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[–]CptWetPantsCaptain Moderator[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (8 children)

Dekay confirms 100% that this move is happening.

https://twitter.com/NWDeKay/status/988812869478170625

[–]TheKingToroImmortals Fan 231 points232 points  (8 children)

-stan +stan -stan

[–]_Based_God_OpTic Gaming Fan 157 points158 points  (1 child)

Except this time we snaked him. Revenge completed.

[–]CornerstoneAM 18 points19 points  (0 children)

but before he snaked optic optic snaked him

[–]DeluxeLeggiG2 Esports Fan 29 points30 points  (0 children)

They dropped him early into optic cs too so

+Stan -Stan +Stan -Stan +Stan -Stan

rollercoaster

[–]BillysnifflesAstralis Fan 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Actually, if I remember correctly. When tarik first joined he left too? +Stan - Stan +Stan - Stan +Stan - Stan

[–]OJbeforethebadstuffFaZe Clan Fan 14 points15 points  (2 children)

he'll be back

[–]borko781 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Plz no my head cant take anymore

[–]XDWetnessTeam Liquid Fan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Stanislaw scares off easily, but he’ll be back, in greater numbers as well.

[–]poempedoempoexmousesports Fan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They learned from Navi

[–]S_ParkieOpTic Gaming Fan 172 points173 points  (2 children)

The "Jugi makes heroic return" didn't last long

[–]Ulmali3DMAX Fan[S] 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Well the HLTV title was little bit off. Heroic official told it was only stand in for tonight's games

[–]S_ParkieOpTic Gaming Fan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ah ok, didnt actually read the article. Thanks for the clarification

[–]HowezyOpTic Gaming Fan 321 points322 points  (29 children)

Being an OpTic fan right now is the craziest ride of emotions that I've ever been on

[–]NonspecalFnatic Fanatic 23 points24 points  (15 children)

I mean you are allowed to just stop supporting a team under these circumstances, it's not like it is unjustifiable. If Fnatic kicked all their players and added 5 completely random players I wouldn't think twice about disabling my flair.

Have you supported OpTic since the prime days of Stanislaw? It must be rough though being a true fan before the split happened.

[–]HowezyOpTic Gaming Fan 25 points26 points  (6 children)

I've supported the OpTic organization and brand for 5+ years since I played CoD a lot when I was younger and I've followed them into every game they've entered since. CSGO, Dota, LoL, OW etc. Not as simple as packing my loyalty away and shipping it to another team/org unfortunately lol

[–]vBoredomOpTic Gaming Fan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

100% its like if i left OpTic as a fan i wouldnt know how to follow another team.

[–]readmyslipsAstralis Fan 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I've supported the OpTic organization and brand for 5+ years since I played CoD a lot when I was younger and I've followed them into every game they've entered since. CSGO, Dota, LoL, OW etc. Not as simple as packing my loyalty away and shipping it to another team/org unfortunately lol

Honest question: Why? It's just a company.

In my mind it would always be the actual team that's the deciding factor. If some organization bought the Astralis players then that would be my favorite team no questions asked. I don't get it...

Except for the awesome color scheme of optic.. They got that goin for them.

[–]GAGAgadgetSprout Fan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sometimes the org is competent and communicates clearly and consistently with the fan base. For example, G2 is a org that is constantly reaching out to fans. Even if they switch teams they would still have many followers because it’s easy to follow them and the storylines the org creates, like OpTic for OP.

[–]TheMatttress 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree with this. Seeing the CoD team situation is truly heartbreaking. Im gonna follow Formal, Crim, Seth, and Damon at this point. With this ORG going to complete shit, im gonna follow the players instead. Not like im not following hector, it's not like its his org anyways

[–]NonspecalFnatic Fanatic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah I can understand that. I can imagine how you and all other long time fans must've had quite the sour taste in your mouth when Stan left out of nowhere.

But hey, maybe support C9 a little on the side as they have Tarik and Rush ya know!

[–]apm54Natus Vincere Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or liquid with NAF!

[–]Dnarg5 Year Subreddit Veteran 4 points5 points  (6 children)

It's a bit odd to me that people support brands honestly. They can drop their entire team in a month and sign a new team in 6 months. How can anyone claim to be a fan of them after such a move? What is there to be a fan of at that point? The logo? The name?

