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After 55 straight nights of filming, the longest battle in Game of Thrones has finished filming and the cast given a letter by the producer

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The letter “Lens cap was on. Reshoots start Monday.”

377 points·1 month ago

“Camera was upside-down. Reshoots start Monday.”

They shot it in wumbo

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“DOP spilled mustard on lens day one. Reshoots start Monday. Also, we’re going streaking. Bring your green hat.”

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"Keep your fucking mouths shut." -HBO Producer

And someone immediately posted it to Instagram..

It would be funny if they gave everybody involved a slightly differently worded letter.

Its the best way to find the leaker

Learning from Tyrion I see...

While it is no secret the egotistical maniac doesn’t want to be a part of the media frenzy

Godamn that article is trash

180 points·1 month ago

Tabloids at its best. All fucking scabs.

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🚫🌊

I can't believe people actually read that. I always thought tabloids were like normal papers but just reported bullshit. Didn't know they actually wrote that way.

Technically a tabloid just refers to a specific format of paper. The term 'tabloid' doesn't refer to the journalism itself or what the paper reports on. There are good tabloids out there too but unfortunately so many are trash that tabloids in general now carry that reputation.

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Kim Kierkegardashian

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The cast will never see it coming!

Unless they've watched Game of Thrones.

American Gods24 points·1 month ago

There are lot of unicode characters that look practically the same.

Have each letter contain a a double article in a a different spot and the the people reading might not even notice.

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You jest, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Especially with a show that costs this much! Doesn't World or Warcraft do something like this?

Actually, if we think about it, the actual show had this as a plot point involving Tyrion sending Cersie's kids around the world.

106 points·1 month ago·edited 1 month ago

Yup. It was to test which one of the other members of the small council (Pycelle, Littlefinger or Varys) was leaking information to Cercei. He told each a different plan and when Cercei confronted him about it, he knew exactly who had spilled the beans

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Canary trap.

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Probably the HBO producer.

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Two days were required to get all the shots for the actual battle sequences. The other fifty-three days were about shooting irrelevant scenarios so that leakers will leave the audience misinformed.

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Yes they have good track record of not leaking episodes.

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Would be funny if this was one of the “fake endings” they made to throw cast off on what ending was and just in case there are leaks.

"So you're telling me I put my hardest work into something we're not gonna use? The fuck."

1.0k points·1 month ago

Are you quoting Jared Leto after seeing the first edits to Suicide Squad?

"So you're gonna include that many shots of me?! You guys really are stupid"

-A surprisingly introspective Leto

Care to elaborate?

Jared Leto shot a far bit more scenes as the Joker than ended up in the movie.

Suicide Squad has its issues, but the Joker was mishandled by directors more than he was mis-cast.

I always assumed that they might reuse some of those scenes for a sequel, but I actually have no idea if that's going ahead after the film got panned.

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In the original script, according to I think Leto or someone working on the film, the Joker was supposed to be the main antagonist and after they finished shooting, the studio fired the editing company that was working on the film and went with the guys who edited the trailer for the movie.

And because Leto is an obscenely method actor he went full tilt asshole and alienated the rest of the cast, mailing them used condoms and dead rats.

In interviews promoting the movie, he tried to hide how crushed he was, but it was like talking to someone whose dog just died.

Ya Jared Leto isn't a method actor. He's a hack.

The mailing them used condoms and dead rats isn't awe inspiring , it's cringe worthy. What about the Joker's persona would he mail used condoms to someone? Everyone remembers that memorable episode of Batman when the joker pelted batman with used condoms, right? Or used the postal service.

I'm pretty sure that's all exaggerated stories and bullshit. For example, the only rat he gave away was to Margot. She thought it was cute and kept it as a pet. Guillermo Del Toro has it now.

People love to shit on the guy and maybe they're right, but I see these things repeated over and over and it really makes me wonder how much bullshit I myself believe.

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman

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Happens all the time in VFX. Worked 3 months on a sequence recently and it was cut from the film..

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You got paid right? Yeah. Fuck yeah.

A lot of time VFX companies DON'T get paid, there's been more than one case where a movie studio will pump a VFX company with work, not pay them and then wait for them to file bankruptcy to settle debt for pennies on the dollar (or just laugh cuz the VFX team can't afford the lawyers at that point)

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324 points·1 month ago

This sounds like massive battle, but its acutally 55 day shoot of Hound vs Mountain.

CLEGANEBOWL HYPE !

