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TIL Americans in Germany frequently get into trouble because they mow their lawns on sundays and holidays, which is a punishable offense in Germany. German law forbids making excessive noise on sundays and holidays, aswell as from 10PM to 7AM on weekdays.

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TIL Americans go to Germany to mow lawns.

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Aber nicht am Sonntag! Das könnte dir wohl so passen!

Warum liegt hier Stroh?

Und warum hast du ne Maske auf?

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We have a ton of military folks living in Germany.

Why would America's military invade Germany to mow their lawns?

160 points · 1 month ago

Lawn mowers, Margaret. That's what this war is all about... The smell of fresh-cut grass on a hot summer's day... girls with straight, white teeth... freckle-faced kids in striped T-shirts.

MASH, S5E03, "Margaret's Engagement"

922 points · 1 month ago

They want to prevent the next right-wing grassroots movement before it really gets started.

Should have stayed in America for that one...

Damn. That was brutal.

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"This is not exactly what I had in mind when I said 'mow them down'."

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Sie haben unsere Arbeit angenommen

They took our jerbs

78 points · 1 month ago

They took ar beit

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They accepted our jobs?

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We’re the Mexicans of Germany

165 points · 1 month ago

No. Turks are the Mexicans of Germany.

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If you live in Switzerland, you put your trash out on the curb between 7 a.m. and 7:05 a.m. (That's a little bit of a facetious exaggeration, but the window is very narrow.) God help you if you even think about putting your trash out the night before, you'll be guaranteed a visit from the local neighborhood representative (or local smug busybody who is just itching for a chance to educate the stupid American.) Source, lived in Switzerland.

1.8k points · 1 month ago

TIL Switzerland is a gigantic HOA

damn right it is. iv had police called countless times on me for working on and even just cleaning my car in my own driveway.

369 points · 1 month ago

How are you supposed to work on or clean your car then?

you dont here,no one does anything to there car themselves in this country.im serious

So you have to take your car in even for something as minor as changing your oil?

107 points · 1 month ago

I did it once on my family's driveway (Germany) and my dad almost ripped my head off. The fine would've been in 4-5 digits for doing outside of a workshop with a licensed oil separator.

88 points · 1 month ago

A German friend was visiting and we were talking about my Merc and I complained about how I couldn’t open my oil cap because it had a special lock to open and he was genuinely flabbergasted that any owner would want to open the oil cap.

17 points · 1 month ago

Wait what? I'm german and this is the first time I ever heard of that.Pretty much anyone versed enough know that you have to check your cars oil level every now and then also knows how to add oil if necessary. It's really not that hard. And a lot of people here also clean their cars in their driveways on saturdays every now and then, no one complains.

It might be a local thing. I could imagine some guy from berlin being flabbergasted about an oil cap lol, but were I live it feels like every street has like 3 good damn car repair shops. If you grow up here and don't want to study, or don't reach general higher education entrance qualifications, chances are pretty be high that you are going to fix Cars. Or Bikes. Maybe Campers as well.

5 points · 1 month ago

Accually doing a car wash or changing the oil IS illegal in your own driveway here in Germany because of environmental issues. For it to be legal you would be required to have a drain that collects all liquids so they do not get into the sewage system.

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I've saved almost $4,000 dollars this year working on me and my gf's cars.

That's like 1/5th of my entire income.

I couldn't afford to own a car if I couldn't do my own work on it.

I think in other countries they pay living wages

149 points · 1 month ago

Swiss are paid in nazi gold

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126 points · 1 month ago

The DIY culture America has with cars is fairly unique. I've lived in the US, but also five other countries, and North America is kinda alone on that front. Yes enthusiasts will do work on their own cars in any country, but the average person doesn't.

So yeah, I'd take my car in even for something as minor as an oil change. Thing is, I've never had to do JUST an oil change. The oil changes always coincide with the normal manufacturer service intervals anyway (every x thousand km or every y months, however they define it). So when you take it in, they change the oil and do all the other scheduled maintenance in one hit (filters, fluids, brake pads, tyre rotation, whatever).

Come to think about it, it's not just cars. Americans often do their own plumbing, electrical work etc. too. That is just not done elsewhere, and in many countries is completely illegal unless you are a licensed plumber/electrician/etc.

Maybe in the western world that's the case. If you go to eastern europe, people not only work on cars but sometimes even DIY build a house for 30 years.

