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609 points · 6 months ago

As someone who thinks Trump is a complete moron, I think displaying signs that say "Kill Trump" are going about this the wrong way..

What do you mean? They're protesting against fascism by encouraging the murder of a democratically elected president.

In a country where the people have no say by ballot or force as to who the US president is. Are you implying this wasn't well thought out?

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this is good for BitTrump

Well there is already [this] (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/trumpcoin)

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In a country where the people have no say by ballot or force as to who the US president is.

That applies to every single country on earth.

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3 points · 6 months ago

What?

Including ... the United States?

It seems.

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Hey, if they want they can petition to become a U.S. state and join us in our pursuit of glorious leaders through voting... Lol. :(

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I believe you were expecting a /s where the op was a bit more ambiguous.

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44 points · 6 months ago

encouraging the murder of a democratically elected president

The Americans call that "regime change" and "democracy movement".

Ah, so you mean they are copying the worst of the USA. Good stuff, protesters.

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1 point · 6 months ago

Well, to be fair, we also want Putin dead.

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14 points · 6 months ago

Ahhh so they are using techniques taken from American foreign policy then

No, I have it on good authority from people who have all the evidence and will release it any day now that Drumpf colluded with Putin to hack the election, therefore he is not the legitimate president.

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So I'm used to democracy, Americans are used to the illusion of democracy

The perception of democracy is relative. I'm used to direct democracy, the rest of Europeans are used to the illusion of democracy. /s

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Can you explain how the electoral college is gerrymandered? Can you explain how a 2 party system isn’t democratic?

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-1 points · 6 months ago

democratically elected

If you say so.

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The real doom won't be Trump. It will be everyone thinking it's ok to act like he does.

9 points · 6 months ago

Trump is an idiot, but the real problem is congress. They can do whatever they want and he'll rubber stamp it. He's supposed to be the check and balance on the retarded shit they're doing.

The real doom won't be Trump. It will be everyone thinking it's ok to act like he does.

The lowering of the bar and the anaestheism of outrage. What America would really benefit from now is a movement that demands better. It needs a groundswell that says we're not tolerating this appallingly low standard of expectation from our leaders any longer. #notgoodenough

Trump 2.0 and a 'continuity Trump' movement are the medium term threats

America is at crossroads (doesn't it always seem to be?) but it isn't clear to me if Trump is the final flash in the tail of a dying dinosaur or the latest stop on a line which has been drifting ever further into the extremes of right wing orthodoxy for about four decades now. If America can't arrest this momentum within the next few cycles then its going to become some sort of elected fascist state by the mid 2030's as that has been the direction of travel for some time and she remains on track

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Got to admit things are going preeeetty good here in the US since him becoming POTUS..

Happily surprised

Only if you ignore the FCC destroying net neutrality, the travel ban, jeff sessions attaking marjunia, and the terrible tax bill, etc.

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FCC destroying net neutrality.

So name something objectively negative that is happening right now.

the travel ban

Source on the negative impacts please.

jeff sessions attaking marjunia

So Jeff sessions is enforcing federal law, isn't that his job. Maybe you should just be mad at congress, that seems more reasonable than being mad at someone for doing his job.

and the terrible tax bill

source on the current negatives taking place in our country please.

Edit: and on a personal level, my family is middle blue collar and within a month from the election we were positively impacted by Trump being elected. The stock of the company my dad works for,which is an American manufacturer, has seen great gains because Trump was elected. My portfolio is doing awesome, although I do not know what it would be like under Clinton, I really wouldn't risk going back.

How was your portfolio under Obama?

Also gonna chime in, seen a $12,000 increase in 2018 alone.

Exciting as shit.

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Why are you getting upvoted? The stock market has been undeniably better under Trump?

Huh? It was just a question. I'm not trying to be contrarian, if that's what you're thinking.

I've seen some really good gains (%100 and up, which I don't credit Obama with) for the past few years but I'm weighted towards tech and pharma and not American manufacturing, so I wanted to know what other people's experiences are like.

