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[–]ElectricSundance 636 points637 points  (16 children)

Was expecting memes for Ultracheese but instead got feels

[–]sfmusicman 124 points125 points  (0 children)

Wasn’t expecting it to be one of the strongest songs imo

[–]atropicalpenguin 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Love the "It's all between us, Steinway&Sons" line.

[–]Rom-Gr 30 points31 points  (9 children)

It's tune around the line "I've still got pictures of friends on the wall" is reminding me of another song not by AM.. it's killing me and I can't remember which one it is!

[–]itram 17 points18 points  (1 child)

There’s something strikingly familiar about that tune, which I think adds to the instant connection everyone has with it.

[–]Jmidt 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It did remind me abit of Cornerstone

[–]Tacticaldeadguy 757 points758 points  (28 children)

First listen, nothing really stood out for me except 4/5 & The Ultracheese. Everything just blurred together a bit for me. Understandable as its a concept album so the songs will be similar in tone but some tracks just felt like jaded filler. Just picking through songs i am starting to really enjoy American sports, title track and Batphone aswell. Stupid for me to bother forming an opinion so early as i'm enjoying it more and more with each listen.

[–]Doctor-Geek[🍰] 220 points221 points  (3 children)

"Stupid for me to bother forming an opinion so early"

If only more people were like you this world be a better, less noisy place

[–]jakethemaggot 133 points134 points  (9 children)

Same here. Couldn’t really decipher track from track on the first listen but now each one stands out and has very distinct qualities to it that are simply amazing.

[–]ChilliIsMyMiddleName 205 points206 points  (5 children)

I didn't even notice when One Point Perspective ended and American Sports started lmao

[–]7hflightor45mindrive 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Thought I was the only one! 😂

[–]germibobi 31 points32 points  (1 child)

For me it's 4/5 and Golden Trunks.

[–]qspure 24 points25 points  (1 child)

the outro of batphone with the heavy bass, so good.

first listen just done. i was hoping for more things along the lines of AM, but this is way more experimental.

I don't agree with people comparing it to EYCTE, as that had a couple of pretty catchy tunes/riffs, such as Dracula teeth, miracle aligner etc. more akin to earlier AM songs. TBH&C is a whole different experience.

[–]Kumielvis 427 points428 points  (23 children)

I grew to love arctic monkeys because of the guitars, drums and the energy. This album might take a while to get into.

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    [–]ganja_is_ganja 29 points30 points  (7 children)

    i think this is what I'm feeling too. I was like 12 or 13 when the first album came out. I listen to every album the day it comes out all day. It's amazing to see their sound mature as my life matures. I fucking love Arctic Monkeys.

    This album is weird and shitty and amazing and perfect. I love it.

    [–]jonesy827 30 points31 points  (5 children)

    Same here, except I don't see myself listening to it enough times for it to grow on me. If something isn't worth listening to to start, it's just not worth my time. This is why I still don't listen to all but a few tracks from SIAS and AM.

    [–]theivoryserf 17 points18 points  (2 children)

    If something isn't worth listening to to start, it's just not worth my time.

    ie how to miss out on a lot of good art

    [–]jonesy827 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    It's not a hard and fast rule, but 3 or more times through an album before I like it is too much

    [–]theivoryserf 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Yeah that's fair

    [–]tumblrmustbedown 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Finally got to give it a listen and I’m relieved to see others feel this way. My #1 album is Favourite Worst Nightmare, I love the banging on my steering wheel belting type songs. This is a starkly different vibe.

    [–]randomise78 591 points592 points  (18 children)

    Said this elsewhere:

    I feel like I've been waiting 5 years for tacos. I really like tacos and wanted some, but the person who was taking me for tacos has instead taken me for a really good steak dinner. Like properly good. I'm really enjoying it, but i'm gonna want some tacos next week.

    [–]FallingAbout 45 points46 points  (1 child)

    What about...steak tacos?