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I wonder if mechanics in those countries have the same kind of rip everyone off mentality like a lot of shops seem to have here in the US. Not all of them but I’ve never been to a shop where someone didn’t try to seek me thousands of dollars worth of service that wasn’t necessary.

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14 points · 1 month ago

The problem is most oil change shops will screw you over. You go in for a 20 dollar oil change and walk out minus 250 bucks because they suckered you into a radiator fluid change and a flush that they never even did.

Im not exaggerating either, there is alot of documented and secretly filmed evidence of these dime a dozen oil change shops cat-fishing people with fake prices and then springing "package/value" deals on them once their in the door. Do you guys not have this happen overseas? Ill add in a link for one video as an exampl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaweLNqDAvc

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Id just speed run an oil change or pitch a big ol tent around my car.

38 points · 1 month ago

Tents are outlawed for this very reason

THIS WHOLE COUNTRY IS A GOD DAMN PRISON! ON THE PLANET HORSE SHIT! IN THE GALAXY OF "THIS SUCKS CAMEL DICKS!"

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i doubt anyone in switzerland is capable of doing it. and a oil change costs 200$

69 points · 1 month ago

The fuck?

It cost me $30 or so for the oil and filter when I changed it myself, but even taking it in to be changed it tops out at like $60.

oil costs 120$ or 5L to start with. i buy mine in Germany for like 30-40

24 points · 1 month ago

Oof. $25-30 for a 5 quart here, which is slightly less than 5 L.

Do they just tax the hell out of it or something?

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Switzerland is expensive. Spent a month in the Valais last summer (housesitting), and it ended up costing us about $7,000 for two people just on groceries and basic transportation. Beautiful, but damned expensive. I honestly don't know if I would do it again or not if I could go back in time.

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260 points · 1 month ago

Oh my god. Every elderly American is going to use your comment as proof positive that Europe is a terrible place to live.

89 points · 1 month ago

I mean parts of it are just like parts of America are.

101 points · 1 month ago

That sounds horrible!

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I'm not elderly but certain things I hear about Europe sound like a Utopia!...but then other things like this...and cops harassing you if you idle your car too long...sound awful.

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29 points · 1 month ago

So it sounds like a ignorant rule on the surface. But what are the reasons for this law or mentality that make it ok to call the cops if I am washing my car?

67 points · 1 month ago

In Germany washing your car on your own driveway is prohibited by environmental laws. The water with detergents and liquid from your car will run down where only rain water is supposed to go. That is a separate system from the one where we dispose of waste water from buildings.

Doesn't the oil, dirt, chemicals, etc that are on the road get washed there by the rain anyways?

23 points · 1 month ago

It’s not the dirt from the car that’s he problem (that all came from outside anyway), it’s the washing detergents they don’t want in the rainwater runoff.

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I don't have an HOA and would despise one, however after living only in non HOA areas I see that there could be some mild enforcement or general rules that would make it better. Unfortunately there is no middle ground when HOA boards are a magnet for power hungry retired cunts.

37 points · 1 month ago

Unfortunately there is no middle ground when HOA boards are a magnet for power hungry retired cunts.

Who are also easy targets for predatory management companies.

Which is why I always think back on how Frank Reynolds pronounces the word "whore" when I read "HOA" like it's a word.

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TIL I never want to live in Switzerland. CERN isn’t worth it.

I live in the French-speaking part [the one next to CERN] and things are way more lax. I guess the other dude lives in the German-speaking part, those guys don't mess around when it comes to ticking every Swiss stereotype checkbox.

Seriously, you know those little temporary metal construction bridges they put up when re-piping, yea, they even rig those with bombs just in case the Germans invade.

They stopped doing that to cut costs, same with decommissioning part of their bunkers and asking literally anyone interested to grab them for free just to get rid of them. That's why there are a bunch of data servers in Switzerland, since those bunkers are dirt cheap space to get with the added benefit of being isolated from EMP blasts in case of nuclear strikes, so there's that.

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43 points · 1 month ago

heh, this sounds like my father (am american). old retired guy that spends half his time pointing out how someone put out the garbage too early, or didnt bring in the trash can quick enough...or didnt rake up the leaves. as you said, always itching for the chance to point out someone elses mistake.

16 points · 1 month ago

That would make me itch to point out every one of his mistakes. Nobody's perfect; he's bound to be making a few.

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74 points · 1 month ago

Heaven forbid you have a job or other engagement that prevents you from being home at that exact hour...

