I've spent the past week or so working on a comprehensive collector's reading list for you guys, complete with his main series releases, as well as graphic novels, mini-series, one-shots, team-ups and guest appearances, and it is now finished for everyone to enjoy. Of course, we do have a shorter suggested reading with links to collected editions, both of which you can find in the link on the sidebar and the wiki link at the top of the page, or here. Below is the list I've compiled, so if you see any errors or missing comics you think are necessary (I'll say I did leave out a few guest appearances), please leave a comment below.
Classic Era - Lee, Wright, Miller
*Annuals #2 and #3 not included (they were reprints of previous issues)
2000's - Smith, Mack, Bendis, Brubaker
Shadowland - Diggle
Marvel NOW - Waid
All-New All-Different - Soule
I really only want to watch Defenders because of Daredevil Season 3, and I have watched and enjoyed Daredevil and Jessica Jones, but not really interested in Luke Cage or Iron First and their roles in Defenders, or the MCU for that matter anyway. Are they essential? Will I be totally lost?
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I'm just saying.
Typhoid Mary came 5+ years earlier. She ravaged Daredevil in every way imaginable - mind, body, heart and - given that he's a Catholic - soul.
Repeatedly antagonizing him to let him know something foul was afoot as she slowly destroyed him from every angle. She got him to the lowest point I could ever imagine for Matt Murdock ... he asked an enemy for help. And only then was he killed (or so she thought).
The fact that she ruined him all the way down to that level without actually laying a hand on him except to give him false hope of being saved at the end is just great. She broke that man on the inside.
Bane came out some years later. He, too, likes upsetting power structures and inserting himself into them. He, too, likes finding a worthy opponent and ruining them. And so he ... does almost the same thing Mary did. Except any psychological warfare imposed on Batman is accidental, as a result of releasing the Arkham inmates in an effort to wear Batman down physically with an endless gauntlet (sound familiar?) until he is weak enough to capitalize on.
Then he breaks his back after taking, as Mary would put it, "that last inch" from him.
Bane is Typhoid Mary minus the emotional ruination skills and on steroids. That's pretty much it.
Change my mind.
I am a big Gothamite so obviously I'm gutted it having a final limited season and all but what's everyone's opinions on the show and how it compared to all of these other DC / Marvel TV shows?
Also, when where the highs and lows of Arrow, Flash, Daredevil and Supergirl and when do you think is the best time to pull the plug?
I think Gotham was very under appreciated, the show was always about Jim Gordon and nobody really got that, I agree it was jarring and ill advised to have all the villains around before Batman but in a logical sense, having Batman born as a result of a city going to hell, as a result of all the villains, as the only saviour left makes for a far more rewarding outcome than just having a random man in bat suit catching criminals with no real reason to exist.
I would also say that having the mob explored at length in the first season was never really done in live action television and many origins of certain characters have been ripped straight outa the comics, I would say that many needless liberties have been made though with certain characters leaving you frustrated and scratching your head but that happens in any show
I would encourage people to tune in for the entire final season as the film makers have stated that they are leaving nothing on the table and going all out, we are going to see Batman soon enough and a time jump has been hinted, they are also using the actual Batman Begins suit in a modified look and they are going the Batman Zero Year route so can't wait to see how all the characters will look in their final forms.
I always said though that they should have aged up Bruce to his latter teens but David Mazouz and Camren Bicondova (Selina) have all been amazing for their ages and don't get enough credit and was a shame that the show was hamstrung by Warner Bros from the beginning not allowed to use bats and the Joker name evening though Cameron Monaghan playing all different kinds of the Joker as the Valeska brothers is head and sholders above what Jarred Leto gave us and given the opportunity, Cameron Monaghan would kill it as a big screen Joker he is that good.
We have also had our first live action bad ass butler in Sean Pertwee
Anyway my show is getting canned so forgive me for the lengthy rant, the show was kind of doomed from the start but for those who kept with it have found it incredibly rewarding over time, the city of Gotham portrayed on Gotham offered far more character in its depiction than even The Dark Knight trilogy, which was basically just average city shots from real cities etc...
Hey guys. New to the sub and first post. Since the teaser trailer for season 3 was released I have been on daredevil hype the same as previous seasons which I love so much. I have a semi good comic background but not in daredevil I have wanted to jump in for some time now but can not decide where. I was going to at the first issue but the old comic art doesn't appeal to me I'm look for 90s onwards ideally. Any thoughts,
P.s I have seen the readers guide you guys have and its awesome. Just need a bit of direction.
It was brought up in a thread yesterday that Iron Fist season 2 was surprisingly undermarketed. Like, there was only one teaser and only one official trailer. Sure, the Iron Fist Twitter and Instagram accounts were heavily used to promote the show, but as far as Netflix's end goes, it's like they didn't allocate many resources to marketing Iron Fist.
Which makes me think that maybe Netflix is sinking more capital into marketing Daredevil season 3. Which seems perfectly justifiable since after all, Daredevil season 2 came out two and a half years ago, and season 3 is going to be following up on events in season 1 which came out three and a half years ago. So maybe Netflix is just regarding Iron Fist like a sleeper show that is quietly marketed and then released, while making sure Daredevil is the one that ends that ends the Marvel Netflix year with a bang.
Does make me wonder what they've got planned for the Daredevil season 3 campaign. I'm guessing that we'll start to see some more casting announcements be made over the next four weeks as we tick down the days to the Daredevil panel at NYCC. They haven't yet made official casting announcements to confirm the return of Stephen Rider as Blake Tower, Ayelet Zurer as Vanessa Mariana, Royce Johnson as Brett Mahoney, Peter McRobbie as Father Lantom, or Matt Gerald as Melvin Potter, just to name a few (Amy Rutberg and Geoffrey Cantor don't need these announcements since they've confirmed Marci Stahl and Mitchell Ellison as being in the season already). As for trailers, I think Daredevil will get two full-length trailers, same as Jessica Jones season 2 and Luke Cage season 2. Maybe they'll release one of them in the next week or two, and then the other will be played at NYCC. (We'll just have to watch the shows' Twitter pages for hints)
I kinda think the interview circuit will also heat up in a few weeks, though it also may not really kick off until after NYCC. I don't know how they'll play it, but somehow I think Charlie Cox and Deborah Ann Woll will be the most prominent faces on the promo tour; though admittedly, I'm just spitballing and it'll really be dependent on how much Marvel wants to keep under wraps until NYCC or even the release date. (I do hope we'll finally be able to hear those podcast interviews that Deborah Ann Woll's boyfriend EJ Scott did with Elden Henson and Vincent D'Onofrio back in the spring.)
UPDATE: They've started promoting the show today, having just uploaded the post-Iron Fist season 2 teaser to Twitter. Link here.