    [–]ChilliIsMyMiddleName 23 points24 points  (0 children)

    You're onto something

    [–]just_another_jules 28 points29 points  (3 children)

    I know where to find a taqueria...it’s got pretty good reviews

    [–]The3rdbaboon 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    I’ve heard it’s unheard of

    [–]rider_0n_the_st0rm 59 points60 points  (0 children)

    this is definitely the best way of describing it

    [–]hootahatake 20 points21 points  (0 children)

    Wow lol

    [–]omgyuleh 186 points187 points  (1 child)

    Information action ratio is fun to say

    [–]harkku 23 points24 points  (0 children)

    At the in-formation ac-tion ra-TIOOO-ooh

    [–]forestfrontier 378 points379 points  (6 children)

    One of my favourite Arctic Monkeys songs is No. 1 Party Anthem, which is a pretty slow song.

    Now they’ve given me a whole album of slower songs and.... I don’t like it. It’s admittedly disappointing. But I respect the band going in a new artistic direction and obviously they don’t owe me anything and they can do whatever they want. It’s just not for me.

    Four Out Of Five is incredible though and I still can’t wait to see them live.

    [–]yougotKOED 23 points24 points  (0 children)

    Couldn't have said it better. Each album has its lowkey songs which I love, but you need heavier tunes as well. The softer songs work because of the contrast, not the content.

    [–]gigolobob 59 points60 points  (2 children)

    4/5 is also my favorite. As for the rest of the album.. 1/5

    [–]TMillo 20 points21 points  (0 children)

    I wouldn't say 1/5 but it's definitely not a big hit for me. It has some great songs on for me but a lot of the experimenting missed the mark for me and I was excited for a new sound.

    3/5 for the album seems fair to me. Which is only bad because we've had a few 5/5 albums from them

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      [–]Thadderful 191 points192 points  (21 children)

      After the second album they haven't stuck to a single strand though?

      Admittedly this is a much larger risk than the others but I don't think it proceeds in any vein of their previous work as Arctic Monkeys sonically, nor creatively as it is clearly Alex-centric.

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        [–]DarkOwl38 103 points104 points  (10 children)

        • From the second album

        Anyone who thinks FWN isn't a significantly transitional departure (leading to Humbug) from the frenetic post-punk sound of their debut can fight me.

        [–]OGPirateMaterial 33 points34 points  (6 children)

        Yeah I’ve been seeing so many references pointing to FWN and WPSIATWIN being cut from the same cloth, when FWN is definitely different and you can hear certain aspects of it on Humbug. Definitely a gradual movement and all albums have been different for me.

        [–]hecthormurilo 46 points47 points  (3 children)

        Half of FWN could easily be at WPSIATWIN without anyone feeling weird.

        [–]DarkOwl38 17 points18 points  (1 child)

        Precisely! Both FWN and SIAS are not given enough love for the important transitional role they play in a discographical (?) sense for the Monkeys. FWN contains strains of WPSIA and Humbug, while SIAS contains strains of Humbug and AM -- all the while each maintaining its own distinct identities, respectively. That's what makes their discography so fucking beautiful.

        [–]bjankles 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        It's a departure (evolution might be the better word) but it's not a risk. No one who liked Whatever People Say is going to put on FWN and think "Where's all the stuff I liked about this band?!" All the staples are there.

        [–]holanewman 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        And then they gave it 2/5 (insert 4 Stars Out Of Five joke here). I was puzzled by their review, honestly. I wasn't crazy about the album at first, but man is that different on the second and third go-around.

        [–]Crazyplan9 31 points32 points  (1 child)

        Its true....but I find this to be a successful experiment. Its bound to be divisive....the greatest art always is.

        [–]AnduwinHS 316 points317 points  (13 children)

        If this hasn't shown that Arctic Monkeys need to write the next Bond theme I don't know what will

        [–]BooshAC 122 points123 points  (3 children)

        I wouldn't be surprised if they did actually. Danny Boyle is directing and he's known for his taste in alternative music, and had AM perform at the Olympic opening ceremony.

