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[–]gordonfroman 3979 points3980 points  (335 children)

I'm not done with Scientology, can we burn them down first before we go to the next

[–]shrekter 1573 points1574 points  (250 children)

Trump's thinking about taking away their tax-exempt status

[–]OtherKindofMermaid 385 points386 points  (149 children)

Does he even have the power to do that?

[–]sabrefudge 2121 points2122 points  (124 children)

I’m no Trump fan, but if anyone has the balls (or confident stupidity?) to threaten a scary power like Scientology with absolutely no regard for the consequences or his own safety, he is the man for the job.

[–]goldeneye98 962 points963 points  (43 children)

3AM tweet: "The statement by Scientology about me is a HOAX and total FAKE NEWS! I tried to play nice but no longer! IRS looking into it. Many Scientologists are Democrats btw! SAD!"

[–]qlokas1 309 points310 points  (29 children)

I almost believed this is real, but there is not enough "im very smart" in it

[–]futureformerteacher 215 points216 points  (24 children)

Also, the correct letters are capitalized.

Trump's tweets have random beginning letters capitalized for no other reason that his little reptile brain got excited when he thought them.

[–]IAmANobodyAMA 78 points79 points  (13 children)

If he thinks the special counsel if putting the screws to him, just wait until he gets on Miscavige’s bad side.

The reach and influence of Scientology scares me when I think about it too much. The stories about them stalking and allegedly murdering people, them breaking into government facilities and destroying data, pressuring political figures to back off ... all of those things are insane to consider actually happening, yet they do.

And lately I’ve been flooded with YouTube ads attacking Leah Remini’s credibility by clipping her interviews to make it sound like she makes everything up. And I’m not watching Scientology attack videos; I’m watching Let’s Play videos for games I am interested in buying. And if I didn’t know any better, I may buy into these “learn the truth” ads; if you take them at face value and know nothing else, they are actually quite compelling.

If trump pissed these guys off, imagine their capacity to attack him from so many angles. Go for it, please.

[–]sobriQue7Futurama 50 points51 points  (6 children)

But if you remove trump from this equation, you end up with a religious group successfully attacking the president of the United States.

No thanks. I’ve heard enough scary shit the last 6 months.

[–]pupperdoggo5 25 points26 points  (2 children)

That’s what I’m thinking.. fuck trump, but if this group has the power to remove a fucking president from power, no thanks. He’s dumb enough to attack them, and part of me wish he would be so boneheaded and stubborn he would actually do some damage to them, but I would much rather he gets removed by these investigations rather than Scientologists.

[–]282828287272 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I would actually very much like to see Scientology Vs. The President of the United States. The fact that it's Donald Trump will just improve the showmanship. I don't think a lesser authority could handle them. They already beat the IRS. They would definitely slander him in every way they could but he's proven to be immune to slander already. They can put up youtube ads about how he's awful and he can order CIA black ops assassinations on Scientology leadership.

[–]_TheConsumer_ 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Wait until miscavige gets on the wrong side of the US government. He better have brown pants to go with that sailors outfit he parades around in.

No one wants the full force of the US government after them.

[–]shrekter 76 points77 points  (17 children)

It would involve an investigation and maybe an amendment to the tax-exempt law, which he could introduce to Congress and then sign into law, if he can get the votes.

And I find it tough to imagine the politician that wants to be known as the guy that defended Scientology.

[–]MrNickNifty 51 points52 points  (9 children)

I don't think it's so much that they would be defending Scientology as being afraid of becoming targets of Scientology for going against them.

[–]shrekter 12 points13 points  (5 children)

that's equally bad

[–]algag 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I wouldn't blame them, they're lunatics. In the '70s They broke into more than 100 government agencies and private organizations to scrub unfavorable history of L. Ron Hubbard and then basically exommunicated those who were caught. Last time the IRS tried to revoke their tax exempt status they basically just sued everyone into submission.

[–]toifeld 28 points29 points  (4 children)

It would involve an investigation and maybe an amendment to the tax-exempt law, which he could introduce to Congress and then sign into law, if he can get the votes.

If that happens, Ken Ham, Creflo Dollar and that Texas Megachurch asshole would also be at risk. It would be a hillarious move.

