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[–]sinan810 2080 points2081 points  (72 children)

I'm glad they didn't do it 2 years consecutively

[–]fergiejr 992 points993 points  (62 children)

Yeah it gave time for some new cool things go develop.

I bet now they can do a really cool space x and the colony of other planets episode

And all the new planet systems were discovering etc.

Lots has changed in 5 years

[–]SoggyFrenchFry 64 points65 points  (1 child)

According to the subtitle of the show "possible worlds" from a comment with teaser trailer, it will definitely dive into all of the planets/stars/black holes/etc. that we have found since the original taping.

[–]TTheuns 303 points304 points  (40 children)

What about gravitational waves being discovered

[–]tomtomtumnus 286 points287 points  (33 children)

Gravitational Waves are a must cover. There is nothing more important going on in Astrophysics right now

[–]Rory_B_Bellows 171 points172 points  (16 children)

The Event Horizon Telescope is processing data for a direct image if a black hole. We should have a picture this year.

[–]TheFlashFrame 25 points26 points  (11 children)

Easily one of the biggest discoveries since this show aired.

[–]DivisionXV 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I figured they would go into depth on the meat planet Carl Sagan spoke about.

[–]Johnny_Mc2 4 points5 points  (6 children)

what about that “interstellar object” that was discovered this year? That was really cool for those of us who don’t keep up with space news as heavily as others. also that weird star that people thought was an artificial megastructure was cool. also I’m surprised the series didn’t touch on Gobekli Tepe, since that’s linked to the sky and changes our understanding of humans, I figured something would be mentioned, hopefully the new series touches on it!

[–]tnorthb 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I hope they really focus on all the development between the two seasons. It's so easy to miss big breakthroughs now because every other day there is some sensationalists headline related to science. NDT is a good person to help separate the wheat from the chaff

[–]TooShiftyForYou 5859 points5860 points  (437 children)

Season 1 was so full of great information and awesome visual explanations, I can only imagine that 5 years later it will be even better.

[–]NachoDipper 2655 points2656 points  (163 children)

Damn has it really been 5 years since season 1?

[–]Daveed84 1893 points1894 points  (99 children)

It aired in 2014, but it'll be 5 years by the time season 2 airs in 2019

[–]timisher 487 points488 points  (66 children)

Guess I’m lucky then, I just watched it for the first time last week!

[–]WeeBo-X 394 points395 points  (59 children)

Yeah, but we're used to waiting for the next season, your pain has just begun.

[–]Rangersguy11 177 points178 points  (56 children)

I did this for game of thrones. I binged the first 6 seasons and ended it right in the middle of season 7. Ended up having to wait week to week to finish n now I'm stuck waiting like the rest of the world. Should've just waited for it to end before I started it.

[–]ctruvu 130 points131 points  (33 children)

part of the fun is going to the post-episode threads on r/gameofthrones every week. and speculating until the next episode or season

[–]_demetri_ 143 points144 points  (20 children)

I’m more of a r/freefolk type of dude. I was banned from r/gameofthrones for commenting that I thought Gendry was hot...

[–]Jagasaur 18 points19 points  (5 children)

They really banned you for that?

That's one of my fiance's celebrity crushes and I'm totally okay with it. He's a sexy dude

[–]Gervant_of_Lyria 9 points10 points  (3 children)

They're pussies, they even have a "don't sexually objectify actors" rule. I mean, what the fuck? We're all just hairless apes, wanting to fuck attractive people is our prime directive.

[–]Reapper97 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Well.. to be fair, those arms made me rethink some things.

[–]GraphicDesignMonkey 10 points11 points  (4 children)

What'd the difference between the freefolk and regular GoT subs? Was never quite sure.

[Efit] just saw my question was answered below!

[–]expateli 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Think about it like alcohol. The regular GoT subs are like drinking a glass of wine with dinner. Freefolk is like mainlining everclear.

They'll both get you to where you want to go, but one is a far more agressive approach.

[–]SuperTrampSociety 26 points27 points  (0 children)

r/FreeFolk isn't full of fookin kneelers

[–]YouDontKnowWhatIMean 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Freefolk is memes and broadcasting spoilers.

