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Theresa May mocked for suggesting Tories are to thank for credit card charge ban imposed by EU - The UK Government obliged to adopt new rules that were devised by the European Parliament and spearheaded by left-wing parties, but Theresa May tried to claim credit for it

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Ha. She tried to pull a 'Trump'

She a fast learner

Shame her charisma level = dead fish

That's not fair to dead fish. They are a source of nutrition for many living things. May is a self-ingratiating tory - of value to no-one but herself and other self-ingratiating tories.

Well that's not true, she was of value to the DUP

They aint paid yet.

She could also provide nutrition, should she be eaten.

you'd burn more calories vomitting than you'd gain

Her charisma level = Trump

Nah. That’s one of trumps greatest assets.

“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”

Charisma through the roof folks.

I think it's somewhat admirable how every Trump speech is able to contain so many words that convey no information.

Its scary how accurate this is

This is an actual quote, he has said this.

Along with his hair?

and his hands

2 points · 6 months ago

SUCH a fast learner.

Is that a newspeak word for "lie"?

She did pull one, she lied and it backfired, classic Trump

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7 points · 6 months ago

Theresa May and Donald Trump: Separated at birth.

Donald is prettier, though.

More of a coin toss. They're both meh for a man and yuck for a woman.

153 points · 6 months ago

The lady in charge tried to take credit for the credit card charge waiver but was discredited and proceeded to run through some fields to waive off the charge that she is a loon.

58 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

May claims sway in affray over pay-delay defray, they say.

11 points · 6 months ago

Who wrote this copy? Randy, I'm looking at you

Ok Princess Caroline.

I’m Leslie Knope and I approve this comment.

Hey

130 points · 6 months ago

Oh Theresa. Stop trying to be like Donnie it really doesn’t suit you.

It does suit her, she knows Brexit is a bad idea but she just bullshits. Constantly. She's Trumpian

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31 points · 6 months ago

Except she couldn't get away with the kind of shit he pulls on a daily basis.

No, she's Trump lite and if she ever tried to go full Trump, the people would march on London. The closest we have to Trump is Boris Johnson, why are they always blonde?

Blonde, fat, and publicly bumbling.

The difference is that BoJo isn't an idiot; he just plays one on TV, which is actually worse.

I honestly believe Trump is dumb enough to believe the side of a bus about Brexit; BoJo put it there, and defended it, knowing it was bullshit.

And don't forget he could also run for POTUS if he felt like it as he was born in America and still has US citizenship, so beware yanks we may just export him to you....

He would need to live in the US for fourteen years first... It would however be an amazing historical feat if he was elected POTUS, even more so if he managed to become PM in the UK first.

11 points · 6 months ago

Well yeah, remember pre-referendum he had supposedly written two articles, one pro-Brexit, one pro-remain?

He decided last minute to choose the Brexit route, he’s an opportunist and most be stopped.

he’s an opportunist

Exactly.

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4 points · 6 months ago

The difference is that BoJo isn't an idiot

I keep hearing this but I've never been presented with evidence to confirm it.

Primary evidence: he won a King's Scholarship to Eton based on his mastery of classical languages, then a scholarship to Balliol to read Literae Humaniores, and only narrowly missed a first because he got overly involved in student societies.

Secondary evidence: the 'bumbling Old Etonian' act is exactly that: an act. Johnson is deliberately playing to a caricature with which the English are so familiar that it's effectively social camouflage. It allows them to place him comfortably in a pigeonhole marked 'Innocuous Eccentric', and ignore the harm he's actually doing.

I don't know. So he has a talent for literature, I'm not sure that yet qualifies him as smart. Agree he seems to play up to a role, but other than that he still seems like an actual idiot to me.

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trying to create a positive public image of his family

This has been Johnson's entire life since the moment he arrived at Eton.

You mean like when she declares a pedophilia investigation must be stopped because of national security?

The people would not march on London. Apathy is rife in the UK.

I’d disagree, but I don’t really care either way.

Not with these train fares!