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180 points · 1 month ago

Before we got underground containers in my city in the Netherlands I only could put out the trash between 18-19. And I sure would report bag if they were put out outside that window (but that was necessity because otherwise gulls would tip open the bags and turn the street into a disgusting dump)

59 points · 1 month ago

What's an underground container.

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72 points · 1 month ago

Perfect demostration. One, great way to show the effectiveness of the contraption. Two, perfect example why children shouldn't be completely left alone.

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RIP Boba Fett

So did the Dianoga get him or what?

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The pics are the same ):

24 points · 1 month ago

So each resident has one of these or there is a neighborhood one where everyone dumps their trash? Does it get emptied by a machine weekly or does it move trash through the city like a trash pipeline? So many questions

A neighborhood shares, the are emptied on a need to empty schedule

7 points · 1 month ago

Is there a separate one for yard debris, recycling, and trash or is there no need to separate debris?

Yard debris and renovation stuff have to be brought the municipal "dump" where it will be recycled.

However plastic or food package will be collected for free when they put in special begs that are free to get from your friendly neighbor supermarket.

Paper will also be collected for free (at most of the time) and foodwaste (like meat and vegatables) are sometimes collected seperatly for free or a low price.

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gulls

This didn't make sense before remembering that your country is in the fucking ocean.

All countries are in the ocean

32 points · 1 month ago

Whoa

No, no, not IN the ocean. INSIDE the ocean.

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5 points · 1 month ago

We had similar issues with polar bears in aasiat greenland, food waste were not to be left out, baiting the 400kg bear is a bad, bad idea.

Once a bear got too used to town and had to be shot when he started trying to get into houses, the whole nightmare took place over a month, no children or teens were allowed to stray despite the usual lack of boundaries.

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Swiss here. This is not correct. Trash must be placed outside between 7:00 am and 7:02 am.

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I'm in US and we lived somewhere with those rules, also. Could get fined for putting it out too early.

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13 points · 1 month ago

Mother. Fucking. Swiss. #MFS

8 points · 1 month ago

What is this story? I'm from the french speaking part of the country and I'm basically throwing my trash anytime of the night or the day without anybody giving a fuck.

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Aren't the Swiss also superstrict with their hypercomplicated trash bag system?

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If you live in Switzerland, you put your trash out on the curb between 7 a.m. and 7:05 a.m.

It depends where you live. In a skyscraper you will have containers outside for disposal, while those living in "normal buidings up to say 6 families" have to put them outside at the curb.

In our case it was bad practice to take out the garbage one day before (for obvious reasons). But ive never encountered this "narrow windows" pedantry among neighbors or trash-truck-drivers in Ostschweiz (btw best part of the Schwiiz).

We put our garbage at 6am, where usually among the firsts. In retrospect, it´s kinda gross to have all the garbage bags of 6 families laying there for the truck to pick them up. I think in our region, we were only allowed to take out our garbage every mondays and if we had 2 bags or more .. we had to put them on the balcony until the next truck came.

Once we had few parties, too much food and what not during a week. We had like 5 or more bags easily to throw out ... and we didnt want to wait til next monday ... so we drove around with 5 shit bags until we found a street where they didnt had picked up yet.

We dropped them off ... few days later someone showed up at our apartment ... with a ticket to pay. Someone from that street either saw us and called 911 ;=) or i guess it´s usus in Switzerland to dig thru garbage bags in general for address and what not. They found some old bills we had, ... 5 shit bags disposed at wrong street = ticket of i beileve CH500 or so ...

Now its normal to see containers "built in" the concrete/underground. One for each type of garbage ... much better but the "law" still applies. Only dispose your shit during morinings, certain things only during certain days (old electro items).

I much prefer our local system where you can put out as many bags as you want as long as you're willing to put a sticker on each bag and pay an additional (fairly modest) fee. Hate places that completely limit the amount you put out.

Although we do require the trash to be binned for obvious reasons. (wildlife are not stopped by thin plastic!)

I prefer our local system where I can put a couch and TV on the street and it's gone to the dump the next day for no charge.

Or appliances. Replaced a water heater? Someone will pick up your old one by morning.

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What are those obvious reasons? In germany you have your own bins and sure as fuck we put those out the evening before.

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every nice place in the world has some anal nazi bitch organization regulating it.