[–]GumdropGoober[🍰] 29 points30 points  (3 children)

/gameofthrones is for general discussion.

/r/freefolk is for top tier memes and debauchery.

[–]crimsonc 3 points4 points  (10 children)

I've only seen the first two. I've seen no Mad Men, Walking Dead, House of Cards, Veep, The American Office or West Wing and they all sound like shows I'd love. I've got loads to enjoy yet!

That annoys people for some reason.

Edit: Also never seen Deadwood or Westworld which sound great.

[–]timisher 6 points7 points  (3 children)

West world is the shit. Watched it like 3 times now. American office is one of the top comedy’s. Mad men was boring, walking dead is good to binge watch but most of the episodes are just filler.

[–]OnyxPhoenix 101 points102 points  (17 children)

Shut up. 2014 was last year and I'll hear no more about it.

[–]everred 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Man I wish we could reset the sim to 2015, but with some minor adjustments to the params

[–]regoapps 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just have to wait for the player to press F9. Hopefully he remembered to press F5 before he chose the disaster route for this playthrough.

[–]PlsDetox 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I feel like 2005 was last year.

[–]0galo 86 points87 points  (2 children)

On the Cosmic Calendar, that is only 0.011426086956522 of the last second of the last day.

Not very long relatively speaking.

[–]ciucco 223 points224 points  (52 children)

*neil degrasse tyson rolls eyes and explains condescendingly* That's how time works.

[–]white_genocidist 126 points127 points  (44 children)

The Reddit turnabout on NDT is quite remarkable. 3 years ago this guy was worshipped as a god around here.

It's right up there with the swift souring on Jennifer Lawrence, same era actually.

Edit: and Bill Nye too, just months ago. It only took a single, reportedly terrible Netflix show to completely destroy the immense amount of goodwill this guy had (inexplicably) accumulated in this place. The mob is fickle...

[–]Jamrock_Jammer 73 points74 points  (4 children)

Lord help Keanu Reeves, that sad eyed angel is ambrosia of the gods to redditors right now. I hope it stays that way but alas, this is Reddit.

[–]GreenTunicKirk 143 points144 points  (22 children)

NDT did it to himself tho. His Twitter was full of condescending snark, and it got real old real fast.

Bill Nye just got too into his own shtick, and when his show didn’t deliver on the science and was more preachy than informational, the hive turned.

[–]Pangolinsareodd 93 points94 points  (17 children)

So much this. The real talent of Carl Sagan was that he wasn’t condescending to anybody

[–]Seanspeed 57 points58 points  (10 children)

Which is pretty remarkable since he wrote entire books about how people's thinking can go wrong and lead us to believe silly or false things(Demon Haunted World) and yet didn't come off as overly preachy or demeaning doing so.

[–]SuicideBonger 12 points13 points  (6 children)

You should go on Wikipedia and read about what Sagan's fellow faculty members thought about him. A lot of them didn't really like him because he seemed to be much more into "pop" science, than serious research. But I think they mistook his desire to make science more approachable for smugness.

[–]Chris_RandomNumbers 4 points5 points  (4 children)

If the mans gift was to communicate complex and often impregnable theory to the masses, then that's his gift. It narks me to think people deride Sagan for not being the very pinnacle of a science professor. He very likely wasn't the smartest, or most knowledgable. But he was someone I could listen to all day long. And that's an important role to fill.

[–]mursilissilisrum 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Most of his books were just about stuff that he was interested in, as far as I can tell. I think that Demon Haunted World was written in the spirit of him giving cautionary advice to grandchildren of his who he wouldn't get to see grow up.

[–]Siggycakes 7 points8 points  (1 child)

The Bill Nye show is pretty awful. It doesn't make me dislike him though. I just think it needed some better delivery.

[–]matteatschicken 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Did you try to watch bill Nye's show, though? It might help you understand the change of heart.

[–]WeylinWebber 74 points75 points  (4 children)

His personality in one sentence but god I love the show

[–]fliptout 37 points38 points  (2 children)

As long as they have enough producers dedicated to reeling in his ego, the show should be just fine.

[–]vemeron 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I am sure If they feed him a few interns every few takes it should be fine.

