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Fourth Fappening Hacker Caught by the FBI

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611 points · 8 months ago

Everyone in this thread seems to think the entire FBI made up of two guys who can only investigate one thing at a time...

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337 points · 8 months ago

Mulder and Sculley.

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It’s at least three. F,B, and I.

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And I ain't doing it.

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nicholas cage from The Rock

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Special Agent Dale Cooper.

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3 points · 8 months ago

I like pie.

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and coffee. Black as midnight on a moonless night.

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"Dianne, I've been mentioned in another Reddit thread..."

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Not judging by the new episodes. Yikes.

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Thanks for reminding me of the new episodes! :)

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Errr, I'd hold off on thanking anyone until you watch them. lol

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Sculler and Muldy

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*Mueller and Sculley

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Damnit Scully why wont you believe?!

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+ smoking man.

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0mmully and Scullyl

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Yeah for real there are like 40k fbi agents working cases all over the nation. Of course they're looking for revenge porn intrusion cases

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They've got at least 1000 actively looking at my porn history and being disappointed in me.

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"god damnit what's with this guy and hippos fucking, come on I wanna see something new for once"

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sweats profusely

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"He's back to sweat-licking. Ugh, those two don't go together. Finally, we got him on something. He's stealing winrar. Let's get him booked so we can move on."

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"great. I heard about this one guy that only uses ball sweat for lube can we watch him next?"

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Holden ford and bill tench

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Even the FBI has a PR department, so it probably is getting more attention than it would if it was a bunch of plebs who got hacked.

There is always more pressure to crack high profile cases because it makes the agency look good.

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It's high profile. Not only does it show the public the FBI is doing it's job, it also shows phishers that the FBI will find you.

level 3

There's an entire cult out there dedicated to hating women. This cult calls themselves Redpillers. So 'fappening' hurts women so it's okay it's happened. To the eyes of the cult.

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that's what the redpill thing is? shit

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http://a.trp.red/terms

Check out their glossary of terms and see for yourself.

Basically these people view relationships as a struggle for power dominance between the man and the woman.

They believe that women seek out dominant men who they refer to as Alphas.

It's a seriously disturbing and unhealthy way to look at relationships

There's also some overlap between red pill and incels, although I'm pretty sure that red pillers would deny that because being incel isn't Alpha

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1 point · 8 months ago

Cause I got to see jlaw's butthole.

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pics or it didn't happen

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The same thing happens every time a video game company makes a change. “Oh you spend your time on this!!!” You know they have multiple teams, right!? They can do multiple things at the same time. People are dumb.

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7 points · 8 months ago

Especially when there are more technically skilled employees and less technically skilled employees. The people making the seasonal loot crate skins and those making the servers not run like shit are probably not the same people.

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Yup. Exactly. Drives me crazy. i feel like no one has ever worked for a company before.

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Yo video game fans are the fucking worst. These dudes took a Mathlab course in 2007 and think they can accurately guess about the exact managerial and development layout of whatever dev studio they are pissed about.

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4 points · 8 months ago

Well, TBF they seem to have dropped on these guys like a ton of bricks.

All other crime under the FBI's jurisdiction? Not so much.

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Between that, and the guys doing illegal searches, and the tactical teams murdering innocent people, shooting women with babies, and burning children to death, the FBI is pretty busy.

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442 points · 8 months ago

I find it odd that one thing Reddit supports the most is online security, but there are several people who are okay with the mass hacking of several celebrities personal phones with private photos being released all over the internet because they got to masterbait to them. I'm sure the same people would be against their browser history being known to public though.

Oh and the FBI is made up of more than one person. They're capable of investigating many things at once.

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246 points · 8 months ago

I think it's a combination of people wanting taboo porn and an underlying hatred of the rich/famous.

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55 points · 8 months ago

aww. the old angry jerk. classic.

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Jerk being the operative word

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Also one of Donald Trumps nicknames.

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7 points · 8 months ago

Isn't it shithole now? Or is that just when referring to his mouth.

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Good one!

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Mostly his properties

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0 points · 8 months ago

I try and keep current you know.

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Redditor: Take that masturbates furiously

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And also a general, "Look at this dumb slut putting her pictures out there. If they don't want this to happen they should have better security. I would neeeeeeever fall for that."

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I would because I am a dumb slut. Luckily, for your sake and mine, I am not famous.

