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LAPD opens investigation of Steven Seagal after sexual harassment claims (usatoday.com)
submitted 3 days ago by FowelBallz
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[–]EverythingIsNeitzche 485 points486 points487 points 3 days ago (38 children)
I watched his most recent movie as a goof because AV Club said it was so bad, and at the time my reaction was, "oh, so he totally just made this movie so he could have sex scenes with this actress..."
[–]StylzL33T 93 points94 points95 points 3 days ago (7 children)
I feel like most of his more recent films he has a contract where he doesn't have to get off the couch, so they just green screen everything around him.
[–]SeenSoFar 27 points28 points29 points 3 days ago (6 children)
Someone in his AMA said he knew people who worked with him and that was 100% true.
[–]babybopp 19 points20 points21 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Plus he runs like a girl https://youtu.be/zmvzCP65z00
[–]CoolWipped 61 points62 points63 points 3 days ago (4 children)
I’ve always wondered if porn stars are like “I’d like to work with him/her some day” instead of saying “I want to fuck him/her”.
[–]CausalError 41 points42 points43 points 3 days ago (2 children)
Sort of - porn sex is not like real sex. But talent that have good on-screen chemistry often hook up off-screen as well.
[–]Futureboy314 18 points19 points20 points 3 days ago (1 child)
They should film that shit cause waste-not want-not.
[–]SciFiXhi 14 points15 points16 points 3 days ago (0 children)
[–]hotchnuts 1051 points1052 points1053 points 3 days ago (39 children)
"He told me how important it was to have chemistry off-screen as he sat me down and unzipped his leather pants,"
Sounds about right for Seagal. He does enjoy a comfortable pair of leather slacks.
[–]meta_perspective 251 points252 points253 points 3 days ago (33 children)
I can't imagine how sweaty those are ewww
[–]UpVoteAllTehThings 325 points326 points327 points 3 days ago (21 children)
It really seals in the flavor.
[–]DadaKing666 85 points86 points87 points 3 days ago (14 children)
Tastes like fake soy sauce.
[–]calicosculpin 24 points25 points26 points 3 days ago (0 children)
a chunky bolognese, if he is pretending to be Italian this week.
[–]HerNameWasMystery22 11 points12 points13 points 3 days ago (10 children)
Soy sauce is the fake sauce. Tamari is the good shite.
[–]meta_perspective 9 points10 points11 points 3 days ago (1 child)
[–]SUBHUMAN_RESOURCES 5 points6 points7 points 3 days ago* (7 children)
Wait, what is this? I love soy sauce and use it both to cook with and just as a dressing. What is this superior sauce
[–]mojavespider25 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (2 children)
Sounds like a more flavorful and nuanced soy sauce with no gluten. Pretty interesting. I’d never heard of it but now I want to try it.
[–]FoboBoggins 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (1 child)
looks like its gluten free soy sauce
[–]DeargUbel 10 points11 points12 points 3 days ago (0 children)
He fights crime in a leather suit.
[–]StylzL33T 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Like spicing a cast iron skillet. Only with sweat, dead skin and zits.
[–]Lord_Snow77 2 points3 points4 points 2 days ago (0 children)
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
[–]Deadpan9 36 points37 points38 points 3 days ago (5 children)
Ross: Listen, I'm in Elizabeth's bathroom…
Ross: No, I-I got really hot in my leather pants so I took them off but they must have shrunk from the-the sweat or-or-or my legs expanded from the heat. Look, I-I can't put them back on. I can't!
Joey: Oh. That is quite a situation. Uh, do you see any like, powder?
Ross: Powder! Yeah! Yeah, I have powder! (Grabs some of her shelf.)
Joey: Good-good, okay, sprinkle some of that on your legs, it'll absorb some of the moisture and then you can get your pants back up.
Ross: Yeah, okay, hold on! (He puts the phone down and proceeds to spread a large amount of powder on his legs and makes another attempt at pulling up his pants. It doesn't work, and without picking up the phone leans down to it.) (Almost in tears.) They're not coming on man.
Joey: Umm, do you see any—oh, Vaseline?
Ross: Ohh, I-I see lotion, I have lotion! Will that work?
Joey: Yeah, sure, spread some of that on there.
Ross: Hold on.
(Ross proceeds to apply copious amounts of the lotion on his legs. He literally starts spraying the back of his legs with the lotion, and as he applies some to his butt he makes a happy face like he enjoyed that sensation. After using about half the bottle he again tries to pull up his pants, but at the first sign of resistance, his hand slips off of the pants and hits him in the forehead.)
Joey: Ross? You okay?
Ross: They're still, they're still not coming on man and the lotion and the powder have made a paste!
Joey: Really?! Uhh, what color is it?
Ross: What difference does that make?!