If I supported Dignitas when it was a Danish team and they then let the entire team go and hired 5 Italians instead, I'd stop being a fan of them. Not because there's anything wrong with the team doing that but because I was a fan of the team (players) and the way they played the game, and now they've left so of course I'm not going to remain a fan of someone I may not even know. It's not like a CS:GO org is my town's local side or whatever like you may get in sports..

[–]riley5planOpTic Gaming Fan 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Most OpTic fans support multiple OpTic teams and/or content creators.

[–]Dnarg5 Year Subreddit Veteran 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Would there be anything wrong with supporting Optic in <Insert Game> and another org in <Insert Another Game> though? Surely it's the players on Optic teams that you enjoy watching, enjoy following etc. and not the org, the staff or the logo/name?

[–]Sandz_OpTic Gaming Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Theres not, but for CS I loved the ELeague S2 team. But since they split they all went separate ways so I just stuck with them.

[–]TheTurtleOneCloud9 Fan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What is there to be a fan of at that point? The logo? The name?

Yes and yes.

I'm gonna be a Cloud9 fan forever, no matter what happens with their rosters.

If they took 5 random players and put them together I would still support Cloud9.

[–]NonspecalFnatic Fanatic 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What if Ska, Auti, Tarik, Rush and FNS went to, say, Rogue and C9 created a random mediocre team. Would you cheer for Rogue or C9 if they played against each other?

It's an interesting discussion either way.

[–]TheTurtleOneCloud9 Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said, I'm fan of the org.

If Cloud9 did the move from your comment, I would be sad and pissed but I would support the org.

I'm the kind of person to support the organisation no matter what happens to it.

[–]iProbablyJustWokeUpOpTic Gaming Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

serious man its heartbreaking watching rush, Tarik, naf and mix having success and winning majors, because that should have been us :(

[–]RedLeaf7OpTic Gaming Fan 39 points40 points  (0 children)

cheers to that

[–]JasonHaze18 9 points10 points  (0 children)

When everything is looking downhill.... What a freaking good news man hope this happens the fans need this it's been a bumpy ride this season with only Dota and OWL being good

[–]MikepookOpTic Gaming Fan 29 points30 points  (5 children)

Finally some light at the end of the tunnel

[–]rxyvenOpTic Gaming Fan 14 points15 points  (2 children)

The only way now is up right?

[–]_Elder_OpTic Gaming Fan 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Pretty much.

[–]404GoodNamesNotFoundNatus Vincere Fan 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Hey vsauce, micheal here, but what is... "up"? Ofcourse its the Pixar classic we all known and cry, but what do we mean when we say the direction of upwards?

[–]Alexis_AcE 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My mood swings the past weekend as an OpTic Fan have been nothing short of paranoia for an eSports org.

[–]cani08Team Liquid Fan 3 points4 points  (1 child)

U a fan of the management team?

[–]CJayHeNinjas in Pyjamas Fan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think with an organization like Optic where their history stretches from a COD dominant era, the age range of kids to teenagers who supported Nadeshot & Hecz still support them today. COD was a little different from CS:GO because streaming wasn’t a blown up business where you chose to support players. You chose a brand and things you enjoyed content wise & Optics youtube content was far superior of any other orgs at the time.

[–]vBoredomOpTic Gaming Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Went to work thinking one thing about the team now its 100% something different.

[–]ZavehiCloud9 Fan 101 points102 points  (5 children)

The move that should have happened on day 1 of this roster.

[–]JuryOnBoard 33 points34 points  (4 children)

Definitely should have, but OpTic were adamant on having the team play and reside in NA. Hopefully it changes after this season.

[–]HiderDK 15 points16 points  (1 child)

it was already the roster they initially wanted according to rumours however the buyouts were at the time too high.

[–]CajunBAlsoConsistentNorth Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it was the roster locks that did it - Heroic prob would’t let jugi and snappi go without having time to get new players. Meanwhile OG had to get the first and best players thet could find

[–]mannyman34Team Liquid Fan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

it won't because they have to grind through premier in EU which is actually pretty hard to do.

[–]Ajp_iiiOpTic Gaming Fan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the reason. Nobody wants to play a season of premier in eu and then maybe make epl. And ecs is even harder. No org would risk that.

[–]ItsKBSSpace Soldiers Fan 85 points86 points  (23 children)

Does this mean that this will be the roster?:

Konfig CajunB Gade Jugi Snappi

Would be pretty good imo, probably second best Danish team

[–]IoanSilviuImmortals Fan 23 points24 points  (20 children)

Probably? Who's going to be better than them, apart from Astralis?