Depending on the timeline, whether or not the market has been "undeniably better" is an open question.

We're overdue for a correction, anyway. I'm sure Trump's policies have contributed to real growth but that's probably dwarfed by the size of the asset bubble that's been growing for the past 8 years.

Pretty fair assessment. Personally, yes my finances have been great in the last year. My family is blue collar and has benefited greatly. The company my dad works for stock went up 20% within the first few months which was quite a lot of money for someone who has been given stock by his company for the past few decades. I was more so talking about s&p 500, DOW, and nasdaq. 40% in 14 months is actually insane. I gave someone the challenge ITT to take any 14 consecutive months in Obama's presidency and convince me that the economy had better gains than the last 14. I am very interested to see what happens to the economy and deficit in the next several years, also the asset bubble of course.

I thought you were being contrarian. I am just annoyed that anything pro Trump is downvoted and anything pro Obama is upvoted. My profile was not nearly this good under Obama, as my profile is mostly s&p 500.

From March 2009 to April 2010 the S & P was up over 80%. I did very well during the Obama years.

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Not bad but neither mine nor my dad's was as good, or the S&P 500.

So name something objectively negative that is happening right now.

http://beta.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-fcc-net-neutrality-vote-20171212-story.html

the travel ban

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/10/21/a-foolish-take-the-us-tourism-slump/106719412/

So Jeff sessions is enforcing federal law, isn't that his job. Maybe you should just be mad at congress, that seems more reasonable than being mad at someone for doing his job.

Yes, enforcing federal law that has been proven time and time again that it is insane.

source on the current negatives taking place in our country please.

http://fortune.com/2017/12/27/property-tax-prepay-income/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gop-tax-overhaul-causes-confusion-for-taxpayers/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/business/economy/tax-bill-new-york.html

That literally took me 3 min.

http://beta.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-fcc-net-neutrality-vote-20171212-story.html

His bill went up 20% and he has no competitors to choose from. Is that a problem with net neutrality or monopolies instead?

8 points · 6 months ago

Well you'd have a point if the US gov was actually doing anything to stop the monopolies and anti-competition going on between ISPs.

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The travel ban was a good thing though.. I'm confused is this list supposed to arouse me?

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4 points · 6 months ago

There's alot I agree with you on, but I'm going to point this one out.

4) You're a millennial that probably doesn't pay taxes, so try again. The standard deduction got doubled, so its going to save most working people money (not you).

You do realize most Millennials are actually 25-35, right? Most of us (32 here) are working full time jobs and paying taxes. 30% of my income gets yanked out, so I was excited for the idea of the standard deduction doubling - but with the tax rate going up for education, healthcare deductions, and all the little shit like that, my generation is about to get royally fucked. My student loan payment is equal to a new car payment - and before you say "well maybe you shouldn't have gotten an education", growing up it was hammered into my head by everyone around me, republican and democrat alike, that getting a degree was the only way I'd have a future.

Most people will not save money on this in the long run. Only people with really high salaries will, others will have to pay more if it stays for like 5-10 years. On top of that it will create a huge hole in the state budget. How is that a good thing.

In WWII Jews sailed over the Atlantic to escape the nazis. At the amarican border they were turned away. Was that okay? Well, today history is repeating itself. I don't know what "right" anyone has to anything but when people are at risk I won't blame them for trying to escape that.

12 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

So your whole argument is, "well nothing has happened yet".

Also, as a millennial who pays taxes, I'm getting screwed on this bill. So try again.

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It's not really any different than when Obama was president except internationally we lost respect

Uh, the economy is much better now than at any time under Obama

26 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

That is not really any level of accurate if you watched the unemployment rates, gdp, stock market, avg housing price or median wage from 2008 to 2016. If you isolate the election year for 2016 in which there was mass market uncertainty then I guess you could make such a misleading claim. That said, most of what makes a good economy is stability which the Obama administration provided in spades so if Trump is able to maintain this trajectory throughout his tenure then I'll go ahead and give him credit for outdoing Obama on this front.