Joey: Well, I'm just—if the paste matches the pants, you can make yourself a pair of paste pants and she won't know the difference!
Rachel: (entering) Joey, do you have a minute?
Ross: Dude, what am I gonna…
Joey: (To Ross) Uh, Rachel's here, so good luck man, let me know how it works out. (He hangs up the phone and strands Ross in the bathroom.)
[–]halfbloodpr1nce 9 points10 points11 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Joey: your timing couldn’t be better, I am putting out fires all over the place.
[–]Gimiesome 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (0 children)
NOt sweat but the moisture of love.
[–]InnovativeFarmer 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
That Friends episode when Ross wears the leather pants on a date. He starts to sweat. Goes to the bathroom to cool off. Cant get the pants back on.
[–]read4lyfe 9 points10 points11 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Huh always figure he was a faux leather kind of guy. Actually owning leather pants is the only thing that surprises me from this article.
[–]Sweatytubesock 3 points4 points5 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Also enjoys a comfortable leather circus tent as a jacket.
[–]StylzL33T 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
I wonder if he had his leather underwear on too.
[–]Amcal 576 points577 points578 points 3 days ago (73 children)
Now if they could charge him for some of his movies
[–]vonbrunk 263 points264 points265 points 3 days ago (54 children)
Back in the 2000s, one of my friends accidentally got mailed a Netflix DVD of one of Seagal's many direct-to-video B-movies -- titled "Today You Die." We tried watching it, and let's just say this: it was apparently a serious action movie, but was basically like one long unfunny MadTV sketch.
[–]Weiner_Dog_Weiner 18 points19 points20 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Please tell me they subbed Will Sasso as Seagal with some comically bad editing.
[–]I_Fuck_Mules__AMA 180 points181 points182 points 3 days ago (50 children)
long unfunny MadTV sketch
long unfunny MadTV sketch
So basically, every MadTV sketch.
[–]OoohjeezRick 91 points92 points93 points 3 days ago (9 children)
How dare you ignore that Keegan Michael key got his sketch comedy start on madtv
[–]Tyrealle 48 points49 points50 points 3 days ago (6 children)
Wasn't Jordan Peele also on madtv?
[–]IntrigueDossier 26 points27 points28 points 3 days ago (1 child)
[–]oscardagrach 18 points19 points20 points 3 days ago (3 children)
Ike Barinholtz also I believe
[–]Kampfgeist964 18 points19 points20 points 3 days ago (1 child)
You mean ugly-Mark-Wahlberg?
[–]Count__X 7 points8 points9 points 3 days ago (0 children)
I've never bothered to remember that dude's name, but by your description alone I know exactly who you're talking about.
[–]103617 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
No quite his sketch comedy start.
By the time he was on Mad TV, he and performed for years between Detroit and Chicago as part of Second City, with many future and past Mad TV and SNL stars.
Although not of highest quality, it was still seen as a mid-career job for many already successful comedians and writers.
Hell, Andy Daly (@tvsandydaly) was on Mad TV and by the time was part of the Swarm, UCB's first Harold team (directed by Amy Poehler), probably the best Harold team of all time.
[–]IThinkNotThen 25 points26 points27 points 3 days ago (22 children)
9/10th of them. Nichole Sullivan had some funny characters.
[–]BrianFantanaFan 87 points88 points89 points 3 days ago (20 children)
Your dismissal of sasso would not be tolerated in civilised society
[–]Paul_teh_cat 90 points91 points92 points 3 days ago (4 children)
"HI! I'm Kenny Rogers and welcome to jack ass."
[–]FlintWaterFilter 18 points19 points20 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Nobody wins the milk challenge
[–]cursing_nearchildren 24 points25 points26 points 3 days ago (0 children)
"I was raised on the dairy, bitch!"
[–]EvenG 55 points56 points57 points 3 days ago (6 children)
...and Michael McDonald, Phil LaMarr, Alex Borstein and Brian Callen. Most of that first cast has serious comedic chops.
[–]Photonomicron 17 points18 points19 points 3 days ago (0 children)
That was before Phil LaMarr's amazing work as Every Low Voiced Male Cartoon Character.
[–]xfearbefore 14 points15 points16 points 3 days ago (3 children)
Don't forget Artie Lange. That man is a fuckin' legend.
MadTV actually had a lot of really great comedic talent, it was the writing that usually fell short. There's still some great sketches here and there but they relied WAY too much on one-note characters that were kind of funny once and then run into the ground every episode for five years (Stuart, Ms. Swan, etc).
[–]IThinkNotThen 10 points11 points12 points 3 days ago (0 children)
I accept your criticism with humility and shame. I will prepare for seppukku.
[–]triple_OG 5 points6 points7 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Sasso, Bobby Lee, Aries Speares, hell even Bryan Callen...some of the people from MADtv were funny at times.
