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LPT: if you are going to order flowers for your mother for MOTHER'S DAY (this Sunday), call a local florist, not a national flower service... the national place will just call a local place, charge you more and take a cut of the money.

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2.0k points · 3 months ago

On a related note, check out the big company's Facebook page on mothers day to see all the people complaining about fucked up orders. Same for valentine's day.

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It's kind of hilarious. I've seen expectations vs reality. Im not using a national flower service ever.

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There is a lot of misunderstanding in this thread. Proflowers is completely different from -1-800-pro-flowers/FTD/etc

Pro-flowers=the flowers are shipped directly from the field to the recipient, they arrive with the little plastic tubes of water attached to each stem. The recipient has to remove the tubes, and arrange the flowers themselves. The flowers however areuch fresher than from any florist simply because they don’t go through a middle man to get to the recipient.

FTD/1-800-flowers/etc= this is the one that is ridiculous. They just send your order to a local florist and they take a huge cut of your money.

It’s not hard to use the manic google to find ‘florist near ______’ and skip that middle man.

So, for people like me who don’t mind arranging flowers AND I hate when flowers don’t last....proflowers is the perfect solution.

My mother in law, however prefers the bouques to show up already made, even if it wilts in 2 days.

So, know your flower order——-

Proflowers=super fresh, but in a box.

1-800-flowers= the least flowers for your money, uses a middleman who takes a HUGE cut.

Local florist=medium fresh, supports local business, looks stunning (usually), better customer service, bonus:you can specialize your order. For example, when I order for the MIL I always ask them to ‘girly it up a bit’. They add extra ribbons and glitter/grills. She loves it. You could ask for ‘no red flowers, or only shades of blue, etc.

Know your recipient

Me=local florist or proflowers My mother in law=local florist only. It’s a guaranteed win/win/win

level 4

The Bouqs is similar to Proflowers except the flowers come arranged already. They're shipped directly from growers and packaged to enable you to just take them out of the box and plop them in a vessel (or you can add a vase when you buy them and all you have to do is take the whole thing out of the box). They have a huge, really tasteful selection and I've been impressed with the quality every time I've used them in the last few years.

I've never ordered from Urban Stems (because The Bouqs is for the most part cheaper and I already trust them) but they apparently have a similar business model. Smaller selection than The Bouqs but gorgeous arrangements.

I love flowers :)

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Bouqs doesn’t ship from farms in all areas. The orders are distributed to local florists, such as myself, depending on where you live. They give the consumer suggestions of fresh cuts we probably don’t have in stock and don’t tell us what they are charging the consumer. For example, we will get an order saying the customer wants 10-12 stems of all yellow flower, 5-6 stems should be focal blooms. We don’t have any idea whether or not we are loosing money or giving the customer a fair value. The company appears to be very socially progressive and fair to the customer. The reality is us local, small businesses get screwed.

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41 points · 3 months ago

I have had good results with proflowers as my mom enjoys doing the arrangement / setup herself were she can generally spruce it up a bit with a few extra additions (glass marbles in the vase, etc). She is also perfectly happy with the flowers arriving a few days before or even after mothers day as it saves often on the delivery fees and avoids the peak rush.

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I'm not sure I'd agree that pro flowers will be fresher than any local florist, they're not all just middle men. Some grow their own or will have ones that are at least as fresh.

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28 points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

Did you mean to say "1-800-pro-flowers" up there in the second sentence? Or just "1-800-flowers" and it was a mistype?

Edit: Welp, ordered from Proflowers. Hope I can trust you.

level 5

My mom always loves her flowers from ProFlowers! I know some find the setup a pain but she loves it and they always last soooo long, the mother's day ones usually give her at least 2 weeks.

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This is one of my favorite things to do after valentines and mothers day. 1800flowers no longer allows photos from customers though :( took away half the fun.

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Also, if you do order through one of the big box floral retailers understand that the local florist filling the order may not have the exact flowers in the arrangement picture you see online (they match it as best as they can based on their inventory)....and make sure you order sooner rather than later, as local florists will stop taking orders once they hit their delivery capacity.

Source: am daughter of a florist

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Source: am daughter of a florist

Do you order flowers from your mother for your mother?

level 3

My dad is the florist, and yes I do

level 4

Does your mom get really good flowers because of that or just the same basic bitch flowers that everybody else buys their mother?

level 5

My dad is a really good designer, so he always brings home really neat stuff, and uses unique flowers when he has them in stock...but at the end of the day it still is a pretty arrangement in a vase.