[–]gordonfroman 598 points599 points  (38 children)

I'de support him in that fight to the end, he might be a piece ofshit but if he takes them on I'll stand next to him on that battlefield.

[–]Einsteins_coffee_mug 414 points415 points  (22 children)

The enemy of my enemy is my...well I mean I’d say hi when we pass in the hall at least.

[–]GulGarak 174 points175 points  (12 children)

I'd purse my lips together and nod slightly

[–]Boobr 40 points41 points  (9 children)

Which ones?

[–]remjob61 62 points63 points  (7 children)

My vagina lips (I'm a man)

[–]footytang 37 points38 points  (5 children)

You can have vagina lips and identify as a man you know? C'mon guys, it's 2006. Get with it already.

[–]GulGarak 29 points30 points  (4 children)

Your $CURRENT_YEAR variable is off. Did you hardcore it or is your system time incorrect?

[–]gordonfroman 21 points22 points  (1 child)

At least a wave, but for real though lets burn these motherfuckers and their Xenu empire to the ground

[–]bartekkenny 40 points41 points  (2 children)

The fate that unites all of America once again..... taking down Scientology.

[–]turroflux 64 points65 points  (4 children)

Not like they can run a smear campaign against him.

[–]ijustalwayssaynice 55 points56 points  (10 children)

I hope he does. I live in Clearwater and they are just a depressed looking group of people as a whole. I was at Starbucks downtown a few years ago and overheard two girls talking about getting out and two men showed up and took them out by their arms.

[–]EskimoMoe 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Wait what

[–]verymagnetic 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah this stuff happens. Scientology is really fucked. Loads of people missing, entire cities controlled and law enforcement staff+chiefs replaced.

[–]nature_girl_ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

How can we force his hand on that one. Both sides of the aisle and basically all Americans would agree with this.

[–]ijustalwayssaynice 55 points56 points  (17 children)

I found out my favorite restaurant in downtown Clearwater is owned by a Scientologist so I stopped going. Pretty sure our city government is all Scieno’s too. Fuck those people.

[–]DrewsephA 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Was that not obvious by the fact that you live in Clearwater? That entire city is just Scientologist Town..

[–]Connor0218 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Which one? I feel as though there have to be multiple. Just don't say Frenchy's

[–]tomseguraspenis 106 points107 points  (32 children)

They need to investigate Jehovah’s Witnesses. They are a cult that protects child abusers and practices victim blaming. Go google Australian Royal Commission and Jehovahs Witnesses.

[–]kjpmi 20 points21 points  (0 children)

She will be. Fist one of this new season.

[–]death_candy 43 points44 points  (19 children)

I agree, but I'm so ready for the JW cult to burn down

[–]wastedkey 343 points344 points  (12 children)

I wish they would highlight the exclusive brethren.

I escaped the exclusive brethren (you can see me previous posts) a year ago. It’s got 45k members worldwide and hides under the guise of a “normal” Christian church- it is anything but that.

The leader flies around in a private jet, all high ranking members have a massive amount of wealth, power, and control over everyone’s lives.

They aren’t allowed any external education, tv, books, and laptops and phones were allowed a few years ago, albeit with heavy filtering and monitoring. I remember signing the contract to get my phone through their shell IT company which provides “safe IT” for all members and it explicitly says all communication will be monitored.

Fuck that- I got my own phone, and within months of literally absorbing everything I could find on the internet about cults & brainwashing I came realized just what I was in. So yeah, I guess you can say the internet saved my life!

There has been very limited exposure brought to them, the closest is this documentary on YouTube https://youtu.be/D1fAeRXn6aM

I’m considering doing an AMA with a longer story, proof etc.

[–]PmMe_Your_Perky_Nips 71 points72 points  (2 children)

If Leah and/or A&E approached you would you be willing to be on a show about the Exclusive Brethren?

I'm not affiliated with any of them I'm just curious.

[–]wastedkey 55 points56 points  (1 child)

Absolutely, I have a lot to tell

[–]kjdsgdsahasads 9 points10 points  (0 children)

contact them

[–]salmans13 13 points14 points  (3 children)

What made you get your phone?

[–]wastedkey 20 points21 points  (2 children)

I’ve always been a “rebel”- going to the library to use the internet etc. I knew right well the phones would be locked down, and indeed they were. Also they were shitty blackberry’s at first!