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14 points · 6 months ago

Exactly this. Economies do not immediately change course, it takes a few years. Late in Trump's first term will start to show the changes he has made to our economy. The current tax break that largely benefits corporations does not bode well.

Tbf, a recovery was a given, considering that the Federal Reserve was already committed to pumping in trillions of dollars to save the banks. Also, the US stock market has been in a 100+yr bull run. A major pullback is an obvious buy to collect undervalued stocks. Even I knew that as a high school student in 2009. I did expect the recovery to be better and more robust, but Obama wasn't very friendly towards small business so reinvesting capital wasn't happening as much and that showed with the lackluster recovery. Regardless, I used up all the money I saved buying up cheap stocks. The only thing in the stock market I would credit Obama with is in healthcare. Before the ACA passed, I changed my portfolio to heavily weight the health care sector bc I knew that the ACA was going to be a profit machine for the insurance industry (it mandated new customers up to 350M, but did nothing to address health insurance monopolies, & included a clause that ensured that lost profits would be paid by the US govt) and I was right, as soon as the bill passed in Congress, every insurance company stock increased by double digits in one day. With Trump, I bought up manufacturing and tech, along with chip manufacturers due to crypto mining... this one year rivals the previous 8yrs, mostly because I lost gains with the mini-recession in 2015/2016. Your giving Obama credit for the recovery when it was really the Federal Reserve. If he promoted pro-small business policies, I believe the economy & unemployment could have been much better.

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Yep. My 401k and portfolio are amazing, projected to pay about 4K less in federal taxes, illegal immigration is at a low, unemployment is incredibly low, African American unemployment at record low levels and I have enough salt in my pantry from the violent left on this website to last a lifetime.

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dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years

Unemployment rate

It seems really strange to give Trump credit for this.

4K less in federal taxes,

And unless you're in the top 0.1% those taxes are going to go back up in 5 years. The only ones who get to keep those tax breaks are the ultra wealthy.

I have enough salt in my pantry from the violent left on this website to last a lifetime.

Unfortunately, this is the maturity level we've come to expect.

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You'll pay more in taxes in the next decade. You are paying for your own bonus from your future wages. Trump isn't giving you free money because he's a kind fellow. Your unemployment will shoot up once expected major industry shifts take place.

He's doing stuff that's good for you, now. Not a fan of this shithole stuff, bit juvenile imo to latch onto some words said behind closed doors. But he's by no means looking at the future of your country.

You'll pay more in taxes in the next decade.

Thanks to the democratic senators who were unwilling to make it permanent. But I'm confident they'll sign it into law IF they end up taking back Congress.... they don't want to be known as the party who raised taxes on the lower 90%

He's doing stuff that's good for you, now.

OH NO THE HORROR!!!!

Not a fan of this shithole stuff

We were talking about the actual effects on our taxes, which matters most to Americans then peoples inability to recognize that Haiti/Africa/El Salvador are collective shitholes.

OH NO THE HORROR!!!!

I mean ten/twenty/thirty years later when theres a democrat in power struggling to compete against the new industrial powerhouses of the future due to things trump did today, who will you be blaming?

If its good for someone its good. But we should recognise what exactly it is. Some parts of the tax cut are not bad. Some are just you paying your own bonus from your future wages which is...I mean its your own money. Trump's giving you your own money. You decide whether that makes him good or bad. Other parts of the tax cut are hard to judge right now. People are blaming Trump for making the rich richer. Lets see how that pans out before blaming anybody.

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1 point · 6 months ago

I'll probably be an old asshole blaming whoever the news tells me up blame.

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I'm not happy with him being president and I really dislike this new tax bill and the threats to medicaid, but yeah, things could be a lot worse and I am glad they are not.

