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Posted byLamba Team Bravo Lvl. 45 months ago

Devs of HDTF try to play victim and blames the community for how mismanaged they are. Fuck this game.

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level 1

I like how they don’t realize that it’s not just the bugs/stolen assets that made the game bad. It had the functionality of a wet toaster, the plot was one of the worst I’ve ever seen, the character looks stupid, gman look alike couldn’t pronounce Black Mesa right. And the title is very misleading.

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17 points · 5 months ago · edited 5 months ago

And the title is very misleading.

to be fair, that's a bad statement to end your comment because it's not missleading. the title is exactly what the plot is about, even if it turns out in a twist that the guy in the suit wasn't freeman.

But I wonder what they mean with "lies" in their steam post. After the release there were many false accusations of stolen assets but they were talking about lies before release. And the demo did have a shitton of stolen assets so what are the lies? "the design is bad", "story is cringy", "it plays like crap"?
If you see those statements as lies instead of criticism, you shouldn't design a game >_>'

level 3

Didn’t one of the developers cause a delay because of a mental breakdown?

level 4

..did they? I thought it was just trying getting things done in time. googles
This thread mentions it, but also doubts it. Sounds like it's likely false as I can't find any informations on it. Well, the devs are definitely right about the lies part, because many accusations are pulled out of people's bum and finding the truth or real issues can be a pain because of that.

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City 10 Metrocop2 points · 5 months ago

He probably had a breakdown because of just how awful the other devs were making it.

level 5

That’s what I thought

level 2
12 points · 5 months ago

I dont know, the plot was fine, just executed badly. The general idea of "a soldier on the field during the BM incident wants revenge on Freeman" is not really all that bad of an idea. Even the twist itself where the guy turns out not to be Freeman could have been interesting. Its just that the general narrative flow and wrapup was extremely bad.

level 3

I agree. This main plot did have an interesting concept and could have led to another perspective of Gordon Freeman's character. Shame that it was dealt like a 12-year old's fan-fic.

level 3
Stop touching me1 point · 5 months ago

Fine plot? Oh my god, dude, don't make me die from laughing!

level 1
Forget About Freeman38 points · 5 months ago

Lol they basically said they uploaded the wrong version. What a bunch of knobheads.

level 2
CAAAAAAAAAAAAAARLLLLLLLLLLL3 points · 5 months ago

They've said that from Day 1 already, when the negative reviews came pouring in. However, nothing's been done about it yet, so it seems highly unlikely that this is actually the truth.

level 1
  • Have an idea for a game

  • Make a mod/techdemo to get support

  • People hate it and call it a scam and/or one of the worst mods to HL with bad gameplay, bad story and bad design.

  • Ignore that, get investors and get other developers involved

  • Mismanage the everloving fuck out of the entire project

  • Do not take criticism into account and ban anyone as trolls

  • Lie about the game

  • Delay

  • Delay

  • Delay*5

  • Do not betatest

  • Release the "game"

  • Charge fucking 25$ for it

  • Hindenburg.jpg

  • Bitch on steam forums how the community pressured you and spread lies about you instead of being constructive critics filled with understanding and compassion.

  • Cry yourself to sleep

  • No profits.

  • ???

  • Lawsuit.

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Yours in infinite finality23 points · 5 months ago

Incredible. I’m speechless!

They need to drop the paid model. This game is not worth money. They need to refund their buyers and move on.

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Lamba Team Bravo Lvl. 4Original Poster17 points · 5 months ago

I doubt a refund would even be possible because all of their revenue probably went to paying back whatever of the 80k that was invested in the game by independent investors they could. I would imagine those same investors are also preventing them from just giving it away.

level 3
Yours in infinite finality12 points · 5 months ago

Very true indeed. They're going to be in debt for a long time.

level 2

Tbh I would not even play it if it was free. This game seems like a complete waste of time and I have no sympathy for those who steal other people’s content.

Fuck HDTF and fuck the devs of that game.

level 1

That's pretty embarrassing, what a shitshow of a game.

level 1
[pain] [pain]13 points · 5 months ago

Expect one of their reps to drop in here and try to justify/shift blame with a lengthy comment lol

level 1

Where was this level of writing during the game?

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hl2.exe has stopped working9 points · 5 months ago

hilarious.

they say they were """"""""forced"""""""" to release the game early because of lies and rumors going around but they weren't forced to do shit. no one broke into their offices and held them at gunpoint to release it. they consciously and purposefully released the game in this buggy, broken, unfinished state because they genuinely thought that people would pay for it. absolutely despicable that they thought they would be able to get away with this, and then have the audacity to straight up LIE in the faces of whomever they thought would listen.