I had some badass corsages for all of my high school dances though.

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216 points · 3 months ago

I think we're going to need pictures.

level 7

Agreed. I love vases.

level 8

Brick, are you just looking at things around the office and saying that you love them?

level 9

I love lamp.

level 10

Fun fact: Brick was a political advisor to George W. Bush!

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I love lamp.

level 8

That's a switcharoo I didn't expect

level 9

The good ol Reddit Vasearoo

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level 7

Is there a sub for this? I could look at floral arrangements

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Plot twist: your dad gets his arrangements from some other local florist and takes a cut of your money

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It seems like a missed opportunity that he doesn't use uncut flowers and make a nice arrangement that will stay alive and actually grow.

Although that would require him to grow some of the flowers he uses himself and not all florists do that.

level 7

He only purchases cut flowers from wholesalers, unfortunately.

He actually doesn’t have much of a green thumb, ironically. But, when he does garden he prefers growing herbs and veggies over flowers.

level 8

Has he tried succulents? Apparently a lot of people bad at keeping plants alive have success with them. I like them because they're cool looking though, and not because I kill stuff so I can't say if it's possible to keep them alive with a black thumb personally.

Plus a lot of them have flower like shapes so it's like having a flower constantly. And they do actually flower as well on top of that.

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I used to date this girl who was a wedding florist. Part of the job was tearing down the venue after the ceremony/reception.

She ended up bringing home fresh flowers in amazing arrangements pretty much every weekend during wedding season. The house smelled wonderful.

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The really great florists will go hand pick out the flowers they order from flower wholesale shops. When my parents ran a florist, my dad would go daily (sometimes more than once a day) to purchase the flowers. If shops just let the wholesalers pick the flowers that they deliver, sometimes the quality of flowers can be uneven.

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That was my favorite job when I was working for a florist. The flower mart was pure magic.

But yeah, the grocery stores got the meh flowers. The wholesalers always saved the really good stuff for the florists who purchased in person.

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It's kinda funny how everyone (including myself) initially assumed that flowers = female parent. And nope

level 5

Lots of people also assume my dad is gay once they find out he is a florist. Also nope.

Haha!

level 6

Hey, gays get to claim superior male fashion, cool-ass colorful parades, a rainbow flag, AND pretty flowers? Nuh uh. I love me some flowers. White tulips are my favorite.

level 4

What does your dad get her?

level 5

For Mother’s Day? This my shock you but...flowers. He usually makes a really nice arrangement for her and then gets her something else that she has asked for...I can’t think of any examples.

level 6

I mean those are their blood sweat and tears that are in those flowers. Probably means more then most they sound adorable!

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575 points · 3 months ago

She gives her mom a 20 and says "just take home your fav"

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187 points · 3 months ago

$12. Family discount.

level 5

Only 40%?

level 6

No $8

level 7

Oh, my bad.

level 8

What weird country are you from that % is the currency?

level 9

Moduloroco

level 10

Nice

level 9

Canada. It's a-metric. Boogie woogie woogie woogie.

level 10

OMG. Thanks for the earworm of the day

level 9

in what weird world are you living where discounts aren't in percentages

level 4

$20? I know who's never bought flowers for their mother

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5 points · 3 months ago

Maybe they just buy a couple roses.

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level 4

"How much for this?"

"$20"

"How much for me?"

"$20"

"I'm your daughter!"

"$40!"

level 5

You're my daughter? Oh how I've missed you

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level 3

This is like that doctor mind trap question. The florist is her dad!!

level 3

Id order from her arch rival for kicks

level 4

til florists have arch rivals

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141 points · 3 months ago

Once upon a time in Italy, some friars were behind on their belfry payments. So they opened up a small florist shop to raise funds. Since everyone liked to buy flowers from the men of God, a rival florist across town thought the competition was unfair. He asked the good fathers to close down, but they would not. He went back and begged the friars to close. They ignored him. So, the rival florist hired Hugh MacTaggart, the roughest and most vicious thug in town to "persuade" them to close. Hugh beat up the friars and trashed their store, saying he'd be back if they didn't close up shop. Terrified, they did so, thereby proving that Hugh, and only Hugh, can prevent florist friars.

level 6

Got an eye roll from my florist wife after I told her that one. And a cabbage roll.

level 6

Least expected punchline ever.

level 6

This is incredible.

