As some people predicted, Hulu has released all of Season 4 today, preempting the release of Season 4 in the UK tomorrow (via Amazon Prime) and in Australia (via Stan).
So here are threads for each episode for those who want to discuss the same way we did the previous seasons.
Spoilers work the same way for now:
NO SPOILERS IN POST TITLES.
Spoilers WITHIN and UP TO the episode being discussed are fine. (I.e., you can talk about anything in Season 3 in a Season 4 post; you can discuss 4x01 in the 4x06 post; etc.)
If you want to discuss ALL of Season 4, or the series overall, please use the very last post (4x08) OR make a new one.
Here are the Season 4 discussion threads:
And if you want to see past discussions, you can access them via the sidebar or the wiki.
Is Everlasting supposed to be aired live? Or semi-live? Rachel told Faith "the audience has been feeling a connection between you and Adam since the start," but the show is still filming. When they film real dating shows like Bachelor or Are You The One, don't they film it and edit it all in advance before they start airing? I don't understand how this is supposed to be working.
(No spoilers please, I'm not past S01E05)
Watching season 4 now and it's been bothering me the whole series...is the show supposed to be in California? It is so obviously set in Canada, or at least somewhere mountainous and cold. You can see their breath much of the time they talk, and the mountain shots with trees leaves turning is also hard to ignore.
I think the main reason why this bothers me so much is because I am a very cold person, and every time a character is in a swim suit or skimpy dress I FEEL for them! Ugh, I wonder if all of the actors were just cold all of the time while shooting. I know I would have been.
Yes, season 2 was bad and season 4 was a trainwreck (although the unpredictability kept me watching). But this show still had a super interesting premise and complex characters.
Do you guys know of any similar shows with premises/characters like this? I'm still kinda sad about this show ending and need something to binge to get over it
Every Monday during Season one the cast would go live on Periscope. As soon as the commercials would start the fun would begin. These videos were filmed in various cast members houses. My friend who runs sappleby.com recorded and posted most of them on Youtube. I used to have so much fun watching these. I miss the good old days.
I finished watching and have just this question, why? Why did the show think doing that Rachel is the best? Because I don’t get it? Feels so pointless seeing how there was no catharsis. Also it’s hilarious how Jay wants to leave every season but just stays around. Is everyone a coward on the show?
Hi! I'm new to this series, long time lurker of r/thebachelor though. I find Rachel to be infuriating. Jeremy is a dick. I quite like Adam despite being an ass- he doesnt pretend to be otherwise. I was almost rooting for Quinn's happiness but she fucked it up with the Madison thing.
I’ve been binge watching UnREAL over the last few weeks. I’d heard a lot of buzz about it but just never knew exactly what it was about. Started watching on Hulu and got hooked immediately. Because I binge watched I think I was able to not hate s2 and s3 as much as some others have but my god, season 4 is ROUGH. I’m about halfway through and I now hate Rachel so much that it’s distracting. I also hate that they took an interesting, nuanced character and turned her into a one dimensional villain who’s manipulative behaviors and quirks are so grating they’re actually hard to watch. And why do the writers kept introducing male characters that fall hopelessly in love with Rachel the instant she makes eye contact with them? It’s not cute or interesting. It would have made for such a better story if she had a run-in with someone who saw through her bullshit instead of falling victim to it. On the plus side, Quinn is much more fun to watch this season now that she’s not traumatizing little girls with clowns 🤷🏻♀️
Please no spoilers for Season 4 yet! Gonna binge it tomorrow on my day off.
I just feel so strongly about the show right now. I didn't hate S2 as much as everyone else, but S3 was amazing. Probably better than the first season to me.
Rachel's behavior in S3 really struck a chord with me as someone that has a lot of mental issues. It's so disturbing to see it played out on screen. Obviously it's scripted and over the top, but I relate to so much of her erratic behaviors. How she KNOWS she is self harming and hurting others and herself, but it's just all she knows to do.