[–]TasteTheRaimbow 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Season 2 comes out in 2019, season 1 was 2014

[–]Track2onStageFour 237 points238 points  (10 children)

the intro alone would always get me excited for the episode

[–]LordStinkleberg 42 points43 points  (1 child)

Also, Ultra HD/4k will be a given. It will look incredible for sure.

[–]loki-1982 698 points699 points  (68 children)

For fans of this i would also recommend the wonders of the universe/solar system/ life series by Brian Cox. All great series on the same subject matter while still also as comprehensible

[–]semogen 206 points207 points  (36 children)

Wonders of the Universe is way more informative and less spoon-fed than Cosmos. Not that cosmos is bad, but I preferred Brian Cox. Another incredible one along the lines of life is How to Grow a Planet with Iain Stewart

[–]-Kid-A- 96 points97 points  (16 children)

Cox is great. He can just be filmed sitting on a rock by a lake explaining quite complex science in an east-to-understand way without all the fancy CGI and shit.

[–]cantCommitToAHobby 42 points43 points  (6 children)

He can also be filmed bewildered on a stage with Noel Fielding dressed as a boatswain.

[–]RazerBladesInFood 54 points55 points  (6 children)

Cosmos is meant to be spoonfed. It's trying to educate people on science who normally have zero to extremely low levels of science literacy. Like children and the shockingly large and growing number of adults in the US. That doesn't mean anyone cant enjoy it for what it is.

[–]semogen 14 points15 points  (3 children)

I know - I never mentioned otherwise! It all depends on your level of interest / knowledge in the subject. Just putting it out there for the people who want a more in depth programme than Cosmos, or maybe those that have seen it and are curious to learn more

[–]RazerBladesInFood 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I wasn't trying to be contrary to what you were saying more adding to it. But reading my comment I can see how it came off that way.

[–]Deetoria 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I know a lot about the subject matter. What I learned the most from Cosmos was the people behind the knowledge we have.

[–]OpheliaBalsaq 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I enjoy Cox far more than Tyson as a presenter. Like Sagan, I find that he exudes a childlike sense of awe and wonder that really makes me want to listen, whereas Tyson sounds like a lecturer most of the time; he's informative but a little dull.

Preemptive edit: I'm aware of the first few words but I'll leave it to give some of you a giggle.

[–]ThtDAmbWhiteGuy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

How to grow a planet literally changed my view on the world. Can't recommend that one enough. Visually amazing and very informative.

[–]El_Impresionante 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If there ever was a Sagan successor, it was Brian Cox. That much I've known since his first TED Talk.

[–]cantCommitToAHobby 16 points17 points  (4 children)

Prof Jim Al-Khalili's work is a touch less pop-science, but he is still a wonderful explainer.

[–]whyUsayDat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Light and Dark. Everything and Nothing... His documentaries are my favourite. Even more than Brian Cox.

[–]citro-naut 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Brian Cox also has a great podcast called The Infinite Monkey Cage. I definitely recommend checking it out!

[–]RazerBladesInFood 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah Brian Cox is awesome too. He gave one of the best explanations/demonstrations I've ever seen for visualizing how time can be relative which is a difficult concept for a lot of people to grasp. I always use it when trying to explain it to people now.

[–]AddressOK 18 points19 points  (1 child)

I wish Euro Sagan was hosting Cosmos - I prefer his style over NDT.

[–]AnEpiphanyTooLate 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Everyone does but this is the next best thing.

[–]Fizrock 333 points334 points  (47 children)

[–]itty53 184 points185 points  (44 children)

"Possible worlds" sounds extremely speculative. Like that entire episode of The Universe based around a dude hypothesizing alien biology.

[–]whitecompass 93 points94 points  (7 children)

We know quite a bit about exoplanets now. Not sure how they make a whole season out of that. But I’m interested in seeing what they do with it.

[–]pooponagoose 46 points47 points  (11 children)

We still don't even understand how life got started here. We have various theories and tests such as The Miller-Urey Experiment where some chemicals, water, and electricity made the water change color and amino acids were found. But we still don't know what causes the initial spark of life.