[–]Spongy_and_Bruised 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (3 children)
When the Terminator goes back in time to save Jesus. Holy shit my sides.
[–]MicrocrystallineHue 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Stolen Identity Three!
[–]throwaway2358 5 points6 points7 points 3 days ago (0 children)
We live in a post sasso world
[–]madethisforGWC 11 points12 points13 points 3 days ago (0 children)
there were a few good ones. dont make me break my foot off in your ass
[–]DonaldsPizzaHaven 5 points6 points7 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Ohh buddy. Them's fightin words.
[–]vagunowner94 27 points28 points29 points 3 days ago (6 children)
If you think MadTV was bad then please never watch SNL, you’ll claw your own eyeballs out
[–]Canadadr 23 points24 points25 points 3 days ago (5 children)
The good stuff was on In Living Color
[–]I-hate-Les-Moonves 20 points21 points22 points 3 days ago (2 children)
Fun fact: In Living Color was eventually re-branded as "House of Buggin'", then finally re-branded as MadTV.
[–]Canadadr 6 points7 points8 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Oh re-e-e-eallly. Didn’t know that
[–]middlehead_ 11 points12 points13 points 3 days ago (0 children)
It’s not really true, “rebrand” overstates the connections between the shows. In Living Color got cancelled for reasons, Fox figured they could replace the black sketch comedy show with a brown sketch comedy show and offered the slot to John Leguizamo, after barely 1 season they asked him to make the show less brown and he refused, they cancelled him and partnered with Mad magazine for Mad TV.
There was some shared staff along the way, but “rebrand” makes it sound like there was more carryover than there was.
[–]TouristsOfNiagara 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Fire Marshall Bill
[–]otra_gringa 7 points8 points9 points 3 days ago (3 children)
Miss Swan? Stuart??
[–]The_Mystery_Knight 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Is that yo’ boyfriend? He like Mike an’ Ike’s?
[–]steamyray-vaughn 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Do you fuck mules?
[–]triception 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Steven segauls life is a mad tv sketch
[–]Ahab_Ali 12 points13 points14 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Wrong jurisdiction. For that you would need to involve the ICC and The Hague.
[–]MaximusNerdius 8 points9 points10 points 3 days ago (12 children)
It was all downhill after Under Siege...
[–]xfearbefore 25 points26 points27 points 3 days ago (11 children)
Pretty much. I don't care what anyone says though, I will watch the fuck out of every Seagal movie from Above the Law (88) up to Under Siege (94), those are some super enjoyable action B-movies that any red blooded beer swillin' man should enjoy.
Honorable mention to Executive Decision as well. Everything after that can go fuck itself (although I did used to love Exit Wounds as a kid).
[–]macwblade1 7 points8 points9 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Those early 2000s DMX/Jet Li action movies were my shit. Wish he could have stayed clean and continued to make good music and movies
[–]FowelBallz[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Executive Decision remains my favorite Seagal flick. SPOILER ALERT -- I was totally blown away when "The Grimace" was dispatched so suddenly.
[–]protocol__droid 5 points6 points7 points 3 days ago (5 children)
Minimal Seagal content though.
[–]xfearbefore 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (4 children)
Which is why I gave it the honorable mention, though they did advertise at the time like he was a main co-star which
SPOILERS FOR EXECUTIVE DECISION AHEAD
made his death early in the film pretty shocking to audiences. Underrated little 90s action flick that one.
[–]protocol__droid 3 points4 points5 points 3 days ago (3 children)
Sneering line to Kurt Russell - "Who's going to deal with these terrorists, you?"
Minutes later Seagal is dead and Kurt is in the frame.
[–]xfearbefore 10 points11 points12 points 3 days ago (2 children)
That man didn't realize he was talking to Snake motherfuckin' Plissken AKA RJ fuckinmother' MacReady
[–]triple_OG 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
you don't enjoy the kicky-punchy films?
[–]dolfanchris 155 points156 points157 points 3 days ago (9 children)
“I’ve been sexually harassing women for like 47 years”
[–]thosewintersundays 33 points34 points35 points 3 days ago (1 child)
came looking for the Tom reference. “yeah it’s called a skippy because of that noise, skipskipskip”
[–]I_Am_Not_Me_ 3 points4 points5 points 3 days ago (0 children)
"See the panicked way she runs away after? We call that a skippy"
[–]Shnoochieboochies 239 points240 points241 points 3 days ago (43 children)
Not Steven Segal he seemed like such a genuine, caring, gentleman /s.
[–]Romanopapa 65 points66 points67 points 3 days ago (39 children)
I know right?! I mean i wouldnt be surprised if Tom Hanks turns out to be a predator but not Steven Segal!
[–]EuropaStation 58 points59 points60 points 3 days ago (38 children)
No, don't say that. PLEASE.