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level 5

Florists are no joke, dude. There's a whole Flower Mob and everything.

level 6

Yeah i heard it's flourishing.

level 7

The sting operations have been failing.

level 8

That sounds like a thorny situation.

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level 7

I wonder if they’re petaling weed.

level 6

This is for real though. One of my dad’s biggest competitors had connections to the mob (his father got put in jail for tax evasion), he has since sold his shop but my dad really hated this guy.

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6 points · 3 months ago

Have you ever seen The Town? Good movie, naughty florist.

level 6

Jon Oliver did a video about this. Louisiana has some pretty corrupt florists.

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level 3

Just put on a man voice and use a visa gift card . " Hey ugh my name is tom johnson i want to put in an order"
"God damn it Beth i know its you"

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My mom used to own a cafe/caterer that also did fruit bouquets, and yes, every year I would try to place an order for her to make her own fruit bouquets.

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48 points · 3 months ago

This is from personal experience, couldn't find a local florist once. Ordered from a 1-800, let's say cost was 39.99.

The next time I used the florist they used, same arrangement... was more. I've had this on a couple of occasions to my surprise. Guessing it's contractual?

level 3

I had the same experience with the local florist I tried to use.

level 4

Same here, last Valentine’s Day I thought It’d cool to try to spend my money locally with a small business. I called 3 local shops and not a single one would offer me something less then $100. Two flat out said if all I want is a dozen roses to go to the grocery store. I kind of understand since vday is probably a crazy time for them and they don’t want to waste time or resources on small orders but it was still very off putting.

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Valentines and mothers day are essentially the superbowl for florists. And if you getting something the day before or day of you are a bit SOL because the shops/distributors are tapped out. The other big issue is supply and demand drives the prices through the roof! Your best bet is place an order a few weeks early and dont do roses

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12 points · 3 months ago

I've wondered the same thing, myself. Directly from the local florist ends up being more expensive than something equivalent from an online order service. There probably IS a contract... and that contract probably specifically says that the online service gets a hefty discount for bringing in business, and that they can't simply drop their in-house prices to match the online service (negating the discount). I can totally understand them picking out stock they want to get rid of since they are losing a cut to the service as a result.

I've never tried, but I'm willing to bet that if we asked for a price match to the online service, they'd do it. It's probably just that they can't ADVERTISE lower prices. But if asked, could give the same discount to an individual.

I've done the same thing with a groupon before. At least there, it's usually the shop itself advertising and selling groupons. I don't know exactly the scenario there, but I'm sure Groupon gets a cut in some form or another. So I once called up a company for a lawn aeration and asked for them to price match their groupon and I'd go straight through them. They did it.

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8 points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

We don’t use Groupon because they start negotiating at a 50% revenue share and won’t go lower than 40%. So I’d bet many companies that use them will gladly match the price for you. They’re coming out way ahead vs. the Groupon sale.

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It is basically a contractual thing. 1-800 will set prices so low that they typically don’t even cover the wholesale cost of the flowers and paying the designer. Their reasoning behind screwing us like that is they say since they’re recognized nationally, they’re doing us a favor by sending us business. And, yeah, it’s true that we get a lot of business from them, but we’re constantly losing money on their orders. (That’s why the arrangements ordered through them look like shit because we will use older or cheaper flowers to try to cover that cost) So when you go to a real florist, they’re charging a price that covers the cost of the flowers and actually pays us designers! 1-800 is what ends up putting a lot of us out of business.

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And sometimes, it doesn't even seem like they try to match! Hubby ordered me a bouquet of pink flowers for my birthday, and the arrangement was totally different - blue and yellows, lots of greenery instead of mostly flowers. He was very upset, and has vowed never to use a national flower service again.

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That’s because 1-800 and teleflora have “substitute” agreements with florists. We can put a flower of equal value in (whether or not it’s even close looking) and no one has to tell the customer. It’s really a terrible way to do business. But we try to do our best. Always use real florists!

level 4

The whole florist system is pretty shady. My dad went over the history of teleflora and ftd and it’s such a shame what happened to a once helpful organization...

