It's gametime boys. T-minus 5 hours and change...here we gooooo
Cole snapped on 1985!!!!
But in such a j cole way, amazing
Exactly! Probably why it’s my favorite from my initial listen of the album.
'Cause that's exactly what's expected when your skin black
They wanna see you dab, they wanna see you pop a pill
They wanna see you tatted from your face to your heels
Man. Cole keeping it real.
You ain't thinkin' 'bout the people that's lookin' like me and you
True, you got better shit to do
Then he follows it up with this, with such perfect flow it's ridiculous. You can fucking hear his disgust so clearly when he says you get better shit to do
Def my favorite song on this album for sure.
It has the same message as the story of o.j by Jay Z, which I think is dope
Its no forest hills drive but I'm still a fan
This is probably my exact opinion. I still gonna be listening to this for a while tho🔥
The only thing separating his last two albums from being the best, in my opinion, is the simplified production. But I know it’s to emphasize the lyrics so I can’t not like them. The lyrics are some of his best. It’s hard for me to rank any of his last three albums
simplified production?! I guess you didn't hear him on the record when he said: "I've been on a quest for the next wave "...
Then he said “never mind that was just a segue”
I think I like it better than FHD personally. The concept (and the execution), the lyrics, the beats, the flows. We’ll see how it ages though.
I don't think he'll ever top Forest Hills Drive
Kevin’s heart is so fire
KOD = game changer.
That line where he talked about how no one's worthy to be on his shit gave me goosebumps. So crazy he's on his 5th album now. I still remmeber when born sinner and yeezus came out on the same day. Time fucking fliess
Imma drop the album same day as Kanye, just to show the boys I'm the man now like Wanyá
“N I don’t mean no disrespect, I praise legends but this what’s next, the boy’s sick cant disinfect “ like gahdamn ...
where did he say this? I wanna check it out
Bruh there's 15 minutes of Leaks of the album on this sub
I'm too hyped for this shit, I've been checking the sub on and off all day to see if anything dropped early, I'll be up all night listening
Got me up all night
All I'm singin is Cole songs
This album has made me realize that the people around me are untrustworthy and don't deserve my attention. "For acceptance niggas will do anything." Photograph and the outro are a rude awakening that I think will change the relationships I have with people and end the ones that are toxic.
Holy fuck the flow on FRIENDS
Any truth to the rumors that Cole is actually dropping another album soon called “The Fall Off” as per his last songs title?
We cant afford another damnation incident 😂
bro, im still waiting for February when shit get scary when they drop.....
I think it’s probably referring to how the mumble rappers are going to “fall off” their game eventually when people get bored of their shit rather than another album. Almost a “beginning of the end” idea.
Edit: I take that back
I think this'll be the one that'll finally put Cole in everybody's G.O.A.T conversation.
I really don’t. I think you’re entitled to like the album, but I feel like a lot of people will find the album - and I hate to use this word in the context of J Cole because it’s gets used a lot - but I think a lot of people will find the album boring.
I think the album is pretty good. Nowhere near as good as Forest Hills, but I’m still enjoying it. But to say that this is the album that make people view him as one of the GOATs is a little optimistic.
J Cole stans will love the album, and that’s completely fine, and fans of hip-hop in general, like myself, will find a lot of things to like on the album, but it’s not good enough to fire him into the upper echelons of the all time greats.
My favourite track, musically, and most definitely lyrically (🔥🔥🔥) is 1985, which says a lot really, haha. I guess I’ll hold out for the next album that’s hopefully coming soon🤞
But hey, that’s just my opinion.
Well put. This is exactly how i feel about it.
Word, well put. It's fairly common for me to take a while to get into an album, the first play through is usually "meh" because of the hype; but then I come back, listen to them individually, and I'll start to really enjoy some... But yeah; first playthrough I was hanging my head from how many times it went back to him just repeating the same phrase, over, and over. Really repetitive to listen to as an album - I'm starting to really enjoy these on their own though.
Cole and Kendrick are the only two currently relevant rappers that should be in that conversation. Choosing between the two is so hard
'90s - pac and big '00s - eminem and jay z '10s - kendrick and cole
every decade has a crazy duo that push the industry so much, that they get out of it and grow on their own. then you'll have the waynes, drakes, big seans, that are amazing artists, but grow inside the industry and can't brake the barrier. and to choose one (of each duo) will always be a personal choice, 'cause they're so good that it's impossible to say with certainty who is the real G.O.A.T.