[–]Hwamp2927 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Only in a church cult do you get to be a rebel by going to the library.

[–]TheAskRedditDude 1764 points1765 points  (423 children)

I'm hoping she looks into Nexium, the cult where Allison Mack is the main recruiter and they brand the female members. I was reading how people think it could be the next Scientology.

[–]adie_racer[S] 1495 points1496 points  (307 children)

The first episode will be about Jehovah Witnesses and another episode will be about Nxivm, a controversial self-empowerment group, according to the source.

[–]MettaMettaMetta 434 points435 points  (218 children)

I was hoping JW's were in the list

[–]Ikanan_xiii 486 points487 points  (189 children)

They are like weird Mormons and mormons are already weird.

I’m a Mormon and sometimes even I freak out about the people in there .

[–]David_O_McKayfabe 736 points737 points  (131 children)

So /u/Vegeta0589 comment below is getting buried because it reads like biased angst, which is common among exmormons. And /u/Ikanan_xiii comment reflects the more nuanced "yeah, it's not true, but it was nice and they are nice" perspective.

The problems with Mormons that create these conflicting views include:

  • doctrinal racism that isn't really in practice anymore (all white leaders sure, but members aren't racist), but racism still there in their doctrine (dark skin is a curse in the Book of Mormon for example)
  • anti-LGBT activism that puts them on the wrong side of civil rights and calls to attention the old racism
  • patriarchal leadership that sure looks a lot like sexism unless you justify it with "sorry, God says so, nothing we can do about it", again bringing all the [now more subtle] bigotry to the forefront
  • justifying these things with crazy beliefs that don't hold up, meaning these things are not justified
  • closed door interviews with children including sexual questions such as details about their masturbation habits, and if they did hook up with somebody, details about just exactly what and how they did / how far they went
  • cult-like Temple practices, the most glaring of which isn't the weird stuff they do inside, but that family members can't attend your wedding if they don't pay 10% of their income to the church to maintain a temple recommend that lets them in (IMO this is the Mormon version of JW shunning)
  • other belief tests required for a temple recommend, meaning you can't attend family weddings unless you are willing to say you believe that the latest batch of old leaders are "prophets, seers and revelators"
  • excommunicating people who talk about reasons they don't believe that the leaders are prophets, silencing doubters
  • church leaders refusing to counsel membership not to divorce an otherwise faithful and loving spouse because of a lack of belief, effectively encouraging divorce if someone wakes up to how fake it is, which is another thing forcing people to pretend belief

Mormon members usually really are great people, if naive in their belief. But all this stuff puts them on the wrong side of civil rights, authoritarian control, and gives them cult status. You don't have to bash on what good people Mormons can be to recognize the deeply rooted harms embedded in the religion. Most of what the Church does actually is good, but with these things hiding just below the surface, it's hard to say it's not culty.

Mormons will downvote me, but I was very careful not to say anything hateful or untrue. If you're going to downvote, have the courtesy to say why, tell me I'm wrong.

[–]KoosGoose 269 points270 points  (6 children)

As an ex-Mormon who was born and raised in Utah, I couldn't agree more.

I still live in Utah. It's a beautiful state filled with very nice people who will track you down and return things you've lost. Phones, wallets, you name it. I've forgotten to retrieve my cash-back from self checkouts five times, and I called the stores every time. 4 out of 5 times they have my cash waiting behind the service desk because people didn't take it. That's just one example of how kind these people are. I could go on and on about how neighborly and selfless they can be (shoveling your pathways, cooking for you when you're sick - even towards non-members).

But there are serious problems with how sheltered and indoctrinated the church makes them. They are very nice people, but it kind of breaks my heart to see so many people I love get caught up in a worldview that is so far from being down to earth.

[–]backwoodsmtb 125 points126 points  (1 child)

That is insane, how do you forget to take your cash back so often? I need to follow you to the grocery store.

[–]algag 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Apparently he forgets it more often than I even get it.

[–]ShaStaSC 36 points37 points  (0 children)

That’s a pretty good rundown of why the LDS church feels cultish tbh. The temple stuff in particular has always been the carrot and the stick of the LDS faith, and I like how you broke that down. I’m a Mormon guy that got married civilly before I got sealed in the temple, and there was a bit of shade that people cast on me and my wife for not getting married in the temple first. An odd thing, too, as she had never been an active member of the church at all in her life, her family knew this, and yet somehow they still had the nerve to shame her for a decision WE made...