Also we only know life on our planet. There could be other life forms based on completely different chemical makeups. Science works via hypothesizing and failures. If no one ever hypothesized we'd never advance. Someone had to hypothesize that those blinking dots in the sky were other suns, etc...

[–]Aristarch0s 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Didn't Sagan also use radiation to generate amino acids under certain conditions? Sorry I'm on mobile and I don't know if that's the experiment to which you are referring.

[–]The_Music 18 points19 points  (7 children)

It seems pretty clear now that even with a sample size of 1, life (not necessarily intelligent life) should be fairly common in the universe. Recent discoveries in the fossil record show that life appeared on Earth relatively quickly after the crust solidified. If all it takes is liquid water and it's associated temperatures to get things started... well there are surely enough stars in the galaxy, let alone the universe, for it to have happened successfully more than once.

[–]under______score 13 points14 points  (5 children)

this is my understanding of it too, if it happened once, it probably has happened atleast one other time. and considering how many plants there are in the universe, i would say it probably could have happened millions of times by now

[–]_Parzival 10 points11 points  (3 children)

I watch the universe every night to sleep, I've done it for like 10 straight years. I fucking love that show, I wish they'd make more.

But that episode is weird. So is the episode on what space warfare might be like.

[–]itty53 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Same here, drives my wife nuts. She'd prefer forensic files. Bleh.

[–]_Parzival 3 points4 points  (1 child)

She trying to get anxious right before bed cuz that sounds like a good way to get anxious right before bed lol

[–]itty53 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wonders why she has nightmares.

[–]MidrangeKiller 329 points330 points  (76 children)

Bro tip! If you are into these kind of programs I highly recommend BBC's "Wonders Of The Universe (2011)".

Anyone know more sciency/space programs? My problem with Neil in Cosmos is I feel like he adresses me like a child, but I don't want to be hit with mathmatical equations either. Something in between.

[–]lurkishdelight 144 points145 points  (9 children)

PBS Spacetime on YouTube

[–]freak-000 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I love PBS because they are not afraid of going full technical and dont treat their audience like children like every other science serie does. They deserve to go on tv and earn some real money

[–]GandalfTheEnt 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Great series.

I used it extensively for a second year college presentation I did on black holes.

[–]BoggyTheFroggy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of math there though. But even though I understand little of it, I enjoy most episodes. Their visualizations of abstract concepts are amazing.

[–]pedrosouter 52 points53 points  (13 children)

You watched all the "wonders of" series from Brian Cox? There's solar system and life as well as universe. All good shows, universe was the best but I'd recommend them all

[–]PerfectiveVerbTense 24 points25 points  (5 children)

Any fans of Brian Cox might also enjoy the commentary he did on the Sunshine DVD. He discusses the good and bad science in the movie. I really enjoyed it.

[–]Meowzahar 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Do these stream online from Netflix or Hulu? I think Brian Cox is pretty great and would watch these.

[–]YsoL8 8 points9 points  (2 children)

The moon, the stars... isn't it all wonderful?

[–]VALIS666 24 points25 points  (0 children)

PBS Spacetime is incredible.

It's not one of those many, awful "we're going to make science quirky and cute" youtube channels, but it also explains the material without going too deep into math. I wouldn't call the channel beginner level as the terms and information comes fast and without explaining what every single thing means, but anyone with an interest in this material and the patience to look up terms and concepts should be able to keep up easily.

It also avoids the other thing I hate about some science and nature documentaries, which is spending half the running time not giving you any information at all but just trying to give you movie-quality images.

[–]Seanspeed 54 points55 points  (5 children)

Anyone know more sciency/space programs?

It's not a TV program but Crash Course in Astronomy on Youtube is a fantastic little(46-part) series. The host is amazing and the show doesnt shy away from more difficult concepts for the sake of accessibility(like Cosmos). As a 'Crash Course', the episodes aren't long, but they pack in a surprisingly meaty amount of interesting info each episode and it's all very well and enthusiastically explained. Presentation is quality too, though it's not big swooping cinematics and whatnot.

Fun way to burn 20-30 minutes or to binge for a few hours. Really recommend this one.