[–]ItsKBSSpace Soldiers Fan 38 points39 points  (3 children)

Any team with GOD hunden obviously

[–]MNIKnagWelcome to the Clutch 4 points5 points  (2 children)

One more Dane to alternate attax and we got ourselves the best dk team!

[–]supergrega 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Who's the other Dane in attax?

[–]MNIKnagWelcome to the Clutch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They just signed former tricked player console.

[–]poempedoempoexmousesports Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For sure second best. Heroic right now is already second best imo and I'd definitely consider k0nfig and cajunb an upgrade.

[–]NiK3_Aub4mey4ngOpTic Gaming Fan 113 points114 points  (5 children)

pls pls pls we need some good news over at OG

[–]Curious_DoergeAstralis Fan 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Possibly losing Karma and Formal. No news about their cs team will be good enough to overlook their cod team right now.

[–]misterfrosterCloud9 Fan 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I haven’t followed cod in a few years, how have they been doing? And why are karma and formal leaving?

Also, I’m surprised they’re still together to begin with. That’s a long ass time for a cod team to not change rosters.

[–]sare3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Core of crim, karma, formal and scump, during three years that they played together became greatest roster to ever play COD, they won around 60% of all tournaments and finally last year they won COD champs solidifyng their legacy. Expectations for their’s team this year were that they would win every tournament and they struggled a lot this year not winning any out of 6 tournaments, obviously with that and considering all players on OG are born winers and want to win, they are likely to split up. There are some behind the scenes reason aswell but i don’t wanna get into that.

[–]spiteJ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah cs roster changes are water compared to cod roster changes.

[–]Curious_DoergeAstralis Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Basically what sare3 said. This roster is he greatest lineup of all time and haven’t won anything in WW2. I haven’t watched a lot but I follow the players of OG on Twitter. They are just really disappointed. Crim and Karma are two of the most competitive people I’ve ever seen play comp cod or any other game imo and they hate losing so this extended losing streak does not bode well with them.

[–]MJuniorDC9Death Sentence 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Friendship with MSL TOTALLY ended. Now I'm OpTic best fan.

[–]FamilyShowwTeam Astralis Fan 23 points24 points  (1 child)

YES!!!! This is exactly the Danish lineup I wanted to see.

I really hope this will happen.

[–]PLEASE_PM_YOUR_SMILEAstralis Fan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For sure, give my boi K0nfig a good team for once. I really wanna see him excel under a guy like Snappi. This could be like when North wasn't a dumpster fire so we actually have 2 good Danish teams again.

[–]AreteCSNinjas in Pyjamas Fan 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Two talented players who can improve with more experience in Jugi and Gade, Cajunb a veteran who can be a supportive hybrid, k0nfig who can have incredible aim, and Snappi who has managed to make past Heroic lineups get upsets despite having weaker lineups than most. Really excited to see this lineup perform.

[–]FisuKalaBravo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

this lineup has potential to be tier 1, really excited to see how this goes

[–]99SwaniSK Gaming Analyst 41 points42 points  (12 children)

sick team on paper if gade can actually showcase his talent

[–]OSercaCloud9 Fan 8 points9 points  (11 children)

Gade is actually pretty insane so I believe in this lineup. Defubatelu better than north and the heroic now

[–]BJbennyCloud9 Fan 20 points21 points  (1 child)

You okay there?

[–]Worknewsacct5 Year Subreddit Veteran 17 points18 points  (0 children)

He spelled it so wrong that it's the only hit on Google for "defubatelu": https://www.google.com/search?q=defubatelu&oq=defubatelu&aqs=chrome..69i57.2705j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[–]99SwaniSK Gaming Analyst 9 points10 points  (4 children)

did you get a stroke mid sentence? monkaS

[–]OSercaCloud9 Fan 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Lmao just read what I put. I meant to say Definately

[–]99SwaniSK Gaming Analyst 8 points9 points  (0 children)

definitely* :D

now you got it broski

[–]gilly_90Flipsid3 Tactics Fan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

but that's not even a word

[–]OSercaCloud9 Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely* lol

[–]KillAllHumans1011001Quantum Bellator Fire Fan 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Defubatelu

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[–]misconstrudelOffice Veteran 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Indubitoobaboobly.