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379 points · 1 month ago

Had a neighbor who was a fireman who would constantly cut his grass at 3AM. Would still be cutting at 630 when I left for work. Was OCD about his lawn, but a nice guy. Never really bothered me and would always trim and edge my lawn. I hate trimming and I don't own a gas powered edger due to $$$ so I thought it was a good trade off. However, looking back on the edging I'm pretty sure he did it just because he didn't want an un-edged portion up next to his property and wanted it all uniform.

I don't care how bright your outdoor lights are, that seems like an impossible task.

Clearly you’ve never had the pleasure of using a lawn mower with headlights.

I have, and honestly they don't do much. Especially for your side view.

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3am? I don't care what he does for a living. Fuck that guy.

People like him are the reason these laws get started.

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31 points · 1 month ago

He probably meant Vampire.

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321 points · 1 month ago

Are scythes acceptable, then?

only if it's silenced

What about goats?

unfortunately they only mow suppressed

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No excessive mehing out of permitted hours.

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Church bells won't ring at those times either?

517 points · 1 month ago

No, church bells definitely still ring.they really make a hangover the tops.

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Mowing my lawn is my religion. If you tell me different, I'll see you in court.

Why would anyone do drugs when they could just mow a lawn?

Haha, I do drugs WHILE i mow my lawn. Checkmate Hank Hill!

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Won't work.

Religions have to be recognized by the state.

Yeah in Europe that shit doesn’t fly. You can’t just claim something is a religion and get away with it.

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No joke, I love me a good scything video. Shit is calming.

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94 points · 1 month ago

They do on sundays and on holidays, not really during night time

The loud noises aren't allowed because of the christian tradition/rule to rest on sundays. The churches are allowed to make noise at those times

So are Muslims allowed their big fuckoff loudspeakers for the five daily prayers?

I‘m from Germany. In my hometown, they built a mosque. The „tower“ is 1 meter lower than the closest church. The are allowed with the loudspeakers on fridays, but don‘t use it, to not screw with the neighbours.

Yes. But the volume is defined. Also, in some cities there are conflicts about it.

really? i lived near a mosque and i never heard it

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God I wish. Forget what city we were in but we were staying in a local hotel right by the Altstadt and this big ass church. It was late spring early summer and with no AC of course we were sleeping with the windows open. 6:15 am rolls around and the loudest goddamn church bells I’ve ever heard start ringing from across the street and seemingly keep ringing every 15 minutes throughout the morning.

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236 points · 1 month ago

Is it the mowing or the noise that's illegal?

Here we had a noise ordinance. But I have a reel mower. So I cut before 7AM (as this is Florida and by 7 AM it's already hot) and don't get out noisy weed whacker until after 7 AM.

243 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

The noise. Using a push mower would be fine.

EDIT: Reel mower, not push. The motor mowers I've used are self-propelling, so I think of the non-motor variety as push ones.

61 points · 1 month ago

How about a sythe?

That would also be okay! But kind of difficult.

Nah you just need to put some extra room on the arms of your cloak for maximum rotation. The good keeps you from getting sunburned too.

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Using a reel mower is far from fine, if you actually want to cut the lawn in any appreciable fashion.

22 points · 1 month ago

I agree it does a lousy job.

Everything has to be at the perfect height. Taller than that and all it does is bend it over.

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... I never had a problem with my reel mower when I had a lawn. It was actually pretty great. What exactly is wrong with them, in your opinion?

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What surprises me is that Germany enforces these rules. Many American (and Canadian) towns have noise by-laws, but good luck getting city officials to enforce them.

I think it’s partially a cultural thing, (many) Germans just like regulations and a clear set of rules... But there is also the aspect of noise as a real health threat and that’s really the motivation behind most of these laws. Btw it’s not a criminal offence but an 'Ordnungswidrigkeit' (don’t really know a proper translation for that) or just something the authorities will for example consider when deciding wether they will allow a building or not ('Baugenehmigung')

57 points · 1 month ago

As a German: If you make loud noises on a Sunday for longer periods of time, I'll be majorly annoyed but won't do shit. If you make loud noises past 10pm on a weekday, I'll call the police.

Me and my roommate got 2 students thrown out of our apartment building for continuesly partying on Wednesdays and Thursdays late at night. I have to get up at 5:30AM and won't tolerate that shit.

Man, I feel you - once or twice, ey, I’ll be pretty annoyed but stay quiet just because I would feel too spießig doing anything 'bout it. Beyond that I will raise fucking hell to bring down those noisy pricks. It’s especially bad on Thursday here, because most students don’t have any lectures on Friday and - I guess - just forget that some people (and other students) still have to work...