        [–]s1me007 31 points32 points  (0 children)

        Dude that would be awesome

        [–]Black_Neon 24 points25 points  (0 children)

        I didn’t know I wanted this until now

        [–]rodent567 506 points507 points  (23 children)

        Just finished listening, and I'm trying so hard to convince myself I like it, but honestly this just isn't the catchy Arctic Monkeys I know and love. This is so much more mature than the classic, punky AM. Maybe it'll grow on me.

        [–]consciouslyoblivious 230 points231 points  (10 children)

        I somehow feel the same, this is a cool album but not what I expected or wanted.

        [–]SometimeSomber 180 points181 points  (4 children)

        It honestly doesn't feel like a rock and roll record. We all wanted that.

        I'm not gonna lie my expectations weren't really met, it feels a lot like some of the later Bowie stuff in that you can appreciate it, but not really enjoy it the way you can his earlier stuff.

        The lyrics and style I am absolutely in love with though. I don't think I'll be able to add very many tracks to my Arctic Monkeys playlist, but for the shitty sad nights I'll have a direct line to the moon

        [–]consciouslyoblivious 28 points29 points  (1 child)

        My expectations weren't met as well, per se. But I agree with you, this is for those sad nights. Now back to Humbug and SIAS.

        [–]SometimeSomber 18 points19 points  (0 children)

        "Some o dat 'otel music. Some o dat new moon music"

        [–]rodent567 28 points29 points  (3 children)

        Exactly, like I appreciate the level of production and I can see myself listening to this in certain moods but there was no single stand out, feel-good song on the album

        [–]momentswithfeathers 18 points19 points  (1 child)

        Agreed, it's pretty toned down compared to their other stuff. It's not bad, but it isn't the first AM album I'd recommend to other people. I was anticipating a lot of upbeat rock, but most of the album is just kinda... ambient. Feels more like a Shadow Puppets album, to be honest. I think the songs all fit together really well though (probably because they all sound somewhat similar), it's a pretty laid-back album and I like it overall.

        [–]vinthemiddle 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        Yeah agree, just finished first list and nothing jumped out and grabbed me. I’ve never been a fan of their slower stuff. Hoping it will grow!

        [–]crouching_tiger 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        Totally felt the same on my first two listens. Took me a little while to get into his slower, ballad-type singing. However, once I kinda listened closer to his voice and inflections, as well it compliments the intricate blend of instruments/sounds, I'm in love. Particularly in Star Treatment, One Point, She Looks Fun, and Batphone.

        [–]wardowardont 375 points376 points  (13 children)

        The Last Shadow Monkeys

        [–]Crazyplan9 196 points197 points  (5 children)

        Who the fuck are Arctic Shadows

        [–]Black_Neon 42 points43 points  (1 child)

        Arctic Shadow definitely sounds like a villain from a comic book

        [–]pmnettlea 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        This album sounds like TSLP if you take Miles out of the equation and take a left-field turn. Miles' new single Loaded sounds like TSLP if you take Alex out.

        So maybe when Coup de Grace comes out we can meld the two and make an awesome LSP double album.

        [–]CSmith489 258 points259 points  (15 children)

        I seriously love this album and it's combination of smooth sexiness, darkness, and ultracheesiness. My favorites are American Sports, Golden Trunks, and Science Fiction. Alex's voice is soooo good.

        [–]Saucy_Man11 71 points72 points  (13 children)

        Granted, I’ve only listened twice, but what do you find attractive about Golden Trunks? Probably my least favorite so far. I really want to like it though! I think it is a victim of placement. Hard to be memorable between the title track and 4/5

        [–]CSmith489 60 points61 points  (10 children)

        I think it really stands out on the album with it's unique sound and has a rather new, dark sound for them. The guitar riff and "the leader of the free world..." line have been stuck in my head all week.

        [–]BigElvesy 124 points125 points  (8 children)

        Firstly, I hate the whole “if you dont like this album you probably only like AM” or the they change their style for every album why did you expect something like AM crowd.