How can you forget Nas
Preach. Nas never gets the respect he deserves. Much like J Cole...
nuh im pretty sure Nas is given his respect. The made "the most creative LP to ever hit stores"
Ye needs to be there somewhere
Ye, nas, andre
00's - to present = Kanye as well
Lyrically, he may not be on the same level. But he can't be left out of the talks of GOAT status. What he's done in the industry is unprecedented.
oh, but that goes into a different category for me. i have a whole vision of the rap game and the people in it, so to be understood i would have to explain all. i don't care tho...
Kanye and Dr. Dre, for me, are the the ones that define culture. Dre did it with nwa, and aftermath, beats, the whole thing. Kanye did it by his music, the music he produced, his sneakers, clothes, and himself (Kanye is also a product of his). but i can't put them in the same list as other rappers because they're so much more than that, work so differently and will go down differently. that's why i don't see his work in the industry as goat material, but as a type of messiah of the game.
Couldn’t agree more. Well said
I'm not sure what barrier you mean, but I'm pretty sure Drake (prolly Weezy too) has broken it
Joey Bada$$ is up there as well
Love his work so far but I️ feel like he needs another classic to get into the GOAT conversation
Their definitely in their own lane together, no one is really fucking with them on that level, not even Drake if im being honest with you.
Drake is no where close. You can’t be in the conversation if you have ghost writers. Same thing with sports and PEDs. Also Drake makes chart toppers not critically good music.
I agree 100% but if there had to be a third... it’s him
I️ see where you are coming from, I️t all depends on what your criteria for being the GOAT is. For me I️ want concepts and storytelling and other aspects of rap other than mainstream popularity. Although I️ love a lot of Drake songs, there are a lot of other rappers who I️ think have better artistic talent
Edit: Just wanted to say that I️ prefer old drake over new drake any day
Nah I'd say joey badass
I think their all in there own lane I've always like the 3 lane theory Hip hop:cole Hip Pop :Kdot pop:drake
It's made up in this video
Sure Kendrick had a poppy song or two in the last album but I don’t think that makes him “hip pop”
Songs like swimming pools tho and bdkmv
Yes I️ agree about that, I️ guess I️ never thought about I️t like that Bc my favorite Kendrick songs are always the hip hop or experimental tracks not the somewhat poppy tracks
Honestly I like everything he and cole do not a single album I flat out dislike
For cole I can listen to like sideline story and cole world but also like land of the snakes or foldin clothes
And kendrick from swimming pools to rigamortus and mad city it's all amazing
I️ agree I️ can listen to anything by the two of them. My personal favorites from Kendrick though are Sherane and u
Every Kendrick album has a different sound, and I️ can confidently say that TPAB is definitely not pop. GKMC is all hip hop.
yeah, i’m there
Nah I don’t think he’ll ever be in that conversation mate
He needs at least one classic first lol
FHD is easily a classic.
KOD is straight heat 🔥🔥🔥
So who do we think 1985 is dissing specifically?
All the Lil mumble rappers
Edit: wait not so sure about this, lil pump isn’t black right? So why would he talk about him like he is black.
Could also be lil yachty
Lil (insert drug/gun reference)
Lil pump def, but the line about being black makes me think smokepurpp, yachty, all these random ass "lil" rappers and soundcloud rappers
Ya my first thought was pump but all the references to being black made me question it
LETS FUCKING GO!!!!!!!
ATM goes harrrdddd
So does motiv8
So many slaps on this
i heard something about the release being at 11:15...any truth to that?
Yea iTunes releases stuff a little early. Happened with DAMN.
Is it available on Amazon music?
Dropped!! See y’all in 45
KOD (the track) goes hard as shit oh yes
Finished my first listen. Wow. Powerful messages over kicking snares. Hip hop needed this. Impressed after the first time through . I will need a few more listens to say without a doubt but it's as good as 2014fhd, immediate reaction. Definitely harder than 4yeo. Waiting on that Cole Kendrick album tho still!