WHAT IS HYPE MAY NEVER DIE

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If they spend such a small amount of time on the masterpiece that is Cleganbowl I'd be mad. It's at least a 100 day shot to get that right

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193 points·1 month ago

That's why it took so many days to shoot - they shot it once a day with different sets of main characters dying.

I want to see a supercut of that. Each character dying in some horrible way. And before each death, the say "son of a BITCH!"

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The fuck? Is that really a thing???

Yup, and it has already been reported that that will be happening for GoT. Variations like this (including not telling other actors the real information) have happened for other films/series throughout the years (Star Wars is another one that comes to mind).

On The Simpsons they also animated fake shootings for the conclusion of Who Shot Mr. Burns. You can see them on the 138th Episode Spectacular clip show. Apparently they tried to leak some of the fake clips but no one in the media would bite.

Didn't they have to do that though, because of the tie in with the Butterfinger contest to guess who actually did it.
IIRC, at the time it was the biggest cliffhanger since "Who shot J.R."
%$&# I'm old.

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It is, but it's simpler than it sounds. They don't film whole entire sequences and scenes that they don't plan on using. They will do a few takes of the same scene with different people dying and things of that sort. It's not super common but it does happen occasionally.

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its not hard to figure out the ending. There are three main possibilities:

  1. Good: Daenerys and Jon Snow end up ruling

  2. Jon Snow dies. Daenerys wins the game

  3. Daenerys dies Jon Snow wins the game

Lets be real here. White walkers will not win

Turns out GoT is just the prequel to AMC$ new hot show, white walking dead.

Don’t you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby

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I’m still holding out for option 4: the Others aren’t totally evil (in keeping with GRRM’s morally-grey characterizations) and the humans have to make a sacrifice for peace with them (e.g. Jon becomes one of them).

I forget where I read the theory but someone thinks the Others are only going to war because some ancient agreement was broken unknowingly.

" there must always be a lich king "

Jon Snow kills the night king then becomes one?

Part of the ship part of the crew.

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33 points·1 month ago·edited 1 month ago

Don't rule out a time loop because of Bran.

I get the feeling he might be responsible for the white walkers, and is the one who made the deal with the children of the forest.

It'd get them neatly into prequel territory also.

GRRM has pretty much said the ending isn't some gimmick like that or something that happens suddenly or depends on one single thing or character. He said he is envisioning a long, satisfying, detailed ending like the Lord of the Rings, where there's like 150 pages after the ring is destroyed but the wrapping up of the entire saga is satisfying and bittersweet.

So I think we can all rule out time loops.

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86 points·1 month ago

Lets be real here. White walkers will not win

Yeah GRR Martin would never kill off fucking everyone

It's less about GRRM being notorious for killing off Main characters and more so that killing off everyone at the end would be shitty story telling which GRRM tends to avoid.

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I don't think the battle is gonna be an ending. Remember the white walkers are through the wall and Jon and Denarys are on ships headed up north not knowing what awaits. I think this battle might be in the first episode as soon as they land up north.

No way is this the first episode. This is going to be the biggest set piece in television history, it is definitely one of the later episodes Sapochnik directed. Most likely episode five, maybe four.

My bet is that its multiple episodes.

The books have the concept of the "Long night" when the others were coming in the past, so the shooting report doesn't imply that its one battle - the whole war might be in darkness.

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Dear cast,

Once more with feeling. We forgot to turn on the cameras.

Sincerely, D&D

247 points·1 month ago

"Hair in the gate, sorry."

“It’s ok. They’ll fix it in post.”

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In LOTR Return of the King, Peter Jackson had the cast do like a billion different takes of the Hobbits bidding Frodo farewell at the Grey Havens and just when he got the take he wanted, he realized Sean Astin was wearing some of his clothes inside out so they had to redo it. All of the Hobbits were pissed at Sam.

They actually say in the BTS blurays that that scene was so emotional they accepted the wrong clothing scene. Both scenes have different clothes in the final cut.

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Peter Jackson had the cast do like a billion different takes of the Hobbits bidding Frodo farewell at the Grey Havens

They shot it 3 times. The first time, there was a technical issue and the shots were all out of focus. The second time, Sean Astin wasn't wearing one of his shirt layers and they finally got it the third time.

God dammit Sam

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“Happier, and with the mouth more open.”

:D We got multiple stab wounds on the bodies!!!! :D

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For comparison, the battle of Helm's Deep took 120 days to film.

No doubt it'd be tough to match a masterpiece like Helm's Deep but hopefully such a long scene doesn't become boring.