        I didnt, i didnt expect AM part 2. I love that they change their style, i love each album for its own merits, some obviously more than others but could easily sing the praises of each one.

        I knew there would be a progression away from AM and i was excited for what was next

        But, im really struggling with this. TBHC doesnt feel like an Arctic Monkeys album to me. It feels like “Alex Turner & his mates”. With the exception of 3/4 which is an instant hit for me, im struggling to feel the love at the moment.

        And i dont think anybody could be blamed for that or should be castigated as “not a true fan” or a “AM bandwagoner”.

        I pray its a grower, i pray as i listen and persevere that i fall in love like i did with every album before hand, but right now, im struggling, and its heartbreaking.

        [–]KopiteSpartan 70 points71 points  (3 children)

        This, the 'they're not going to sing about getting pissed and bouncers anymore, you probably only got into them with AM' gatekeeper bullshit is wearing incredibly thin. I love all their albums, not digging this one. Sorry.

        [–]slightlyburntcereal 30 points31 points  (0 children)

        It’s ridiculous people even suggest that. It is absolutely ok to be a fan of any band or musician, and not like some of their work. Just look at the difference between this and their first album. You wouldn’t even know they’re the same band. Some people will like it all, which is fine, some people will only like their old stuff and not their new direction, which is fine, and some people won’t like their old stuff and only like their new stuff, which again, is fine. Calling out fake fans of a band is so immature.

        [–]flexytev 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        Amen. I was waiting on this one and have loved their evolution through every album. I started with Joshua Homme’s bands so the Humbug jump was a pleasing transition to me. I’m finishing up my first listen now, and I’m just yawning. This isn’t the last shadow puppets (I like them a lot too), this sounds like an Alex Turner solo project. I’m disappointed at bits with myself and the band. I’m not sure if I’m at a Michelin starred restaurant and I’m just not worldly enough to enjoy the food, or if it’s actually just unappetizing.

        Hoping this grows on me, but this might find itself in the back of my catalogue. Time to spin it again....maybe when I’m a little more rested.

        [–]CFCJoe_ 39 points40 points  (7 children)

        I’m pretty disappointed overall. I don’t think the album is terrible but it’s not great at all. I’ve loved the Arctic Monkeys since the first album was released and I like that they change their sound with every album, to me that’s the sign of a great band. I don’t want or expect them to write a Whatever People Say I Am 2.0 or Humbug 2.0 etc

        But this album it’s just too far. When I think of the Arctic Monkeys I think of loud guitar riffs and big drum beats. This album is seriously lacking any of that. It’s too slow, all the songs sound kind of the same and there’s far too much piano.

        If Alex Turner wanted to release an album like this it should’ve been a solo album, this doesn’t sound or feel like Arctic Monkeys at all.

        I’ll keep trying to get on with it but I can’t see myself buying it on vinyl or ever wanting to listen to it like I listen to the other albums.

        [–]TheCashmereTower 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        Has such a solo album vibe. Where is the fucking band? Boring. Boring. Boring.

        [–]Buffarrow 261 points262 points  (12 children)

        Honestly, I get entirely why some real AM fans may not like this at all. But im having the time of my life right now, this shit is incredible. My only slight disappointment is the main riff throughout 4/5 seemed like it was going to be a lot beefier from the teaser.

        [–]DocHolliday619 75 points76 points  (6 children)

        A lot of "real AM" fans, including myself, hated Humbug when it came out. Now it's possibly my favorite AM record and highly regarded on this subreddit. I enjoyed my first listen of this album far more than my first of Humbug. Not saying it's going to rank better than Humbug but just saying let's not overreact one way or the other. I'm excited to listen to this album a bunch and see where it ends up.

        [–]homo_redditorensis 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        I'm excited to listen to this album a bunch and see where it ends up.

        YESS. This is such a juicy concept album. I feel like I've been handed a new world that I'll be discovering for the next few years.

