I know the live episode thread got pretty crowded so I figured people might want another thread to share their thoughts on the episode as a whole.
After seeing success on other subreddits with dedicated Discord servers, we've decided to open one up for /r/TheVampireDiaries. I realize the show has ended however, there is still plenty that can be chatted about as we all rewatch in the years to come.
Here's the link: https://discord.gg/s8RxJbS
There's also a channel there for discussion of The Originals since I know it still has another season left.
I'm still fairly new at Discord so I'm actively recruiting folks to help moderate it. If you're interested, please send a PM to me (/u/living_vicariously) or you can modmail the subreddit with this link. Please include some info about yourself, how much of TVD/TO you've seen, and what experience you have with Discord.
Feel free to join us and chat!
I think I'm about to ruin The Vampire Diaries for those who love it. Has anybody noticed on the Sheriff's pin it is spelled wrong They spelled it sherief which is obviously completely wrong. So, I searched it up and found that the way they spelled it means this..
sherief A man of unbelievable sexual power and other unknown properties
So to all the fans out there is there any theories to this or was it an honest mistake on the behalf of the producers on the Vampire diaries? My opinion is an honest mistake because people quite often misspell sheriff all the time.
This question has made me curious for quite some time: just how did Damon survive in the Prison World? It’s a plot point later on that a reason Lily went insane was because there was no blood in her Prison World and so she had to take the blood of the Heretics and survive off of one or two drops a day. Meanwhile, Damon survives in his world just fine. But how did he get access to blood? Was he feeding from Bonnie? I feel like they could’ve made that a great plot point and a sense of character development: Bonnie is his blood bag.
I’ll admit that the show is one of my guilty pleasures. I like it and hate that it ended. Still there were things I disliked. Here they are: 1. Elena: Before I watched season one, I read the books. I felt like they would be the same way as the show, as I had done with Game of Thrones. How stupid I was! In the books, Elena isn’t the girl next door: she’s a queen bee, a jerk with a heart of gold, who falls in love with the new Italian kid at school who turns out to be a vampire. Through the fighting between the brothers, Elena undergoes character development and becomes a better person while helping them with their problems and strengthening their relationship.
In the show, to make Elena the stand in for any girl watching, they make her a boring, one dimensional girl next door. They don’t make it clear why her friends would drop everything to help her when she has a splinter, just that it’s what the plot demands. They also make her hypocritical, to the point where her personality could be: hypocritical, naggy, naive. And Nina’s acting doesn’t help either. She is better as Katherine. I felt like they could’ve just done what they did in the books. In the books, Katherine and Elena are sisters (long story) and look 90% correct. They could’ve cast another actress as Elena and then kept Nina as Katherine and just say they’re doppelgängers for this reason. Occasionally, she does get a good moment, like in the season 5 finale, or when she turns off her humanity, but it doesn’t make up for having to sit through everything else.
Another thing I hate about Elena is in Season 4 when she decided to kill off an Original, who is implied to have thousands of vampires on his line. Many of them could’ve just been innocent people. Think of Caroline, who was gonna die, so her doctor gave her vampire blood. But she still died and became a vampire. She and everybody else never stop to consider. I feel like to salvage it they could’ve done where Kol sires an entire town or something with a huge magnitude to screw with Jeremy and Jeremy would be forced to kill them all and add to the tattoo. Hed still be killing innocent people but it wouldn’t be as bad.
The SFX I get this show is made on a low budget but it really does. The vampires running seemed dull as did stuff like Rebekah doing a split in one episode where you clearly know it’s a stunt double. I felt like it could’ve been improved.
Hypocrisy It felt like every character on the show was a hypocrite to a major degree to the point where this should’ve been called The Hypocrite Diaries: Caroline gets mad that Elena is dating a Monster when she has sexual feelings for Klaus; Elena doesn’t want to be robbed of her humanity but she freely compels Jeremy whenever he had a bad dream; it’s Bonnie’s idea to give Caroline vampire blood and when she does become a vamp, Bonnie gets pissed and treats it like Caroline went out and became a heroine addict when she was the one to give her heroine in the first place; Stefan doesn’t like that whenever Damon goes he makes a mess, but as Season 3 reveals, Damon at least knows how to cover his tracks, as Stefan can feed so hard he blacks out and tries to put the bodies back together like a psycho. I know that in real life a lot of people are hypocrites, and usually we tend to do it without realizing or because they’re parents (think of the parent who tells a kid not to curse in front of people and has a sailor mouth with the excuse that they’re an adult). I felt like this could’ve been toned down. Or a character learns from their mistakes and decides against it.