[–]KillAllHumans1011001Quantum Bellator Fire Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes

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[–]readmyslipsAstralis Fan 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Holy shit this is so good!

[–]cuddlepwinceFaZe Clan Fan 10 points11 points  (7 children)

So will they play in na or eu?

[–]Dnarg5 Year Subreddit Veteran 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It's honestly weird to me that there's no clear requirements to nationality (or "regionality") when it comes to esports. I can understand "combining" NA and SA since there's barely a scene in SA at all, but it's ridiculous to have entirely European teams playing NA, or entirely Korean SC2 teams or whatever.

It's also bad for the local scenes, as it makes it damn near impossible for NA talent to make it if orgs can just sign entire European teams. It's not like the esport scenes in the world are swimming in actual NA talent as it is, so making it even harder for the talents to break through seems stupid.

[–]gyang333FaZe Clan Fan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's no different than European athletes playing in NA leagues, or South Americans/Caribbeans playing in MLB.

[–]Dnarg5 Year Subreddit Veteran 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it is, because it's often the entire team in esports. I don't think an entirely Korean SC2 team, LoL team or whatever should be allowed to be "bought" by a NA or European org and compete in one of those regions. I think there should be a "Must have at least three players from the region they play in." rule or something like that when it comes to CS:GO so most of the team is always from the region the team plays in. I don't mind Cloud9 or whatever getting a French player for example but if the entire Cloud9 team ends up being French, I think they should have to play in EU.

[–]Nephyyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just a little bit of info, according to Chet the team will finish out the season in NA and most likely play esl pro league finals with the new roster when they qualify (if they beat dignitas they clinch tonight) and will make the move to full time EU next season. At least that’s what I was led to believe. Hope I helped

[–]super_shogunAstralis Fan 30 points31 points  (11 children)

I can't see any possible world in which this doesn't make OpTic the second best Danish team. Hopefully this pushes North to make some radical changes to their squad, there's so much talent in Denmark that it's worth taking a gamble on some younger stars.

[–]edenbhopNatus Vincere Fan 0 points1 point  (10 children)

To be honest though, there's not that much left is there? Stavn is the only really good player that comes to mind and he himself isn't proven against tier 1 teams yet.

[–]mAtteT 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Well, since heroic seems to be loosing their 2 most valuable players anyway, maybe it would be pretty easy to persuade either rubino, niko or es3tag to go to north and help them get back to the top instead of starting all over with hunden (he seems to be hinting something on twitter) and some up-and-come'er on heroic. It's been said many times before, but North should just stop trying to make Aizy work like he did in 2014 and move on.

[–]CajunBAlsoConsistentNorth Fan 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Getting someone like es3tag or an up-and-comer to replace even aizy is exactly NOT what North need at the moment. They already made that gamble with the by far most interesting player in DK who wasn’t already on astralis, north or heroic in mertz- and that really hasn’t panned off this far

[–]mAtteT 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Agreed. Es3tag would be my last choice of the 3 mentioned. But i think niko would be a great addition as a site anchor. He has after all been playing near the top level for some time now and could bring the consistent firepower that north seems to be lacking with the up and down (mostly down) performances of aizy

[–]CajunBAlsoConsistentNorth Fan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Sorry for the late reply my dude - although i like niko a lot, consistent is exactly NOT what he is in my mind. He has insane highlight plays quite often, especially as train B-site anchor, but he doesn't deliver consistently and is way too often on the lower half of the scoreboard in a team that is much worse than the level that North is aiming for

[–]mAtteT 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Np mate.
Fair point. What/who do you think could be a solution for North then? Because they're clearly aiming to become title contenders, but with the results they have been putting up so far in 2018 they seem to be pretty far away from that goal.
Also, any thoughts on Heroic's 5th? Cadian? Acilion?

[–]CajunBAlsoConsistentNorth Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i am kinda worried for this north lineup. I really only see valde and kjaerbye as good enough for the team they are aiming to become, msl could work, but that would require 4 skilled players by his side to compensate for the lack of firepower from him. aizy is simply not good enough anymore, there really cant be doubt any longer. i had high hopes for mertz but he has gotten out-awped by any half-decent awper during his north tenure. I think the hope for this team died when optic got jugi and snappi. There simply aren't anymore danish players with the needed firepower. The only chance I see, is that they get karrigan if he is kicked from faze if their results keeps being lackluster. otherwise, I think they would need to go international - it just seems so unlikely to me that they would do that, especially with the facilities they have at Parken and their danish brand in general.