To be perfectly honest, Trump doesn't get away with jack shit. If it weren't for basically everybody around him actively protecting him from any and all consequence of his actions, then he'd be nailed to the wall faster than you can blink. Even with the inexplicably adept job that his babysitters are performing (considering the level of weirdness required to not see anything wrong with this scenario), he's sinking fast. Even the Orangutan In Chief's most ardent supporters overseas should be able to see that he's a wannabe Nero fiddling on the bow of the Titanic. That is not a thing to emulate. Learn from, maybe.

People who take credit for others work in the workplace are also highly correlated to engage in other types of criminal/bad behavior such as embezzlement, fraud, sexual harassment and plagiarism.

https://blog.valerieaurora.org/2017/07/18/the-al-capone-theory-of-sexual-harassment/

So when Theresa May acts like and sounds like Trump, that's because she is like Trump.

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67 points · 6 months ago

Theyre also taking credit for the 5p bag charge. It was first introduced in Wales... by Labour. Its like the Tories havent realised the internet exists yet.

They also took credit for gay marriage, despite most of their politicians voting against it

Yeah silly conservatives tried to take credit for legalizing cannabis, bunch of morons. They forgot the last 40 years of advocating for harsher drug sentences.

Don't forget the manifesto pledge on capping utility prices, taken straight from the Labour 2015 manifesto,which they derided at the time as unworkable, but 2 years later presented as being their own policy.

Its like the Tories havent realised the internet exists yet.

Their voter based is doddery old fogies who actually live in fear of modern technology, distrust any news source outwith the Murdoch empire, and hold the view that if only we kicked out "them foreigners" then we can reestablish the empire.

These are the idiots that bought into the whole bendy bananas bullshit even after the journalists that made it up (to show how stupid the British public are) admitted as much.

You could sit them down and show them documentary evidence and they would still deny it.

5 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

You're overthinking it. They don't fear modern technology, they have no use for it. They don't distrust non-Murdochian news, they don't receive an alternative. They don't know any foreigners except the guy that fixes their sink.

The common Tory is a rural working or middle class worker who lives in their village of less than a thousand people. Maybe one person in fifty villages is black, and they are likely in the Army so they're one of the good ones. The only paper distributed is either the Times or the Daily Mail. They have no need for things like fibre optic broadband or satellite television as they are perfectly content with ordinary telly or listening to the Archers on the wireless. They are either freeholders or leasehold with the local landowner who they know quite well because he has so few clients he can afford to take the time to get to know people. When they're at home they're not thinking "cor I bloody hate those Pakis", they're thinking about when they are going to go to the pub which is the centre of the community, or what they are going to sing in the choir, or when they are going to met Shila or Dorrick for tea. They see the same faces every day and they know everybody and everything that happens within their community. Their world is a safe and secure bubble and that's the way they like it thank you very much. They are completely sovereign from the outside world, except when BT comes through to dig up the roads, or townies come to walk their dogs and leave gates open.

The common Tory respects the law, the Forces, the Church, the farms, the pub, and the village hall. Outsiders like townies bring drugs and antisocial behaviour. Those immigrants are just about as strange as strangers can be, but those Polish are good hardworking chaps. Respect and tolerance is earned, not given. After all, when you invite a man into your home you expect him to abide by your rules. They don't know anything about Islam, and they have no inclination to care, because most of them will never meet a Muslim, so they have no need to learn.

The leading industries are farming, the Army, palliative care, hospitality, groundskeeping, landscaping, and the petrol station. They understand the value of hard work, of calloused hands from hard labour, of minds worn by working with the sick and the vulnerable, of duty and rigid organisation.

They will vote for one reason only: to protect their way of life. If their MP candidate says "I will protect the village bus services and landowner's rights" that MP will get their vote. If their MP candidate says "the Government wants to settle 500 refugees and increase land development in this constituency and I want to stop that" that MP will get their vote. If the MP candidate says "I will protect the tax free status on your first property" that MP will get their vote.

More people and development is always bad. The preservation of green spaces is always good. The shops and farms and pubs must remain independent. The food must be cheap. The village must be autonomous and be free to determine its own matters. Trouble may pass through from time to time but it never stays.