Stefan being treated as a saint I didn’t like how the show always treated Stefan like a saint. I will admit, Damon is my ideal candidate for Elena’s hand but I did acknowledge that where they failed with characterization with Elena, they gave to Stefan, especially the episode where he became the vampire equivalent of an alcoholic. But the show did treat him a lot like he was a saint, even though we see he is just as bad as Damon: he acted like a psycho with those bodies in Season 3, because he tried to put them back together after he fed so hard; he was a Ripper who killed a small town that we know of. Season 4 could be our biggest contender. Sure, Elena might’ve been sired to Damon, but his quest to turn her human or to his side is ultimately what causes them to break up. He treats her, in her own words, like a broken toy or (in my own words) like an abused cat, whereas Damon at least tries to get her to adjust. Still, it overall comes off as creepy and stalker like in that regard. Even if Elena didn’t like being a vampire she did get used to it.
Car drives: The biggest thing I hated about the show was this! I always hated that for the sake of plot they would treat Damon having to drive Elena to New Orleans to meet Klaus (which in real life would be a twelve hour car drive) like it’s just a 15 minute drive. It always felt like a massive plot hole. Yes, I get that Damon’s immortal and he doesn’t have to get tickets, but on a show big on realism mixed with magic, it doesn’t make sense. Just him driving to say, Georgia, alone would take 8 hours, not the two hour drive the show makes it seem like. Not to mention he’s also driving an old Camaro and would need to stop for gas quite frequently. There’s also the fact he would stop to stretch his legs, likely tacking on another hour or two.
So, I’m in Season 3 finally, and I’m just a tad confused, unless I missed a scene.
When Mikael fed on Katherine, it looked like he killed her, or in this case, completely drained her to death..
so how did she reappear alive and well posing as Elena during the confrontation with Klaus.
Was it just a ploy to make it seem like Mikael drained Katherine of her blood, or did I miss a scene where she wakes up normally?
Edit: Also, if I’m posting this in the wrong place, can someone please direct me to the correct place to post?
Ok so I’ve been recently rewatching, and I just want to know how Silas knows about vampires. Considering he was trapped on the island for at least a thousand years before Esther created the originals. F for respects Edit: I’m used to all the plot holes in this show, I guess I should specify that I was just curious what theories we can all concoct to try to justify the plec-mess lol.
Hello guys , i just finished season 3
if you dont remember , at the end of the season ( before she gets turned to a vampire ) , Elena had to choose between stefan and damon as matt was driving her to one of those and she chose stefan !! i love stefan he is the good guy and everything but it just feels to unfair for damon , he took care of her maybe double the period stefan did and got reformed very well but she chose stefan ' because he was the first to come to her ' and what's even more sad is the fact that damon was the first to meet her when she was desperate and made her forget .. i dont know ef elena feels the same but it doesnt feel right that stefan got her twice , damon deserved a shot especially because she had something towards him and she even kissed him before !!
It's no secret that TVD and TO's fans love to bash Julie Plec. It's similar to George Lucas hate after the prequels, but here's the thing: Lucas hate came from those who loathed the prequels and those who jumped on their bandwagon. Plec hate, on the other hand, doesn't come from the haters, but the fans.
I've searched for similar threads on this sub, and it seems that whenever a fan sees something that s/he doesn't like on these shows, it's always Plec's fault. And those aren't even things like plot holes, conveniences, retcons or fillers (not that I think TVD suffered from any of those problems before seasons 6-8). No, the so called "criticisms" of Plec I've seen were more for the stuff like:
killing off popular but minor characters (like Kol)
daring to spend any time on Delena in the next season
not making Bonkai (Bonnie/Kai) a thing. Like, seriously, when was that even hinted?!
perceived racism in TVD's treatment of POC
While I can see merit in the last one, most of the time when the fandom complains about the many ways Plec has "ruined" the show, it's not anything close to an actual criticism of its flaws, but entitled whining that the show didn't go the way you hoped it to go because of (more often than not) your preferred pairing.
I love both shows, but TVD and TO fans seem like an exceptionally entitled and toxic bunch.
So apparently Kat Graham went off on a fan on Twitter. The fan tweeted her that she miss Bonnie. Kat tweeted back that the fan miss her character, but doesn't miss her. It goes on from there: