seriously.

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It's pretty obvious by the video it couldn't have just been a accident pressing "the wrong button". According to the warning they would have button press or enter specific information.. -not a drill -area effected -nature of threat -time of threat -response to threat etc

guessing they got hacked and don't want to admit it

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7 points · 6 months ago

Melbourne just installed these and ran their first test a couple weeks ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZptmEJoBl7I

An actual missile warning from Japan when a North Korean missile flew over. All the different systems they have for warning is pretty interesting.

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2 points · 6 months ago

It's nice that they communicate what is fucking going on though. Our bull shit was just ,"Seek cover." Like seriously, at least tell us who is going to kill us!

In France, every first wednesday of the month, siren drills happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZduE8Mt5UP8

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We had a test alarm a couple weeks ago. I don't have a video of it but in Canada (atlantic canada at least) it is a big red box that takes up most of the screen and it plays the same sound saying "this is a test, if there were a real incident, instructions on how to take action would follow and be displayed on the screen" and it honestly it scared the shit out of me.

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Pretty sure mass hysteria was created because of this

It’s been removed for me? Anyone got a mirror?

6 points · 6 months ago

Mirror was already provided 5 hours ago by /u/Wes___Mantooth, it's the very top comment.

Streamable Mirror

Looked through the top comments, must’ve missed it 🤷‍♂️

2 points · 6 months ago

I've only just now noticed someone already linked it for you, my bad. Guess it is easily done!

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I love how long into the emergency banner it takes go actually get to the important information.

what if you dont speak or understand english?

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