[–]TheBeardedMarxist 10 points11 points  (6 children)

Yeah, I've always thought those two groups were similar. They both seem like nice people, but really weird.

[–]JournalofFailureOzark 20 points21 points  (19 children)

The Jehovah's Witnesses shun family members who leave the religion, though I don't know if they go as far as Scientologists.

I'd like to see an episode about the Nation of Islam (who partner with Scientology on some projects).

[–]throway_nonjw 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Awwww, yissssss.

[–]nemo1080 29 points30 points  (3 children)

What episode is AMWAY?

[–]JournalofFailureOzark 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Amway? What's Amway? This is Quixtar!

[–]death_candy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yay I was so hoping for this!!

[–]SourSackAttack 388 points389 points  (28 children)

Isn't nexium for acid reflux?

[–]NIM89 336 points337 points  (7 children)

That's how it starts.

[–]antlife 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You can take the blue pill, the red pill, or the purple pill.

[–]TrumpetDootDoot 85 points86 points  (13 children)

Work in pharmacy, use Esomeprozole. It's the generic and works better than anything else. But yeah, screw cults.

[–]DrThirdOpinion 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Combining the promotion of equally efficacious generics and hatred for cults? Take my upvote.

[–]WallyWinthrop 6 points7 points  (9 children)

How does it differ from Omeprozole (sp?)? I have horrid gastritis from NSAIDs and the Omeprozole doesn't help all that much.

[–]LiveJournal 9 points10 points  (3 children)

It does pretty much the same thing, but it supposedly "heals" the esophagus. I had horrible GERD and esomprozole was 10x more effective than omeprozole. You've got nothing to lose and a lot to gain, so I'd definitely recommend at least trying it for a month or so.

[–]akmoods 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Omeprazole is a mixture of two stereoisomers (the molecules have the same atoms but arranged slightly differently—they are mirrror images or each other). Esomeprazole is just one of the stereoisomers from omeprazole. One view is that esomeprazole contains the more effective isomer from omeprazole so it works better. A more cynical view is that when the patents were running out on omeprazole, it’s developer launched a new drug with new patents.

Lansoprazole is another similar drug that works in basically the same way and is available over the counter. There a few others available by prescription. Might be worth trying some until you find one that works.

[–]PresidentDonaldChump 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's for ALL your troubles. Would you like to step in and have a free personality test?

[–]MaesterMagoo 32 points33 points  (0 children)

If you read the article they specifically mention NXIVM

[–]tabiotjui 127 points128 points  (29 children)

Yeah I would be interested to know about that one. How on earth does one creepy cult guy that looks like an IT manager version of Stephen King manage to make a sex cult with some of the most attractive actresses in hollywood?

Seriously Google Keith raniere up. He looks like Stephen King with a hairpiece on

I mean they used to have grace park, and Kristin kreuk, quite a lot of famous television actresses

[–]A_Sinclaire 103 points104 points  (3 children)

I guess it's similar to becoming rich.. the first million is the hardest.

And for cult leaders the first celebrity follower probably is the hardest.

Once they have the first one they can leverage that to get more.

[–]Adossi 29 points30 points  (0 children)

That's probably a really apt description of what actually happened. Weird.

[–]witzendz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's exactly what happened. Research: Celebrity Center

[–]getoutofheretaffer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That sounds a lot like Movie 43.

[–]noteventhatgreat 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Once he made one or two people more famous the rest will flock to you in hopes of becoming rich and famous, then they end up just working for the rich and famous and by the time they realize they aren't getting famous they have too much dirt on them

[–]-MURS- 34 points35 points  (18 children)

I googled and im dissapointed. Looks like a normal dude to me. Youre exaggerating hard.

[–]ScrumpleRipskin 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Look at him in the 80s, when he started

[–]Selraroot 5 points6 points  (12 children)

Yeah, the guy isn't anything special but he's not unattractive.

[–]FrankSinatraYodeling 39 points40 points  (8 children)

Awe shit... I liked Smallville. Apparently Kristen Kreuk is a member too and I had no idea. Do you think Scotty knew?