[–]gingasaurusrexx 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Netflix has "The Farthest" about the voyager missions. So good, so inspiring.

[–]Zack_Is_Great 12 points13 points  (2 children)

If you haven't watched Sagan's Cosmos yet I would recommend that

[–]Solarkis 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Also check out "Strip the Cosmos". Nice little series I've been watching lately.

[–]geebee13 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Check out BBC’s “The Beginning and the End of the Universe” (2016). I believe it’s now on Netflix too.

[–]mandy009 4 points5 points  (2 children)

The Inexplicable Universe (The Great Courses) he lectures you about outstanding mysteries being researched in physics. Like a freshman seminar survey course.

[–]SwoleMedic1 86 points87 points  (10 children)

Can't wait, hoping for some cool stuff, especially after the data of the black hole at the center of our galaxy comes back

[–]honestMagicfan 154 points155 points  (11 children)

If you want to watch a Cosmos-like series that goes even more in-depth into complex topics such as string theory and time, watch Through the Wormhole on Science Channel.

And guess what makes it even better? It's narrated by Morgan Freeman

[–]quimicita 48 points49 points  (3 children)

For real? I thought that series was crap right when it came out--it must be like 10 years old by now.

Looks like it has lots of seasons. Did it really get better?

[–]m1000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No it got way way worse. I think the 1st season was good, but yeah, as more seasons got made, science got replaced by religion and philosophy bs. I stopped watching after season 3 I think

[–]igbad 14 points15 points  (1 child)

yea that's a hard no from me. there's too much conjecture and daydreaming. it's good entertainment but not much in the way of hard facts.

[–]Barneyk 25 points26 points  (1 child)

I really didn't like that show. It was a lot of highly speculative borderline pseudoscience mixed in with a philosophical perspective on a lot of issues but presented as a scientific one.

I didn't watch that many episodes before I simply couldn't stand it anymore and it isn't all as bad as I make it out to be but the tone of the show just rubbed me the wrong way. Really didn't like it at all.

Just a warning to anyone that might otherwise get to excited.

PBS spacetime is a great YouTube channel i would recommend instead.

[–]kungpowgoat 120 points121 points  (18 children)

I really like the show but sometimes I find it a little difficult to take it serious when the voice animations for the cartoons come up. I swear you can hear Stewie Griffin on some of them especially since it's obvious that Seth McFarlane does some of them.

[–]ActualBreck 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Like when CIA director Avery Bullock was teaching a kid about the footprints of black holes we can’t see?

[–]reekthegoat 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I actually found them to be one of my favorite parts of the show

[–]PhreakOfTime 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Did you miss when Patrick Stewart was narrating a character?

The voice sounded familiar but the face it was matched with was throwing me off. It took a few times of rewatching that segment and then it finally clicked who it was.

[–]Randyh524 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not a fan of NDT. I like Seth MacFarlane but not so much the animations. Would be cool if he would do live performances with other popular actors instead of the cartoons. NDT is unbearable in my opinion. I can't take the guy seriously because of how arrogant and pompous he sounds. Like others in this thread I'm more of a fan of Cox but I would still rather have a fresher face host the show. If Bob Ross and Mr Rodgers had a baby together I would want him to host the show. Let's learn about our happy little space neighborhood called the milky way.

[–]ThisIsYourThing 34 points35 points  (9 children)

For the love of God! Please! Please! Let us watch the original run with Carl Sagan again. Netflix, Amazon, someone, let us stream Sagan. He speaks with an elegance and dignity and compassion for the world and our species in a way that Neil DeGrasse Tyson is simply incapable.

This is great news. I'm very excited to hear this information. Sagan.

[–]datduce 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Twitch has a channel that continuously streams original cosmos episodes.

[–]CriticalTinkerer 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I ended up just buying the Sagan series. Very good $80 spent. Watch it with my kids. Tyson’s show is good, but it is almost entirely focused on animated graphics and special effects, its text is simplistic, and it does not earn the name Cosmos.

[–]Alyeskas_ghost 289 points290 points  (18 children)

FUCK YESSS!!!! This is the best news I’ve heard all week!