        [–]tamasuperstar 34 points35 points  (0 children)

        This is my assessment, I guess in less disappointed than people who loved AM because:

        A: I love this side of Arctic Monkeys

        B: I'll be honest this is exactly the album I was expecting, a lot of people are saying this is a surprise, but watching Alex's musical and stylistic progression and the feeling I had that they'd basically go anti commercial after AM meant this came as little surprise.

        It's brilliant though so far. It's like Wes Anderson the album.

        [–]BHButcher 35 points36 points  (2 children)

        So many moments listening to it the first time where I couldn’t help but chuckle at just how good it is

        [–]nomorericeguy 107 points108 points  (3 children)

        I am whelmed. I feel like it's an album which will grow on me though. Reminds me a lot of the last Shadow puppets recent work.

        [–]Bacobeaner 73 points74 points  (4 children)

        Perhaps it is me used to the huge dynamic range of prog rock music, but I think a reason that the album doesn't stand out for me on first listen in the lack in stylistic variation between songs. Sure, the musicianship is there, but for me, an album needs to stretch themes and sometimes take the listener down an alleyway that they weren't expecting. I didn't get that on first listen, sadly. To me, it sounds like lounge music that is easy to listen to in the background but does not do much to grab the listener's attention

        [–]dennyfader 22 points23 points  (2 children)

        That’s my one gripe as well! There’s so little variation... I get that they were playing on a theme, but even in that context, they could have delivered a bit more of a range.

        [–]OKidAComputer 365 points366 points  (19 children)

        It's ok, but it just sounds like one big long version of #1 Party Anthem.

        [–]arcticbatman 320 points321 points  (4 children)

        It feels like Party Anthem grabbed a glass of whiskey and sat on the bar of an old hotel for 40 minutes

        [–]greyzski 35 points36 points  (2 children)

        I agree and I'm digging it more as I accept that's what it is. No 1 party anthem is definitely one of my tops anyway though.

        [–]NvizoN 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        I feel like No 1 Party Anthem in really underrated and it's a shame.

        [–]Llamalewis 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Absolutely love it, maybe my favourite song from AM but it isn't a 'banger'; it's a mood setter.

        [–]Corona2789 59 points60 points  (1 child)

        With some “I wanna be yours” in there

        [–]HankMoodyMaddafakaaa 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        One of my faves

        [–]monsquesce 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        I haven't listened to the album yet but I love that song so hopefully I'll be a fan of the new album.

        [–]capomatt95 98 points99 points  (7 children)

        Would anybody on this subreddit actually even dare to admit they didn't like it? haha

        [–]sircaseyjames 60 points61 points  (1 child)

        I'm just a visitor on the sub to see what else everyone else had to say about it. All Im ganna say is I'm quite let down lol. I'm super excited to see them this summer, but tbh I hope they stick to playing mostly their older stuff.

        [–]kineticshtaaave 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I think its trash

        [–]YeshKesh 168 points169 points  (4 children)

        "I've been driving around listening to the SCOOOOOOOREEEEEE"

        Love that part so much

        [–]SausageBarm 63 points64 points  (13 children)

        Only listened to it once so it could change, but it kinda feels like it fell apart in the second half? Maybe it could be because the style got old by that point or me getting more tired as the night progresses (it's late), but the songs seemed to become much more tedious. The first half was amazing, but it feels like the second half lost it's spark. It also felt like the hotel concept disappeared after 4/5 and the lyrics instead became more personal to Alex and society, which isn't bad but I feel like there was more potential.

        Also, I don't really know anything about mixing, but did it seem off to anyone else? For an album so heavily based on lyrics, I felt like the vocals weren't pronounced enough. The instruments and sounds also didn't feel really high quality and not in an intentional way, and the explosive parts didn't feel as explosive as they could've been, but idk

        [–]ChilliIsMyMiddleName 36 points37 points  (4 children)

        Wow, for me it was the complete opposite. The first three tracks felt messy and a bit unsettling, but after TBHC came on it got wayy better for me.

        I agree with what you said about mixing. I'm no expert either, but the instruments felt too distant and not nearly as powerful and they didn't shine a whole lot.