Small business is best business!

level 5

This isn't available to everyone, but I've used my local farmer-florist from this collective. It varies, but my local one delivers. I bought my daughter a beautiful bouquet last year and it wasn't expensive.

The flower farms, florists and farmer-florists listed here are all part of the global seasonal flower movement. This special Collective is committed to growing, buying and promoting local flowers.

https://www.floretflowers.com/directory/

level 6

This is awesome! I will definitely share the link with my dad.

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I've heard the way to do it is to call the local florist, and then instead of picking a specific bouquet from a website, just tell them what colors and flowers you like, and they'll get you the best looking thing they can do with those preferences at whatever price.

level 4

That is 100% the way to get something that looks good.

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Or they don’t even try to make them look nice. I’m guessing it’s because they know a cut of the price is being kept by the online national service, they just say fuck it. For example ordered vs reality on a $100 bouquet: https://imgur.com/a/m3rXX63/

level 4

That is preposterous. I hope you took that one up with customer service (and hopefully they reimbursed you, or gave you a new bouquet).

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42 points · 3 months ago

the local florist filling the order may not have the exact flowers in the arrangement picture you see online

that still beats not having a website at all, which is why most people use national online services to begin with.

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A lot of local florists will have website that show the licensed options from teleflora or ftd, so most of the time it’s all coming from the same place. My dad’s website has those and then also just a general option so you can customize...

Although I agree, many small florists are stuck in pre-internet days and make it difficult to place online orders.

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5 points · 3 months ago

Agree 100%.

Source: am son to florists. Both my parents were florists for over 25 years. I Remember having to help out during the busy times - whether that be sweeping floors or driving flower deliveries.

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1.3k points · 3 months ago

LPT: relax if you're British, we've just had Mother's Day.

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543 points · 3 months ago

If you're British, and your reaction was, "Oh no, mother's day is this Sunday," ... Its already too late...

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ah fuck

level 4

i can't believe you've done this

level 5

Can't read that without the accent

level 6

It's forbidden to read it without the accent.

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I have gone and dun goofed

level 4

Just move to America! Send flowers this Sunday. There's your excuse.

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I think you saying 'just had mother's day' rather than 'had mother's Day over a month ago' made me panic more than anything

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In Spain, they just had it this past Sunday. God knows why we don't just all match up days.

level 4

It's a conspiracy by mothers everywhere to keep us on our toes.

level 5

Can confirm have mother and she feeds on that feeling of sweet sweet panic and guilt.

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49 points · 3 months ago

Every fucking year this gets me.

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You guys got me good last year when I was in London for Mother’s Day, freaked out that I’d forgotten and made an international call to my mom saying how much I loved her. She just laughed and told me the UK has a different date for Mother’s Day

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My wife is American (edit: living in Britain) and every year has to buy Mother's Day card weeks in advance and keep it safe until American Mother's Day. Thankfully photo printing websites also do cards so it isn't as hard to find a card anymore.

level 2

Christ, thought I'd been having a few month long dream for a sec there

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the better question is why we have to do this, the whole different days thing and all

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Thanks, I was shitting it over here.

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535 points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

Yes! Florist here. If you don't order locally, you will get much less flowers for your money and it will probably not look too much like the picture you see. You'll be helping out a middle man and hurting a local business. You'd be amazed at the cut they take.

Talk directly to the person who will be making your flowers! We'll get a better sense of what you want and you'll get a more unique design with nicer flowers.

Edit: Our shop has quit all wire services, but here's an example from before. We received an order from the wire service (FTD) for $40. Roses, tulips, accent flowers, and greens. We send out the order. Customer calls us (after getting our number from an FTD rep who was tired of dealing with them. The customer has no idea what shop their order is sent to) and he's furious, saying he spent $75. We show him the order form we received, tell him to work it out with the wire service bc we don't have his money. He cancelled the order with them, which we get a fee for, but he started calling us directly and is a good customer now.

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This is exactly right. Teleflora and FTD charge a florist up to 27% for wire orders. Another tip: FTD owns ProFlowers and those come zip tied in a box. 800-Flowers does the same thing for almost all their orders as well.

Another reason the flowers don’t look the same is that FTD and Teleflora “front” all the images so you’re not seeing the arrangement all the way around. You’re seeing every flower in the arrangement pushed to the front.

