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I have watched both seasons of the series recently. Ian, Becky and gang are adorable, but I actually agree with the Network. My views are very closely aligned to Milner.

We do need to depopulate the planet. Janus is quite humane, it doesn't kill most people. But it's also not guaranteed to work. It relies on people wanting to get the vaccine, and it relies on people not finding a cure against Janus in the decades after the vaccine. A better solution might be some kind of virus biological weapon that can randomly kill 6 billion people.

I wonder if government organizations like CDC in Atlanta have projects like this and plans for implementing it.

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Is Lee a sociopath?

I was just wondering, because whilst Lee kills people at the drop of a hat, it’s always needed, and he is never reckless or impulsive.

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So is there going to actually be a season 3?

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Utopia looks very interesting and I would love to watch it. Sadly Amazon does not even let me buy episodes as I am not in the UK.

The link in the sidebar is broken and goes nowhere. Searching around on the Channel 4 site was also unproductive.

Where can I go to actually watch?

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tl;dr - I think the Coen Brothers and their cinematographer Roger Deakins could do a good job directing and shooting Amazon's American remake of Utopia. Check out this video of some of their shots and let me know what you think.


When I first watched Utopia, it was about a month after the HBO deal for the American adaptation died. I remember reading about it after finishing the show and thinking it was a shame that it wasn't happening anymore, but that if it did happen, it could be neat if the Coen Brothers directed it.

I'm sure David Fincher would've done great, too, if the original adaptation deal worked out, but I was fine with him not doing it if someone else wanted to take the reins. I didn't know much about David Fincher's style, except that he was responsible for directing some well known shows and films like House of Cards and Fight Club and Social Network. None of those really gave me the weird, quirky, unsettling vibe that Utopia did, but from general things I'd heard about Fincher, it sounds like he could've made it work well.

But ... I remember the first names that did come to my mind when I was thinking of who could do a good job with an American remake were the Coen Brothers. I hadn't seen a whole ton of what they'd done, but I saw Fargo when I was younger and remember it definitely unsettled me and felt somewhat surreal. I'm no expert on Coen Brothers, but from that movie it really felt like they knew how to set unique tones in their films.

I looked into them a little more and found a video showing shots from their films while working with cinematographer Roger Deakins. A lot of the shots gave me some Utopia vibes, and I could see this trio making the adaptation work well. Here's the video I found:

https://vimeo.com/101802330

There are a lot of wide lens shots used, many showing nature, and camera placements feel familiar.

The camera movement feels familiar to Utopia, too - shots (often symmetrical) where the camera slowly pans forwards or backwards.

There's even a shot near the end of the above video (@ 3:40) that feels very similar to the shot in the fifth episode of Utopia where the door opens in front of us and we see Letts tied to the chair. Also, the shot @ 2:46 is reminiscent of when Jessica choked The Tramp.

I think that the Coen Brothers and Roger Deakins could be trusted to make something that feels unique and like it's own thing, but still feels familiar to the original show.


How would you all feel about the Coen Brothers directing the show? Do you still wish (or hope) David Fincher was directing it? Do you have your own thoughts on who you'd like to see direct the show or do the cinematography or compose the soundtrack or anything else?

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  1. “And then what? Whack him?” -Becky

  2. “You’re not a hobbit or a fucking space goblin” - Becky

  3. “What I like about you Wilson is the amount of stuff you know, all of it fucking useless.” “Wasn’t much use when I got my spoon out, was it?”

  4. “You’re the translator. Translate.” - Grant

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Am I not the only one who wants more backstory on Lee? He just seems to interesting and is easily one of my favourite characters in the show and I want to know more about how he came to work for the network.

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Is it to prevent blood getting on his face or...?

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I can't find any service that streams it. Any help would be much appreciated....

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As a big fan of Utopia I was incredibly happy to hear the news that Amazon had ordered a Utopia remake. Obviously, nothing will beat the original series being extended with the same writer, director, cast, DoP and composer etc. But, what do you guys think the show will have to do to keep old Utopia fans invested?

Personally, I think they'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't at the very least try to maintain similar cinematography and music. Or, to keep what was created with Utopia and to add to it, instead of simply copying the general style and rules they used for composition and colour grading.

I'm most excited to know where the story will go, even if they do something entirely different. And hope that Dennis Kelly at least has something to do with it.

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So, in season 1, episode 1, in the comic store, one customer says: “Can i go? Can i just go please?” And in season 2, episode 2, the person who wrote a book on deels, who is being kidnapped by donaldson and becky also says almost the exact same lines. I think this is intentional. Dennis Kelly doesn’t shy away from easter eggs or even references to himself (when he put his own face in the list of photos of people they suspected to be Mr.Rabbit)

Could be purely coincidence though! Just something fun i noticed because it’s s1ep1 and s2ep2.

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I enjoyed the cliffhanger as a proper finale because I think it fits the tone of despair of the rest of the series. The absurdly powerful few keep doing what they want to the rest of the people and there's still no solution to the imminent catastrophe.

No matter how many seasons they make and how many you watch. You'll end the series eventually and will return to the real world where the same crap never seems to end.

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