INTERNET HIGH FIVES FOR EVERYONE!! 🤚🤚🤚

[–]dejacle 63 points64 points  (4 children)

I ran the numbers and it appears as though you've offered everyone internet high fifteens. We better check inventory to make sure there is enough to go around.

[–]SlowCrates 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I will die a happy man if, at the very end of the series, he says, "People don't think space be like it is, but it do."

[–]moom 60 points61 points  (1 child)

<ndgt>Actually, "returning" would mean I previously turned somewhere.</ndgt>

[–]TheViolentBlue 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If they're going to do the animated shorts again, I hope they get a new team to do them. I did not like the design style at all...

[–]Exodus5000 13 points14 points  (3 children)

For anyone who liked Neil Tyson's Cosmos, you will be enamored by Carl Sagan's 'Personal Voyage'.

[–]mikeblas 247 points248 points  (83 children)

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I'm pretty sick of NDGT. I saw one of his live performance lectures, and he was condescending and mean, particularly during the audience question session.

[–]Atanar 60 points61 points  (0 children)

This is probably an unpopular opinion

Well, it's not. The circlejerk on /r/iamverysmart over NDGT has been going on for years.

[–]Barneyk 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I really like him sometimes. But I tried watching a clip about an interesting topic on his podcast and I just couldn't stand him interrupting all the time and going off into whatever. I think he has gotten much worse in that way lately and I had to turn it off.

I think he works a lot better with a script so I am looking forward to this.

[–]Aggrojaggers 146 points147 points  (12 children)

It's becoming a more popular opinion.

Carl Sagan was great because he cared about the education just as much as he did the science.

NDGT cares about his celebrity status and the science. He may care a bit about education, but not nearly enough..

[–]blue-pilgrim 58 points59 points  (7 children)

I don't even think he cares all that much about science. Mind you, he loves being smart, but it seems he only likes being smart so he can smugly remind everyone that he is.

[–]Aggrojaggers 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I can't imagine he'd put that much work in to the field if he didn't enjoy science. I'll give him credit where it's due.

[–]Doctor_Sigmund_Freud 109 points110 points  (7 children)

I think he's cringy and full of himself.

[–]Clawedd 50 points51 points  (5 children)

NDT reminds me of Dr. Oz. A surgeon who is one of the best in the world in heart surgery and went to ivy league schools but then goes outside of topics he knows little about and talks as if expert. NDT may be expert astrophysicist but then he talks about politics, history (search him in /r/badhistory), philosophy, and other science branches. Dr. Oz talks about health which makes him worse when he is incorrect but NDT is pretty bad as well.

[–]floate_ 21 points22 points  (1 child)

On Reddit, backlashes frequently supplant the most popular opinions (especially in the comments), so Tyson is loathed by many here.

However, I did actually expect more hate in the comments for this post.

[–]Metrorepublica 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Man " Neil de Grass Tyson " is so annoying....he is nothing like Carl Sagan...can't get across the magic and wonder and just sounds pompous....could they not have gotten the physicist guy with the long hair and the glasses..(L.Krauss )...he seems like a good guy and no l am not talking about the white hired Japanese guy either " Kico " he is everywhere...he needs to take a break from tv.

[–]Pleiadian 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I enjoyed the last series but I think they should find a different style of animation for the historical parts or do live action like the original. I found the comic book style digital drawing slightly boring to watch but the CG space parts were great.

[–]BEBaker8 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Too bad. Never been impressed with NDT’s hosting of the series. But, Brian Cox would have been more “Sagan-esque”with a British accent.

[–]captak 21 points22 points  (2 children)

I didn't like cosmos 1 even though I wanted it to be the definitive TV show about our universe for my generation. I didn't like it because too many of the historical accounts/science was overtly viewed through not a scientific lense of objectivity, but Tyson's own personal beliefs. For example, a reoccurring theme of the show was how the Catholic Church silenced scientist for their scientific work but in reality, this wasn't the whole truth. The scientists of that time were persecuted for their public criticism of the church, something that's never mentioned. He also said how the most abundant element in the universe is Hydrogen (true) but then said that's also the most abundant element on Earth and the human body which is false. Actually got that question wrong in a cosmology class in college because of the show. All this helps to propagate Tyson's belief, not actual facts, and I can't help but think season 2 will be more of the same. Let's stop hero worshipping Neil De Grass Tyson. There are plenty of other scientists around who do much better work.