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Came here to talk about fronting. This is a shitty practice by the major services.

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Unrelated question for a florist: What's the best way to approach a shop about getting flowers that aren't the standard hackneyed roses and carnations? I'm on a mission to send flowers to my wife at work, so that I don't have to suffer their smell at home, but want things like Freesias and Chrysanthemums. The 5 local shops that I've visited have treated me like a drunk college guy in a craft store, taken down my information, and told me that they'll call me. I haven't gotten any calls and noone seems to remember my conversation when I follow up in a week.

All that I really want is to point to some flowers, have money taken out of my account, then get a love text with a photo from my wife of some flowers on her desk. I would love to just click "add to cart" and be done with it, but as a local business owner I'm trying to help out these other local morons.

Am I committing some sort of floral social faux pas when I ask for something that isn't the Ford F150/Honda Civic of the flower world? Please help me make my wife smile and her co-workers jealous. What am I doing wrong?

level 3

Listen, you know how much you want to spend, you know what the favorite flower is of the person you’re giving them to. Call the florist and say “I want to spend $100 (or whatever), including tax and delivery. No carnations, no roses.”

It will never come out bad.

Source: I do this often, and I always get the “eeeeee I LOVE them!!” text

level 4

This was literally my favorite style of orders to take when I was a florist, and thus always the more beautiful arrangements.

level 3

I just found a local florist's website that had a "custom arrangement" option. I picked the occasion and how much I wanted to spend. Easy peasy. I wish I could find more florists like that because I too, have no clue what to get.

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Honestly, that should have been all you needed to do, though I'd have highly recommended going in ~two weeks in advance just so you don't run the risk of them already ordering their bulk shipment of flowers (or so they have time to add them onto their order or get them from elsewhere).

How much were you offering to spend for the arrangement? Did they estimate how much it'd be, and did they ask you for any amount up-front? Putting money down on the order after sorting out the details usually secures the "this guy is serious and is a paying customer, so I better keep on top of his order" mentality. We used to have a lot of window shoppers looking for the cheapest price, and some would get angry with us later on because they thought they'd 'placed an order' when, in reality, they only talked details with us - no up-front or down payment, and no order history to let us believe they'd even come to pick up and pay for the arrangement.

Another thing. Florists or those working at the shop, during non-busy seasons, will remember phone calls and orders from a week or two weeks ago. During the busy season? Much, much less likely, especially if you've never been there before. The sheer volume of orders florists get on Valentine's and Mother's Day is absolutely ridiculous and it's where most shops make about 80% of their money for the year. They are not likely to remember a customer's order unless they're either a friend or a regular, especially if they're sleep-deprived (common) or just phoning it in for the paycheck.

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I know you got several replies already, but I’ll add that maybe going to a specific person may help. Ghosting isn’t really a thing in the flower business so I’d hope that maybe you just got someone that didn’t know how to help and failed to follow through (if it’s every shop - sheesh!! You need some new blood) That way you have your contact for when you want to order. So a month before Valentines you can call, request “PallisadeRunner’s buddy” and give your parameters to them personally. Feel free to give specifics like the day of delivery because that provides an anchor to your order. For us that would mean you get your order documented and pops up as a physical reminder that we need those freesias for the 12th.

I wish you the best of luck! It would be fun to have more thoughtful special orders like this. We also get a chance to play around when we have unusual orders

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Just say no roses and no carnations. My local florists all have bins with different flowers. You can just say exactly which ones you want. Cant imagine others wouldn't be the same.

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43 points · 3 months ago

So what can I do if I want to use a local fooris who is it of my state? I tried to send flowers to my mother and the bank wouldn't let the order go through.

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Call your bank and approve the transaction and run it again.

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local fooris

is it of my state

Are you roleplaying your name?

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32 points · 3 months ago

Get a new bank? I order flowers for my mother 'remotely' every year without issue. Most times online without even talking to the florist. I also have Bank of America, they don't mind giving my money to just about anyone...

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The problem I ALWAYS run into is that if I order a dozen roses through an online agent I get a better price than I get if I call that same florist directly. I've never seen a difference in the quality of flowers or delivery times. Are you saying the local company is discounting flowers to the company that's screwing them and then turning around and screwing the people who are trying to order direct? That's not a good business model.

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If I can spend $15 for a $40 voucher at a national/online florist, then even if they take a 30% cut/have a 30% mark-up I'm ahead.