I luv the new tax bill. Found out I’m getting a bonus due to the surplus in profits due to the lowered tax rate to go along with the already more I’m keeping due to my tax being lowered

-14 points · 6 months ago(More than 166 children)

By everyone else you mean the 14% of Americans paying higher taxes, specifically those making over $400,000 per year, or those who so heavily purchased real estate that renters were financing their tax deductions well past even double the standard deduction?

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Who is everyone else? Employment at an all time high. Median income at its highest ever. Consumer confidence is at its highest in quite sometime..

Who is everyone else??

All of these things you listed are trends started by Obama.

And continued to improve under trump at a much better rate..

Thanks none the less. I did realize anyone was making the argument that wasn’t the case with obama

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Source?

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Take a look at any other metric if you like. Trump gets credit for not ruining the ongoing trend, but so far that's it

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Me too but I'm more worried about a possible cheese embargo. I love Swiss cheese a lot.

Original Poster4 points · 6 months ago

Doesn't everyone? Casein (which is found in cheese) is addictive.

AHH that expains everything!

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Mit eigenen Waffen schlagen would be very normal in German:

Defeat with his own weapons, I don’t know where “kill” comes from. It could still be they just looked up “schlagen” in English and got “kill” as a synonym. Doesn’t sound tooo far fetched

EDIT: strike that, I think the button symbolises nuclear weapons, so I think they are just idiots who want to kill a single person with a nuclear warhead

I'm french but the sign shows a red button wich implies nuke (there's even the nuke symbol on it), so they are actually implying that we should nuke Trump (or the US ?), it's even worse

I wonder if you hadn't prefaced your statement with "as someone who thinks Trump is a complete moron" if you would have received 1/3 of the upvotes you did.

they display "kill Trump with his own weapons"

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I agree but this isn't Syria. When the Swiss are holding a sign like that, it's kinda scary.

What does the rest of that sign say? Or are we just going to behave the same way as trump and only reference what interests us?

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204 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

Actual headline:

Due to Trump's attendance, the annual demo against the World Economic Forum mobilized a larger (but still very small) crowd.

You think I would make it big in the journalism world?

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Fun fact: this is the first visit of a US president to Switzerland since Bill Clinton's attendance in 2000.

I thought US presidents regularly go to Davos...

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you will go far

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330 points · 6 months ago

Some were clad in black and carried placards saying “No future for capitalism”, “Eat the rich” and “Kill Trump”, also setting off flares.

This will surely bring moderates to their side.

Some were clad in black and carried placards saying “No future for capitalism”, “Eat the rich”

In a country even more capitalist than the USA, where there are banks whose sole existence is to hide people's wealth

lol.

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“Kill Trump”

Is that legal?

44 points · 6 months ago

Probably not.

The same happened at an anti-Erdogan protest. Created quite some drama with the Turkish government and a criminal investigation was opened in Switzerland.

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An investigation has already been started

My lord, is that ... legal?

3 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

Murder is not legal, no.

Source: Half a decade of law school.

If you want a more proper answer: Depends on Swiss law, but most likely not. It might count as hate speech, threats, encouraging criminal activity, or something like that, depending on the law.

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Europe was the Birthplace of ANTIFA; by comparison US ANTIFA branches are posers.

I had no idea, the first time I heard about them was after that incident at Berkeley.

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You think moderates can't consider both to be useful idiots?

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5 points · 6 months ago

Comunists being Comunists.

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-11 points · 6 months ago(0 children)

... but they were antifa...

Sounds like something a Nazi would say /s

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lives in wonderful first world nation

wants to destroy its current economic system and cause major unrest and havoc in it

What even are these people. Revolutions happen when the peasants starve, now we have fat fucks in prosperous nations wanting chaos?

Revolutions happen when the peasants starve

They peasants have always been starving -- there's no correlation between starvation and rebellion. Case in point: the American Revolution. Do you think the American colonists were starving?

now we have fat fucks in prosperous nations wanting chaos?