As a ruralite who grew up in one of the thousands of villages like I have just outlined, I can understand their way of looking at the world. Large crowds scare me. I live in a city now and I see a thousand faces every day and I never see the same face twice. I yearn for forests where the sky is hidden by thick knotted branches. I long for the hills where you can stand and stare for a dozen miles and see nothing but green. Where the sound of birdsong and the wind is louder than the cars, and the smell of pollen and mulch is thick in the air. I don't want diggers tearing up our meadows, builders laying the foundations of housing estates, I don't want my pub to be bought by J. D. Weatherspoon, I don't want the woods to be cut down, the farms to be purchased by corporations, I don't want my hobbies and my job and the jobs of my friends to be threatened by career politicians who call themselves reformists and do nothing but make it harder for decent people to do decent work.

The common Tory is a simple and honest traditional conservative that has found themselves stuck in a neo-liberal world with a globalist party that they no longer understand, but there is no alternative. There is no party that will turn things back to they way they were, there is no party that will protect their way of life, so they vote for what they are familiar with, and they continue their traditions, and they continue going to the pub, and they continue going nowhere.

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Don’t blame the old, blame the rich, they are who keep funding the Tories.

And those rich folk rely on bigoted old people to vote for the party they fund because they know that they go out and unquestioningly vote blue.

It's why I think compulsory voting should be a thing as the 60+ crowd have a disproportionately powerful vote.

Its like the Tories havent realised the internet exists yet.

Worse, they've discovered a sizable portion of the electorate doesn't care about facts. That won't end well.

What is this Internet thing you speak of, and where can I find it?

Dial AOL on your rotary phone, and speak slowly

Well they can take credit for introducing it to the rest of the UK. (Which the Labour Welsh government obviously can't do) I don't think they tried to take credit for the idea of a charge itself.

In the case of conservatives, ignorance really is strength.

Well in reality her party voted for it and went beyond the bill that was passed through EU Parliament

Much like Trump, she's discovered that her constituency is dumb enough to buy anything she says, since they're incapable of thinking for themselves.

Maybe it is a good thing they're leaving. The EU can always clean up the mess after they collapse into irrelevancy.

And collapse into irrelavency we will. We will sob and break our balls to be let back into the EU. And they will revel in it.

But without the tasty benefits you are currently enjoying, so even if you come back, you guys shot yourselves in the knee

-8 points · 6 months ago(2 children)
13 points · 6 months ago

can't blame Germany for the UK choosing to walk off a cliff

Works out quite nicely for Germany, nonetheless.

-23 points · 6 months ago(0 children)

Constituency != the UK voters, just FYI.

Ok, the majority of her constituency.

No, I mean that her constituency is Maidenhead, not the UK.

-21 points · 6 months ago(1 child)

The EU is doing pretty well currently, for sure better than the UK.

Of course Theresa Palpatine would, thankfully it's a disMay that she lied and as always get's caught out.

Leave Sheev out of this, he's a much better political operator than May.

May's more like the trade federation Vice Roy from Episode 1

I thought we agreed that his name is Frank?

Trade federation Viceroy from episode 1 is called Frank?

Can't wait to vote the wicked witch out of office.

-30 points · 6 months ago(4 children)

I did. But call me out anyway

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13 points · 6 months ago

I think he’s using the plural you

Oh. Well sorry I guess

In case you didn’t notice she had a minority, and had to give cash to Northern Ireland just to secure a Government.

She’s a joke, how the fuck does anybody still have any confidence in her?

I don't think many do.

Nobody does, even her own party doesn't. Her own MPs won't listen to her...

David Davis a fucking lying cunt, if Boris Johnson was born in a lower class family he would legally be classed as handicapped. Jeremy Cunt recently laughed at May when she wanted him gone from being in charged of the NHS. He's literally driving the NHS into a brick wall killing people on the way.

If any political party has been the most regressive without turning into a dictatorship I would assume May and the rest of the cunts to be sat in the Guinness book of records.

What has to happen for a vote of no confidence to be called?