To clarify, this is/was an actual deal.

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339 points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

Yea, but they don't have an online platform where I can avoid any social interaction to purchase flowers.

Edit: apparently many local flowershops have their own website now. Google it before ordering!

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THIS was a big issue for me honestly. I'm terrified of calling places like that because I have no idea what I'm talking about, but then I realized that's literally all they do, is deal with people who know nothing about flowers and flower arrangements asking for their recommendation. I got over it and called my mom's local florist and it turns out they're on a first name basis with her because she orders so many damn flowers there so they knew exactly what to make for her. 10/10 would call local florist again.

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Succesful small businesses usually excel at customer service. Its that touch that lets them keep customers and compete with the big places. Never be afraid to call.

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You might be surprised. Most local florists (myself included) have websites that are just as easy to order from as the “big guys” but with almost no fees and only sales tax (if your area has that).

You’ll get way more for your money ordering local.

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Just checked and you're right! Thanks for the info!

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I wish this was the case, but literally all the flower shops in my area have websites with teleflora arrangements exclusively.

level 4

That sounds like a giant missed opportunity for some of those places.

It might also be that they don’t have their “own” website. When we used teleflora and FTD they would create a website for you which wasn’t really anything other than an extension of FTD or Teleflora. We have a custom made website with our own original arrangements.

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Original Poster66 points · 3 months ago

Your mom is worth it.

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My mom is why I avoid social interactions

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this is the real reason not to use a local florist.

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11 points · 3 months ago

Walk in there for once. Florists are literally the only type of shop where I feel comfortable with social interaction. Just walk in, say 'bouquet for €30' (or whatever amount you feel comfortable spending). They might ask who it is for and if you want any specific flowers. Of course you don't want specific flowers, you don't know shit about flowers. Then you wait while the florist has fun doing their job. These people enjoy putting together beautiful stuff and you don't need to do anything but pay afterwards.

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Thank you fo this. I didn’t even realize Mother’s Day was this Sunday.

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23 points · 3 months ago

(This Sunday)

The real LPT

level 1

And pay with credit card in case there is a fuck up.

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92 points · 3 months ago

This is a legit LPT that applies to all purchases. When you use a debit card, you're using your own money and the bank with drag its feet if there is an issue. When you use a credit card, you are using their money and they will burn a business down to get their money back if there are issues.

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The real pro tip is that it's almost mothers day

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24 points · 3 months ago

Also Aldis has some really nice multi-media Mothers day cards for $1.

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LPT additional: This is for the USA, everyone else, stand down, and stop panicing.

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This is for the USA

And Canada.

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25 points · 3 months ago

AKA America's hat.

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7 points · 3 months ago

Australia too!

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Yeah I was like "there's national flower services?"

level 1

If you are a member of USAA, they have a discount flower service that's usually 25% off

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This is what I thought, but then I tried to get a comparable arrangement from a local florist, and I couldn't find one. Everything was much more expensive, which didn't make sense.

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This has been my experience, and I'm wondering if everyone else here actually orders flowers regularly.

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I order flowers very often. I’ve never had this experience. I call the florist and tell them my price point. They deliver it and it looks amazing.

Every time that I’ve used a national website they have been underwhelming

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Seriously, I feel like anyone who upvoted this has never bought flowers or compares prices. Anytime I’ve got flowers delivered from a local place it’s been minimum of $50, where I keep seeing deals from big online deals (like 1-800 flowers) that are mind blowingly cheap.

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Have you actually tried to act on those "mind blowingly cheap" prices that are advertised? You usually get slapped with huge delivery fees at checkout.

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52 points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

Yeah this LPT isn’t very good.

I get great deals on 1800 Flowers and I can have sent out with less than 24 hours notice (what I did for Valentine’s Day this year). I don’t have to call 5+ places to find someone available for deliver - the flower service does it for me. I never had to speak to anyone on the phone and they are immensely cheaper than going to the florist. I’ve been spending a bunch of time visiting florists for my wedding so I’m seeing what they charge per piece.

I feel like the 1800 services are more convenient and they are giving business to the local florists. It’s a win-win.

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The problem with 1-800 Flowers is they are sort of like Walmart. Their customer service is terrible if you ever have to call. I think they use call centers in India and the agents know nothing about flowers, only dealing with orders.

