Episode 8: The Call of the Wild
Aired: August 28th, 2016
Episode Synopsis: Stone is thrust into the spotlight as a controversy involving the defense emerges.
Directed by: Steven Zaillian
Written by: Richard Price & Steven Zaillian
From episode 1, we’re given two characters that we see that are witnesses before and after the crime: Naz and the neighbor. We never get any reference to this neighbor outside of this first episode and a brief 3 second flashback scene in one of the later episodes when the trial is occurring. So therefore while watching the series I always thought they were doing this on purpose by making the audience forget about him, therefore potentially making the ending more a twist if he were to be revealed as a suspect or even a prime witness that may be the key to the trial. Why is it that no one questioned the neighbor directly after the first episode? Would he not be a prime witness to what happened? I know he was questioned by the police as to what happened directly after the incident, but he was nevertheless not brought about to the trial as a potential witness. Why is that?
I have many questions for very different things, I hope you guys can help clear them out:
Do we have any idea how the financial advisor actually got to kill her that night? How didn't he leave any trace?
And what were his motivs again? That part was a bit rushed and I am not a native speaker, so I just didn't get how Box finds out the truth. And why didn't he share his findings with the defence?
Who sent John Stone the tape of Chandra and Naz? I felt so bad for how things turned out for Chandra by the way...
What is the symbolism of Stone's rashes during the entire show? I just don't get it at all. He get cured, and then he gets them again, but much worse, when he has to speak to the jury. What does this getting better and then worse mean?
What does Stone adopting and having the cat mean? What symbolizes his relationship with the cat?
Why does Freddy kill the guy? Just because he was gay?
The rashes and the cat definetly mean something, and probably other stuff I've missed, but I may be stretching it here: does Freddy symbolize anything? Or he's just a guy in prison that helps out Naz becaus he thought he was special and innocent (a "unicorn")? It just seems that their relationship was so remarking that there must be something between lines.
What does the deer mean?
Why does Andrea's stepfather answer "no" when asked whether the victim in the picture was his stepdaughter?
Thank you in advance!
When Stone questioned the financial advisor in the casino, he said his semen was found at the crime scene. This is why the financial advisor should admit he was a boyfriend. If this is so, why wasn't he brought in for questioning by the police?! Are we supposed to believe Stone was just faking this piece of evidence? Based on her assurance, it sounds like it was for real. This seems like a major problem in the storytelling. Also, could someone please explain the financial advisor's motivation to killing Andrea? He somehow forced Andrea to withdraw $300,000 from her credit card account. What?
The scene where Stone threatens Don. From Episode 8.
I only recently learned about the pilot they shot with James Gandolfini as John Stone.
With Turturro in the role, it's a threat that could be referencing The Sopranos as well. But with Gandolfini in the role, it's an "on the nose" nod to The Sopranos!
Would have been such an "oh, that's cheeky" moment had he been able to play the role. Plus, all the Sopranos alumni Aida Turturro (Janice Soprano), Max Casella (Benny Fazio), Ray Abruzzo (Little Carmine), and Michael Badalucco (Jimmy Altieri).
Let me just say that I loved the show, great story, acting, and all that. But damn that has to be the best opening episode to any show I've watch. It's a double edged sword because while the episode was amazing, my brain was looking for the same level of thrill and anxiousness in the next 7 episodes that I had in Episode 1. There were some moments but I don't think anything compared from the moment that Naz found her dead to the end of the epi.
Screenwriters talk about a 'save the cat moment' as being a small act that a character performs which humanizes them and makes them sympathetic to the audience.
Kinda funny how John Stone's is literally saving a cat that he's allergic to.
Everyone has a pretty good/bad ending, John Stone goes back to defending the people he knows are guilty, Nazir is fucked up from jail, Chandra is in trouble etc. but Freddy? He finally met someone who is his intellectual equal. Someone is a human. And now he's gone. And he's still stuck there. Damn.
While I love the entire series as whole, it's up there with True Detective S1, the best episode for me was definitely Episode 1.
John Stone tangles with his mob clients. Corruption at every level of the system, police looking the other way, shady deals and intimidation of witnesses, etc etc
All with the typical slow-burning suspense and grit of the orig. After the slapstick of the Sopranos, baring the brutal reality of organized crime with nothing held back.
YESSSSSSSSSS. One of the most chilling character transformations I've watched. Congrats to Riz
Obviously the stories are not completely identical but some aspects are pretty similar.
Both are Pakistani-American Muslims.
Naz (TNO) was 22. Adnan was around 18.
Both have typical strict Pakistani parents.
Both have a reputation of being 'good kids' by people close to them. (With the exception of Naz violent behaviour during the aftermath of 9/11). Not sure if anything was proven to be off about Adnan's behaviour at times, haven't listened to the podcast in a few years.
Both have a history of using/distributing drugs.
A young girl was murdered in both stories.
Sexual relations between the girls killed and the accused.
Majority of the audience believes both are innocent (I do too).
Some key differences are that Naz had absolutely no idea who Andrea was. Whereas Hae and Adnan were a known couple. Hae broke up with Adnan, that's motive. Naz resists arrest and is caught with what's believed to be the murder weapon. Jay testified against Adnan.
Naz spent around 5 months in Rikers Island, turned criminal. Adnan convicted and has been in prison for 17 years now = well behaved, well spoken, etc. Obv that depends on the type of people who each encounters and the rep their prison has. Rikers is one of the worst in the world. I've done no research on the prison Adnan is in, so I can't speak much about that.
I'm a big fan of both, the podcast and the show. I'll be pretty pissed if someone tells me this has already been discussed lol.
Just watched this series for the second time. Brilliant. Love it. Need more. Would love to see the second series getting into Naz' life after prison. Not interested in most other characters but they'd need to fill time with bullshit scenes like John Stone's ugly ass feet.
Naz continues to be vewed as a killer by the public. He handles this by anger, gets the cops called on him because of his violent response. He holds a grudge against his former friends and harasses them. He assosiates himself with criminals because those are the only people who don't treat him differently.
Naz doubts his own innocence. Since he has been and continues to be accused by the world and family for this crime, he starts to slowly believe he did it. His already fucked mind gets worse as he turns into the monster he's painted as.
His heavy drug addiction gets worse as well as his mental issues. He visits Freddy regularly because he now views him as a father figure. Freddy doesn't judge him, only shows love and praise. He seeks help/shrink after being convinced by Freddy.
Family continues being harassed. Naz' brother drops out of school and begins to partake in criminal acts such as robbery, assault, etc. His parents continue to struggle to find careers/jobs to make ends meet. Naz feels guilty and tries to help by robbing strangers at gun point. His mother is convinced he's a killer, their relationship will never be the same.
Naz decided to go above and beyond to try to hunt down the real killer for peace of mind/closure. Given that (ex) Detective Box and Weiss aren't able to. Chandra join him in doing so since her legal career is over. They fall for each other and become a couple. Chandra joins Naz' drug habit.
640am, I'm barely awake and seeing double, not proof reading this as I still have no idea what I just wrote. Pretty sure a lot of it is uncreative. This has probably been discussed thousands of times but I'm new to this sub. This is very unlikely to happen but one can dream.
Curious to hear everyone else's thought on Naz' future after The Night Of.
With all the attention given the cat. I was sure that maybe allergies, or something was going to come of the cat! WTF!
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