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Do you guys have a principle where you will talk directly to the offenders once before calling the cops?

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How many Americans in Germany have lawns?

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Noise ordinances are typically handled by local municipalities in the U.S.

No loud noises before 7AM weekdays or before 9AM on weekends.

Sundays and holidays aren't special for the most part.

65 points · 1 month ago

Hell, holidays are louder because people are having parties and get togethers.

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When we lived in Germany, my ex and I came home at 3 am Saturday drunker than I have ever been or ever will be again. We had to wake our landlord up because the MPs took our car (and house) keys. He laughed and laughed. But when it snowed on Christmas day and one of our friends got mud on the concrete steps outside he went absolutely ballistic. Little cultural differences are part of the fun of living overseas.

Edits: grammar

What does MP mean in this context? Because I'd love to know why your local member of parliament took your keys.

49 points · 1 month ago

Military Police. Basically, a lot of American soldiers and their dependents are based in Germany and the military police are security guards as well as police for the bases.

We were off base and lived in Heddesheim. Our apartment was just above the landlord's house.

I think the Military Police saw us pulled over by the side of the road. They stopped to see if we were okay and realized we were insanely drunk so they took our keys instead of informing the Polizei. I have no idea how we got home.

Never again would I ask for "ein sehr grosser wein, bitte."

I loved living in Europe, it is a beautiful place full of history and incredible works of art. People were very kind to me and helpful even when I slaughtered their language. Our landlords had us over for dinner the night after we turned in the keys in preparation for returning to the States, which I understand is a high honor. By then I knew enough to bring wine and flowers.

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No noise on holidays? That's like a requirement to celebrate the 4th of July.

Yeah, only exception is New Year where you can be as loud as you want because nobody will hear you anyways over all the fireworks..

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They call it the Anti-Dad Law

775 points · 1 month ago

Americans everywhere frequently get into trouble

As an Australian that used to work in a hotel we used to forgive every form of dickish behavior by Americans. No one tips in Australia so having guests from a nation with a tipping culture was a treat. Some of them had read the tourist guides that told them tipping wasn't necessary in Australia but 80% of them use to slip the person helping a bit of money, some of them far more than was expected.

On the opposite end, I get a lot of tourists at my job. It's not a position that really gets tipped in usual practice. Occasionally I'll get a bachelor party from out of state with a $800 bill and they'll hand me a $20 before they leave, which is greatly appreciated. Sometimes I'll get a group of 25 people who's bill comes out to $2800 and I get nothing. I don't really expect it so it doesn't bother me.

Anyway, one time I had these six Australians come in, and I think they were under the impression that every service type job was expected to be tipped like a waiter. Well these guys all pulled out pretty much all of their cash and tipped me almost $80 and had this look of "is this enough?" on their faces. Tipping is weird.

68 points · 1 month ago

Yes, I used to tip in Italy when I got my gas pumped and they always looked stunned. I am from a culture that tips, and 98% of us pump our own gas, match made in heaven.....I enjoyed reading your perspective.

I remember a gas station my parents used to go to when I was about 10 or 12 (I'm now early 40's). My parents used to go there because it was the only place that pumped your petrol anywhere in the area. They used to be like broken records telling me and my sister that all petrol stations used to pump the petrol for you...and check your oil...and your tyres…. and your windscreen wiper fluid levels. It turned into a family joke where my parents were happy to pay a little extra to have me and my sister groan as they told the story again as the car was being filled with petrol....and having the oil checked... and the tyres checked...

My uncle owned gas stations in Florida in the late 1990s. My job was to pump gas, check tire pressure, clean windows, and offer to check oil at self serve pumps.

Customers loved it. Gas prices were the exact same as other nearby stations.

I pulled in close to $20 an hour in tips, hourly wages, and commission on sales. 40k a year squeegeeing car windows and hustling.

Not bad money for a college kid.

Yea maybe then I'd tip, but are you even supposed to tip a gas station attendant that just fills your tank? Don't have all full in PA anyhow so very rarely get it unless in NJ.

You're not supposed to tip in NJ I'm pretty sure

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Tipping in Italy was a good way to get 6/5 star service when I was there.