They have $30 arrangements on their site, which is why people use them. Unfortunately the floral shop doesn't make very much money on a $30 arrangement. They get maybe $20 from 1-800 and with the delivery, it ends up being like $15.

My wife's shop doesn't deliver anything under $50 more than a few miles away because it's just not worth it.

You're much better off calling up your local floral shop and telling them your price range and what kind of flowers you'd like. You'll get a much better arrangement for the money.

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My wife's shop doesn't deliver anything under $50 more than a few miles away because it's just not worth it.

So if I can get an arrangement delivered to my girlfriend for $30 from 1800 flowers, you understand why I would do that right?

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Why is it okay for your wife not to deliver pieces less than $50 bc it’s not worth it for her time but not okay for customers to order from a place that does offer deliveries for less bc they find it worth their time/money?

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Their customer service is terrible if you ever have to call.

Oddly enough I have experience calling their customer service and it was a wonderful experience. It's rare that you'd have to call customer service for a flower company so I thought it was interesting that I had before. Basically, I mistakenly ordered one of the arrangements that come "in a box" instead of local florist delivery (which was my bad for not reading) and asked to cancel the order to place another one. The order had already shipped but they refunded my money anyway no questions asked and told me to have a nice day. Sending flowers in a box is weird, but getting $80 worth of flowers for free was fine by me.

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This. Like 3 or 4 times more expensive.

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Agreed, I tried this in Manhattan and everything was more expensive than ProFlowers and 1-800

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The trick is to call and just give them your budget and let them do what they want. You get more this way. I have no idea why.

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I think it's because, if for instance you tell them you want $30 of flowers but you don't really care what kind(s) of flowers, they can put something together for you easily from whatever in-season flowers they have on hand. If most people want, say, pink roses for Mother's Day, florists have to make sure they keep enough in stock to meet demand. When you're not picky, they can afford to give you a fuller arrangement for your money because they'll almost certainly use flowers they have more than enough of that would probably go to waste otherwise. It's more cost efficient for the florist that way, more cost efficient for you, and you're more likely to be impressed and become a repeat customer :)

This is a pretty good way to order flowers unless the intended recipient is suuuuper particular. My mom really dislikes carnations and blue or orange flowers of any kind, but while she would take pink roses intravenously if she could, she enjoys being surprised. She's loved it when I've sent her bouquets of tulips, bouquets of peonies, bouquets of ranunculus, and I'm sure a bunch of others I can't think of off the top of my head. So if you know someone like me who enjoys softer colors and hates lilies, you could tell the florist "soft colors, no lilies please." Even so, my husband has a knack for coming home with bouquets of lilies or rainbow-dyed carnations for me because the label on the lilies says "cheerful" or the rainbow reminds him of me, and it truly is the thought that counts.

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Olympic, you are absolutely correct. As a former florist, I can also add that many folks come in and want to micromanage an arrangement by telling a very limiting list of flowers to include. What they don't realize is that by doing that, they are limiting the florist's ability to be creative. A florist spends their career not only learning how to build an arrangement, but also what colors look well together and what flowers do better in different containers. (Some flowers don't last as long in foam which could be required by an arrangement in a basket but would do wonderfully in a vase with water, for example.)

The hands down best way to order flowers is to give a budget and mention any flowers or colors that are not desired. Give the florist the freedom to create their art.

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Here's my flower LPT: go to the local flower shop and tell them your budget, let's say it's $20 then tell the florist to build whatever bouquet they like. They're going to pick the healthiest flowers and put together a really nice bouquet that IMHO is way nicer than the prebuilt junk in the fridges. Also, if you tell them you want a specific flower and those just aren't that healthy they don't really have a choice but to give you what they have. Give them as much flexibility as you can and they'll reward you.

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33 points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

LPT: buy a potted plant that blooms around Mother’s Day in your climate. Save tons of co2 etc by stopping to transport dead plants regularly.

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I bought my mom an orchid for under 10 dollars several years ago. Knowing that they're finicky, I expected it would die but it was pretty and exotic and would likely last longer than a cut bouquet. It's still going strong, blooms for a super long time and my mom hasn't even bothered with the special "water it with ice cubes" instructions. Seriously considering getting her another this year.