        [–]PuffingTom 69 points70 points  (0 children)

        I’m honestly really disappointed. I appreciate the artistic shift and experimentation but this one isn’t for me.

        [–]blackmeout88 190 points191 points  (18 children)

        Bit of a snooze fest on first listen. What’s the point of having a drummer that good in your band if this is the music you’re going to make? They mellowed out significantly since Humbug, but there’s always been memorable melodies and textures, now it sounds a lot like elevator music with Alex talking over the top. I did love the more open and honest approach to lyric writing though, the Ultracheese really has some emotional weight to it.

        [–]VintageOctopus 55 points56 points  (15 children)

        I agree with this quite a bit. Alex seems to be alive on the vocals in parts (primarily Ultracheese), but the rest of the band feels like they're holding back or at least toning way down. I really feel like the energy level from them has weakened a little more with every album... this isn't a bad album, but the energy and passion between the performances on this album versus Favourite Worst Nightmare feel many decades apart.

        [–]thatindiefan 122 points123 points  (8 children)

        It's about half and half for me half amazing tunes half boring let down

        [–]Thadderful 61 points62 points  (7 children)

        Which were the amazing tunes for you, apart from Four out of Five?

        I've only listened to it once and that is the only song that had anything memorable in a positive way for me.

        So underwhelmed for Arctic Monkeys, will have to relisten obviously and not writing it off yet however.

        Personally it feels like Submarine taken to out of space on an organ.

        [–]thatindiefan 26 points27 points  (1 child)

        The ultracheese is my personal favourite but ik it's not everyone's cup of tea One point perspective Golden trunks She looks like fun Four out of five And I'm in the middle on star treatment

        [–]Cormayno 17 points18 points  (1 child)

        Not OP but I really liked Batphone on my first listen too, but every song is improving as I listen to it repeatedly.

        [–]BigPaw009 153 points154 points  (9 children)

        Incredibly different and a bit polarizing at first, but holy fuck do I love it. Totally bold move on their part to change so drastically. It’s lived up to the hype in my eyes

        [–]ChilliIsMyMiddleName 33 points34 points  (0 children)

        If there's one thing I love about the bois is how bold they are when trying out new stuff

        [–]lgmp 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Same! Just listened to it for the first time on my way to work and I loved it from the start. The sun was still coming up while I was listening so the setting was perfect.

        I was listening to WPSIAM last night and I realized that's why I love AM so much. Each album is so different but IMHO they always pull it off. There's something for every mood.

        [–]MesoHandsome 76 points77 points  (5 children)

        I have been in possession of the album for roughly 3 days now and im already over it. When I open the folder and pick a tune I just keep choosing the same 3 songs over and over (4/5, TBHC, and Ultracheese). Everything else is wildly forgettable. In all honesty, I truly believe once the honey moon stage is over more people will come around to this view point. I don't see this album having the staying power or impact the previous 5 releases had. That stretch of Golden Trunks, Monster Truck, Science Fiction, She Looks Like Fun, and Batphone is just a total monotonous drag to me. Every time even the slightest bit of melody starts to rear its head, it changes up to some minor diminished chords that pulls me right out of it, almost as if its trying to be not catchy and ear grabbing. It's almost frustrating to listen to. The album starts strong but slowly shows its redundancy by the end. With that being said, the production is fantastic and is a delight to the ears level wise. I just personally cant get behind more than 50% of the album, and thats never happened with an Arctic Monkeys album, not even AM. My opinion is coming from over 7 complete spins of the album so it pains me to realize my initial disappointment isn't going anywhere. I also want to address a lot of the comments that imply not liking the new album is directly correlated to someones inability to be open minded and accepting of the bands new direction. It sort of paints discussion threads like this in a negative light and comes off as pretentious. With that being said, if you enjoy the album, rock on. Maybe one day it will click for me as well!