Still gives me goosebumps every time I watch it.

Fuck yes. The way the lightning shows the entire army or Uruk Hair marching to the wall and then they stop and start chanting to the point where its echoed through the caves. So fucking chilling and epic.

Edit: Also the way it shows the entire army of Uruk-Hai

When both armies are in place, and there's the slow camera crawl over their faces on the wall, and it stops on Theoden King, I always think what his inner dialogue must be: "Could be worse, could be raining."

Then lightning flashes and the rain starts, and he gets a look.

"Is this all you can conjure, Sauruman?"

Olympic Torch Uruk: "Hold my grog."

Legolas, who had previously been hitting headshots from miles away throughout the two films, misses probably the most important shot on the entire trilogy

Agree that it's conspicuous. To be fair though, he shot like half a quiver into that dude... fucker just wouldn't go down.

Neither does my wife

Well if all she gets is half a quiver, who can blame her?

Damn. Well played.

I work with the bow I’ve been give

And my axe!

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If people are wanting to get pedantic about how unrealistic it was then I shall as well.

Firstly, battles take hours, Helms Deep was all night, non stop. Elves don't even need to sleep and Legolas probably didn't even rest. On the wall you piss with your left hand and stab with your right. Clean it up later if you win, or the enemy can if you lose. How many arrows do you think Legolas shot that night? Were they all perfect? Or did the film only show the perfect shots?

Example, the large ladders used to breach the keep. Legolas shot the grappling line of one so that it fell back and killed a bunch. A very precise shoot. How many ladders were there though? Surely he tried to stop all ladders but why show a missed shot? Answer: to show his imperfections, but we like our heroes to appear perfect. (The Deeping Wall was a critical piece of defense. Showing of Legolas' failure with the Urak torch bearer overrides our need for his perfect image.)

The Urak torch bearer wasn't just any grunt. He would have been picked over the other Urak-hai because he performed better in every way (maybe with the exception of intelligence as that is useful for leaders). Basically he was an adrenaline filled jock ready to take a hit and keep going. One arrow, will not cut it.

The Urak took 2 hits, one in each shoulder. Each hit, was arguably the most effective option that Legolas could aim for. It should also be noted that he only had time to let loose 2 shots. Time is critical so he had to make the decision quickly.

His helmet was solid plate. Chance of a glancing blow is just too high.

If you look back at the scene you'll see that the angle of the arrows was quite high, almost vertical. At these angles, the area of the body that he can aim for is minimal so a killing shot to the heart is not an option either.

With a damaged shoulder there is also a chance of dropping the torch slowing the Urak down. Aiming lower down the arm increases this chance of dropping the torch and missing him altogether.

Last and most importantly. It's a work of fiction and an arrow filled Urak is far more dramatic and entertaining than an explosion with no build up.

And even if he killed the torch bearer, that doesn't mean someone else can't pick up the torch and finish the job

Trodo the Uruk and his faithful companion, Bamtise Ramge. The torch bearer and his friend, on an adventure of their lifetime.

Coming soon to a theater near you

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I mean, he's awesome but not a god exactly

Let’s stay on topic.

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I think the adrenaline took that particular Uruk to the line because, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he take at least two hits on that run?

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And then, the arrow... they all get SUPER pissed

... So it begins

127 points·1 month ago

When that first one dies I always think, "1 down, 9,999 to go!"

Whatever happened to that old guy?

Safe to say anyone that you didn’t see in the hall is dead

Maybe he was hiding under the other bodies.

Oh man that's a classic

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Suave or Pantene?

Orctis

Uruk Hair would be a totally bitchin' band name...

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My favorite fact is that the Uruk battering ram was full-size, took at least a dozen people to carry, and more like 30 strong stunt people to carry at ramming speed....and it did absolutely nothing to the doors that the prop shop had built. They rammed it many times without much more than a dent. They had to weaken the doors significantly to allow the ram to break through.

Sigh. I’m going to have to rewatch the whole trilogy again, aren’t I?

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Damn English oak!

It always bothered me how they made Gimli into such a joke in that part. In the books he was quite fierce in that battle. Even Aragorn commented that he had never seen anyone wield an axe they way Gimli did.

I don’t think he was a joke. Sure he got tossed, but him and Aragorn holding the bridge together was pretty badass

Seriously Gimli held it down. Those berserk orcs that ride the ladders onto the wall just melt the elves in front of them, but Gimli wastes the first one he encounters no problem.

He also hiked his short ass all the way up that tower to blow the horn.