No one wants to be the PM during brexit - it's political suicide. So they are quite happy to let unpopular May stay for the time being.

Plus, she had very little authority as demonstrated in the cabinet reshuffle. She's a useful puppet.

Yeah exactly! Damned if you do and damned if you don't. She'll never make everyone in the Tory party happy let alone the country. Plus could you imagine post brexit with Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees-Mogg as pm...... now that'd be some full blown trump stuff right there.

10 points · 6 months ago

The Tories need to take the full blame for the failure of Brexit, since failure is inevitable. Hopefully it’ll stop them getting into power for another ten years.

What has to happen for a vote of no confidence to be called?

Nothing specifically, although its usually considered helpful if you find something in order to make it look better. No confidence motions that have been used in the past have tended to follow after a significant parliamentary defeat, but can be put forward as a motion at any time. John Major called one on himself in order to secure the passage of the Maastricht Treaty.

The answer really comes to down a judgement as to whether or not the opposition believe they can win. I don't believe the Speaker permits frivolous repeated motions

Well if Corbyn is an example, you have to have actual decency and integrity to get a vote of no confidence called against you.

The same Corbyn who has consistently voted against the EU, ran a remarkably weak remain campaign, refusing to campaign together with other parties, ran a 3 line whip for Article 50, fefused to take a stance against a hard Brexit and has quite been quite happy to accept the support of remain supporting youth voters?

Have to agree, I've been very disappointed in Labour's Brexit stance. They should have been fighting for a soft Brexit deal. Then again he wants to appeal to right wing working class voters.

More than was the case before the 2010 election. The first action of the Tories in power was to change the law to make it harder to oust them, they later decided that wasn't enough and made it harder still.

Of course, all that was in the name of electoral stability, like the fixed term parliament act, which they gave up pretending to care about as soon as they thought they could get away with a quick grab of more seats. Funny how that worked out.

They'll need to find someone else willing to take the job, yet able to credibly continue her brexit ambiguity. Anyone taking a sufficiently strong stance wouldn't have the party support necessary to achieve a majority.

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But I thought that Brits didn't want Brussels making laws for them. They should make a law to double credit card charges just to show the EU who's boss!

If you look at her decisions, I think it’s clear she just isn’t very bright. She probably thought it was a Tory policy.

She's such a cunt.

Just in case anyone wasn't aware - bad people do bad things.

People who take credit for others work in the workplace are also highly correlated to engage in other types of criminal/bad behavior such as embezzlement, fraud, sexual harassment and plagiarism.

https://blog.valerieaurora.org/2017/07/18/the-al-capone-theory-of-sexual-harassment/

So when Theresa May acts like and sounds like Trump, that's because she is like Trump.

From what I've read, all the stuff about the May government....Brexit, the pedophilia cover ups, the Grenfell Tower etc...May is a bad bad apple and it's not hard for me to imagine she does really really bad shit we don't even know about.

Edit: Also hi, from the USA.

3 points · 6 months ago

These laws are retarded anyway. Immediately business have responded by adding “admin fees” legally to all sales not just for cards.

So now we all pay credit card fees all the time.

Ever hear of competition? Those fees are no longer hidden and ill go to the places that dont charge admin fee

And I'm sure that the .001% of people like you that pay attention to it will make a huge difference. It will just become industry standard and this will be a net loss for consumers.

What if they all increase prices?

Competition sounds nice but it’s actually in their best interests to work together to jack the price up.

8 points · 6 months ago

That's a crime and called a cartel.

You understand that that is also a crime right? Price fixing.

I think it was more about hidden charges, which you wasn't told about.

-11 points · 6 months ago(0 children)

Taking a page from Trump's playbook, is she?

-7 points · 6 months ago(5 children)

Tories is another name for the Conservative party in the UK. The Theresa May, David Cameron, Boris Johnson party. The ones who proposed the EU referendum.

The major right-wing political party in the UK. Like the republicans, only a little bit more centrist on some issues.

"A little bit". If anything the Tories are more ideologically aligned with the US Democrats. We really don't have anything as right wing as the Republicans

I wouldn't go that far

The BNP and DUP still exist

they are the same group. They were the major political party in power during the american revolution, and also right now.