American colonists in 1770 had some of the highest standards of living in the world. Prosperity makes one more desirous of liberty, not less.

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92 points · 6 months ago

Ugh this looks more like an anti-capitalism protest where Trump happens to be a figure of capitalism they are protesting. It looks more like something you'd see from Antifa.

There are regularly protests against the WEF, with people coming all around Europe to say how capitalism is evil and stuff. I guess this year they just added Trump to their protests for extra buzz.

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26 points · 6 months ago

Some background info:

It used to be that we have anti globalisation protests before the WEF every year. Often it would go overboard a bit (combination of police and protesters). There would always be property damage and sometimes people would get injured.

The last couple of years it went pretty much away, no one seemed to care anymore. I actually can't recall if they did protest the WEF last year.

This year there was an unapproved demonstration, but it was tolerated by the police and it appears that it went over without any incidents. I personally think that this is a testament to the local police force, they learned quite a bit from the past and niw focus on the important stuff. For example today the protected the house of parliament with a rather large amount of officiers, but didn't try to shut down the protest.

Historians will refer to this as the postironic period.

When politics catches up to the postmodern era

But why?

far left groups regularly protest the WEF in Davos. The fact that Trump is coming might draw some people outside of the anti-capitalism croud. But it's not the reason those protests exist in the first place.

We'll see if it's any different around the WEF itself on 23-26 January.

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Anti globalists are protesting against Trump? Am I taking crazy pills?

Switzerland are the real anti-globalists, and the real small government. They know Trump and the republicans are full of shit when they pretend they are. I personally don't agree with the Swiss system of government, but it's funny since they are what the republicans pretend they are.

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Yup, the Swiss protesters are dumber than a bag of rocks. Trump is the poster child of anti-globalists.

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68 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

Protest against trump but not against other foreign leaders?Can anyone name a foreign leader that kills political opponents or people who criticize them? Why not Protest the Kim dynasty you know the dictator who kills people who try to flee his country. I disapprove with other foreign leaders but you don't see me marching in the street what a bunch of loonies.

Well they did protest against Erdogan a few months back in a very similar manner. So it's not like Trump's special or anything. They're just people with a lot of free time I suppose

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That's not cool, you gotta stand together with other people to hate on Trump and wish him dead. That's how you make it in the cool kids group. And what scores more views Trump or Kim?

It's protests against capitalism, and it seems that Trump is a big and successful capitalist figure so they protest him?

Swiss here. Protests against other regimes/leaders/problems/issues of capitalism are done very often. One of the most popular topics in the left-wing scene of Zurich is the fate of a Basque activist who is imprisoned in Switzerland.

Maybe you didn't know better, and involuntarily went for a pretty whataboutist comment. But it is kind of naive you have to admit.

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Why not Protest the Kim dynasty you know the dictator who kills people who try to flee his country.

Because Switzerland and the DPRK have almost no relations with each other. Switzerland has no trade with the DPRK; Switzerland is America's 14th largest trade partner. There are 8 Swiss nationals in North Korea; there are ~77,000 Swiss nationals in America.

Their capacity to influence the DPRK is limited (they basically can't reduce their trade any lower than zero). Their capacity to influence the U.S. is much greater.

So it makes sense that they protest against injustice that they can influence rather than injustice they can't influence.

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79 points · 6 months ago

There was a Trump protest in Melbourne, Australia not long after he won. Came across it by accident. Couldn't help thinking it was possibly the most pointless protest ever. Protesting the democratically elected leader of a foreign country. Talk about impotent. Might as well protest the extinction of the wooley mammoth.

I would have paid $50 for a maga hat right then and the just to see their reactions.

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Human society always needs something or someone to be mad at. Once a society does not have legitimate discomforts, or an opposing enemy that can and is trying to wipe them out, or a government thats decisions have left their country starving, then they will fabricate a subject and blame everything wrong with their world on that subject. Most people complaining about Trump live very comfortable lives and their life styles have probably not changed at all since he became president. Honestly it's kinda fun to watch.

