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This is the official discussion thread for the DW Twitch Stream that is happening over the next several weeks!

The stream is here and it starts at 19:00BST (about an hour)!

If you want to see the schedule then it can be found here (if you scroll down you can get it in different time zones)

Finally, if you're unaware as to what the hell this is, here's the trailer!


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I just went to answer someone’s question about my experience being new to Classic Who and watching the entire Twitch marathon (so far) and realized that instead of burying it in a singe day thread I would start a new one. This way anyone can join the discussion on the entire marathon, give me suggestions on where to go from here, maybe share your opinion on my experience or a place for others who are new to Classic Who and watched the Marathon.

Here are my first impressions of each that I had after each run. (Sorry for the length.)

1 - Watching the 1st Doctor after Capaldi’s departure was a perfect bookend to the entire Who franchise. I personally really appreciated the history and getting to see where it all began. Yes it was slow and choppy but that added to the charm for me. Kind of like learning the background of a person you just met.

2 - At the time I watched the 2nd Doctor’s episodes I fell in love with him. Maybe it was because there weren’t that many and I wanted more or maybe because I could see him in almost all of the NuWho incarnations.

3 - Not a popular opinion I am sure, but I had a real hard time getting through his eps. I liked him enough as a character and appreciate his tenure, it was just very dry and repetitive story-wise to me. Maybe it was just Twitches choice of serials. I guess he seemed off putting to me.

4 - Loved 4. Back to the non formal doctor style. He reminded me of 2 and thinking about it now was good but did not surpass 2 for me. But then again I wasn’t around for the hype (bummer I know) so he was the same to me as all the others.

5 - Oddly enough I loved 5 a whole lot. I was expecting either crotchety or goofy and surprisingly found him different from all previous doctors. Maybe this was the incarnation that finally put him together as one being with both attributes. I also think the storylines were great,

6 - It was hard going in knowing a bit about the difficulties behind the scenes and not think that must have been effecting his performance. I did not like him his first few episodes but he did end up growing on me. His stories were interesting enough to over look anything else.

7 - I expected this doctor to be a kind of throw away doctor because it was close to the end but so far have been pleasantly surprised at how much his tenure just keeps the Doctor Who story going. Can’t wait until Monday!

I am definitely going to find and watch the 8th Doctor’s movie.

Any suggestions on missing episodes for any doctor that wasn’t on Twitch? Or where to go from here?

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I just finished the 1996 movie, and am absolutely in love with the Eighth Doctor (and, more importantly, his amazingly sexy TARDIS console). I want more, but I'm also concurrently watching the classic series from the very beginning, just now nearing the end of Hartnell's first season. My question is, should I hold off reading the Eighth Doctor Adventure novels until I've watched all of Doctors 1-7, or is it similar to the revived series, in that, while they do reference previous incarnations, knowledge of the classic episodes is not required to understand what's going on?

I ask this because the first book in the series is "The Eight Doctors", and I worry that it will be one of those self-indulgent moments in Doctor Who (sort of like Day of the Doctor or the Titan Comics "Four Doctors" miniseries), where previous incarnations play a major role and it can be difficult to enjoy unless you have familiarity with previous versions. If that's the case (and if that happens often in the EDAs), I wanna hold off on reading them until I've seen all of the rest of the doctors.

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The positive counterpart to the post I made four days ago.

  1. Bad Wolf / The Parting Of The Ways - This is an incredibly dark, incredibly satisfying, incredibly bold finale from Russell T. Davies. Set in the dark, lifeless location of Satellite Five, The Parting Of The Ways shows the Daleks at their most terrifyingly ruthless, brings the Ninth Doctor and Rose Tyler's character arcs to their blissful zeniths as Rose takes the initiative to save the world in a way the Doctor can't, and devastates the audience by killing off pretty much everyone except Rose. We wouldn't have another finale this grim until the Capaldi years.

  2. Silence In The Library / Forest Of The Dead - One of my favorite Moffat stories. It was actually a toss-up between this and Human Nature / The Family Of Blood, but Silence In The Library stole it in the end. The eerie atmosphere and cinematography is executed incredibly well, the future world-building by Moffat is tantalizing, the character work for the Doctor, Donna and River breaks your heart as they all lose something in the Library, Murray Gold's score is luscious and the teases for the Moffat era River gives are unforgettable.