[–]Drakthul 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Let me preface by saying that I didn't like the show either - but I doubt any of what Tyson said was his own opinion. He didn't write it, and it was clearly heavily scripted.

[–]BeatToQuarters444 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm a little jaded from hearing NDT is rude to fans.. Am I the only one?

[–]huntersnipern 68 points69 points  (5 children)

r/iamverysmart is gonna be hosting cosmos again?

[–]halfwaycove 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Did you know that in a mirror you can only kiss yourself on the lips?

[–]andygarciascuzin 14 points15 points  (4 children)

meh. wasn't really blown away by NDT in Cosmos. Didn't even finish the first season. Sagan is the one and only

[–]crimsonc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I managed two episodes I think, realised I wasn't the target audience (I'm not a child and do know some science), and found him annoying.

[–]DJButtRape 1423 points1424 points  (545 children)

I wish they would have ditched ndt for someone less condescending

[–]oogyman 854 points855 points  (161 children)

The show is meant to be accessible to all audiences so he has to dumb stuff down so that everyone can understand. I think this is the most important partof the show. I can watch it with almost anyone and we can learn together no matter how indepth our science backgrounds and understanding are.

[–]kurtu5 91 points92 points  (9 children)

Sagan's Cosmos was accessible. I don't mean he dumbed stuff down so you could understand it, I mean he pointed at wonderful things, said "we don't understand this, but look at it!"

[–]hybbprqag 32 points33 points  (8 children)

According to my Dad, Sagan comes off as more of an academic/intellectual, while NDT feels relatable. I think for the average person, NDT's persona is more inviting, though I personally loved Sagan's style.

[–]billbixbyakahulk 614 points615 points  (139 children)

You can simplify without being condescending. That's what NDT does. But as a big fan, I agree with the previous poster. He was smug and condescending as hell. And it was very forced inspiration. He's just not Carl Sagan and shouldn't have tried to be.

NDT did an awesome series of videos called "My Favorite Universe" that I enjoyed a lot more.

[–]ncaffrey 613 points614 points  (112 children)

he's smug and condescending as hell in general, but on the show he was neither and he did a great job in season 1. if he does the same job in season 2 i'll be happy.

[–]TPrimeTommy 306 points307 points  (67 children)

I agree, his personality online and elsewhere is pretty condescending, but I didn't sense that in Cosmos.

[–]NoKidsDadJokesAnyway 79 points80 points  (66 children)

I have never heard him sound smug or condescending. Can you link to an example?

[–]delano 56 points57 points  (5 children)

Here's a clip from PBS Space Time where he interrupts Matt O'Dowd multiple times and shushes him with his hand in his face.

[–]skippythemoonrock 135 points136 points  (30 children)

Pretty much anything on his Twitter.

[–]pantsunami 411 points412 points  (69 children)

Meh, people only say this cause of his dumb twitter account. I’ve seen him in interviews and hosting some talks and he’s nowhere near as bad as reddit makes him out to be. At the end of the day, he’s a smart guy with a contagious enthusiasm for science, and I liked him as host for the first season, I’ll probably like him again for the second.

[–]tenhou 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I grew less fond him not because of his Twitter, but because of his podcast. He would constantly talk over guests. I know it's his show, but why invite guests if you're going to finish every one of your guests sentences for them?

[–]slakmehl 170 points171 points  (21 children)

People enjoy hating things, it let's them look down on people for liking them. The irony in this case of course is they hate Tyson for being condescending. Same thing happened to Sagan in his day.

[–]Onlyastronaut 71 points72 points  (8 children)

Not even hating him as a person but all of a sudden his issue is in the show?? When it's obvious he never once acted like that on cosmos. Fucking so tired of these idiots that bandwagon hate for people for dumb ass reasons.

[–]COIVIEDY 30 points31 points  (3 children)

It’s the problem with the voting system on Reddit. If enough people decide something, most users will accept it as fact without ever really wondering why.

