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Aside from "character recognition" what does WWE do better than NJPW?

We frequently talk about how well NJPW does long term booking and its amazing matches that manage to tell a story. However are there any elements that WWE does better?

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クソのマーク33 points · 1 month ago

WWE does a better job of convincing people pointing at logos is sufficient build for a feud.

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WWE Network > NJPW World

WWE makes it really simple for people to navigate their app and website. If I want something, I can find it easily.

NJPW World on the other hand can get annoying as hell. Its all Google translate and you could get stuck searching page after page for a particular match. They need to fix it ASAP.

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Video packages are a lot better on WWE.

Everything about WWE Network, from the production values to the fact there's a Roku app for it.

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i am champion. you die.-4 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

I don't think WWE is even close to touching New Japan when it comes to video packages. There's something authentic about NJPW's VTRs whereas I feel like I'm watching one of those dramatized haunted house shows whenever I see a WWE video package. If there's anything people have over hyped in the past couple of years when it comes to WWE, it's their video packages. Almost everyone else does them better, even Impact.

Edit: Honestly, I get that people want to find any little thing for WWE to be better at than NJPW, but there's no way WWE's video packages are just in a class all of their own. Not only do they not do them better than NJPW, they don't do them better than the UFC either. The LAX/OGz video packages alone blow WWE's video packages out of the water.

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BLUE JUSTICE!15 points · 1 month ago

Female wrestling, by default. That's about it.

Edit: Would have said tag division as well, but they're both pretty shitty right now imo.

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well, NJPW doesn't have a women division, so you can't really say that WWE is doing it better

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I would say the opposite because not having a women’s division in 2018 is madness with the amount of talented women wrestlers there are

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クソのマーク5 points · 1 month ago

NJPW not having women is as mad as a women’s promotion not having men.

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Hey, Miho Abe and Tokyo Latina could have a helluva match!

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-6 points · 1 month ago(2 children)
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You said it, man.

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-6 points · 1 month ago(0 children)
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As a big NJPW fan I'd say WWE has handled their tag division much better than NJPW has handled theirs.

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Raainmaakaeeh3 points · 1 month ago

NJPW is pretty much only concentrating on the heavyweight singles division unfortunately, but what a division it is!

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#FDM7 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

At their best, WWE builds feuds better with in-ring confrontations and brawls. Heel turns. Vignettes (which unfortunately they don't do anymore). Some of the best promo guys in the world have been from WWE. To say WWE does nothing better is stupid.

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Wwe is better at patting them selves on the back and making fans hate someone who they want to get over

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Sexellence of sexecution. 7 points · 1 month ago

Theatrical entrances. I think that's somethung regular WWE fans take for granted that somebody like me, who watches only big PPVs, notices immediately. Performers know where the camera is and the good ones know how to milk every second they get.

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クソのマーク5 points · 1 month ago

This is a downside to me. It makes everything feel fake and stupid. I hate when New Japan tries to do it.

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That tends to be the BC crew though.

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GOAT3 points · 1 month ago

PS4 app

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#FreeBushi5 points · 1 month ago

Production value

Accessibility

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absolutely nothing

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1 point · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

I think they do most things better. Allowing guys to have long matches whenever they want is something NJPW definitely does better, but almost everything else favors WWE. Even long term booking comparison is a silly comparison considering the amount of events each company runs.

The character stuff is the biggest thing. Even as a regular SC reader and wrestling fan, I don’t see any point to most of he NJPW roster. Maybe guys on the mid or low end of wwe aren’t doing the most creative things, but the majority of NJPW’s roster are just tossed into these multi man matches with no stakes other than meaningless faction warfare.

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Also creating special moments that we recall for years to come.

We get emotionally invested in these characters and they're able to create great and lasting memories for us

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AdAm CoLe BaBaAyY1 point · 1 month ago

making money

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WWE's tape library is amazing and multiples of times better than NJPW World, NJPW can't even get all of their own content online whereas WWE has decades of their own and multiple companies content.

WWE's production values for special entrances and big shows, especially Wrestlemania are significantly better.

In a general sense WWE does actually deliver more quality wrestling than NJPW does. WWE has hours of weekly TV and has lots of single and regular tag matches every week where the wrestlers are actually trying to deliver good matches. NJPW takes a few weeks off at a time and most of their small shows and build-up shows are multi-man tags where the wrestlers are taking it easy to preserve themselves. It's only during tournament season or the main events of PPV-type shows where NJPW in-ring and long-term storytelling really outshine WWE (and even then, NXT has been pretty great lately and maybe a level just under NJPW)

BTW I'm a monthly NJPW subscriber and only bother buying the network for Mania.

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Educate a moron. What is meant by character recognition?