  3. The Impossible Astronaut / Day Of The Moon - Eleven had so many great stories, there was a lot of tough competition (The Time Of Angels / Flesh And Stone, The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang), but the Series 6 opener steals it because it's probably Eleven's era at it's most confident and ambitious. Transporting the series from it's usual UK setting to the gorgeous scenery of Midwest America, Moffat sets up the main arc of Series 6 and the mystery of the Silence, while telling an entertaining and exciting story and juggling five different characters (with a number of different dynamics) in the TARDIS. The resolution is also one of the most creative gambits we've ever seen from the Doctor.

  4. World And Enough Time / The Doctor Falls - It's telling that after trying to rehabilitate the Master and make Missy a companion, literally the first trip ends with everyone dying - including her. Some things are just not meant to be. Earlier in the season, Twelve touted the virtues of standing strong in the eleventh hour and doing the right thing, without recognition or reward, and he puts his money where his mouth is here. For all that they suffer, the Doctor, Bill and Nardole don't actually save anyone in the end, they only manage to buy them some more time before the Cybermen inevitably kill everyone. After such a fun, laidback season, this finale is incredibly tragic, and it's one of Capaldi's best stories.

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What are some missed opportunities for ideas you'd like to see play out? Even if they were impractical to actually be done irl?

For me, I found Jackie and Pete's story in Doomsday to be really interesting. Jackie lost her Pete in the late eighties, and has been a working class single mother for about 19 years. Whereas Pete was with jackie for two decades, and only lost his Jackie recently. This Pete has never been a father, and has lived in massive wealth for a while.

I would love to see that dramatised. Just them adjusting to eachother, despite the fact that they've lived totally different lives, and loved totally different versions of eachother. Honestly just that idea of two people from different realities living together and adjusting to that is super interesting to me, and could make a good movie on it's own in my opinion.

Im interested to hear what you guys think about missed ideas or undeveloped concepts, and what you would like to see done with them.

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The Day of the Doctor gave us a nice little cameo with Tom Baker, even though it wasn't explicit it suggests The Doctor eventually retires but not before regenerating (re-regenerate?) back into a few earlier incarnations.

On TV it's fine for a cameo (and maybe even one day a special). It could even work on audio and give the actors a chance to play it different and avoid being tied to continuity.

As fans we're likely to pick our favourites. However it might be interesting to think of this from a storytelling point of view. Why did The Curator revisit The Fourth?

I couldn't imagine him revisiting The First because of the memories of his original family. It would be too painful for him because being in that particular body with that personality is the closest he could get to feeling the same way as he did back then.

I think The Fifth is a likely choice because he's young enough for running, he could have fun with it and isn't too mired in negativity (even though his sharp wit can turn into barbed attacks). He would probably still call himself The Doctor as the life isn't that different.

The Seventh is a personal favourite so maybe I'm biased. However it could be The Doctor feels ashamed of how manipulative he got. He also died alone. The reason I'd have him revisit this incarnation is for redemption and to experience what it feels like in that body to be happy. I'd also have him become a teacher again. It could be just before his retirement as The Curator so he's only slowing down. He's also got his name already picked out as The Professor.

A similar argument could be made for The Tenth but I think knowing there's a metacrisis version out there would put him off. He's already had a second chance.

Also War and Ninth would be too painful to revisit but then maybe he'd rise to the challenge. Who knows?

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I really liked the conclusion to The Witch's Familiar. It was the right balance of getting back at Davros but not killing him in cold blood.

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Can you all recommend me any PDAs?? (Past Doctor Adventures) I’m really starting to enjoy this range and am reading illegal alien right now!! The one I already have are,, •Ten Little Aliens •Dreams Of Empire •Last Of The Gaderene •Festival of Death •Illegal Alien

Please do leave a comment!!!

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This is the official discussion thread for the DW Twitch Stream that is happening over the next several weeks!

The stream is here and it starts at 19:00BST (about an hour)!

If you want to see the schedule then it can be found here (if you scroll down you can get it in different time zones)

Finally, if you're unaware as to what the hell this is, here's the trailer!


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Listening to all of the Big Finish episodes for the 8th Doctor has really turned him into probably my favorite incarnation of the Doctor. For those of you that have also listened to these - what's your favorite Arc?