In regards to heroic - probably acillion. he didnt play with imperial yesterday, so might be the most likely replacement. on the other hand, cadian is a good friend of the heroic players and is both awper and igl, which means that they could keep es3tag. torben from fragsters is also a possibility, tho he is probably too inexperienced. inzta is also free on the market, so they could try him out.

[–]super_shogunAstralis Fan 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Stavn is an outlier because he's such a great fragger, but there's more to it than that. Younger players can be molded into stars when inserted into the right role, they don't necessarily need to be the best fragger on the team. It's just a matter of finding the right player to fill the role.

[–]letsgothatway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just FYI: it's role not roll.

[–]RosettachampsG2 Esports Fan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So if gade flames out is he this next choice

[–]MIDORIFEEDVega Squadron Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would hope they'd try to poach valde if gade doesn't work out.

[–]jackec 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This team will be interesting to follow. They will be miles ahead of North and Heroic

[–]RobertZockerSprout Fan 6 points7 points  (1 child)

[–]ColourYellowSplyce Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he did truly make a heroic return I suppose

[–]PixelJakobmousesports Fan 6 points7 points  (1 child)

k0nfig and JUGi on the same team? NICE

[–]supergrega 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Add valde and they might contend with Astralis for best dk team.

[–]daniel5426 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Maelk and a full danish roster

Name a more iconic duo

[–]CajunBAlsoConsistentNorth Fan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Me and choosing the wrong flair?

[–]TheKingToroImmortals Fan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

SaveValde

[–]SaltPoweredOmnicCloud9 Fan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

OpTic fans finally have something to look forward too.

[–]Diavolo222SK Gaming Fan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Imo, this is is an insane lineup.

[–]tang0_G2 Esports Fan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How many lineups do they want before actually attending an event?

[–]rAAZkAstralis Fan 12 points13 points  (4 children)

k0NFIG - Potential Top 1 in denmark

JUGI - The best awper in denmark after device , or better idk

Cajunb - Cajunbmostconsistent

Gade - Young talent , good aim , nice player

Snappi - Better IGL than MSL atm

this lineup has potential to be tier 1,

[–]CaptWildLifeAstralis Fan 4 points5 points  (1 child)

And jugi is not better than device, how can you even "idk" that

[–]EmandiputsAVANGAR Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jugi is nuts but he's got a long way to go to be able to touch dev1ce. That's only because dev1ce is just that good though.

[–]CaptWildLifeAstralis Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

k0nfig is far from the best in denmark

[–]CajunBAlsoConsistentNorth Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn’t call Cajun most consistent, but he defo is also consistent

[–]Falkyyyy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

super happy for snappi time to show if hes really good or he has the msl problem

[–]tapomirbowlesAstralis Fan 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Wow, a fourth full danish team in the top tier 1 teams, must be some kind of record in terms of amount of players from one single country. Especially, since we are only 5 million people:-)

[–]equalizingTeam Liquid Fan 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Astralis is t1, which would the other three be?

[–]tapomirbowlesAstralis Fan 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Hmm I kinda figured both North and Heroic was tier 1 times too. So with OpTic turning danish, that would be 4.

[–]equalizingTeam Liquid Fan 1 point2 points  (2 children)

i guess it depends on what you consider tier 1, i consider tier 1 to be teams capable of winning any large tournament they play in, astralis is in that list right now, but north and heroic are laughably not.

[–]tapomirbowlesAstralis Fan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah I guess it does. I would say all in the HLTV top 30 are tier 1 teams.

[–]equalizingTeam Liquid Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

fair enough

[–]Anthony10298OpTic Gaming Fan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We back baby

[–]TremmFTWG2 Esports Fan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jugi makes Heroic Return

[–]-CrookzR-BIG Fan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

rip stanislaw and shazham

[–]FlaminFatHippoSplyce Fan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I honestly don’t know why they thought 2 American players would work, its great they are finally going full danish though

[–]IT_SkinoCloud9 Fan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

current optic roster didnt last much, isn't it?