[–]diamond 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Meh, people only say this cause of his dumb twitter account. I’ve seen him in interviews and hosting some talks and he’s nowhere near as bad as reddit makes him out to be.

I agree; I really don't understand some of the shit people say about him here. It almost feels like they're talking about a completely different person. I know some of his tweets are kind of dumb, but every time time I've seen him in an interview or a speech, he's been engaging, lively, and fun.

[–]Notarapist1234 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I think the reason Reddit generally doesn't like him is because of a pretty popular post by a college student who raised a ridiculous amount of money to have NDT speak at his school and it turned out to be a really bad experience. I can't link it right now because I'm on mobile but it's pretty easy to find.

[–]khandaseed 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I’m sick of Reddit making grand judgements off of 140 character snap statements. He has so much more body of work that is very accessible if you want to make a more accurate judgement.

[–]kynes_piece 20 points21 points  (6 children)

He's one of reddit's exes. Keanu Reeves is next.

[–]BeHereNow91 61 points62 points  (1 child)

I never minded him in Cosmos, though. I think he does the show and his predecessor justice.

[–]guitarburst05 194 points195 points  (30 children)

I'll go against the grain here and disagree with the reddit hivemind. Fuck this.

I love NDT, and sometimes he comes across as /r/iamverysmart marterial, but he's a great entertainer, he has a wonderful voice, and he's a spectacular speaker.

He did a fantastic job in the first season explaining concepts and was a perfect choice as the narrator. I can't wait to watch the second season.

[–]skeetsauce 46 points47 points  (10 children)

Yeah he comes across as /r/iamverysmart but people forget that he actually pretty smart.

[–]poochyenarulez 28 points29 points  (4 children)

It is so stupid because he actually is smart. That sub should just be for people pretending to be smart.

[–]xKazimirx 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Being smart in one field doesn't make you smart in every field. When he makes claims like "sex is never painful" or that a helicopter with a dead engine is as good as a brick in the air, it only goes to show that he's just as ignorant as anyone else when it comes to knowledge outside the realm of astrophysics.

[–]rmphys 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Between the anti-football tweet and not knowing about sex, it seems he really does like to hit the classic nerd tropes.

[–]jb2386 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Brian Cox would be the bomb.

[–]eligibleram34 4 points5 points  (1 child)

He wasn't condescending on Cosmos at all.

[–]bmanCO 35 points36 points  (1 child)

NDT is an astrophysicist who's hosted a ton of science shows in the past, which makes him fully qualified to host Cosmos. I couldn't care less about his twitter bullshit if he's a good science educator, which he generally is.

[–]poochyenarulez 88 points89 points  (64 children)

less condescending

i never understood why people felt that way about him.

[–]slakmehl 86 points87 points  (22 children)

Sagan got exactly the same treatment in his day. People straight up detested him, including (perhaps especially) fellow scientists. Tyson will likely endure the same path.

You can walk the public communicator of science vs. condescending elitist tightrope for a while, but eventually you run out of your best bits and people start to hate you.

[–]HopDavid 10 points11 points  (3 children)

The first season of Cosmos with Neil deGrasse Tyson was aired the first half of 2014.

In September of 2014 Tyson was busted fabricating Bush's 9-11 speech.

After that his material came under more scrutiny.

His stuff on the Islamic Golden Age also turned out to be be fiction.

He said some really dumb stuff when it comes to the cardinality of infinite sets.

He embarrassed his supporters with some bad biology.

And has made a lot of other wrong claims.

In the last four years Tyson's credibility has taken some serious hits. This 2nd season of the new Cosmos will give him even more notoriety. I predict increased scrutiny will not be kind to Tyson.

[–]The_Celtic_Chemist 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I'm surprised this wasn't implied after season 1. Took them long enough.

[–]TJPrime_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Tbh, I wasn't expecting it. I thought a new season would be nice, but didn't expect one at all, at least with Neil.

My reasoning for this is the final shot of the first season, you see the pilots seat in the ship of the imagination empty, with calming music over the top. I had assumed that it was subtext to say "you're in control of the ship of imagination now."

[–]jelatinman 10 points11 points  (0 children)

r/iamverysmart is getting hard just reading this.