That's sort of the same theory Carl Schmitt had about holding a society together. You have to have an enemy image, whether it exists or not, so that your people can have the same fearful state of mind to keep them complicit. American society is really good at this, we've been doing it for the last 100+ years.

The problem with fake enemies is the real issues get ignored.

I'm not going to claim the US is innocent when it comes to Africa, but any time there's a discussion about fixing the problems the US gets blamed as the main cause. Meanwhile the citizens there are getting royally fucked daily by their government who also push that narrative non-stop.

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As a swiss dude. I still search for all the money i apperently have. I probably do something wrong as apperently everyone else in switzerland is rich.

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Hah, I bet none will step foot in Brazil because they think it's a shithole (they definitely used that word before this whole scandal)

Definition of Champagne Communist.

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Anti-globalists protest Trump? Literally what?

Donald trump is living rent free in the globalists heads.

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"Anti-globalists"

"Kill Trump"

"Eat the rich"

So what do they want?

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If you read the article it's actually anti globalization protests , which are pretty common during these kind of events .

Anti-globalists protesting against Trump

?????

I think these are AntiFa-like protestors who don't like the neoliberal world order... I mean, I don't either, but I also don't like full-on communism or socialism.

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6 points · 6 months ago

That’s funny I was just in Switzerland, it’s rich off chocolate, ski resorts and banks the source of capitalist wealth and has an extremely high minimum wage.

public transportation, rent and general living costs are also higher than in other countries (that's why tourists in Switzerland say everything is expensive). Of course the minimum wage has to be higher. Not to say Swiss have it bad. It's very lucky to be such a stable country. Just because Swiss people have a fine life doesn't mean, they're not allowed to express their public opinion and political rights.

5 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

Technically we don't have minimum wage by the way.

Edit : as people are asking for a source, see the wiki, and a reminder that we voted on imposing one (and refused it) not too long ago

And just because the banking market is a high percentage of the GDP doesn't mean Switzerland has nothing else. Pharma and Bio/Chemistry related sectors are doing really well and I'd argue even with less Banking Switzerland would do pretty good.

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Except....isn't Bern the capital?

Yes, like the article says.

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Actually Switzerland has no capital.

That was correct up until 1848. Bern, Zurich, and Laussane all had a bid in to become the capital. Bern was considered the compromise.

My original confusion came from misreading the beginning of this article. I read it as taking place in Zurich as opposed to simply being reported out of Zurich.

I know I'm nitpicking here but it's not the capital but federal city.

Gotcha. I've never heard that term before. What's the technical difference if you don't mind me asking?

So the federal city Bern just acts like a capital but in no law it's defined as such. It's insanely nitpicky but it was specifically made to be that way.

TIL. Thanks!

200 communists demonstrate against trump, like someone give a shit about them

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Odd that these protesters and Trump supporters both claim to dislike "globalists".

I wonder if it's the anti-capitalists or the Trump supporters who are confused as to the source of globalization?

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2 points · 6 months ago

Seems like the few communist/anarchist in my country grouped up to shame themselves again in front of the international press.

I have nothing against anti-Trump march but fuck those commies.

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2 points · 6 months ago

Very rich coming from a country well known for being a corrupt paradise.

hopp schwitz

Marxists trash killing people is normal!

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5 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

It’s correct that Switzerland has a strict policy concerning immigration. But a recent referendum (because direct democracy) about making deportations of criminal immigrants easier fell though by about 60%. Switzerland does deport a few people who repeatedly break the law or have commited serious crimes. Most people are not deported but simply told that they should leave the country during a certain time period. As for these people protesting, they are using their right to free speech, which is valuable in my opinion. It’s not a very constructive way of doing so, but what do you expect of a bunch of anti-government extremists. If they break the law, e.g. attack police of vandalize, they will be prosecuted and not just “deported swiftly and mercilessly”

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15 points · 6 months ago

Yeah its laughable when they slam us Americans. Look at Switzerlands immigration policy. 10 years to intergrate + regular checks by the gov to make sure you are "integrating properly" .