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He did beat Legolas that day though.

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I think we watched two different movies. Gimli stood side by side with Aragorn, Isildur's heir, and matched him kill for kill when the two of them held the gate in the face of an endless horde of Uruk Hai.

I mean, that's pretty fucking badass and I'll take that over shield surfing down some steps and poncing about with a bow on the walls.

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I don't think we'll ever see a battle sequence as good as Helm's Deep but GoT has come close twice so far IMO. Battle of the Bastards and The Watchers on the Wall are both outstanding.

Hardhome is phenomenal as well.

The best thing about Hardhome is how UNEXPECTED it was. When Jonny boy goes to the wildlings I was thinking "Maybe he'll argue with some wildlings and fight a few zombies", but nope HUGE massacre out of nowhere!

Exactly! Just a bunch of really crazy shit out of nowhere; ice zombies hurling themselves down the cliff, Jon locks eyes with the night King, the fallen all standing up at once at the end as a big "fuck you" to Jon as he's escaping. Definitely my favorite.

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Plus we see him kill a white walker with Valyrian steel which was one of the most badass moments in the entire series.

It's built up so well too - and the way it is actually filmed is just amazing. Miguel Sapochnik is an absolute master at filming these frantic, terrifying encounters.

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My personal favorite.

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Man, Watchers on the Wall is such a great episode. So it BotB.

WotW is god damn amazing. Probably my favorite episodes of the entire series, along with S6E10

S6E09 is an amazing battle episode, but S6E10 just gives me chills.

Everyone forgets about the Battle for Blackwater Bay

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Battle of Minas Tirith was as good if not better than Helms Deep imo...

Ruined by the superpower ghosts, though.

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Battle of the bastards was better imo in terms of feeling like the most realistic medieval warfare ever filmed. LOTR is just inherently cooler.

The Americans269 points·1 month ago

Yeah, Battle of the Bastards was great because of how brutally real it felt. From the start with the horses clashing, to the end where it became this dirty fucking fist fight of desperation essentially.

128 points·1 month ago

It felt like the Saving Private Ryan of the medieval fantasy genre.

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I don’t think it was realistic at all, but it was extremely entertaining.

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According to Gabriel, the only battle more epic than that was heaven vs. hell, with Kenny as Commander.

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Wow thanks for that! I remember seeing it in theatres, I was 12 years old, and that's when I knew these movies were something special and wouldn't be eclipsed likely ever in my lifetime.

Do you have any insight into how long it took to shoot the battle of Pelennor Fields, or the defence of Zion in the Matrix: Revolutions?

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Was that actual shooting for 120 days or does that number involve a number of other stuff like making the costumes, the scenery etc?

I know nothing about movie making, but that sounds like an absurd number. You'd have hundreds of hours of footage from each camera. I can only imagine the cost of keeping all these people there working all this time. Even with top notch CGI...

Actually filming. The making of the costumes, sets, et cetera was a years long processed that started long before shooting. It sounds incredibly long, and it was, but that’s because the LOTR films really just had that much passion and effort and love put into them. I highly recommend watching the making of documentaries if you are interested. They are probably the best ever made for any film.

I never have the patience to usually watch that amount of stuff. But me and my daughter watched ALL of it on all the movies and found it as intriguing or sometimes more so than the movie. So incredible what is put into it all. I second his recommendation.

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52 points·1 month ago

plus the extended cuts went into some great detail to match the books

I still need to see those extended cuts. I’ve only ever seen the theatrical versions.

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Also remember that the cameras only roll for a very short time every day. Much of that time is set up and logistics. Rolling several cameras at a time is the only reason it didn’t take a year or more to do.

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Also for a third of a year, wouldn’t the seasons start to change? Didn’t it rain for most of the battle? So, fake rain machines right? How much water do you go through for rain machines for a 120 day shoot? Did some days have a full moon and others not? Were some nights cloudy and others not? Might not matter for an average shoot, but I’d imagine all these factors become bigger problems when the time frame is stretched out this far.

Rain and lighting are all controlled. They aren't filming by moon light and the moon's light has minimal effect compared to the artificial lighting on set.

Seasons don't make any difference to the set, it's a castle at night time.

It took longer to film Helm's Deep than it did to film The Last Jedi.

It took longer to film Helm's Deep than it did to film The Last Jedi.

It shows too.

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LOTR has the best fight scenes and they mostly held up really well due to practical effects and truly excellent costuming.

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Calling it now: zombies attack, humans only survive because of the primitive-yet-brave Ewoks.