I saw a thread on here saying how she is a crazy psychotic bitch and it just made me a bit upset because as someone who struggles with mental health, I really enjoy simultaneously loving and hating Rachel. I can't bring myself to completely disagree with everything she does.
Ah, sorry for the rant. Just was wondering if anyone else was shocked at how much they relate to her personality. I know there has to be others out there like me.
EDIT: Okay, watching season 4. This thread only applies to S3 and earlier. S4 is a little too crazy..even for me. Haha.
Am I just super out of the loop here, because I have no idea when season 4 will air in Canada. I know it’s been released on Hulu, but we don’t get that here and I’m dying to watch (spoilers are so enticing!)
Please please please tell me I’ll be able to start S4 soon.. or that it’s already started somewhere in this great white North!
Warning: Season 4 spoilers
While I appreciate that the show writing Rachel how everyone saw her, it would make for a better arc if it happened earlier in the series. If her history was going to be a subplot to explain why she is the way she is, if should have been presented earlier and followed by her drastic change.
Starting season 4 it felt like we missed too much to accept her manic phase, even the introduction of Tommy could've added more weight rather than throwing the character away.
The revenge fantasy arc feels jarring after Rachel's honesty camp. I wasn't expecting that the show give her a happy ending or cure her character into a better person. But her arc really suffered because it looked like they didn't know what to do with her character.
In the video that’s shown below the article Shiri admits to falling asleep one night making an episode of season 4. It made LOL thinking that even Shiri got bored and passed out.
I've only watched season 1 fyi!
I feel like most of this stuff happens, and is a good representation of what goes on behind the scenes. But things like not telling Anna about her dad being in ICU and mixing up medications for a bipolar person seems a little farfetched.
Some of these have probably been expressed by other people on this sub. I was initially sad when I found out it was the final season but by the time I finished I was kind of glad it was over. That being said I didn't hate s4. I really liked Tommy, he's really hot and very charismatic. I like his and Rachel's flirtatious relationship but by the time they actually got together it felt rushed like they spend a long weekend together and now he wants to get married we know Rachel is desperate for a relationship but we hadn't seen that in him prior. I don't get why Quinn seemed like she wanted the baby just to in the end say I'm not meant to be a mother and what was the point in having August be the father if he isn't really going to fight it when she says he can't be involved. Fiona was pointless it doesn't make sense that after she finds out about the attempted rape she's more upset at Quinn her who's suppose to be her longtime friend than Rachel. I hated the ending for Madison like I don't remember her and Jay not getting along in previous seasons so why is he so cold to her in the finale. Earlier seasons they were prepping Madison to be a young Quinn/Rachel for that to just disappear was disappointing. I loved Chet, Graham and Dan. His wife giving birth in the middle of the carnival was one of the funniest moments of the season to me. I really like August and Candy as a couple and I thought Rodrigo and Noelle were sweet when he picked her over Sophie I think her name was. I know when Noelle talking about the attempted rape and Maya just reappearing in the end was supposed to be and empowering moment but it felt cheesy to me. I don't think Quinn should have forgiven Rachel for trying to expose her it should have ended with them going their separate ways and with Rachel learning to not be so codependent. Also they were gearing up Jay to have a drug problem then after Alexei gets hurt he just stops. Since it was suppose to be an allstar cast for Everlasting I kind of wish they brought back someone from s2 though I don't know who. Now onto my thoughts on previous seasons. I actually liked Jeremy and what happened to the camera girl he dated last season. This may have been addressed but if he cut Coleman and Yael's breaks wouldn't the police be able to tell and try and investigate who cut them? That's my biggest pet peeve with this show beside them trying to do too much they just drop stuff. Like Darius' cousin getting shot.
The first season was incredible, you'd think the networks would be all over another one. But I guess one outstanding season is better than a crazy plummet in quality over three or four seasons where the plots veer off into nonsensical craziness and the characters are unrecognizable.
Dumped online on Amazon with no promotion or warning, writing is all over the place and characters and their motivation are completely rewritten and off the rails.
With that said, it's the most fun I've had since season one when I accepted for what it is.