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Posted by
Assyrian
2 years ago
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Rules for all Assyrian diaspora willing to contribute here.

  1. All Kurds and Arabs are not our enemy, they've lived in Iraq for a long time and represent a very large portion of the population in Northern Iraq. Don't say shit like "All Kurds and Arabs should gtfo of our land," that's like Algonquins and Cherokee claiming all of America for themselves. 500k Assyrians cannot possibly occupy the villages of 6.5 million Kurds. Kurdish Nationalists who deny our rights are our enemy and if you talk to the nice folks at r/Kurdistan[1], you'll find that lots of average Kurds are actually sympathetic to our cause. Lots of Assyrians have found refuge in Kurdistan and some Kurdish people may not be aware of Assyrian history in that area so try not to be an ass.

  2. Don't say stupid shit like "we're the oldest civilisation on Earth" or that "the bible says that we will come back and everyone will be punished". If you want to familiarize yourself with politics from this era, you have to approach issues in a secular, pro-science manner.

  3. Use evidence for your claims. AINA is not a reliable news source. AINA constantly posts inconsistent articles and is usually full of click bait to gain international attention for our cause. If you do use content from AINA, take some time to confirm the information is genuine and that the right terminology is used to recall events.

  4. Chaldeans have no evidence of ancient Chaldean or Babylonian lineage. We know for a fact that they split from the Assyrian Church in the 1500's so they're classified as Assyrian. We belong to the same ethnic group. Any historian worth his weight in bounjaneh knows this.

    The term "Chaldean" has fairly recently been revived to describe those Assyrians who broke from the Church of the East in the 16th and 17th centuries AD and entered communion with the Roman Catholic Church. This is a historic, ethnic and geographic inaccuracy. After initially calling it "The Church of Assyria and Mosul" in 1553 AD and designating its first leader as the "Patriarch of the East Assyrians", it was later renamed the Chaldean Catholic Church in 1683 AD. However, this line also reverted to the Assyrian church, whereas the modern Chaldean Catholic Church was only founded in 1830 AD. The term Chaldean Catholic should be understood purely as a Christian denomination rather than a racial term as the modern Chaldean Catholics are in fact ethnically Assyrian people,[14] converts to Catholicism, and long indigenous to the Assyrian homeland in northern Mesopotamia, rather than relating to long extinct Chaldeans who hailed from The Levant and settled in the far southeastern parts of Mesopotamia before wholly disappearing during the 6th century BC. There has been no accredited academic study nor historical evidence which links the modern Chaldean Catholics to the ancient Chaldeans. In other words no Chaldean continuity. Source

  5. Arameans though are actually part of a seperate ancient ethnic group that lived concurrently with the Assyrian empire. So called "Arameans" today living near Assyrians call themselves Syriacs or Suryoyo and speak the Swadayeh dialect but most of these Arameans that live in Gozarto come from Tur-Abdin in Turkey which is NOT historically Aramean land. This is similar to how Chaldeans call themselves Chaldean though they're nowhere near Babylon or Chaldea. Wouldn't it make more sense to find Arameans in Damascus, where the Arameans had a kingdom? "Arameans" living near Assyrians call themselves Syriacs or Suryoyo and speak the Swadayeh dialect. Assyrians speak the Madinkkhayeh dialect. Other Syriac speaking people living today include Maronites and St. Thomas Christians in India. Basically what I'm saying is, you don't have to be a native Assyrian to speak the Syriac-Aramaic dialect, Syriac being a corruption of the word Assyrian by the Greek Seleucid Empire. Identifying with the Syriac-Aramaic language only implies that you or your ancestors followed the Syriac liturgy of Christianity and nothing more. The full name of the modified Assyrian language and alphabet that we use today is called Assyrian Neo-Aramaic. Video of Assyrians and pro Aramean historians affirming that Syriac, Syria or Syrian had to come from the word Assyrian.

    In northeast Syria, northern Iraq, northwest Iran and south eastern Turkey, Akkadian influenced Eastern Aramaic-Northeastern Neo-Aramaic dialects are still spoken fluently by between 575,000 and 1,000,000 people, but most of the speakers of these dialects are ethnic Mesopotamian Assyrians, the indigenous people of Upper Mesopotamia (present-day Iraq), rather than Levantine Arameans (present-day Syria and Israel). Source

  6. Be friendly, we will never obtain our rights without the support of other, much more powerful groups. Remember to be good diaspora my horaneh. We should all unite under our common Assyrian-Aramaic language.