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Original Poster3 points · 1 month ago

People cite watching wwe cause of their knowlede of the wrestlers. It's jarring to go to another fed and having to learn the whole card

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4 points · 1 month ago

Gotcha, thanks for that. Can't disagree with it.

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The Man With A Plan1 point · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

Entrances and hype videos and a better streaming service in terms of accessibility and navigation. That's really it.

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Probably marketing

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  1. Network > NJPW World

  2. Television production

  3. Large Scale live Events

  4. Video Library

  5. Promotions and Marketing

  6. Licensing and Merchandising

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Tranquilo1 point · 1 month ago

Make money

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Tag Team divison,case closed

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1 point · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

Edit: I gave it some thought.

NJPW indeed doesn't do traditional tag teams because all but very few are in stables/factions. GBH and Tencozy are the only two-man groups I know of in recent time. That's just how they operate with their overarching stories.

So you're right because priorities are different. Of course you have people thinking "they've had two weeks together, someone needs to go solo" so... [rolls eyes]

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That was true until this year. Nothing main roster WWE has done with their tag teams has touched Bucks vs LIJ this year. Or the Golden Lovers vs Bucks, LIJ vs KES etc...The B team? The horrible Wyatt/Hardy team? The stale SmackDown teams and the crazy dudes with mallets? Nope. A major strength for WWE last year is a huge weakness this year.

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Okada's Golden Trousers 0 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

Womens division by default, tag division and a better network.

Production values are better in wwe imo. They really nail those hype packages before matches

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-3 points · 1 month ago

I think a lot of it has to do with it's size and history, but it's better at creating that larger than life feel.

Rock/Hogan,

Cena Rumble return

Stone Cold returns to save team WWF

it's something very unique to WWE, it's just great at creating these surreal moments that no other promotion can do.

It's kinda hard to quantify as NJPW has surreal moments too, but not in the same manner or on the same scale as WWE.

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WWE hasn’t had that since wm xxx

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That's because you don't know the historical context. If you were a lifelong puro fan that grew up with the legends it would be a bit different.

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Rock/Hogan is not just a WWE moment, it’s a wrestling moment in general.

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0 points · 1 month ago

I'm not really sure if my point is getting across, it's not that they don't have legends historical significance and lasting impressions, it's singular moments that create a lasting memory. NJPW has tons of legends, awesome matches, moments that tug at your heart strings in recent memory Shibata's return, passing of the torch through wrist control.

However what I'm trying to say isn't a solely star power thing, it's this grandiose we have a big house and an overblown roster, bet you didn't expect to see this coming. It happens and it's a huge pop. The best example of it is The Royal Rumble and such., and in recent memory Goldberg squashing Lesnar. It's not the idea of "oh these are two huge stars" it's just that they have the roster size and depth of the well to pull it off more frequently

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Containment. What I mean by that is you watch the weekly show in WWE, you get the story for the ppv. You don't need any supplementary media, where as NJPW doesn't have that luxury because they don't have a weekly show. So you need to rely on post match interviews and press conferences for much of the advancement, aside from the Road To shows pf course.

Not that WWE doesn't have all the fluff, they just do it during the weekly TV.

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i am champion. you die.1 point · 1 month ago

I think what you pointed out for NJPW is what makes watching their big events that much more satisfying, tbh. You get rewarded with these great matched filled with loads of story all because you ventured out to consume the supplementary media. It's not for everyone though so I see where you're coming from.

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Raainmaakaeeh1 point · 1 month ago

I agree with you but i feel like this is very much based on personal taste. Some might like having a weekly show building to PPV where you get all you need to know while others might prefer the more "realistic" way of having interviews and such. Hard to say which one is better.

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-1 points · 1 month ago

WWE has a better network... which is funny because it still has obnoxious issues when trying to find things but thats compared to NJPWs crippling issues. I can find what I want usually, but it never 'feels good'.

Hype packages would be a big one. I like New Japan's videos, but WWE is just -really- good at them.

Production is a tossup. Comparing big shows, I like New Japan better than WWE in look and presentation and everything, but WWE brings consistency to every arena. Sometimes that consistency feels almost like a disadvantage (Like the WWE set is both incredible and so incredibly over exposed that it's hard to care anymore) but they never have shows where people are just coming out from some random door.

I think if you just look at WWE's logistics and stuff it's CRAZY and incredible it all works so flawlessly. For all the complaints about WWE as a product, their business seems to be ran pretty fucking tight and that's an incredibly hard thing for anyone to compete with.

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Super Hentai Bomb!-1 points · 1 month ago

Production values and nostalgia.

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-14 points · 1 month ago(0 children)
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Well, they certainly don't do character recognition better. WWE is better at the outside the ring production stuff. Video packages, entrances etc... They are also far better at marketing. Those are the two things they really do better.

Oh, and women's wrestling, obvs

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