BRACKETS was very thought provoking. Focusing on financial standings from each level of society plus the beginning and end adding his own perspective of the fucked tax brackets was very nice. A decent glimpse away from the overall theme of the album
Photography is 🔥
That beat had me mesmerized
i didnt get it? how did it fit in to this album?
HOLY FUCK ATM IS FIRE AS FUCK
Holy fuck kod and atm so far are so good
Window pain is probably my fav so far
i feel like ATM is gonna get a lot of plays just not right away
Anyone know where I can listen to the album? I recently got rid of Spotify due to religious reasons but like it's Cole and I really want to hear the album.
if you don’t mind me asking, what religious reasons?
I'm Muslim, music is haram(not allowed) but 95% of Muslims listen to it anyway. I recently came across the story of why it's banned and thought at the very least I should cut down.
Its haram if you are really into it and believe it, do what the artists tell you to do or like become in a state of trance till you cant think for yourself when listening to the music. Other than that music is still fine in islam. Even the early muslims played the old drums (dk what its called) to greet the prophet if i rmb correctly
Could you explain why music is haram? I'm genuinely curious.
If I'm honest I don't think I would be able to do the explanation any justice and I don't want to give any misleading information, but defo Google it my man.
Edit: here this is the the video that first made me contemplate this decision https://youtu.be/7iF0mYjsyAY
The person referred to Adam here is Prophet Adam the first human in the Abrahamic religions and this story talks about his sons. Shaytaan is the Arabic name for Satan. If you have any other questions let me know I'll try help where I can.
Lol this dude stupid, music isnt haram.
All music is banned?
Music is like oxygen to me, I can't imagine living without it.
As for your original question that nobody answered: if you really want to listen to it when it drops without paying for a streaming service, you'll have to either buy it from an online store like Google Play music or you can pirate it...
Thanks man I ended up getting Amazon music 30 day free trial
For the music being haram it was to do with instruments and how music led to adultery. As for more recent times most of the artists these days have some very crass lyrics which are clearly immoral. Having said that Cole is clearly different and I would probably still listen to him acapella if I could.
Ah yes, I forgot about the trials! That's a surefire solution!
Whispering quietly: If you need the album in MP3 format, PM me.
The fuck thats ridiculous
Lmao ok dickhead
Where did he say he had no understanding of Cole?
But he said, since its Cole, he wants to find a way to listen to him somehow, telling us that he's clearly aware of Cole's impact.
That's a great point, but you look like a fool for basing all of that on an assumption which couldn't be further from the truth.
Real talk though I don't know for you man, maybe you should listen to his discography and question if Cole would've had the same mindset as you approaching this conversation.
40 more minutes boys let’s go
Is it coming out at 12 eastern time?
Yes. Ib tweeted it was
im nervous... why am i nervous. IS ANYONE ELSE NERVOUS!
LIL PUMP GOT RAPED!
Does anyone know if this is going to be released in vinyl and where to get it?
Ohhhhh shiiieeettttt mang
FRIENDS is so good man
J Cole albums slowly turning into Black Mirror episodes.
The man is on another level.
Cole could be going all out on this one It might be his best
Am I the only one that reckons this album is just fucking shit. Lacklustre beats on average hooks
It's okay. I was hoping the simple beats to emphasize lyrics was a 4yeo phase. I just don't see we can't have another album with KOD's fire lyrics with the same banger beats that made me love FHD. If I wanted to listen purely for words I'd listen to slam poetry or something.
The beats are meant to be simplified to emphasize the lyrics. Did you miss Cole’s first three albums? The production was top notch.
It's just alright. Typical J. Cole. He never seems to evolve like Kendrick.
2014 FHD was the she shit but will he out fart it...?
that would be cool
We almost there boys
Lets gooo almost 12 am
Just finished it and while I need to do some listens this is one of his strongest albums imo. It has both bangers like KOD and also more thought provoking songs that he's known for. Not really sure how I felt about the kill Edward features though.
BRACKETS is quite cool, KOD is next level too
This is a satire by J. Cole?
The first part maybe
Yeah, like a satire then revelation at the end.
7 great tracks on this tape: photograph, atm, motiv8, kevins heart, brackets, friends, window pane
Never thought one song could relate to my messed up relationship with my mom like Once an Addict does. Luckily my dad is a superhero and plays both parent roles.
Verse 2 on Brackets is awesome
Pretty underwhelming album tbh.