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Posted by
Assyrian
2 days ago

I am R1b, a haplogroup common among western Europeans that has also been linked with proto-Indo Europeans (Yamna Culture).

Despite its link with Europeans, R1b is actually common among Assyrian and Armenian men. Can somebody explain this? Are we mixed?

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The video can be watched here. If you didn't already know, the parish has been renting out space in Chandler for over a decade, they were finally able to build their own church in Gilbert.

They are accepting donations to help with funding at https://maryosipaz.com/donate

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What does r/Assyria think of social justice warriors? Not trying to start a flame war/riot or anything, but I am genuinely curious as I am part Assyrian myself. To me, the whole existence of Assyrians to SJWs seems to be a contradiction. Assyrians are indigenous Middle Eastern people (and often times very dark-skinned) , so one would automatically assume that SJWs/Tumblrinas would put these people on pedestals. However, I also tend to see that about ninety percent of Assyrians are very conservative, and would likely disagree with most SJW talking points. In addition, Assyrians are very Christian, a trait which SJWs tend to hate because they think Christianity is nothing but a colonialist religion (even though we converted willingly with no threat of violence if we didn’t).

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Posted by
Assyrian
9 days ago
Moderator of r/Assyria

Wilkommen! Guten Tag.

Welcome to this cultural exchange between r/Assyria and r/de. For our German guests, ask any questions and our Assyrian users will answer.

Please follow reddit and subreddit rules and respect one another.

This is a link for the r/Assyria users to ask our German friends anything!

Danke!

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I take a course in Middle Eastern civilizations and I was arguing with a professor on the ethnicity of the region.

He says Assyrians, Jews, Arabs etc all fall under the definition of a Semitic peoples. Saying just as Iranian groups are Persian and speak Iranian languages but have groups like Kurds, Balochs, Gilaks, and Lurs. Semitic groups are all an ethnic-linguistic group that are the same and speak Semite languages.

How truthful is this?

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Posted by
Chaldean Assyrian
13 days ago

I've been thinking of this a lot and especially these past few days when my mother visited me. I live in my own apartment two hours away from my parents and everytime my parents visit we argue over how clean/dirty my apartment is. She actually spent almost an entire day cleaning my apartment and complaining even though I had cleaned it myself before they arrived. Like I simply cannot understand this extreme fetish for how clean everything needs to be. Is it only my family or do you guys feel there was a mild obsession regarding cleanliness in your childhood homes too?
And no I'm not a dirty person who doesn't clean.

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His posts are fucking hilarious. Always wondered who was behind it

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Good morning / afternoon / evening,

So, I was thinking about getting a tattoo of Mary’s answer in Luke 1:38:

‎‏ܗܵܐ ܐܵܢܵܐ ܚܸܕܲܡܬܵ‌ܐ ܕܡܵܪܝܵܐ. ܫܒ݂ܘܿܩ ܗܵܘܹܐ ܠܝܼ ܐܲܝܟ݂ ܗܹܡܸܙܡܵܢܘܼܟ݂

Does anyone have the ability to write it out by hand? I don’t personally know anyone who could for me where I live now. I find fonts online a little too uniform (if I make any sense) and thought handwriting would be better ...

If you can, can you answer this post with a pic of it? Thanks!!

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Since the Assyrian empire extended throughout throughout the region and it’s ethnically the same as Babylonian one and several others that suggests that there was a significant population of Mesopotamians, what happened to those people? Were they wiped out during invasions? Or can a significant number of modern Mesopotamians (Iraqis) actually trace their heritage back to Assyria and Mesopotamia?

Also the Middle East suffers a problem of low diversity in the genetic pool, I don’t mean to be rude in any way but is that present in Assyrian communities or is it an Arab thing?

Sorry if I seem really nosey but I’m really curious about history and I’m kind of tired of reading endless Wikipedia pages that contradict each other 🙃

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O.k so i know the British made Israel a country and they were helping us get our land back too. i still don't know what happened. all i heard is stories about them siding with Arabs at the end and killing us. some of us had to run to Syria and the France protected us this is as far as i know. also i know a bit about Agha Potros. i don't seem to find any book about what happened.

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