[–]14sierra 42 points43 points44 points 3 days ago (35 children)
Seriously, I've already found out one of my favorite actors (Spacey) is a rapist and one of my favorite Comedians (C.K. louis) is a total perv. I don't want to lose respect for any more of my favorite entertainers. That being said I don't give a shit what happens to Segal.
[–]login_for_no_atheism 34 points35 points36 points 3 days ago (4 children)
If I ever meet Keanu I'm gonna thank him for not sexually assaulting anyone
[–]AwesomeSawcey 14 points15 points16 points 3 days ago (0 children)
That you know of.
[–]ShamefulWatching 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
child rapist wasn't it?
[–]Jazzspasm 7 points8 points9 points 3 days ago (2 children)
I mean, he’s even written a book and has it up on Amazon for sale. It’s one of those books that, y’know, really meks ya think.
You should check out who wrote the foreword. I guess they might be friends, and you know what they say about the company a person keeps..
[–]uncre8ive 6 points7 points8 points 3 days ago (1 child)
That...looks like 7 levels of terrible
[–]Beepboopbob1 67 points68 points69 points 3 days ago (6 children)
Ah yes, under siege 2 1995 - the last time Steven Seagal was relevant...
[–]westerosiwhore 60 points61 points62 points 3 days ago (4 children)
And when he grabbed 16 year old Katherine Heigl by the tits at a press event.
[–]JoeyHollywood 57 points58 points59 points 3 days ago (2 children)
For those who were shocked and needed physical proof of this....
[–]KrackerJoe 21 points22 points23 points 3 days ago (6 children)
Hes been sexually harassing women for like 34 years
[–]WyattEIRP 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (4 children)
While flying a helicopter. But he's been flying helicopters for 47 years.
[–]TheDuke45 32 points33 points34 points 3 days ago (7 children)
Isn’t this guy in Russia?
[–]_Nicktheinfamous_ 15 points16 points17 points 3 days ago (5 children)
This reminds me of his AMA gone horribly wrong.
[–]Kishara 8 points9 points10 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Oh god. And I thought I had seen all the really juicy AMA disasters.
Reading this ama is like watching rain that is actually little rat poop pellets.
[–]Hrmpfreally 128 points129 points130 points 3 days ago (96 children)
He’s always had an “I’m a huge piece of shit” air about him. I get that you’re incredibly proficient in martial arts, but that doesn’t entitle you to act like some fuckin’ holier than thou creepshow.
Always with the fucking Taichi/Wushu robes and walking around with his arms crossed while quietly speaking down to everyone he encounters— be a real fucking person!
Well, nevermind all that now. He’ll be properly ostracized. Fucking weirdo.
[–]-null 176 points177 points178 points 3 days ago (65 children)
incredibly proficient in martial arts
incredibly proficient in martial arts
That's somewhat debatable.
[–]outerspacegrass 45 points46 points47 points 3 days ago (7 children)
[–]Shpongolese 22 points23 points24 points 3 days ago (0 children)
[–]chuxtabux 7 points8 points9 points 3 days ago (2 children)
To be fair his footwork isn't bad. He's also apparently a rapist, so fuck him to death.
[–]QuirkySpiceBush 38 points39 points40 points 3 days ago (2 children)
Well, famed old-school grappler "Judo Gene" LeBell most likely made Seagal shit himself in response to Seagal's on-set douchery.
[–]PM_ME_YOUR_CLIT_LADY 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Wow that link spawned a bunch of pop ups
[–]Lirdon 12 points13 points14 points 3 days ago (52 children)
Any details about this? I always thought he was pretty accomplished.
[–]-null 51 points52 points53 points 3 days ago (11 children)
Just my two cents as an MMA fan. His "incredibly martial arts" skills went to his head and he started hanging out with Anderson Silva (and maybe a few other stars IIRC). He was even claiming he taught Anderson Silva a new move. Seagal was taking it super seriously and pretty much everyone was laughing at him behind his back as being a joke.
[–]AboutNinthAccount 27 points28 points29 points 3 days ago (9 children)
It's his neck-snap move. You just snap the neck and they die. IT's really funny.
[–]ThisLookInfectedToYa 13 points14 points15 points 3 days ago (5 children)
just reminded me of that clip from a porn vid with the horribly choreographed unconvincing martial arts neck snaps that appears in a thread every so often.
[–]winterfresh0 16 points17 points18 points 3 days ago (3 children)
I'm the cook.
[–]SneakyBadAss 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (1 child)
That's how siblings Wachowski came out with John Wick.
[–]AboutNinthAccount 5 points6 points7 points 3 days ago (0 children)
I kinda meant the will sasso neck snap. :)
[–]shadytinh 6 points7 points8 points 3 days ago (2 children)
Haha you should You should definitely watch this then.