Everyone except the US is allowed to have strict immigration laws and border control.

Deport illegals? Sure thing.

USA kicking out 200,000 illegals? STAHP

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do you have a source because that sounds pretty hardcore, couldn't find one with a quick search

It isn't true.

Not true at all.

That sounds like a decent policy

That sounds like a decent policy

That is not true.

I'd back that policy in England.

I'd back that policy in England.

No, they will not be thrown out. It's pretty hard to get someone actively deported.

4 points · 6 months ago

On another note, the number of protestors seems to diverge quite a bit, local media reported anywhere between 500 - 1500.

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3 points · 6 months ago

Kill Trump, lmao this sign.

How will killing Trump, help in any way?

Oh, it's just a bunch of communists. I wonder how many of them posted selfies to the evil capitalist social media from their $1000 iPhones. Bunch of morons.

"You can't participate in a society that you wish to improve"

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To righties calling these people communists,

No, they are not, they are anti-globalists so the communist world Utopia doesn't go with them, so they are not communists, but they are anti-capitalists, so that would make them... Socialist, right?

So nationalist-socialists aka Nazis.

To lefties supporting or cheering for them protesting Trump, these people are Nazi-lite.

Nazis without "the Jews" propaganda, but being anti-capitalists, the hate towards most successful capitalists(Ashkenazi Jews) goes along.

Not trying to start something but why is it Nazi to the right and Nazi-lite to the left?

Because Nazi is just short of Nationalist-socialist

Whilst they are by actions and goals Nazi-lite

understandable have a nice day

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4 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

Why do people always protest against something from one country in another country? Why do they think the other country will care? What do they hope to achieve?

I dislike Trump as much as the next guy. Objectively speaking, he's simply an idiot. But I just can't see anything coming from this.

Well, I kinda understand protesting the arrival of Trump in Switzerland: I do not want him here and I prefer if he stays at home. We really do not need him (and in my opinion, he is not welcome here). The problem is that if you do not want the elected president of a democratic country, is like is you hate the entire country, since he is just the representative of the people. So this could send the signal that we hate all Americans or something, which is not true.

However, we also have other representatives of other countries that are far worse than trump, but I do not see protests against them (except Erdogan, but it might be due to the sizeable number of turkish nationals living in Switzerland).

That being said, that is a very stupid protest, and there are like 20 people participating, which is nothing: just a bunch of lunatics with stupid signs.

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2 points · 6 months ago

A whole 500. Damn.

Take away the food and drinks they brought with them and make them buy food and drinks locally

Kind of funny how Switzerland really is a 'small government' country, yet even they see through Trump's bullshit.

5 points · 6 months ago

Even funnier how so many American trolls have been triggered into downvoting rational statements like yours.

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Comment deleted6 months ago(2 children)

No, but he wasn't disrespectful and rude. It's not that people agreed with everything he said or did, just that he didn't act in or say hateful things.

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I'm sure most of these protesters came from the Riethalle. They should demolish that abomination of a building already, it's filled with junkies and play-acting anarchist. All they want to do is to yell about something but they live in a country with one of the best life qualities in the world so they run out of ideas and have to complain about foreign leaders.

Anti-globalisation demonstrators took to the streets of the Swiss capital on Saturday to protest against a planned visit by U.S. President Donald Trump to the World Economic Forum this month.

they're either really dumb, or really smart.

Former Welfare and Food Stamp caseworker here - these programs are designed with one goal in mind: to provide taxpayer funding to ensure a lucrative income stream of taxpayer money to private drug test contractors.

Caseworkers pick up most drug users during the course of the intake interview investigstion at the time the client applies for benefits. The caseworker can assign D&A testing and assessment participation as a condition for receiving benefits or reducing benefits for non-compliance. Nothing new here folks, been doing it for decades.

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