[–]PresidentDonaldChump 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Oh...oh no. Not Lana. :(

[–]alittleladyluck 29 points30 points  (2 children)

Scotty doesn't know!

[–]TomSawyer2112_ 30 points31 points  (1 child)

I've seen that movie like 100 times, and every time Matt Damon shows up and sings that song I find myself saying "Oh shit, I totally forgot Matt Damon is in this movie." What a weird cameo.

[–]JournalofFailureOzark 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He was filming "The Brothers Grimm" in the Czech Republic at the same time they were making "Euro Trip." (I think I read somewhere that Damon went to school with one of the filmmakers.)

[–]reebee7 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I heard she got out (after getting Allison Mack in...)

[–]sabrefudge 49 points50 points  (4 children)

Allison Mack and the lady who played Lana Lang got involved with that cult.

Somebody saaaaaave meeeeeeeeee

[–]grumpyhipster 25 points26 points  (3 children)

Lana Lang left. I never liked Allison Mack on that show. She always rubbed me the wrong way.

[–]reebee7 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Chloe Sullivan never would've fallen for that shit.

[–]whatim 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Also Nikki Clyne (Cally from Battlestar Galactica).

[–]Wes___MantoothBattlestar Galactica 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Wow I had no idea they had to write her out of the show because of this. I though it was a strange decision of the writers but it turns out she forced their hands. Fuck her, ruined a lot of things about the final season of a great show.

This link also says Grace Park (Boomer/Sharon from BSG) is or used to be a member. There are videos with her and the founder as well: http://artvoice.com/2017/11/21/nicki-clyne-quit-acting-broke-contract-battlestar-galatica-producers-join-nxivm-mission-full-time/#.WlpU_nOIa7M

[–]whatim 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I hadn't heard about Grace Park being involved, that's too bad. After she left Hawaii 5-0, I was hoping she would get another tv gig. Sharon and Starbuck were my favorites.

I had heard that Nicki and Allison were married, to keep Nicki in the states.

[–]Skadoosh_it 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've never heard of that

[–]TrevorSlattery 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Third sentence of the article.

[–]St_Bernardus 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Damn that chick was a total babe when smallville was on tv.

[–]BourbonZawa 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"Damn Allison you are a total babe!!" And that kids is how I inadvertent was the catalyst that started a cult.

[–]NoThanksJustLooking1 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Allison Mack is the girl from Smallville, right? I liked her. Why would she be so gullible?

[–]Happy_Feces 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She did get hit on the head an awful lot.

[–]misterbondpt 293 points294 points  (4 children)

Herbalife?

[–]464222226 49 points50 points  (2 children)

That or any of the other countless MLM products that are exclusively marketed to church groups.

[–]MeatyBalledSub 14 points15 points  (0 children)

They could run an entire season focusing on Utah County based MLMs lol

[–]Happy_Feces 551 points552 points  (53 children)

I was once part of a mainstream cult called The Gate, based on the 12 step principle. It's in the uk and semi-Christian so I wasn't expecting it to be one, but it was.

I left and lost a lot of friends as they had to shun me.

More common than you think.

[–]R50cent 285 points286 points  (28 children)

Sage advice : if at any point you end up having to shun people, its probably a cult.

[–]GregorZeeMountain 99 points100 points  (4 children)

I had an Uncle on my Dad’s side of the family who joined a cult back in the 60’s. He disappeared for 15 years, and then was found in an unmarked grave in Mesa, Arizona. He originally lived 12 hours north of the U.S-Canadian border. It was discovered that the cult he joined was one of those suicide cults.

[–]Killingthemslowly 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Do you have any links i could read? I was in a similar sounding thing in the US. It was a drug treatment program created by Bob Meehan, it is pretty much a facade to take money from rich, concerned parents and take advantage of adolescents with drug problems, mental issues or sometimes they just convince you that you do have those. There's a documentary called The Group made by former members, it's very interesting and on YouTube i believe.

Edit: found a link to the documentary if anyone was curious https://youtu.be/BXBLYEeF5vs

[–]emptycollins 38 points39 points  (16 children)

12-step programs are definitely cultish. They have their own language and mantras, and they shame anyone who dares not walk in lockstep with everyone else.