        [–]latenightfiction 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        I agree with you, and about what you said about them trying to not be catchy - I think they were trying to do what a lot of psychedelic bands do where they deconstruct a standard, catchy melody to throw you off with an unexpected key change. It works if the melody itself is good and the rest of the song is consistent, but every fucking attempt at a melody had them, they really overused it. It's like when they were writing the songs they thought "what would be a good chord change here? Okay, now what's the opposite of that?".

        [–]s1me007 17 points18 points  (0 children)

        Exactly. They went Tame Impala but it doesn’t suit them

        The epitome of that is the Start Treatment hook: « the martiiini police » - sudden cut to random elevator jazz chords when they could have gone for a catchy af moment. He’s listened to too much Gainsbourg imo

        Frustrating

        [–]Niwatori505 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Every time even the slightest bit of melody starts to rear its head, it changes up to some minor diminished chords that pulls me right out of it

        This is what irritates me about the record the most at the moment.

        [–]NinjaMonkey99 102 points103 points  (7 children)

        After 2 listens four out of five is the only song I want to listen to again, I can see it being a grower after more but so far its Last shadow puppets minus Miles Kane

        [–]Corosz 67 points68 points  (2 children)

        I agree. Not at all what I expected, I'm kinda disappointed. Excited what the future will bring for them.

        [–]NinjaMonkey99 18 points19 points  (1 child)

        Yeah I’m fine them going a different direction and am happy they did, but I expect this to be a one off where they try and make a Bowie album. Still love them as a band and will keep listening! Just can’t see this being even halfway up my monkeys list

        [–]esmeraldacountyline 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        Man i actually like some TLSP songs much more than this album. I’m only on my first listen and I’m hoping that it’ll grow on me, but I’m not gonna force it. I still like the band but if this album didn’t connect with me, I’ll just accept it and enjoy their old stuff.

        [–]Thadderful 30 points31 points  (2 children)

        Not only is it the only song I want to listen to again (after one listen admittedly) but its the only song that has anything memorable in a positive way imo.

        That riff is so different from the rest of the album and was so prevalent in the marketing that it makes me wonder if that song was forced to be included by the label...

        [–]drtrillphill 99 points100 points  (5 children)

        I really like this album, the song about Dancing Shoes is really good

        [–]KalistramMcleod 99 points100 points  (3 children)

        To me this record tried too hard to reach a masterpiece status. I respect them for being that bold, changing the entire structure of their music.

        That said, IMO it falls flat and it is very dull. 11 slow tracks that get surprisingly carried on by Alex’s voice but there’s not much else there. Over repetitiveness in the arrangements and some very derivative sounds.

        I totally get why some people love it though, it has an alluring mood and it is quite interesting.

        I’d summarize it as a very well crafted idea that I just don’t like.

        [–]BooksAndViruses 12 points13 points  (1 child)

        I agree, and I’m REALLY curious as to how they’ll implement these songs in a setlist with the rest of their catalogue (and I’m now kicking myself, again, for not finding a way to see them around Humbug or SIAS)

        [–]sink257 63 points64 points  (4 children)

        I can see why it was almost an Alex Turner solo record. Lots of Submarine vibes.

        I actually quite like Star Treatment, American Sports, Title Track, Four out of Five, She Looks Like Fun.

        Come to think of it, the record reminds me of Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds too.

        [–]Toulldu 85 points86 points  (8 children)

        Cool album, but not the best imo. It lacks of some heaviness. But maybe I need some time to truly appreciate it

        [–]kapparock123 40 points41 points  (5 children)

        Cool album, but not the best imo. It lacks of some heaviness. But maybe I need some time to truly appreciate it

        Totally agree with you mate. I honestly thought this was gonna be their best due to the long break. Still deciding if I like this better than SIAS. (My favorites still hasn’t changed: FWN & Humbug).

        For now, I think AM is better than TBHC. I also think DIWK is better than 4 out of 5 by a mile.

        Unpopular opinion: Is it just me or Alex vocals here are not as great as AM? The way he phrases words here is not as great. He over-enunciates the words and puts unnecessary emphasis to some of them.