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I suspect many of them did read the tourist guides, but tipping is such an ingrained part of our culture that a lot of people feel like a cheap bastard if they don't tip. I hope there Comes a Day in our culture where servers are paid a living wage, where tipping is abolished, and where restaurateurs do not balance their budgets on the backs of their employees.

Lol, I've worked in a few restaurants and plenty of other jobs in the service industry. Waiters don't want to see tipping go away. They make more than most unskilled workers and a lot of that income is hard to tax because it's under the table. Even with debit and credit cards becoming the norm for businesses, a huge chunk of their income is unaccounted for. The only thing that sucks is it's hard to tell how much you'll make table to table. You could get an asshole, or someone who's incredibly cheap, or someone who's incredibly cheap and uses the whole "protesting against tipping" as an excuse, lol. For the most part though it benefits them as well as the restaurant because the owners can advertise their prices as cheaper than they really are and use societal pressure to make you pay extra and the waiter gets to take home a bigger cheque without having to give as big a portion of it away to the tax man.

"I give Jesus 10%, why would I give you more"- Sunday crowds

"Fine, I'd be happy with 5% of your income." - should be servers' response

Failed argument because that's 10% of your whole income, not of what the meal was. Of course I'm not giving a server $1ks

They think they're clever with that remark, but yet do fail to realize it's based on whole income. I'm in the south...not many of the arguments are the most intelligent. You just laugh a little and continue what you're doing, or be an ass by telling them and get nothing. Maybe they'll think about it?

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I’ve worked as a hostess in a cigar lounge. I got paid a livable wage along with under the table tips. Some nights I made $500+ in tips. Doesn’t matter if we get paid a decent amount in wages since not as many people will do it unless there is incentive in dealing with guests.

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Homie I make 30/hour off of tips, please don't give me a "livable wage" instead.

This past month I've made $2100 in tips as a bus driver, on top of my regular "liveable" wage. It's a nice bonus that's letting me kill my student loans a bit faster than normal.

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I used to deliver pizza. I’ve gotten a better job since, but I vastly preferred the tipping system compared to a flat wage. With tips, the harder and quicker I worked, the more money I earned. If I busted my ass and took five runs an hour, I made a lot more than the lazy guy who chills in his car on his phone for a few minutes between deliveries, and ends up taking two runs an hour. If we were both making a flat wage, we would be earning the same money. It would disincentive hard work, and everybody’s pizzas would be late.

15 points · 1 month ago

This is why the system kind of works. If you're not willing to hustle like a pimp, dont expect cash young bloods.

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This happened to me when I was in the 5th grade. My family moved to Germany that year when my father took and engineering position. I was mowing the lawn before lunch and a very angry German man that wasn’t much taller than me began screaming and came into the yard. He left very quickly when my dad came out with a baseball bat. My dad is 6 3 and has been fit most of his life. I just remember the man leaving abruptly and myself being very scared and confused. We found out later from our neighbor about the rule.
My parents went to the mans house to apologize and explain. He was still angry and said we should have known.

Side story to shed light on German culture. I road my bike to school and one day hit a rock under some grass clippings. Messed my face up, and was late because I went home to get patched up. The teacher accepted my explanation but still reprimanded me. I will never forget him telling me I shouldn’t have rode over the grass if I didn’t know what was underneath, and that no matter what it was my fault I was late.

I spent almost four years in an actual German school in Heidelberg, and I firmly believe my punctuality and lack of sympathy for failure to complete simple tasks is a direct result of it.

Edit. The discussion around all this is getting out of hand. Further explanation. We had just moved there. And we’re still getting used to being the outsiders. Most people have no idea what it’s like to move to another state, country, or even continent. What to my father was an appropriate reaction, would be over aggressive to others. We learned eventually and respected German customs and etiquette. There is always a raised level of fear in new situations so my father probably felt extra concern. Also I played baseball in the back yard, and even played on a German team. There are plenty of baseball bats in Germany. Stop pretending it was this crazy out of place item to have. My parents felt strongly enough about this to go to his house and explain. This guy turned out to be a person who caused trouble all over that nobody liked.
I have lived in multiple countries under various circumstances, and spent time in most of the countries in the EU. I can’t think of a single culture I have ever experienced where it was considered acceptable to yell at a child outside a teaching environment. One where a parent wouldn’t be concerned. Simple conversation should have cleared it all up in the end. But he decided to be a butt. He turned out to even yell at me when it was legal to mow. He wasn’t some feeble old harmless man yelling at kids on his lawn. He was a grown adult yelling aggressively at kids on THEIR lawn. Trespassing on locked peppery. No matter what this story was funny. Somehow the internet turned into a debate on home intrusion. Thanks for ruining my memory with a fucking stupid debate about an obviously stupid misunderstanding that should have been easily cleared up.
This is the problem when cultures meet though. Sometimes one side isn’t willing to budge at all and you end up with conflict. Communicate people.
Don’t be so stuck in your ways that you can’t resolve and understand. Fuck.