117 points·1 month ago

“Wicket sends his regards.”

The army of dwarves arrives and proceeds to drink and fuck themselves numb. They then put on their Ewok costumes to for the battle scene.

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My mate used to live in Toome, it’s a shit hole, don’t know how you could film there for 55 days

Original Poster434 points·1 month ago

apparently full of sheep too

Nah just their shit. They all moved.

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Since we know where it was filmed, can we speculate where the battle takes place based on the landscape of Toome/other locations nearby in Northern Ireland that were used to film?

Probably anywhere in Westeros besides dorne. It's all a similar climate, especially if it's snowing everywhere now.

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Bit of a brutal way to give them their notice.

When tens of millions of people around the world watch this episode a year from now, they won't know how hard you worked.

now we will, thanks to a snitch

Might as well be leaked on purpose though. Creating hype etc.

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That’s only a fraction of the time they’ll spend on cleganebowl

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clegane bowl hype

season 8 is going to be 5 straight episodes of uninterrupted Clegane Bowl, and then the last episode will be a two-hour long one-shot scene of the Clegane brothers teaming up to defeat the Walkers with no help.

"To defeat the zombies...you must become one!"

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48 points·1 month ago

Power overwhelming

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96 points·1 month ago

Its just called 2 Brothers

Fighting each other

And then fighting the zombies

But the Zombies have a dragon

And then the mexican army joins the zombies

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BoJack Horseman29 points·1 month ago

I'm ok with this

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One of them is a zombie already, so easy win for the humans. You can't turn a zombie into a zombie. Eat it, icicle bros.

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Clegane brothers teaming up to defeat the Walkers with no help.

No, they're still fighting each other. All the Walkers just get in the way.

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CONFIRMED

Off topic but two POI flairs back to back? I have found my people

you are being watched

I can't believe it's been going on 2 years. I feel morally obligated to rewatch it.

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Original Poster1.9k points·1 month ago

I was trying to anticipate which meme this image would trick me into looking at and was pleasantly surprised to see the actual letter.

Original Poster599 points·1 month ago

No bamboozles here

Was the absence of a bamboozle a bamboozle itself?

The Venture Bros.182 points·1 month ago

My, what cynical bastards we’ve all become.

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Congratulations. You bamboozled yourself.

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a year from now

😭

I'm going to lock myself inside so I don't die on some bullshit before I see this battle.

So life as usual then?

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When tens of millions of people watch this episode a year from now, they won't know hard you worked.

That's would make me feel so good

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A year from now.

Well shit, it is not coming out for another year. Pack it up boyz.

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The Longest Night

I hope it's a fucking 2 hour episode

Everyone is upset season 8 only has six episodes but then we find out each episode is six hours long.

I'd be fine with that

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Ramin Djawadi is about to give out the greatest battle composition of all time...

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CLEGANE BOWL FOUGHT FOR 55 NIGHTS?! FUCK YEA.

It was actually just a scene of Bran looking ominously at a tree. They needed 55 nights because he didn’t look ominous enough.

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And dragonfire whilst rain down upon thee...

Yeah this was being filmed 20 miles away from where I live. They were filming for a long fucking time in a huge ass field. Massive security at it, couldn't see much but you 'could hear nothing but men screaming and roaring !

..couldn't see much but you 'could hear nothing but men screaming and roaring !

Thats Magherafelt on a Saturday night.

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Things I've learned from this thread: never insult the Lord of the Rings trilogy on Reddit.

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Original Poster276 points·1 month ago

Think of all the main characters whose last day of filming it was...

256 points·1 month ago

Probably not as many as you'd think considering they don't shoot chronologically.

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Clearly Arya Stark was alive the whole time and they will randomly cut to her changing faces. As she slowly reaches the target.

We find out everyone is Arya and then we find out Brann has been warging Arya this whole time.

Exactly. Arya is the op assassin we needed

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Comedy night shoots in LA are tough, this must have been hell. Going to look great when it's on TV.

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Spoiler alert: Everyone dies

spoiler: the battle cuts mid way to a scene of G.R.R. Martin waking up to a dream where he almost finished the script but he dies of obesity. It was all a dream. que sad GoT theme

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It’s their Helm’s Deep.

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What battle would this be?

Probably the gates at Winterfell , because it will be the place where Winter fell.

And just a reminder, there’s about 15000 dead bodies quite close to that place since the battle of the bastards.

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Should have been 56 Nights, I think that’d be crazy

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