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Your tone seems very pointed right now.10 points · 3 months ago

Orchids are surprisingly hard to kill. It took me about 6 months to kill mine and I have a notorious brown thumb.

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For this idea, you are my hero. My mom is a huge plant person and some asshole kid without insurance plowed into her meticulously landscaped yard. I’ll get potted plants to help restore it

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My mom has a fantastic garden and strongly prefers getting to pick out a new plant for it! I always offer first but she always chooses something that can grow and get more pretty than something that lasts a week.

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6 points · 3 months ago

Make sure you read the refund policy. I ordered 3 gerbera daisies one time for the gf and she received 3 mums. Asked for a refund and they only gave me 10%

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ITT: people affiliated with flower shops telling you why you shouldn't prefer the convenience of 1-800-Flowers.

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Another life pro tip is reminding me that Mother’s Day is on Sunday

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16 points · 3 months ago

Well, in all fairness this is how the majority of business, large and small, operate.

Say you call a contractor for some home renovations. He says, okay, all this work will cost $20,000. You get a couple other opinions and his $20k is the lowest so you go with him. That contractor is still sub contracting work out to electricians, plumbers, tile setters, etc, marking up all their services by 20%, and selling it to you for the quoted price. The labourers that those contractors are paying $15 an hour? He's selling to you for $40 Or $50.

Granted a flower service is a little less of a deal, but yeah. This LPT can apply to a lot of different businesses!

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I mean, a contractor is a bad example, because his cut is his pay for coordinating everything and knowing what needs to be done when, and who to call.

A good contractor is absolutely worth his price.

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4 points · 3 months ago

Yeah but in this case FTD or whomever really isn't adding much value. Sure, they're 'finding' a local shop for you when you put in the delivery address, but otherwise they're not doing anything you couldn't do just by contacting the local florist.

The construction example is different because the contractor is responsible for managing and coordinating the work of the subs, which isn't something you as the homeowner want to do.

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I would love to, but my local florists seem allergic to the Internet.

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I wish this were true where I live, but the local florists that fill the proflowers orders charge way more. I can order the "100 blooms plus free vase" for $20 plus like $6-8 for delivery, or I could pay $50 for the same flowers and no delivery. Hmmmm

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Yeah, I've tried checking local florists' websites before and never noticed that they were any cheaper, and they often had higher delivery charges (which they only disclosed at the very end).

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or just go to Kroger

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I agree with this generally, although it went terribly for me not too long ago. I was attending my wife’s grandmother’s funeral and sent flowers on behalf of my family. Everyone else had ordered from FTD, but I ordered from the only shop in the small town where the funeral was. There’s were typical beautiful and big arrangements, and mine look like a middle school art project that had gone terribly wrong. It also didn’t have any customer service give-a-crap to make it right. So, if options are very limited, the safe bet is the big national group.

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Honestly I buy flowers from the grocery store. They look good, I'm able to build my own big ass bouquet for $20 and I fill it with the flowers and colors I know my mom likes.

I don't get paying $50 for a local florist when I could take that extra $30 and get her something she wants.

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Lol this is so true.

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I order from the online chains for convenience. I'm not trying to make phone calls to put this together.

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This. The one that advertises incessantly on the radio featuring arrangements for $19.95? By the time you add shipping / handling / delivery / whatnot fees its close to $75.

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That has never happened to me. Sure, it’s probably an extra $15-20, but still cheaper than when I go local.

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Yea and they send the sucky flowers

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My mom's local florist knew her by name when I called to get an arrangement for her. I just thought it was funny and endearing. My mom really likes flowers.

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Every, single, year, posts like this put the fear into me.

I frantically bing when is mothers day, and then I remember it was in March and what I got maw.

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Ordered from 1800-flowers a few years ago.

Got an empty vase.

Will not order from 1800-flowers ever again.

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OP must be a local florist.

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Or just go to a supermarket like Kroger and save money on flowers. It's all the same.

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Truth! Am daughter of florist.

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12 points · 3 months ago

Even better LPT.. Don't pay crazy florist prices at all, visit Costco where the flowers are amazing and cheap, buy a couple bundles of different kinds or lots more if lots of women in your life.. And make bouquets yourself.. Will take about the same time and you will save lots of dough.

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This lpt is more geared towards sending flowers to a loved one that is far away that you cannot hand deliver flowers to.

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coupons my friend.. local places are usually a fortune..

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