[–]Wildcats6OpTic Gaming Fan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Oh shit, my dick out

[–]AdreNMostConsistentGambit Esports Fan 13 points14 points  (12 children)

rip rubino

leaving north biggest career mistake in cs

[–]GabeN18BIG Fan 13 points14 points  (11 children)

debatable

[–]pretty-boy-100 Thieves Fan 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Name one other.

[–]daneredTeam Astralis Fan 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Kjaerbye

[–]jonathan-the-manAstralis Fan 9 points10 points  (0 children)

ding-ding-ding

[–]BigbyDirewolfOpTic Gaming Fan 11 points12 points  (2 children)

stanislaw leaving og optic

[–]ilovecheese2Welcome to the Clutch 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I still wonder if they would have been on par with the major winning C9 line-up.

They had a lot of promise, but I feel like it happens a lot where a promising team just drops off in Majors. At least NA teams.

[–]coldzeratop1100 Thieves Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup. IBP win ESEA LAN and 2nd at Faceit LAN (the equivalent of EPL and ECS finals) then bomb out of groups of Cologne '14. IBP agree to throw online game and make the biggest scandal of CS:GO history...

C9 get 2nd at 3 of the biggest LANs that year in a row, then get 4th at another international LAN, bomb out of groups of Cologne '15. seang@res leaves and clown9 era starts...

Optic win ELEAGUE, Northern Arena, 2nd at ECS finals, and quarterfinals of EPL (where they lose to the winners, c9), bomb out of groups in Atlanta. stanislaw leaves and optic cycle through players like an accelerated NIP timeline until they disband...

C9 again, top 4 at ECS finals, 2nd at Cologne '17, bomb out of groups at PGL. Shroud and n0thing end their tenure at c9 and then a top 5 team forms in the first and only all american c9 lineup who make top4 frequently and eventually win the major, until they bomb out of groups at SLTV (got the worst 3 teams to be fair), although performing well at Katowice and cs_summit, then lose to TeamOne at WESG, the first time they had ever been truly "upset" since the roster formed, and then stewie leaves...

[–]TurtleTortugaNatus Vincere Fan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The original Fnatic Godsent shuffle

[–]AdreNMostConsistentGambit Esports Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the one where team got back together 4 months later??

[–]edenbhopNatus Vincere Fan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

NUT

[–]jp0werCloud9 Fan 4 points5 points  (6 children)

I always see these people saying how much it sucks to be a fan of a certain team (Mouz, vp, G2, ect...), But I am almost positive that we OpTic fans have it the absolute worst.

We got completely blue balled by winning eleague season 2 and then stan leaving, and It has just been a downward spiral ever since.

We had Tarik, Rush, Naf, and Mixwell on a team without a 5th for almost half a year. Now look at all these players.

We have had 3 completely different lineups in 1 year time, and one after another they are getting worse.

Next time you watch your team and think how much it sucks to be a fan of your team just keep in mind that it completely sucks cock to be an OpTic fan.

[–]EmandiputsAVANGAR Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a fan of both Liquid and Astralis through 2016-17 I'd say it can't get worse than that. But I feel for you guys too.

[–]excel210rFnatic Fanatic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Revenge of Optic on Stan this time

[–]RotaqTeam Astralis Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now this is what gets me erect

[–]BrumafriendGenuine 500k Party Pin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy shit this is great.

I've been following Heroic since they formed the org (and actually before since I supported the old SK Gaming Danish roster) but any success they've had has always been undermined by the fact that they're basically a farm team for North/Astralis, so this move is really good news!

[–]caffeineandkushdAT Team Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyone not expect this i mean comon

[–]qchisqNorth Fan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So here's my question, as a noob: There's a timeline in which both Heroic and Optic makes it to the ESL Finals. What's gonna happen if/when this change happens?

[–]Nephyyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe that both teams have to play out the season with their current rosters and when finals come around then optic will play with their full danish line up and heroic will play with the 4 they have left from the 6 man roster and I believe they are adding frieberg on a short term basis.

[–]Ravioli227BIG Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank god. I have not really loved how Stanislaw has been igling recently and Shahzam kind of is who he is. Jugi and Snappi should bring this team back to relevance. It was sad to watch Konfig waste away on this team and I’ve actually been impressed by gade so far. He certainly has the technical skill.

[–]Penny_NicholsGambit Esports Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This just strengthens the team, I never thought the international roster would work out anyway. This team could be a major contender if they qualify(the Europe minor is like a tank of sharks)

[–]vatrisamAstralis Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This roster looks sick compared to North imo

[–]Spork_RevolutionAstralis Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why would they ever go? Does OpTic pay more?