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masterbait

I think you mean masturbate. Masterbait is the best kind of bait to use when angling.

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And mass debate is what we're currently doing in this thread.

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9 points · 8 months ago · edited 8 months ago

And watching two master debaters at work is a sight to behold.

EDIT - I hate autocorrect.

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Plus if you have enough experience debating then you become a master debator.

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and mass rebate is what Apple does when we find out they've bee slowing down phones.

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It's pretty basic, Invasion of Privacy is emphasized in sex crimes regardless of method or intent. Also, totally get not owning up to the child porn. That shit is 5 - 10 years... That's just in New Jersey.

At the federal level, this dude could get slammed with wire fraud which could get 20 years in prison and up to $1 million in fines. A federal investigation might not tie him to all of this, because they know there are more people involved, but I have zero doubt they'll use him to make an example. If there was a multi person operation, it'd be conspiracy and they'd go away for a long long time. My theory has always been that federal computer crimes are charged so heavily because they A) don't fully understand how to combat computers and B) because the potential damage done is so high.

Federal court motions process
How Federal Subpoenas Work

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9 points · 8 months ago

Boobies. The answer here is boobies.

and feeling they have a right to access women's bodies when they want

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There are also a higher number of people than usual trying to discredit the FBI these days.

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These days?

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Yeah. Among the leadership of both parties there are people saying the FBI fucked with investigations into Trump.

Before it wss more of a fringe thing with more people just distrusting the FBI. Ruby Ridge and whatnot.

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People celebrate doxxing on this site to an uncomfortable degree, especially when it comes to politics. That practice should be illegal, it's always done to harm another person.

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Yeah some folks like porn more than security, shocker

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My browser is like everyone elses filled with porn

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Although I agree with the paradoxical views. IIRC, they didn't hack the phones. They exploited the iCloud and/or easy to guess passwords.

I think the issue is that society seems to think celebrities don't have rights to privacy, as the act of becoming famous seems to sign that away (not something I agree with). How else do shows like TMZ or the countless celeb-gossip mags/sites exist? By invading their privacy. If there was no audience, there'd be no paparazzi climbing trees.

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I don't think anyone is 'okay' with this kind of invasion of privacy; Some just wish they lived in a country where the vulnerable and the poor are helped disproportionately more than the famous and wealthy, and tend to over-react when they see the opposite being true.

Its also when people notice the 'corporate' double standard: having Microsoft and Apple etc invade our privacy any time they want and no one gives a shit; but when a hacker violates those same privacies he ends up in jail.

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Important part. The people victimized in this incident were women, thus they are evil in the eyes of the Redpill Cult that infests reddit.

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I see your point but nude photos leaked and internet history are two different things. Every body is naked under their clothes, seeing the naked body doesnt cause the same level of info about yourself that your browser history does. I have had my nude photos sent by an ex without my consent, to people i never intended them for, most of my grad class had seen them, and i can honestly i would rather have that happen again, even if its with a bigger group of people, than for someone to show them my browser history. Everybody knows i have a penis, theyve just seen it now, but its not suprising to anyone that i have one nor will it affect my relationship with people, or atleast it will only do so a small amount. But some of the things of searched very well could destroy friendships. I get nudes being leaked is embarrasing, ive gone through it.myself, but its not on the same scale as people knowing what type of porn is your guilty pleasure or all those random fuckd up questions you can only ask the internet cause everyone else would change their behavior around you.

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Why can't the FBI investigate the NSA for spying on all of us? Oh right, "same team"

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Well the NSA is only spying on non-citizens, therefore not in the purview of the FBI /s

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I find it odd that people are more concerned about random redditors rather than the power structures who basically have full access to zero day exploits and blackmailable information. If institutional power structures have access to this information it's only obvious that hackers can gain access

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Hey. You. Turn back now. These comments are terrible.

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I'm here specifically for the insane and shitty comments.

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It's adventure for those who never wonder outside.

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Too true with this nasty stretch of weather in my locale lol

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i'm here to make the insane and shitty comments. yw

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^ This is the worst copy&paste on Reddit.

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But this is only a tribute

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5 points · 8 months ago

^ This is the worst copy&paste on Reddit.

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14 points · 8 months ago

.tiddeR no etsap&ypoc tsrow eht si sihT ^

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I will never understand this weird ass mentality that people deserve less or no justice because they’re famous. Yeah not everyone gets their justice, but some do. There is no reason to deny a celeb it just because they’re well known or successful.