[–]14sierra 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Why is Silva (a legit martial arts badass) hanging around with an overweight washed up ass clown like Segal?
[–]shadytinh 3 points4 points5 points 3 days ago (0 children)
He isn't anymore, if anything it was just for publicity. They were constantly making fun of the fat ass behind his back.
[–]SVPPB 69 points70 points71 points 3 days ago (25 children)
He is "pretty accomplished" in aikido: a cult-like martial art with no real sparring. You never fight anyone, you just twist their arm and they're supposed to go along with it. There's no competitive element, only cooperative training where you take turns doing the techniques on each other.
As I always say: it has all the ego benefits of placing people in painful joint locks, without any of the drawbacks of them actually fighting back.
[–]hesh582 54 points55 points56 points 3 days ago (5 children)
a cult-like martial art
a cult-like martial art
I really don't think that's fair to aikido at all.
It presents itself as a more spiritual, meditative martial art where the point is zen and disengagement more than ass kicking. But there's nothing "cult like" about it beyond having some "spiritual" elements.
The problem is Segal, not aikido. Aikido is deliberately and explicitly non-aggressive - it's non competitive because it's not meant to be. You're not trying to win, you're trying to do an unexpected joint lock or throw to get an attacker off of you so that you can run away.
Segal coming in with his bullshit macho "I'll snap your neck if you look at me wrong" attitude has very little to do with aikido as it is actually taught, and least in my experience.
[–]gigabyte898 12 points13 points14 points 3 days ago (4 children)
From what I’ve heard about Aikido it seems to be more of an issue with people who take it too seriously like “yeah well I know aikido dont fuck with me!” rather than it being an issue with the art itself.
[–]hesh582 12 points13 points14 points 3 days ago (3 children)
The unfortunate thing about it actually stems from something that I liked about it - the lack of real sparring.
I liked the "art" side of martial art - meditative fitness that teaches you some self defense. They focus on technique and it's a bit ritualistic. But there's no real stress test, you're never asked to really prove yourself in a fluid environment. You demonstrate mastery of technique to advance, not your ability to actually win.
I liked that because I don't... like fighting. Aikido is a great martial art for people who don't like fighting. That gets it scoffed at endlessly, which I don't think is fair at all to the core of the sport.
BUT... it gets scoffed at for a reason. Because there's no stress test, no proving yourself in a real sense, it's very easy for the "masters" to get incredibly cocky. Which is kind of the exact opposite of the point of the training style, and I think the single biggest problem with aikido right now.
Aikido doesn't mesh well with our current MMA focused martial arts culture. People get into martial arts hoping to end up like an MMA pro. The martial art may or may not help you with that. Aikido doesn't, really, but more importantly it makes it kind of hard for a blockedheaded practitioner to realize that it hasn't.
So you get a lot of unjustified arrogance from a few very vocal people, which has led to Aikido getting a pretty bad reputation as a "fake" martial art. But that really doesn't represent the majority of actual Aikido dojos and practitioners.
[–]Lirdon 9 points10 points11 points 3 days ago (18 children)
Hmmm. Never knew that about aikido. Makes sense though. I wonder how you get belts in that art if the only accomplishment you have is other people giving into your motions.
[–]hesh582 12 points13 points14 points 3 days ago (10 children)
It's really not true at all though. Aikido isn't competitive because it's more like a very specialized self defense class than a true martial art, and it doesn't really make any pretense otherwise.
The central tenet of aikido is disengagement. Basically all techniques are defenses against an attack, and the subtext (once you strip out all the typical Japanese martial arts philosophical stuff) is that the point is to quickly surprise an attacker with a technique so that you can get away. It's very non-confrontational in philosophy and emphasizes escaping conflict without hurting the attacker.
Most of what students learn is how to fall without hurting yourself, and various things to do if someone grabs you from different angles. There's no real need to "spar" when you're just trying to teach someone how to break someone's grip and force them away.
It's a perfectly legitimate martial art, it just has a much narrower scope of purpose than a lot of others. It's not going to teach you to spar with an MMA pro. But it doesn't claim that it will, and what it does teach you is potentially more useful for a non-expert to use in a real world situation.
[–]Katboss 12 points13 points14 points 3 days ago (8 children)
Look at this bullshit. This is what aikido fanatics believe is reality. Yes the video is pro-MMA, but the MMA people don't make the aikido people do these demonstrations"
It's gymastics, nothing more. It teaches you how to help someone throw themselves onto a mat.
[–]hesh582 6 points7 points8 points 3 days ago* (7 children)
See, I knew something like this would come up.
Aikido as it is typically taught makes no pretense of being a competitive martial art. Unfortunately, that doesn't stop many people involved in it from really wishing that it was. Arrogance is a problem with a lot of the less directly combat oriented martial arts. A depressing number of experts start fantasizing about being Bruce Lee no matter what the original point of their teaching.