  • Monthly Range with Charley
  • 8th Doctor Adventures with Lucie
  • Dark Eyes
  • Doom Coalition
  • Ravenous

My personal favorite is probably the Monthly Range. Charley is one of my favorite companions (she's clever, independent, fun, AND not from the 21st century!), and as it's the beginning of his time the Doctor is much happier and more carefree.

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With Series 11 on the horizon, coming with a huge overturn both in front of and behind the camera, it's got me thinking and reminiscing more about the two previous production shifts (of the New era), in Series 1 and Series 5. I think, looking back, considering all that went on, these are both remarkable series, and will no doubt remain in high esteem for years to come.

So what are your favourite episodes, elements and characters of these two series, and what aspects do you think played a part in their success that should hopefully be replicated in Series 11?

For me, I think both do an incredible job of re-establishing the show, particularly its range of possible stories and settings, while also telling really strong narrative arcs that tie everything together. I still remember when the crack turned up in Cold Blood and ate Rory, and this otherwise innocuous story suddenly had huge ramifications for the whole season. And I also remember as a kid watching the Doctor's 'turn of the Earth' speech in Rose (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvXDD2shejg) and having the show 'click' for me on some level.

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My least favorite story from Series 10 is the Monk Trilogy. It's an absolute mess that changes the character of the Monks in between episodes. Extremis isn't that bad, I quite liked it. The Pyramid At the End of the World completely changes the Monks and drags on. The Lie of Land is a complete and udder mess. So Monks are as weak as glass now? This is what you expect when you get 3 different writers on one story. At some point I will make a whole big rant on this.

Anyways, what's your least favorite Series 10 story?

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This is the official discussion thread for the DW Twitch Stream that is happening over the next several weeks!

The stream is here and it starts at 19:00BST (about an hour)!

If you want to see the schedule then it can be found here (if you scroll down you can get it in different time zones)

Finally, if you're unaware as to what the hell this is, here's the trailer!


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So I did a random check today and the details for the next set of the Eighth Doctor sage 'Ravenous' have made it online:

Having reunited his companions, the Doctor decides to lift their spirits by treating each of them to a trip to their home world.

On Kaldor Liv is confronted by a face from her past, and on Earth Helen must summon all her skill and knowledge to help save her friends from eternal damnation.

But try as they might to stay out of danger, dark forces are emerging. Dark enough to strike fear into the hearts of a Time Lord.

2.1 Escape from Kaldor by Matt Fitton

Returning to a home world she’d rather forget, Liv reluctantly accompanies Helen to the grand opening of a luxury shopping mall. But when a glitch in the system sends the Robots of Death on a rampage, Liv’s past comes crashing down about her.

2.2 Better Watch Out by John Dorney

The Doctor hopes to take Liv’s mind off recent events by treating his companions to a traditional European Christmas. But not everybody is full of the spirit of Christmas when a wave of misery follows the Krampus as they run through the streets of Salzburg.

2.3 Fairytale of Salzburg by John Dorney

With the Doctor and most of the population condemned to hell, Liv and Helen race against time to discover the source of all this chaos, and to find the one man who can save the people of Salzburg from eternal damnation.

2.4 Seizure by Guy Adams

As if it wasn’t enough to be trapped in the labyrinth of a dying TARDIS and pursued by a ghost, the team find themselves face to face once more with the Eleven. But the Doctor has bigger things to worry about when he discovers they’re being hunted by the only creature to strike fear into the hearts of a Time Lord: The Ravenous.

Some interesting details here.....thoughts?

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As most of you know, the TARDIS is designed to disguise itself as inconspicuous historical items using the Chameleon Circuit. However, the Doctor’s TARDIS has had a broken circuit the entire series and is stuck as a police box. Would anyone want to see the TARDIS change into other things?

I would love for it to turn into a recurring gag at least for part of a season. The Doctor gets frustrated every time she can’t find the TARDIS, and it leads to her breaking the Circuit herself.

I know many purists might cringe, but that is why I propose only a temporary fix. And whenever there is an alien story, they could use the police box as the default look for the spaceship.

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I love the darker tones and styles of many of Tennant's and Capaldi's episodes. I love the scary mythology the Satan pit/Impossible planet set up with the lost almost Babylonian-esque city built deep within the Asteroid. The post-apocalyptic scenes and mutant handmines of Skaro in the Magician's apprentice. The horrifying veil and castle in Heaven sent. The Ood being bred like animals in Planet of the Ood etc. This approach and style is the show at the best I think.

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