[–]hydro123456 484 points485 points  (73 children)

Maybe after she's done with religion she can go after the MLM's. Those are getting pretty cult like these days.

[–]LeonHeldahg 149 points150 points  (17 children)

Yes! Years ago a friend asked me to go with him to a Primerica meeting. Was on the verge of having to fight my way out.

[–]DrThirdOpinion 104 points105 points  (9 children)

What the fuck is Primerica? They aren't even trying with these names anymore are they...

EDIT: They require their own employees to pay $25 a month for the privilege of selling their services. What the the fuck???

[–]DocSilverPen 40 points41 points  (2 children)

Yeah, I went to one. Jesus their little meetings every week congratulating each other felt so fucking weird. Everyone was clapping and standing and cheering. Lasted like an hour. I noped so hard after that was over.

[–]Mylaptopisburningme 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Funny how long this has been around. I recently started watching the old series Dragnet, it is 50 years old, there was an episode about a pyramid scheme, and it sounded exactly like it did now from a roommate who went to a Transamerica recruitment thing.

Here is Fred, Fred made $2000 this week, as they go through people and hand out checks and get people riled up. People just don't learn.

[–]bartonar 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Any time something has to spend a third of their introductory lecture saying "We're not a pyramid scheme! We're definitely not a pyramid scheme! It's just when you make a sale the guy who hired you gets money, then the guy who hired him, then the guy who hired him, etc... but we're definitely not a pyramid scheme!", run.

[–]Superdanowns 56 points57 points  (19 children)

What's MLM? Not even asking for a friend.

[–]hydro123456 133 points134 points  (10 children)

Multi level marketing, basically it's a pyramid scheme, but they also sell a product, which makes it legal.

[–]falconx50 88 points89 points  (4 children)

It's a reverse funnel system

[–]reallynormal_ 24 points25 points  (2 children)

I bet Frank was never stuck in that coil in the first place

[–]LizLemonIRL 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Franks the mastermind in the coil

[–]reecewagner 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Do you want to make a million dollars next year? Just get 5 of your friends to start selling this obscure item/package and get to the next reward level! What a success story! Until anyone asks what the fuck any of you do

[–]Becausethesky 63 points64 points  (1 child)

Multi-level marketing. Basically most of Utah’s economy

[–]DeadProle 37 points38 points  (1 child)

It means multi level marketing. Essentially a modern pyramid scheme. There is a good episode of Last Week Tonight on it

[–]CaseofTrophies 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Also surprisingly a good ep on it’s always sunny in philly. Shows how it works both from recruiting friends and family etc., people who fall for it, and people leading it

[–]PartyPorpoise 33 points34 points  (2 children)

I’m pretty sure my fascination with cults is what got me hooked on the /r/AntiMLM sub.

[–]PresidentNEWSROOM 61 points62 points  (14 children)

Unsurprisingly Utah (the home of Mormonism) is also the MLM capital of the world. Might be able to get both in one episode.

Source: I’m an ex-Mormon living in Utah.

[–]Namboman 229 points230 points  (3 children)

I'm 100% in on Leah owning the "cult exposer" corner

[–]shiftynightworker 80 points81 points  (34 children)

Do the FLDS next!

[–]joeysflipphone 25 points26 points  (5 children)

I had to scroll way to far to see the FLDS! Yes they need taken down so badly. Warren Jeff's is still running things from behind bars and I for the life of me don't understand how this is allowed to happen. A convicted child rapist telling other men its ok to rape other children under the false pretenses of a religion. Disgusting!

[–]quatefacio 34 points35 points  (18 children)

Twelve Tribes- I only know the one in the Kootenays, BC.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Tribes_communities

Them and their creepy cult busses. The have a cafe and 'Seem' regular folk, but they are creepy AF. I have 2nd hand knowledge of their wedding vows and the (non) status of women.

This area has The Duhkabours, US draft dodgers, and more!

Nothing does crazy like out of town folk!

[–]kaliskaphoenix 8 points9 points  (1 child)

From what I was told by a friend of mine who grew up in Chattanooga - where one of their delis is located - basically if you join them they seize all of your assets and ship you off across the country, far away from your family and friends. Members work at one of their Yellow Deli locations and are required to live in a group home with other community members. It's a weird fundamentalist Christian type thing. They will show up at music festivals across the country in their psychedelic-looking bus trying to recruit spun out hippies with some kind of "fellow kids" tactic. I went to the Yellow Deli in Chattanooga because I was curious, it felt what I can only describe as a culty hobbit hole.