At the small number of dojos I've been at, anybody involved would laugh at the suggestion that aikido techniques would win vs an mma pro.
Also as a general rule, remember that you can find any schmuck from any group to make a fool out of themselves, and then turn around and say "this is what ____ fanatics actually believe!!!". There's practically an industry built around it. If your only exposure to what aikido is comes filtered through mma site and such, you aren't going to actually get a good look at what aikido actually is about for the majority of practitioners.
edit: I didn't look closely at your video, I thought it was just an mma person kicking the crap out of an aikido guy. It's the no-touch bullshit. That has absolutely no place in any aikido dojo I've ever been to.
[–]Drew11427 6 points7 points8 points 3 days ago (6 children)
Can you please provide us with some examples of what aikido actually is? I'm genuinely curious.
[–]hesh582 3 points4 points5 points 3 days ago* (5 children)
I'm speaking from personal experience, mostly. I dabbled in it for a few years.
It's as I described in the post up the chain a few from this one: mostly a self defense class mixed with spiritual/mental discipline and well being. If you have a line of "physical group activities to do in a gym" that starts with yoga and ends with underground thai kickboxing, aikido probably falls somewhere in the middle, a lot closer to yoga than MMA is. The "arts" part of martial arts does come from somewhere, even if ass kicking is the only take away most people get from them.
On of the central themes is disengagement. You're supposed to break a hold, knock someone off balance, etc so that you can escape or defuse a conflict. It's not really designed to be used against an expert, trained attacker or in direct combat. You're not trying to "win" by beating someone into submission, you're trying to prevent everyone involved (and that means everyone, a big part of aikido is not injuring your attacker if possible) from getting hurt.
What is it practically? It's a lot of holds and throws, mostly executed in a quick moment to deal with one specific situation. For instance, if a person grabs your wrist to stop you from stepping away, aikido provides a lot of ways to deal with that. If they jump on you going for a jiu jitsu takedown, it provides basically none.
There's also some weapon routines and such, but these are more like the "gymnastics" criticized earlier. The point is learning to control your movement, not beating someone in a sword fight. There's a zen/spiritual aspect of aikido, which also comes into play when it comes to the aforementioned goal of defusing conflict.
[–]Kaneman82 11 points12 points13 points 3 days ago (11 children)
Aikido is a fake martial art.
[–]atglobe 13 points14 points15 points 3 days ago (2 children)
“I’ve been doing martial arts for like 87 years.”
[–]BariumEnema 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (1 child)
It's called a Skippy.
[–]SqueezeTheShamansTit 54 points55 points56 points 3 days ago* (15 children)
He's a complete douchebag. My husband was EOD in the army and worked with the secret service a few times. They were in an elevator once and Steven got in with them, looked at the secret service guys and smirked and said "you guys think you're tough but I could take you" who the fuck says that? God if his movie persona and that stupid reality show weren't enough to hate the guy, that put it over the top for me.
[–]Hrmpfreally 14 points15 points16 points 3 days ago (3 children)
I cannot for the life of me remember what it was, but I was watching a documentary with my wife in which the filmmaker randomly encountered the dude on the street, so he walked up to him with his camera crew, and Seagal just.. tossed his ass in to a fountain.
It looked horribly scripted, because everything he does is horribly scripted, but it was enough of an asshole move for both of us to groan. What a preposterous fuckwit.
Your story sounds on point. I can only imagine the dudes your SO got exposed to. I was in the 10th Mountain from 12-16, but I didn’t do anything that cool! EOD takes balls of steel. ALL of the props to your husband.
Edit: Travels with my Father! Highly recommend. - I think it’s on Netflix
[–]SqueezeTheShamansTit 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (2 children)
Thanks man, I'll let him know he got some internet props! It's def a tough job, the failure rate for the course was ridiculous. IIRC something like 3/4 of them didn't make it. Thanks for your service too!!
[–]Hrmpfreally 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (1 child)
I was a 35T- I’ll spare you the fancy name, but it was basically Geek Squad for MI. It was a pretty sought after gig, so, we had a few EOD wash-outs that came our way for civilian career prospects.
I was always so struck by how these profoundly intelligent dudes all just came from a gig where they were just super amped up about blowing shit up in real time. I love it. Hahaha
[–]SqueezeTheShamansTit 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Lol yeah he's always been a complete pyro. The 4th of July is bigger than Christmas at our house. If anyone reading this is interested and you can get through the course, the contract work once you go civilian is crazy lucrative. He didn't go that route but his EOD buddies who did it could retire with multiple homes at 40 if responsible. You can get into bob disposal as a civilian with a short 6 week 6k$ course but it's very difficult getting work without knowing someone already in the field.