While Germans are pretty serious about punctuality your teacher still was an asshole. In my school at least, if you came late with a bruised face you wouldn't be punished by any teacher, they all would understand.

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37 points · 1 month ago

My American teachers would've reacted the same way tbh, there were very few acceptable excuses for being late

Ah, the joys of being raised by teachers. My excuse was always "I have a signed pass" and they hated it but could never do anything about it because my parents always signed.

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My 1st period teacher senior year tried to give me a detention on the first day I got back from knee surgery. I was on crutches and had to park 5 blocks away because there is no student parking, and my city decided it needs to street sweep all the residential streets every week.

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He was still angry and said we should have known.

Eff him. He should know to tell you POLITELY the first time or so and not ever be violent about a freaking noise ordinance!!!

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Can you image if this was the law in America? People would be constantly fuming about how religion is ruling the country and that they deserve to do as they please on Sunday.

39 points · 1 month ago

In a similar vein, in Germany speed cameras and hidden. In the UK they are yellow and signposted. In the UK they tried hiding them and they were broken. Germans seem ok with lots of rules about everything.

26 points · 1 month ago

I was in a German airport with a bunch of American kids. They were just hanging out waiting to board. A German guy comes up and loudly says, "Two lines. You must be in two lines." The kids were like "huh?"

14 points · 1 month ago

Yeah Ryanair baggage checks in Germany are fun. Once saw them insisting that a guy store the book he bought in the airport in his carry on - it was a thick hardback. He was clearly reading it at the time as well.

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People would be constantly fuming about how religion is ruling the country and that they deserve to do as they please on Sunday.

They'd be right to do so, in this hypothetical scenario.

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248 points · 1 month ago

German here: Yes, there are quiet hours, but in the big cities nobody cares. When youre living outside of those ("auf dem Land", no idea how it is called in english) this is indeed a thing. but its not like your neighbour will come with a gun pointed at you (ok, most germans dont have guns lol) and almost nobody will call the police or anything if you sometimes dont respect the quiet hours. If you do it like everyday, the you could get a problem. Sometimes there are sort of fights between neighbours that hate each other. They try to piss of the other. Pretty funny when you think about it, because they plan their own life just to fuck somebody else up. If your living next to those toxic people its not fun though. I hate waking up every saturday at 7:01 am because somebody is mowing their lawns or is doing something else really loud in his garden.

I hate waking up every saturday at 7:01 am because somebody is mowing their lawns or is doing something else really loud in his garden.

7:00?? Are you just going to sleep your life away?

Signed,

Old Guys Everywhere.

My dad: Why do you sleep in so late? If you were awake earlier I'd put you to work doing chores around the house.
Me: Didn't you just answer your own question?

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So uh, since you're German, I have a question. Assuming you go to work when it's not a holiday or a weekend, when do you mow your lawns? Us Americans mow on weekends and holidays because that's when we're off work and have free time to work in the yard. A standard suburban plot around here is about a quarter acre(looks like that's about 1k square meters for you guys), and it takes about an hour and a half to mow front, back and side, handle the bags(that's the other thing - you can't mow too far ahead of pickup day, because that shit gets ripe in 35C), and get the mower packed away. After work isn't really an option most days, because you get home from work at 6:30-7:30, eat dinner and clean up, and now you've only got about 30-60 minutes of daylight left to work outside.

44 points · 1 month ago

Another German here. You mow the lawn on Saturdays. You're only not allowed to make a ruckus on Sundays.

20 points · 1 month ago

It's funny how many European countries have these Sabbath holdovers even as they have become less religious than the US. In the rural US mowing the lawn on the weekends, during the summer, is pretty much a tradition.

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1st, 1 km2 would be fucking huge over here. If you have so much space, i would assume all the neighbour houses are so far away that they arent interested in you mowing your lawn. Do you mow with a tracker like vehicle? Here we use lawnmowers which you push in front of you. Mostly electric or with benzin motor. For some people the grass in there Garden is an art.