[–]Trojinus 201 points202 points  (26 children)

Something needs to be done about the International House of Prayer located near Kansas City. They bring evangelical students from across the nation to study at their strip mall school. While they are paying for this education, church members house the students without support from the church. They’ve been buying all of the houses they can near the church for the past few decades, so they can own the entire community. They are an end of days cult. Now they are buying land, in an attempt to start camps for foster children, where they will have to work in fields all day to receive spiritual education. I know people who have joined, and I had to attend their IHOP wedding. There was a sinister feeling underneath the ceremony, despite all of the giant smiles plastered all over the members faces.

[–]sabrefudge 100 points101 points  (0 children)

So now when people invite me to IHOP, I should ask them to clarify whether they mean the cult or the pancake place?

[–]PresidentDonaldChump 40 points41 points  (1 child)

I bet their pancake breakfasts are bomb af though.

[–]evanthorpe 40 points41 points  (7 children)

I have several friends who have attended the school, and while many of their beliefs are a bit intense for my taste, they’re pretty far and away from being a cult. None of the people I know that have left there or still interact with organization were ever pressured (emotionally or spiritually) to do anything they were uncomfortable with, or to stay there. They’ve gone on to work and live normal lives...it was just like any other Bible school or church.

Again, they definitely have a heavy focus on “end of days” thinking, and, just like with any church (or business or group) there are people within that are douches, but I think they’re pretty removed from what someone would “officially” categorize as a cult. Just because they hold certain tenants of faith or beliefs that most people disagree with, doesn’t make them a cult?

Edit: or beliefs

[–]LiveJournal 19 points20 points  (2 children)

A large focus on the "end of days" is a complete waste of time. Churches that do this are a "cult of personality" Pastor away from being a cult.

[–]CDavis01 193 points194 points  (11 children)

cool. could be interesting

[–]ChuckDawobly 385 points386 points  (8 children)

Calm down

[–]vanillawafah 45 points46 points  (3 children)

Man, this comment went over a bunch of people's heads

[–]PracticalAnarchy 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Hey relax

[–]Dickwagger 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Uh ok

[–]destronger 10 points11 points  (0 children)

take a freakin chill pill

[–]CDavis01 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Uh ok

[–]kousi 11 points12 points  (1 child)

On the other hand it kind of blows that she's obviously out of material on Scientology, I was hoping for some bombshell, but I guess most of the audacious stuff is already public knowledge.

[–]Ivalonshlong 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Is there a way to get in touch with her? I was raised in a cult like religion oppressive manipulative. Born and raised in it. Only left because my very short marriage failed at a young age! But then I stayed away, because of all the backlash I had to deal with from this “church”

[–]scamlikenewton 79 points80 points  (21 children)

Scientology is not a “cult like religion.” It is a cult.

[–]StridAst 13 points14 points  (19 children)

Other than attendance and tax exemption, what's the difference?

[–]WinSomeDimSum 130 points131 points  (12 children)

I used to watch Leah on TKOQ growing up hoping to catch her showing a little skin. Now I watch Leah as an adult and my boner is one of justice, and less of lust. But still a lot of lust. I would chug her bath water. Sorry what were we talking about?

[–]nemodigital 30 points31 points  (3 children)

Cant wait until she investigates whahhabism....

[–]Lanaturnter 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I'm a secular muslim but live in a country with a sizable Wahabi community. Fuck Wahhabism

[–]Bronzefisch 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Will she go into international cults? There are also interesting (read crazy) ones in Asia. Seems like it will be more US focused.

[–]HadHerses 41 points42 points  (0 children)

I like her presenting and interview style. She's compassionate, open, and empathizes, whilst giving the impression she could kick the shit out of anyone she needed to at a moment's notice

[–]robreddity 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Honestly I'd just like her to stay focused on task until the job is done.

[–]MyPasswordIs222222 39 points40 points  (4 children)

Joel Olsteen. Please!