-11 points · 6 months ago

I guess I'm missing the part where she "suggested Tories are to thank" for this.

All I see is here saying is that the government is introducing the ban on charges, using the same language as when any new legislation is introduced.

There's a poster out that says "We're banning blah blah" with a big "Conservatives" logo. Technically not incorrect but in that context the average reader would get the impression it was Tory policy.

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The Tories put out a couple of tweets

https://imgur.com/a/g1nRX

The way that they are written heavily imply that the decision was made by the Government, rather than being a result of EU policy.

"We're banning hidden charge" / "We've banned credit card changes"

-33 points · 6 months ago(0 children)

You have no idea it was The Tories that "had it written into British law" that's not how it works. Bills are read multiple time before parliament (not just tories) vote on it. How do you know this bill was proposed by a Tory? You don't. You don't even understand the process. Stop commenting on things without understanding them.

Who proposed the law?

Exactly. Who proposed the Bill? Let me know when you find out.

0 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

There’s no need to get aggressive. I meant the government, who’s leading party is currently the Tories. My main point still stands that without it being passed into UK law after Brexit it would have dissolved.

Apologies if I have offended.

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Mate.

Open the fucking link, it is posted from her twitter. If you let something be posted on your twitter account is is from you.

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Her twitter account put out a “we’ve banned credit card charges” banner. It’s on the link above

It's not explicit. It's implicit and you know it.

-26 points · 6 months ago(0 children)

He's not contributing to the discussion. He's deliberately misunderstanding the situation and his question is less of a question and more trying to make a point. He knows the claim is implicit rather than explicit. It's passive aggressive and unhelpful, also considering the story is how she is mocked for it by others it's not up to anyone to explain why those people have decided she is taking credit.

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-1 points · 6 months ago(0 children)
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You're a passive aggressive coward. Until you learn to deal with proper aggression I will not respect you. You are asking for specific text where Theresa May has claimed responsibility in black and white when you know it doesn't exist, the claim is implicit in her tweeting it from her account, using ambiguous language like "we" and not attributing responsibility where it properly lies. You understand that and are passive aggressively trying to ask a question to deflect from the situation rather than just accepting it's a weasely thing to do, or you are stupid. If the latter refer to my previous reply. If the former then carry on weaseling your way through life like a little shit, not fully engaging in a situation due to cowardice.

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Yeah you're right I was pretty heavy handed. I apologise.

Man if Europe ain't getting creepier and creepier. Socialism and Godlessness turns people into souless ghouls.

Ms. May must feel like someone lost and alone in a land full of rabid zombies. All the best to her. europeans! Yeeech!!!

-9 points · 6 months ago(1 child)

Incisive commentary, you've really changed my opinion on the matter!

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I suppose it's too bad for you that many of the EU's smart policies, like getting rid of roaming charges between EU member states, are intrinsically linked to being part of a political union then, isn't it?

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Neither is banning debit card charges.

16 points · 6 months ago

EU def isnt about freemarket capitalism. Why is that relevent?

Which dumb ones?

who is we? What say do you have whats a smart policy or not? I worry who is going to have that say, but it wont be me and i doubt its you.

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How is it incorrect? If it is, why does the EU even exist? Clearly your understanding of this is not that complete.

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You know, you're good at this whole "completely avoid the question so I don't look silly" thing.

8 points · 6 months ago

No not quite that simple

  • If we want to trade with the EU then those products and services must conform to EU regulations

  • The Brexit camp never actually specified which laws it didn’t like - except some bs about bananas and a general moan at human rights getting in the way

  • There’s a good chance that you will be unhappy with the results because they will be democratically decided

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You repeated this comment like 15 times fella

Was on my phone and it was being slow lol.

Because if you are going to have to conform to EU regulations it's insane to give up the ability to have a say in them?

-29 points · 6 months ago(0 children)

As things were previously, charges to accept credit and debit cards were capped at less than half a percent. That basically amounts to a rounding error for the majority of transactions.

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