2nd, Mowing on saturday is fine, but why you have to do it before 10am? i work 40 hours per week, monday to thursday 7 am to 4 pm and fridays 6 to 1. I could spread my work flexible every day, but with this rhythm i can do things after work. If your coming late home like 9 pm you are right, those persons only have a pretty close time window where they could mow. Unsurprising those arent the people mowing in unreasonable times.

why you have to do it before 10am?

I live in Texas and right now it's pretty much a necessity to do it before 10am, or else it's just too damn hot. In better weather, though, I agree that it's not needed to do it before 10am.

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No, you misunderstood me, sorry. It's not a km by km plot, it's only about 32 by 32 meters. 1k square meters all together, not 1k meters to a side. For the most part, we use gas-powered push mowers. Older people, those with disabilities, and those with more land sometimes use riding mowers. They're not unusually rare by any means, even in the suburbs, but when you think "mower" a gas-powered push mower is what comes to mind. Those are still pretty loud!

Work hours here are usually 8-5 M-F, and then you have a commute(usually 30-90 minutes one-way, depending on what traffic you have to sit in) before you get home. People usually mow early in the morning or in the evening, because of the heat. I can't speak for up north, but in the midatlantic region it's just too damn hot(sticky, humid hot too, not a dry heat) to work outside from about 10 am-5 pm. Highs of 35-38C are normal around here in July-Aug, and it gets even hotter further south. You either need to get out there early before things heat up, or wait until things start to cool off in the evening.

I did misunderstand you because you complained about Saturday, I thought you were saying it was the entire weekend that it wasn't allowed. Maybe your weather permits afternoon mowing on Saturday. My guess is, the Americans just aren't used to it, because our weather has trained us to go do the yardwork first thing in the morning before it gets too hot to work outside, leaving the evening free to go do weekend activities like seeing a movie or going to a party.

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Living in big city in germany, and I fucking DO care if you are loud between 22 and 7. Because of the close living quaters, it is ESSENTIAL that you shut the fuck up after 22 and before 7. I will ring your bell, and I will overly-politely (passive aggressive level 9) inform you that you are being loud.

Richtig so.

29 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

I don't know in what Germany that dude lives but in my country we quite the fuck down during Ruhezeit. My grandma taught me that when I was little and damn me as if I would dishonour that memory.

So sehe ich das auch, ganz ehrlich...

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When youre living outside of those ("auf dem Land", no idea how it is called in english)

In the suburbs? The country?

Also, when do people mow their lawns over there? It sounds like there's no time when they're not at work that they're allowed to make nose!

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19 points · 1 month ago

In America, apartment dwellers have to contend with leaf blowers.

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53 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

outside of the city would be called the "suburbs"

edit- my bad. someone told me that the phrase you used means "rural" so in america at least, we would call that the "country" or "countryside"

double edit- apparently another redditor says that german rural is relatively equivalent to american suburbs. so i just dont know what to believe anymore lol

"auf dem Land" = rural

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Unless you are a heidelberg bar owner. Then you can have 10000 decibel parties 24/7/365 and the council pretends it's impossible to control...

Yet you can't drive over 100 on the autobahn because Lärmschutz. Fuck Heidelberg.

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TIL that this law is not as common as i thought it was. (something similar exists in austria too)

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108 points · 1 month ago

You can have luxuries like that when everybody gets a reasonable amount of time off work. In the US (or Canada for that matter) a lot of people can only get that kind of work done on Sundays or holidays.

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24 points · 1 month ago

Specifically Americans yes.... or maybe every immigrant that doesn't have such punishable offences at home.

Ive had Americans visit me in the Netherlands for the job i do and nearly all of them were shocked to see ''nothing was ever open'' and how our towns were basically ''dead'' on sundays haha.

Ive been to the US too and to several other places. The US does stand out in term of ''always being alive'', and not even just the big cities, also smaller ones. 24/7 shops dont exist in the netherlands generally with few exceptions in cities like Amsterdam, but only in the city center in then mostly. On sundays most supermarkets are closed, some are open from 10 to like 6 and you can forget about visiting a clothing or electronics store or similiar at sundays 20.00 in a average city. Thats unheard of for American standards.

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So a working religious Jew is practically forbidden from mowing their lawn before 7AM on any given day.

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Weird, I live in Germany and Sundays are my worst days for sleep kuz all the kids are running around screaming at 8am...

Kids are not considered noise

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