We will release the actual version of the game we were supposed to release

why didn't you just, uhh, yknow, DO THAT? ORIGINALLY? AT LAUNCH?

this is the most "this isn't our fault and we're sorry you did this to us" apology i've ever seen. i think that honestly the best thing they can do is completely abandon HDTF. make it free and sever all ties. no amount of updates and wishful thinking will fix the reputation that HDTF, RRE, and Berkan have now; and it doesn't help that allegations of him not paying any of his employees are floating around. make new actually finished games that are worth the money and scrape your way up the grave you dug yourself into.

level 2

It was a lie thought, it wasn't wrong version. It was most up-to date one they have.

level 2

A thing I don’t understand is that they updated that version of hdtf. If it was a wrong version, why didn’t you take it off, offer refunds for everyone and release the version you intended, instead of updating the current version?

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Pushing buttons is my talent-2 points · 5 months ago

They were completely forced to release the game early, the post even says why in the second paragraph:

The Indigogo campaign was started and raised nothing, but he didn't want to give up on it. He had to make his idea a reality. He went and found an investor, a company, and a team. That is when the actual project started.

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"HOW'S THAT CAN TASTE NOW, HUH?"1 point · 5 months ago

Berkan could’ve just severed ties with the investors and worked on the game as a passion project then if it was taking too long, have the $20 price tag and state that it was needed to help the damages and loses, and given his employees recompense out of his own wallet during development.

There are mods that go above and beyond even their original made for free. Explain to me why HDTF needed investors involved to begin with.

level 4
Pushing buttons is my talent2 points · 5 months ago

Because devs need money and the indigogo earned basically nothing

level 5
"HOW'S THAT CAN TASTE NOW, HUH?"1 point · 5 months ago

Then tell them you can no longer pay them and hire new ones (should they leave) to ask if they can try and work for free upfront.

Again, whole teams have created professionally-made mods days for completely free, with a tip jar on the side (if your game’s great, money shouldn’t need to be your first concern).

The money for HDTF, if they had tried to make a good game, would’ve gotten it back with the $20. There’s no reason why Berkan couldn’t have done any of the above.

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Pushing buttons is my talent2 points · 5 months ago

Because Berkan was a random person that tried to startup a double A company with no prior knowledge of business

level 1
There is no distance between us10 points · 5 months ago

I don’t understand why should I pay for THIS.

level 1

The HDTF situation just gets more and more pathetic every time i check

level 1
7 points · 5 months ago · edited 5 months ago

Just a heads up, this isn't the devs talking, it's Berkan taking, many of us after reading that told him "wtf that's blaming the community, berkan you should rephrase the whole thing with our input", and yet again, we were ignored..

Ps: this announcement was already released on February, why is this being posted just now? Aren't we all done with this.... game?

level 2
"HOW'S THAT CAN TASTE NOW, HUH?"1 point · 5 months ago

Just a heads up, this isn't the devs talking, it's Berkan taking

But, if that’s the case, why is he referring to himself in the third-person throughout?

Ps: this announcement was already released on February, why is this being posted just now? Aren't we all done with this.... game?

Yeah, that’s a little weird though. Don’t know why OP is posting this now of all times (unless it’s for people that don’t know, but even then).

level 3

He uses thirdperson cus again, he's a moron and instead of admitting he's to blame, he put the blame on both the community and the rest of the developers by speaking in their place..

level 3

I don't think the guy wrote that by himself. Last time I checked, he spoke broken english and couldn't even write one sentence without making a grammatical error. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame him for struggling speaking a language other than his mother tongue. But I think that's why "he's" referring to himself in the third-person. Just my two cents.

level 1
Stop touching me6 points · 5 months ago

Fucking morons

level 1
is that the door?4 points · 5 months ago

The community isn’t making the game though

level 1

After the game is released, people started to harass us even more and generate more lies about us.

While I don't think actual harassment is justified the developers aren't making things better with weak excuses.

level 1
3 points · 5 months ago

They still haven't uploaded the "correct" version, right?

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I fucked up your face.2 points · 5 months ago

Of course not.

level 1
4 points · 5 months ago

Why are people talking about this game again/still?

level 1

No one has even contacted us to hear about our side of the story in a long time. To be honest, we don't actually think that people care about anything but the drama since none of the responses that we've given has been shared with the community.

If it's a shit game, why even contact them? You can clearly see it's bad. If EA for example make a buggy, badly made mess you don't contact them about it. You can clearly see it's a poorly made mod.

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