[–]Baby-eatingDingo_AMA 38 points39 points  (2 children)

No one can claim Joel Olsteen is making radical cult-like commands to his followers because he really isn't telling them anything. The residents at the assisted living facility I work at insist on watching his show every week and the average episode has no moral message and no instructions on how to live your life other than "worship Jesus and things will get better. You'll get money". He's a leach on society that contributes nothing, but it's hard to argue he's running a cult.

[–]JeremiahKassin 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Eh. He's loony, but his church isn't a cult. A cult of personality ain't the same thing.

[–]anxious_ibex 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Leah is very brave speaking for many old cult members who can't speak out

[–]Metatron58 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Sort by controversial and get yourself a bag of popcorn.

[–]glibknob 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That show should have some mileage, every religion is "cult-like".

Hell, any place where a larger group of people congregate for any given time starts showing cult-like behaviour. Ever been to a sporting event? Music event? Work?

I find it funny how easy it is to single out some specific groups (albeit deservedly) and then quietly ease back and worship your own god, or sports team, artist or employer since, you know, they're actually different and, you know, just that much better and more special.

We're all cultists in the making.

[–]nonameszz 66 points67 points  (16 children)

Omg Leah if you can hear me. The Hasidic Jew population of Lakewood New Jersey. Shine a spotlight!! They don’t get married legally so they can steal from state and government programs. They have an average of 5 or 6 kids because they are “ looking for the messiah”. They have so many weird rules like the wife can’t walk through the front door when she has her period and she’s basically unclean during that time. They don’t use electronics or “work” on Saturdays. They can’t even tip toilet paper on Saturday’s and need to wipe their butt with tissues. Trust me Leah, it’s interesting.

[–]designerspit 78 points79 points  (6 children)

So, Apple?

[–]ElectricPeterTork 27 points28 points  (0 children)

The new iGod classic is out next week!

[–]sabrefudge 13 points14 points  (0 children)

sent from my iPhone

[–]shosure 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Can't wait for the Jehova's Witness one. It's like two realities. I know a good number of people (people I went to school -- before college -- people I worked with, family friends, neighbors) and it never seemed like their religion was a cult. But then when I read details of it and people's experience of it on this site, the cult aspect is very clear.

[–]ChipAyten 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Can she do cryptocurrency subreddits too? They're only a step above cults.

[–]terricide 25 points26 points  (6 children)

Hopefully she will do one about Mormons. Maybe diving into the electroshock gay conversion therapy done at BYU

[–]Mygaffer 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I want a TV show that explores the least cult like religions. The ones that don't make you shun contact with non-believers, that don't require large amounts of your money, that don't excommunicate family members, etc.

That would be interesting to me.

[–]rpmcmurf 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I would love her to take on Landmark Forum.

[–]RyRyRhino 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Leave Dudeism alone!!!

[–]paganthegreat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Good for her I hope her show influences people that religion is no longer needed in society

[–]Lunarpeach 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Please do international church of Christ!!!!!!

[–]Just_OneReason 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Cough mormonism cough

[–]i_getitin 80 points81 points  (60 children)

Maybe JW?

[–]adie_racer[S] 156 points157 points  (13 children)

The first episode will be about Jehovah Witnesses and another episode will be about Nxivm, a controversial self-empowerment group, according to the source.

Did you read the article?

[–]enragedbee 271 points272 points  (6 children)

Did you read the article?

(sweating)

[–]death_candy 90 points91 points  (4 children)

Ex-jw, can confirm they don't ever read the articles

[–]Yonefi 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Ha!

[–]reecewagner 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I swear sometimes I used to just underline in a panic before the WT study

[–]didyourmummy 57 points58 points  (2 children)

read the article

Lol get outta here with that bullshit

[–]kmdnnBrooklyn Nine-Nine 15 points16 points  (1 child)

You're in luck if i read the title!

[–]MicroAggressiveMe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What article?

[–]MikeyTupper 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Nobody reads the article fam

[–]DeltaXray 249 points250 points  (210 children)

Hope she selves into Mormonism. That’s more of a dangerous cult than people realise.

[–]MicroAggressiveMe 17 points18 points  (6 children)

The Kingston clan would be my choice.

[–]GulGarak 21 points22 points  (2 children)

I thought you wrote Klingon and I was like oh cool I should check that out