I know a lot of the shit she ended up in she put her own ass in it. But there's also some shit she didn't ask for. I mean a mere, harmless meeting with a senetor turned her life upside down. She had no idea that Fitz would become obsessed with her and it would lead to all types of horrors. They all turned to her for everything.
Fitz thinks he can't function without her.
Huck seems to believe that he needs Liv to keep him sane even though to me he still seemed unpredictably psychotic with or without having Liv.
Quinn and Abby were needy and expected perfection from her all the time.
Cy was always the devil on her shoulder.
Mellie used to tell her "My husband can't do shit without you. He's drinking himself to death and the country is literally at risk. I don't give a god damn if you're mad at him right now. Get OVER it and get back UNDER him!!!" Mellie needed her just as much as Fitz.
Jake called her out on her shit often and I think she hated looking like dumbass in front of him time and time again. I couldn't imagine having to go back to a guy with my head down and my tail between my legs over and over.
In scandal land, she is the most important person in the world. Or was when Fitz was still im office. It sounds awesome but it's also terrifying. It also got to her head and she started feeling herself a little too much.
The only one that didn't need her and knew it was David. Which is why I like that the only person she opened up to about being taken was in fact David.
Then there was the overwhelming task of making sure no one ever found out about the many crimes her and all of her friends kept committing.
Her parents. Enough said.
Prefacing this first, I have just started watching Scandal for the first time ever.
So it might be an unpopular opinion but although Olivia was in this weird love triangle with Fitz and Jake, Fitz being the love of her life, I was rather heartbroken that she left Jake standing out in the cold.
I felt the turmoil Fitz and Olivia were faced with during the initial seasons however although for me it was a rocky start in this “should I trust Jake?”/“should I not trust Jake” teeter-totter, I fell in love with Jake for Olivia.
I don’t think there’s going to be any winners in this messy thing we call life. Sorry, I just wanted to rant. #teamJake anyone?
This is a bit outside the normal conversation of this sub, but as an avid soundtrack lover I had a question:
On the official soundtrack song "Cyrus Breaks Down", its lead by a smooth electric piano instrument.
This sound is present in a lot of the score, but I was wondering if anyone knew what exactly it was? I would think an electric piano, but it has such a smooth bell tone I might be wrong.
What are things that you’ve realized after re watching a season, an episode, or the entire series?
Mine was I didn’t realize how unhealthy Olivia’s eating habits were. I was re watching and caught Jake make a joke about it and Leo Bergen did as well. Relying on wine and popcorn with occasional Gettyburgers is not healthy.
Fitz’s severe anger problems were more evident as well. How people had to pretty much walk on eggshells around him but hey, I guess that’s karma for putting a petulant child in a role he had absolutely no business being in. 🤷🏿♀️
Okay, so y’all know how we’re supposed to believe that Olivia is really really really great at her job? So much so that she’s introduced as being untouchable, initially?
There were times when , ethics aside, she was very good at her job which was to fix people’s problems.
However, as I’m re watching Scandal on Netflix, she ran a failed campaign for Fitz the first time which led to her reluctantly helping to rig the election in Fitz’s favor. Secondly, the second time she ran his campaign that was largely a clean campaign, Fitz technically would’ve lost if it wasn’t for her father murdering Fitz’s son.
We know how she’s infallible just like everyone else, but I wish we didn’t have the impression that she’s superhuman when it comes to her job when she’s had many failures.
Ref: 4:4 Like Father, Like Daughter
Okay. OKAY. I didn't like Mellie before this episode; I find her incredibly vindictive, petty, and petulant. I find that she hides behind that southern belle sweetness far too often, and looks down from an incredibly high perch on her subjects with something similar to arrogance. And I could forgive that; she's a political trophy wife, and she made that bed for herself. But what I couldn't forgive, was when she found out that Karen had made a sex tape and was in a lot of trouble, instead of showing support/concern/compassion for the EXTREME invasion of privacy her daughter was facing, she made the most cutting remark to Fitz, about how like father she was. The incredible selfishness of that remark was like the last of the shroud getting pulled away so you could really see the real Mellie. The incredibly mean Mellie. And irregardless of how Fitz has been to her, or what she's been through, it was that lack of compassion for her own child that really did me in.
I know this may be an unpopular opinion, but I saw something in Fitz I related to very heavily.
All he is, is a man who wants to measure up to something he is expected to accomplish. His dad was a popular and successful politician, his wife is a strong leader, his company and at times right hand man, Cyrus is a literal power hungry monster who will destroy anything to clear the way for Fitz. Yet he finds himself not mentally engaged, he’s not cut out for it, but he’s trying so hard. Yes he’s a baby, yes he is a paper president- but he shows flashes of brilliance, something that NO ONE ELSE including Olivia has. That firecracker enigma that only a President can have.
To add to this, his life gets thrown a curve ball and he falls in love with someone who he was DESTINED for. I don’t know BUT, to me- his tragic flaw is that he’s almost too good. In all of this murdering, cheating, lying, I saw him has the single guy who was just standing there trying to catch up while being used as a chess piece. At the end of the day, he did his best, he fell in love, and he made mistakes- as we all do at some point in our lives.
Powerful men and women aren’t perfect but they get their power for a reason, because it was bestowed upon them by the fire that burns so passionately within that everyone around them couldn’t help but be attracted like moths to a flame.
What were some of the most God-awful plots you’ve seen on Scandal?
For me, season 6’s ‘whodunnit?’ plot line. What really really irked me was how people suddenly forgot how bad Cyrus was. Most of the main characters were in disbelief when Olivia mentioned that Cyrus allegedly killed Vargas and it didn’t make sense for them to be that obtuse. This is the same Cyrus who almost killed James, HIS OWN HUSBAND, all because he had to testify in the Defiance case, this is the same Cyrus who worked with murderers and B613 on numerous occasions. He’s not above murdering someone.
The ‘takedown’ of B613.
It was nice to see the team work together to eradicate B613 until Rowan found out and effectively made it impossible. I feel that the B613 plot line ran way too long. It should’ve been at least a season.
Olivia and Jake’s sibling-esque relationship during either season 5 or 6. That whole plot creeped me tf out lol.
As I'm rewatching Scandal (currently on season 5), I don't know how I stomached Fitz.
He was an entitled rich kid who was very emotionally immature. I did enjoy seeing a softer side of him while he was with Olivia but she was his only saving grace. She made him more tolerable.
An example would be when he went and shot Quinn twice and then put her in the car and lit it on fire. Olivia's dad had his gun but it's not like he would shoot Olivia if she stood up and walked to the other room to free her friend. Instead she starts going at it with him over who is bluffing and he goes and shoots twice. On other occasions through the seasons of the show we see Olivia take her dad down and he has a chance to kill her but he never does.
She always seems to let him get away with so many things. He killed so many people yet Olivia seems to give him a slip under the rug whenever she needs something in return from him. Like how she took him down for B613 but in season 6 when Mellie becomes president she uses him to help stop the attacker of the drones from taking over Mellie and the white house.
For example, he is a museum curator. As command, he is America’s curator, the keeper. He works with bones, specifically, dinosaur bones. He also manages other’s skeletons and dark/hidden secrets. He prepares the bones and makes them clear for display. Just as he unveils other’s secrets for potential display if they don’t cooperate. When he is finished preparing the dinosaur bones, they are put together and on exhibit. When he does not have cooperation, others are put on exhibit (either through revealed secrets or through actions against them).