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I think it's the inconsistency. For instance:

  • the famous/wealthy more often get justice for themselves while not being punished for breaking the law

  • this is compared to average people who often don't get justices for themselves while being punished for breaking the law

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If we're really serious about holding the wealthy accountable, maybe we should tax them more...

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That's a separate topic.

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1 point · 8 months ago · edited 8 months ago

Yeah, okay. I'll just call up my wealthy representative and tell him that he needs to go after the people who funded his last six campaigns. Edit: and if he doesn't do it, I'll cast a vote in my (heavily) gerrymandered district and kick his ass right out of office.

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1 point · 8 months ago

Now if only Reddit could apply that same logic to rich people.

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Not fame, per se.

They're WOMEN.

This means Reddit's red pill cult will go after them.

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-10 points · 8 months ago(17 children)
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dude you can work your ass off at both and unless you know the right person or were in the right place at the right time it doesnt matter

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3 points · 8 months ago

Yes, that is true. That's the luck factor. BUT if you meet the right person at the right time and you ARENT a hard worker, you are likely not going to take advantage of that opportunity. Look at somebody like jamarcus Russel. He relied mostly on the luck factor (physical gifts) and didn't put in any of the hard work factor. And look at him now. Success is earned my dude, even though many hard working people may not reach those levels. That's just the breaks. Don't matter who you meet or when, though, if you're lazy you're lazy.

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They say luck is where preparation and opportunity meet.

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Maybe not “luck” for Taylor Swift, but having rich-as-shit parents who can buy record labels to get you signed, certainly helps.

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-1 points · 8 months ago

True. It definitely puts you ahead of others, just like being born a physical freak makes u more likely to make it to the NFL. But there's A LOT of rich ass good-looking chicks trying to make it in the biz that don't. See: Friday (just like there's a lot of physical freaks that don't make it to the NFL)

The common denominator is hard work (with of course some luck sprinkled in. Right time right place stuff. But being in the right place doesn't matter if you don't have the work ethic to exploit the opportunity.). Even dare I say Donald Trump must have worked hard at some point in his life.

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What is your fucking point? So few people are given the type of luck that Taylor Swift was given that your point about hard work is pretty much irrelevant considering how rare people like Taylor Swift actually are.

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don't lump Taylor Swift in with NFL players. those guys work way harder for much less

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To be fair, they work for 8 weeks a year with a training camp before.

The rest of the time they also train, but so do lots of non athletes.

I'm not a fan of pop, but Taylor Swift has written a large portion of her own music and tours, "works", for more of the year.

She's also unlikely to have a cauliflower for a brain later.

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Can someone explain how he was caught? What kind of forensics would they use? Some deep type of packet analysis? What was to stop him from using multiple VPNs, and a high powered antenna for someone else's Wi-Fi or a internet cafe?

Always want to know how they are caught.

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6 points · 8 months ago

I do forensics for law enforcement (not FBI though). Half the time the suspect just makes stupid mistakes, not covering their tracks well enough on exfil, and leaves enough for us to find out an IP, or a Tor exit node that the government runs, or similar.

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The gov owning an exit node shouldn’t be enough to figure out the original IP

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2 points · 8 months ago

Happens at least once or twice a year for us. We send that on up to different agencies sometimes, and they usually have something they can go on if the exit node was compromised.

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That’s fascinating. I mean, shouldn’t the other 2 hops in the network prevent that? I thought it was designed so you’d need to own the entire chain to unmask someone.

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3 points · 8 months ago

On US government-run (or government-compromised) Tor exit nodes, much of the traffic is sniffed. Often, there's a vulnerability in whatever application a person is using to pass data through the node at a given time - whether it's the Tor browser itself, an outdated FTP client, etc. Using those vulns, agencies much higher up than us can reference traffic sniffed across a given time frame and get something back, whether that's an IP address, a chunk of unencrypted data, what-have-you. Sometimes we get nothing at all (if the person knew what they were doing), and sometimes we get a bunch, all depends on the circumstances.

That's why the Tor browser itself tries to encourage users very firmly to not mess around with the browser's settings and never use an outdated version - all in an effort to minimize bits of information being fed through the pipe that might identify the user, whether that be because of the user's stupidity or a vulnerability in the browser's code.