Here’s his new book up on amazon. Brain challenging stuff, i’m sure.
Check out who wrote the foreword
[–]Hrmpfreally 12 points13 points14 points 3 days ago (0 children)
I just stocked up on toilet paper, so I’m good.
[–]Shpongolese 6 points7 points8 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Holy fuck i was not expecting the dirty sheriff Joe Arpaio! Wowwwww
[–]ThisLookInfectedToYa 60 points61 points62 points 3 days ago (9 children)
Hope they don't kill his dog when they come to visit.
[–]Keohane 62 points63 points64 points 3 days ago (8 children)
Underappreciated comment right here.
[–]ThisLookInfectedToYa 17 points18 points19 points 3 days ago (3 children)
Vid of LAPD's visit
[–]Car-face 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago* (2 children)
If any hollywood star's actor's person who has stood in front of a camera's home was filled with vats of milk, I'd put money on it being Steven Seagal.
[edited for accuracy]
[–]alexsoccer20 7 points8 points9 points 3 days ago (2 children)
A tank for a cock-fighting ring bust? Way to over do it right there.
[–]Keohane 7 points8 points9 points 3 days ago (0 children)
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
[–]BigTimStrangeX 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
It was probably for that reality TV show he used to have.
[–]hjr198 11 points12 points13 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Can confirm. I feel violated everytime I look at him
[–]beverlygrungerspladt 7 points8 points9 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Can confirm. Wikipedia states, "the only thing worse than being raped is being raped by Steven segal."
[–]Berns429 12 points13 points14 points 3 days ago (0 children)
How dare they accuse this highly decorated
Navy SEAL. I recently watched a documentary about him, i witnessed hidden camera footage of him single handedly take down a group of domestic terrorists whom were trying to take over a US warship, he karate chopped the shit outa these guys, released his captured comrades, and protected a hot chick who was there to celebrate the captain’s bday. I mean these were some real asshole terrorists, they killed captain on his friggin birthday.
But that didn’t slow down this war hero, he killed the last dude with a knife, throwing his ass around and shit like he was a little bitch.
[–]xfearbefore 12 points13 points14 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Holy shit I just checked his Wiki and the section on his lawsuits and sexual harassment allegations is nearly as long as his filmography.
[–]VoxPlacitum 33 points34 points35 points 3 days ago (2 children)
"My safe space..." *Music playing
[–]Mirand1986 22 points23 points24 points 3 days ago (1 child)
"Bully-proof windows, troll-safe doors.."
[–]meta_perspective 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (0 children)
"They called me 'Steven Se-boomboom'!"
[–]buffer_overfl0w 37 points38 points39 points 3 days ago (3 children)
There's lots of crazy shit about Rapey Seagal such as keep sex slaves (2010) http://www.today.com/id/36446224/ns/today-today_entertainment/t/seagal-sued-allegedly-keeping-sex-slaves/.
I hope the fat fuck gets what he deserves
[–]Wjreky 6 points7 points8 points 3 days ago (2 children)
So did anything come of this?
[–]stretchpharmstrong 3 points4 points5 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Yeah, I remembered this today too, am guessing as it was a civil thing that there was a payoff
[–]DuplexFields 6 points7 points8 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Also, the Hollywood Sex Ring told him he couldn't have any more sex slaves if he couldn't keep them secret.
(Debating putting an /s on this...)
[–]TheBauhausCure 16 points17 points18 points 3 days ago (5 children)
Such a shit person...gives martial arts and Aikido a bad name.
[–]Time_Remnant 64 points65 points66 points 3 days ago (5 children)
It's going to be fun watching him run away from this like a girl. Also, shit himself.
[–]drkwaters 17 points18 points19 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Unless there is well documented evidence or an admission of guilt it's going to be impossible to prove any claim of sexual harassment that is over twenty years old. I'd be surprised if he even acknowledges the accusations.
[–]eldergias 6 points7 points8 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Man, his career is under siege and he is on deadly ground with this accusation. He always seemed like a good man, but if these accusations turn out to be true I hope his fame does not make him above the law.
[–]sylvielining 12 points13 points14 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Good thing everyone likes him and thinks he’s great in his safe space
[–]thenixnerd 6 points7 points8 points 3 days ago (1 child)
I'm just gonna say it: Not surprised.
[–]Gwydiian 20 points21 points22 points 3 days ago (0 children)
When are we going to start holding these agents accountable for sending women on auditions, knowing full well they would have to perform some sort of sexual act to land the role!?
[–]Jesuismieux412 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (1 child)
Gene Labell made Seagal poop his pants by applying a chokehold.
[–]oversized_hoodie 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
I wonder what it smells like when you take off leather pants full of shit.
[–]drunkmormon 6 points7 points8 points 3 days ago (0 children)
He's staying in Russia now.