[–]Cameter44Cloud9 Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wonder if C9 would've considered Stan if this had happened a few weeks ago. Shahz even would've been in the conversation to replace Ska if he ended up leaving I'm sure.

[–]LituimNinjas in Pyjamas Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Optic line-up trend: NA -> EU -> NA + EU -> Denmark

[–]harry47richardsTeam Astralis Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rip MSL

[–]Ingleby_OpTic Gaming Fan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Omfg let's go

[–]chelsfan123FaZe Clan Fan 3 points4 points  (10 children)

haven't watched Heroic a lot so asking this, is JUGi a dedicated AWPer? or is he like cajunb in many ways? Also is Snappi going to be the igl?

[–]areyoujokinglolCloud9 Fan 13 points14 points  (7 children)

Jugi is a dedicated AWPer and is super sick. Can absolutely be the primary star of this team. Snappi will for sure be the IGL.

[–]readmyslipsAstralis Fan 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Don't you think he has some pretty tough opposition for that title? Being on the same as K0nfig and all...

[–]Av1sterTeam Astralis Fan 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Jugi and Konfig are the stars

[–]readmyslipsAstralis Fan 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I know. He said "primary". That's a stretch imo when K0nfig is there as well.

[–]KillAllHumans1011001Quantum Bellator Fire Fan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think it's a little like Niko and guardian actually. Star awp, star rifler

[–]readmyslipsAstralis Fan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I completely agree with that. Not questioning Jugi at all.

[–]areyoujokinglolCloud9 Fan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure, yeah, but AWPers tend to be prioritized over riflers in that regard.

[–]chelsfan123FaZe Clan Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ahh that's amazing then. really looking forward to this lineup now

[–]pretty-boy-100 Thieves Fan 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Jugi is the second best dedicated Danish AWPer right now. Snappi will be their IGL.

[–]chelsfan123FaZe Clan Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ahh that's amazing then. really looking forward to this lineup now

[–]_VondasAstralis Fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this was was what the optic roster was going to be but refresh would not let jugi and snappi go.

from the rushbpodcast comment under mine http://goedhartvoordieren.nl/?page=r/GlobalOffensive/comments/89z6c9/jugis_hltv_page_says_he_isnt_on_a_team/dwuk2da/

[–]ws_voltAstralis Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hell yes, on paper that would be amazing.

[–]tarangkHowl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

please be true

please be true

this would be such a massive upgrade for optic in both IGL and AWP department

[–]CGreggsNatus Vincere Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YES YES

[–]XYMOOSEMirage Veteran 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% an upgrade for optic.

[–]Intr0zZzZTeam Liquid Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes please?

[–]EnzoLegendValeria 0 points1 point  (0 children)

good move for optic to get a danish team as there is lot of talent in Denmark

[–]MylesAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Big fan of Jugi, quality player good pickup if it happens.

[–]AtomicBaka100 Thieves Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feelsbad for Heroic tho, wonder if they even knew about that move

[–]BILLS0NValeria 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Snappi is one of most underrated in game leaders imo. Individually he is playing well leatly too. https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/events/922/Snappi I remember a lot of Danish pros giving him high praises.

[–]fearexmousesports Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hopefully they click together. This seems like a scary lineup.

[–]I_am_Bruce_WayneNinjas in Pyjamas Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Must suck to be Stanislaw

[–]wehaddababyeetsaboyCloud9 Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's very interesting I wonder where Stan and Shaz end up.

[–]xndrzGambit Gaming Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ruggah to coach no doubt

[–]MantaRochenHLNinjas in Pyjamas Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I can't to see them playing on LAN!

[–]qqh8x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lets go OPDK !

[–]Bearly_funnyFaZe Clan Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always thought this would be a good move if it happened. This team has the potential to be top 10 and matches against North will always be fun to watch.

[–]Lucastana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

north 2.0 beta

[–]Minoo7Cloud9 Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FBM

[–]ANAL_DevestateHydra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dude YES

[–]WaveeeeeSK Gaming Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a hard time imagining stan getting along with k0nfig as an IGL. Not only personality wise but even in the game itself you could see it. This is a way better lineup and I'm looking forward to see how they perform! (Probably very well)

[–]ItayKmousesports Fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

spicy danish team

already 2nd best in Denmark