The cut off is pretty nice
Bumpin the intro right now!! Cole world!
As you enter the symphony
I don't know if i liked the trap-influence on the album?
It’s so god damn good
Friends is the best song for 420. Fuck I love J Cole
is it just me or does anyone hear drakes flow from started from the bottom on 1985
Is anyone else pretty disappointed with this album? Like I really love jcole but I was expecting more.
I was pretty disappointed until I changed the order of the tracks. Realized I hated the order not the songs themselves.
First time listening to J Cole. Really impressed with KOD. It kind of reminds me of Damn. though. Which isn’t bad. But it has an overall production & tone similar to Damn. Production is great. Really solid album as a whole. Not at all what I expected.
THE LAST TRACK ON KOD IS AN INTRO TO COLE NEXT ALBUM THE FALL OFF , KOD WAS JUST THE INTRO , WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE LAST OF J COLE
He really snapped with FRIENDS, wow. so much truth in that song. Once an Addict is great too. Both of those are def in my Top 10 Cole.
The rest...is good to average, lacking greater meaning for me for the most part. I think this is his most underwhelming record for sure.
kill edward is 100% unimpressive. THATS who he chooses for his sole feature?
Kill Edward is J Coles voice pitched down FWIW
ahh makes sense. nonetheless- could DEF do w/o this “alias”.... Cole seems to have got lost in a whirlwind of social consciousness, but has been unable to translate that into GOOD music. too preachy, w lackluster beats. im gonna start calling Cole “Nas 2.0”. he may be able to take the crown from nas for the best rapper w the worst best selction at this point.
love Cole- super talented - but this one let me down just about as much as Logic did w “Everybody”... & that’s saying something.
Cole is definitely Nas 2.0. One amazing album but other than a few gems here and there, pretty overehelmingly average. The sad thing is that J. Cole could absolutely be top 10 if he takes time to put some polish on these albums.
so much for triple platinum with no features /s
Photograph has a ski mask the slump godish flow
Good Lord, The Cut Off
Window pain - outro...sheeeeesh🔥🔥
What does kevins heart sound like, its too reminiscent of another track from somewhere
Thought that about Photograph too, like I had heard it before. Loving the album after one listen...
Anyone who disses him after this album is jealous
Great album overall, just wish it'd be more like an hour.
What song is kevins heart reminiscent of?
DOPE . Lit beats and every line a reason to contemplate.
Anybody got a link to that purple pic that he had up on twitter??
Photograph seemed like a filler song to me..
Was it anything that i missed?
I get that its about how obsessed we are with social media etc. but didnt quite see how it fit into this album
I’m old and out of touch with music but I’ve always liked j cole, is this album worth buying?
i love it so far, think it’s worth it
Not really feeling it sadly. Hate to agree with the criticism of Cole but I find this album a little boring and flat.
4 Your Eyez Only wasn't my favorite from him but in retrospect compared to everyone else it was still one of the best rap albums I've heard. The title track is a career highlight, some of the other songs like Changes and Immortal are awesome, he has some goofy or fun songs like Neighbours and Foldin Clothes or talks about love in songs like She's Mine. It's a great album. I feel like he is sitting on a pedestal trying to preach to rappers below him in this one or making his production basic like theirs. Idk, maybe it will click in later. The ambition is clearly there with KOD and he seems to think it's great, just that it means Kids on Drugs, King Overdosed and Kill Our Demons at once is a lot to unpack
that incessant descending riff on Window Pain was totally unnecessary
kod and atm could pass for logic songs
I'm giving it a 2/10, if not, 1/10. I'm so sad about how it turned out. What a waste 😞
Yeah this dude an Illuminati sell out
the perfect album to help me sleep tonight
the pre hype doesn't hold weight to the actual album. it's just anticipation. you ruin it for yourself expecting that everything said before was true. also who makes a call on an album this quicky. i've almost gone through it twice and i haven't even heard the motha fucka yet
Nobody said I expected everything said to be true; I said everyone’s perception has influence on my opinion, I’d already thought it’d be good and you cannot deny the illusory effect here
I get there are albums you need to digest but most of the time I know almost instantly if it’s made in a way I’d enjoy, it’s like different methods of eating food the end game is the same digestion but the way you eat it how it is presented you, you already know you do not like so it heavily effects the whole experience