[–]Seattle-ite 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (2 children)
How dare they accuse this proud musician who played in a Detroit "all-black band" in the '50s!
[–]kromatika 3 points4 points5 points 3 days ago (0 children)
I read an account of his guest appearance at some zen retreat where he never showed up to his scheduled lectures, making people wait for hours, and had a bunch of very young female Asian "assistants".
[–]Chaosmusic 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Seagal tried to run from the police, but with no one there to speed up the camera to make him look faster, he was easily caught.
[–]pf8g8r 7 points8 points9 points 3 days ago (1 child)
I guess he's not... above the law.
[–]LinksDedx_x 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Yeah... no.. that dude is definitely a sexual predator. There's no actual way he's not.
[–]ProKrastinNation 3 points4 points5 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Just an anecdote but one of my friend's moms partied with him for a weekend in the 80's or 90's and said he was a total pig. She's also batshit crazy but I never found it hard to believe.
[–]M1ghtypen 3 points4 points5 points 3 days ago (0 children)
I'm genuinely surprised at this. Not because Seagal's a creep, but because I had no idea he even existed anymore. I didn't assume that he died, I just figured he vanished into the Upside Down or something.
[–]Darnoc777 3 points4 points5 points 3 days ago (0 children)
I just came here to read the anti-Seagal comments. In Japan a cable station has Seagal Day where they play his movies all day. They must get them for free or really cheap because even the few seconds I look at them are unbearable.
[–]allbright1111 4 points5 points6 points 3 days ago (0 children)
I just realized who he looks like with his helmet of black hair - Ming the Merciless , the bad guy from Flash Gordon!
[–]Compl3t3lyInnocent 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (1 child)
1995, that's 22ish years - so I guess when California repealed the statute of limitations for rape it was retro-active?
[–]KeavesSharpi 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
There's no statute of limitations on sexual abuse?
[–]tralphaz43 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Need to investigate that wig
[–]smoothtrip 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
He is a cop too, right? So this adds more to the craziness...
[–]rustyshakelford101 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
A smudge on the otherwise pristine Seagal legacy.
[–]Deganawida33 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
It couldn't happen to a 'nicer' guy...
[–]mclepus 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
That Russian citizenship is sure gonna come in handy.
[–]jjherrera1987 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Shitty actor and person it turns out. I hope the victims of his harassment get their justice due.
[–]k13 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
If his excuse is as good as his acting... he's going to jail.
[–]Ralphusthegreatus 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
This explains Jean-Claude Van Damme's comeback. There can be only one.
[–]Jan_AFCNortherners 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
His ex wife Kelly Lebroc has stated she was raped and abused by him.
[–]Scaredycrow 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
This one I was expecting.
[–]NPVT[🍰] 2 points3 points4 points 2 days ago (0 children)
A bit of a Russophile Steven Seagal who also likes convicted criminal Arpiao.
[–]TitleJones 2 points3 points4 points 2 days ago (0 children)
I have no fucks left for this kind of crap.
[–]bmikey 14 points15 points16 points 3 days ago (2 children)
He ain’t leaving Russia. Commie prick.
[–]pinball_schminball 16 points17 points18 points 3 days ago (16 children)
He also wrote an Alex Jones love letter creepy book about shadow governments or some shit.
Typical Trump supporter.
[–]aggressiveberries 2 points3 points4 points 3 days ago (0 children)
God the man should be put to death for wearing that atrocious rug on his head.
[–]michelle_indeed 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Isn't there a statue of limitations on this stuff?
[–]mlewisthird 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago* (0 children)
BOOOOM!!! I think we have another one... Someone get a bodybag over here.
[–]Mrselfdestructuk 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
CDAN has had some blinds on him, another utter arse of a man!
[–]usa_bad_9ss 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
I wish people would stop trying to take over a US warship, he said straight up it was wrong so why try to dismiss it.
[–]FlameOnTheBeat 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
"There is off camera nudity."
So, not part of the movie? That makes sense.
[–]fuzzycuffs 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
What's with Segal and Sherrif Clark and their prison pussy goatees?
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[–]Uli_The_Nihilist 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
This is the most unsurprising of the avalanche of sexual misconduct charges we've heard over the last few months.
[–]I_like_to_jive 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago* (0 children)
Too bad he isn't a scientologist
[–]ovalt1nejenk1ns 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Source: anonymous sandwich
[–]Kyuuma 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
You can take that to the bank!
[–]pappytony 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
Plot twist: this is actually a setup for the next Steven Seagal movie.
[–]2centzworth 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
If he is charged, he can feel safe in the knowledge police aren't allowed to come for him with a tank, take his home down and kill his puppy anymore.
[–]LostHole 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (0 children)
He can literally fly to Russia & not have a problem
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