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8 points · 8 months ago

Phishing emails was how it was done? Dang I thought it was some fancy technical crap.

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Neckbeards gonna neck.

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I've read one

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There is literally one right above and below you, and that's just a few comments.

Anyone praising this shit is no better than a peeping tom. Quit exploiting people for fucking sex you pathetic little boys.

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-5 points · 8 months ago(0 children)

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This is the sort of crime that ought to get a long sentence. He did it even though he knew it was wrong. It was not a mistake. He did not do this to feed his family, he had no excuse. People thinking about doing this sort of thing can be deterred by giving this fellow a long stay in jail.

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Long sentences as a deterrent has very quick diminshing returns. No one is thinking about committing a crime and going '10 years is okay, but 20 is way too much.' They just think they are smart enough to never get caught.

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I am sure you are right.

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FBI still hasn’t found who uploaded the photos which is interesting, per the article.

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13 points · 8 months ago

Every top comment is just complaining about all the comments support the hackers.

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The fbi is still spending time on this? Goes to show you that when you attack the wealthy it's far more important than anyone else. Why isn't the fbi also investigating other revenge porn postings??

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Why isn't the fbi also investigating other revenge porn postings??

They probably are investigating other incidents. They leave cases open for years even if no new information is coming forward. It's possible this guy was responsible for something else and they linked him.

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Most revenge porn postings are personal and I'm pretty sure they're usually handled locally (like if your ex posts your nudes why would you need the FBI?). This was a bit different and a bit more large scale.

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How does a company like vivid and celebrities significant other could make money on porn? Did the guy with Paris Hilton not make a shit ton? How did they not get in trouble without her consent.

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Revenge porn laws are fairly recent I'm pretty sure. All she could do at the time was sue, which she did.

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(like if your ex posts your nudes why would you need the FBI?)

The jurisdictional issues instantly become big enough for the FBI when the internet gets involved.

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Do you think so? Why?

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... because the internet allows crimes of this sort to transcend local and state lines instantly. If someone hacks your computer and disseminates your info on the internet, it's going to be halfway around the world before you finish reading this sentence. Local police can't manage that kind of thing.

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Well that's a bit different from what I said isn't it?

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you need the FBI for jurisdiction. Revenge porn videos/pictures are hosted on servers outside of the jurisdiction of your local law enforcement. Pornhub isn't going to remove a video because they get an email from someone claiming to be a Lt. in bumfuck county's sheriff department with no jurisdiction politely asking them to take videos down. They have no way to even verify you are who you say you are. You could be a Lt. in a podunk town's Sheriff's department or you could be the girl's brother or father who doesn't like his baby girl's video on the internet making up a story.

Unless you're a law enforcement agency who actually has jurisdiction to contact them in an official capacity, you're just spam going straight to the junk/spam folder.

Read up about some of the cases the FBI were involved in. Each I've read started at the local level. They were reported to the local authorities who then had to involve the FBI because local authorities have no jurisdiction to get anything done involving the internet, having servers remove the offending images from servers located out of state.

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The police don't issue those orders. Courts do. Do you really think pornhub ignores court orders just because the FBI isn't involved?

Sometimes they might also get cease and desist letters from a victim or a victim's lawyer. Do you also think pornhub is in the habit of ignoring those because they don't come from the FBI?

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The answer is: they are. They and all other state Attorney General offices. It's this big thing. Those they catch just don't get highlighted as much because it's not flashy to the media. If some neckbeard at a desk is loading pictures of his average looking and not well-known ex-girlfriend to the internet, do you think the media would care to cover it?

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178 points · 8 months ago

are you actually upset that theyre bringing people to justice for a major invasion of privacy lmao

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Is there evidence that there are other massive hacks that did NOT offend the wealthy that the FBI didn't pursue?

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Havent heard anything come from "the snappening" where random peoples snap chats were hacked and leaked. Those contained CP too so youd think it woulda been of more concern but idk.

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The CP factor often leads those cases to be underreported. The FBI often honeypots and traps people to catch CP offenders, and many tomes this info isn’t given out to the media to protect the victims.

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That makes sense. I know the hack only affected people using a specific snap saving app so I wonder how easy it was to link the images to the original accounts.

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But that isn't true

I don't wanna dump link after link but a quick Google would have cleared that up.

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The FBI investigates, and the Justice Department prosecutes cases of revenge porn and hacking for non-wealthy, non-famous people all of the time.

Here’s a case from last month: http://www.thenewsstar.com/story/news/crime/2017/12/01/ruston-man-gets-2-years-posting-nude-pics-woman/914720001/

The reason you don’t hear about the cases is that very few people care because no celebrities are involved so there is little national news coverage.

I must ask: What is it like going though life so oblivious and ignorant of the world around you?

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My guess is they have to set an example since they can't go after all offenders. Going after the high profile cases has the most bang for the buck effect, visibility wise

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77 points · 8 months ago · edited 8 months ago

Also, lets not pretend like this was just some normal, run of the mill revenge porn posting.

Even removing the high profile victims from the equation, it was still a massive breach targeting over 100 people distributed to millions. That's a bit different from Joe Schmoe dumping pictures of his ex on some site nobody will see. The pictures were also hacked by strangers, which adds another dimension to it that grabs FBI interest. This was a hack, not just revenge porn. They also would have stolen texts, call logs, contacts lists, calendars, etc by compromising iCloud. The hacking bit is probably a much more significant criminal concern than the revenge porn bit - a group attempted to hack hundreds of personally targeted people is a big deal even if the reason for the hacking is petty.

There's a real interest in preventing large scale targeted hacks for nudes that doesn't really apply to stopping low level petty revenge porn motivated by a personal dispute.

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-48 points · 8 months ago(19 children)
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If they wanted to make an example out of hackers in a high profile case, they'd take down every Russian hacker that interfered in the election.

Lemme know how the FBI is going to arrest hackers in Russia.

I'll wait.

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Mate, you’ll always lose an argument with an idiot.

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Like wrestling a pig in the mud. You both get muddy, but the pig enjoys it.

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-32 points · 8 months ago(0 children)

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I forgot, this was the moment Reddit went from fanboying over Jennifer Lawrence to hating her, when she got angry that her pictures were stolen from her and strewn across the internet for everyone to look at. Because how dare she tell them not to masturbate at her.

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Wait....is that really why she fell from popularity? I just assumed it had run its course - kinda like how Nic Cage love has turned into Keanu Reeves love.

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17 points · 8 months ago

Fucking neckbeards victim blaming. Everyone is all about online privacy that until celebs are hacked and nudes are leaked that they can whack off to. I'm sure you'd be all for this if it was random people.

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24 points · 8 months ago

Right because an article describing a single case the FBI is investigating implies they aren't investigating an entire class of cases.

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Maybe they are, but those don't get an article, because who cares about two random individuals? This is only getting attention from the press because celebrities and rich people were involved.

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A quick Google for FBI revenge porn backs that

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Why do you think they don't investigate other revenge porn cases? Lol

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Who says they aren't?

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Why isn't the fbi also investigating other revenge porn postings??

I just recently read about some guy getting arrested for posting his ex's nudes on a revenge porn image board. Just because it isn't making national news doesn't mean it isn't happening.

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The FBI probably wants to bring them in to find out how they cracked into peoples iClouds. The conviction is a secondary goal.

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Find out how? Did you read the article? It was phishing emails made to look like they came from Apple's security department.

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Bro... They are. They don’t have to announce to the public that they’re doing something in order for them to actually be doing it.

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It's an "investigation", so yes.

If your daughter was famous, and this happened, and you called the FBI and they laughed at you, then maybe you would understand celebs are people too, asshole.

This is LITERALLY their job ffs.

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Can we lock this thread. Holy fuck

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-28 points · 8 months ago(8 children)
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Is this old joke even funny anymore? They actually caught the hackers. Seems like everyday someone thinks they're super clever posting this one and still get upvotes as if it's um edgy or something still.

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yeah, it was funny back then because nobody outside internet people actually knew what 4chan really was. the news got it hilariously wrong pretty often.

but now everyone knows exactly what 4chan is. if they portray it negatively or act disgusted by it, they're not doing it out of amusing ignorance.

yet that tired old gem (and the thought behind it) gets trotted out anyway every time this happens.

4chan isn't cutting edge, unknown, hard to understand, or a refuge from "normies" anymore.

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7 points · 8 months ago

4Chan is only one man.

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Fourth fappening? There were multiple fappenings?

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5 points · 8 months ago

One fappening, multiple "hackers". They caught the fourth one.

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-3 points · 8 months ago

These guys gotta be asking themselves "was it worth it?"

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