        [–]charliepanek 20 points21 points  (2 children)

        it sounds like he's going for an elvis effect. ya idk it wasn't so pleasing

        [–]kapparock123 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        He went for elvis effect mid suck it and see and in AM. It sounded okay. (It sounded weird, but it sounded chill and pleasing).

        Now it just sounds too much for me.

        [–]3amz 95 points96 points  (1 child)

        Four out of Five

        [–]zahasendsshops 438 points439 points  (55 children)

        Never known an album that improves with every listen.

        Listen 1: Meh. Pretty good.

        Listen 2: Mmmhmm, this is smooth.

        Listen 3: This is rather lovely, y'know.

        Listen 4: This is genius. Christ, so cool.

        Listen 5: THIS IS THE GREATEST SHIT I HAVE EVER HEARD. I AM ON THE MOON. WE, ARE ON THE MOON.

        [–]PandanoidAndroid 71 points72 points  (15 children)

        I didn't heard the album yet (waiting for the Spotify release), but you should really listen to some Radiohead albums. Trust me, they are growers.

        Listen to OK Computer for a couple of times, it's probably their most successful album. After that, keep listening to their discography. Thank me later.

        [–]xkittenpuncher 18 points19 points  (2 children)

        In Rainbows is also a pretty fucking good album.

        [–]zahasendsshops 28 points29 points  (2 children)

        Long time Radiohead fan. Couldn't agree more.

        [–]Crazyplan9 15 points16 points  (1 child)

        Longer time Radiohead fan here, absolutely right. Each album has its own unique charm, slow burning beauties. Let it sink in, yo.

        [–]Nitrop199 157 points158 points  (19 children)

        > Never known an album that improves with every listen.

        I mean, apart from Humbug and Suck it and see, yeah :p

        [–]Paladinoras 51 points52 points  (9 children)

        Probably not a popular sentiment, but I enjoyed Suck It and See from the first listen. Hellcat Spangled Shalalala is still in my daily rotation

        [–]Kolo_ToureHH 24 points25 points  (4 children)

        I get shit for it from my mates, but Suck It and See is one of my favourite albums.

        [–]OGPirateMaterial 32 points33 points  (3 children)

        Mate Suck it and See is an absolute banger of an album. When it’s sunny, get it on in the car, turn up the volume and roll down the windows and tell me it isn’t perfect to drive around to.

        [–]Kolo_ToureHH 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        Oh I’ve done that countless times man. One of my favourite things about summer time.

        [–]SirenShoe 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        same here. I don't understand the hate it gets in this sub.

        [–]itsjoncharles 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        It was my favourite before this. Everyone laughed at me ... I don't know why. Honestly think it's an incredibly complete album.

        [–]zahasendsshops 25 points26 points  (2 children)

        I quite liked that from the start!

        [–]Nitrop199 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        YEAH AND LIKE YOU SAID IT GETS EVEN BETTER !

        [–]tallmotherfucker 13 points14 points  (1 child)

        100% what happened to me and humbug. I hated it so much

        Now I cannot go without it

        [–]consciouslyoblivious 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I was in love with SIAS before I heard it.

        [–]CedarCabPark 13 points14 points  (3 children)

        It's like Blonde on Blonde by Bob Dylan. Very similar situation. They're so unorthodox and so damn dense.

        I thought Blonde on Blonde was this kind of slow boring blues album. Not a blues fan. And... yeah now it's my favorite album. Or top 3 easy.

        Grower albums are the best.

        [–]ElectricSundance 26 points27 points  (1 child)

        Same thoughts with Kid A and A Moon Shaped Pool on my first listen

        It just grows on you bit by bit

        [–]MarkOfTheEld 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        If only I had more upvotes to give.

        [–]MgZIA 18 points19 points  (0 children)

        golden trunks is such a boring song

        [–]avatar-korra 33 points34 points  (1 child)

        I’ve been listening to them since the debut. And Ive always fallen on the side that believed their music got better and better as their career progressed.

        I’ve only heard this album a few times, but what stands out to me - is how little “hooks” this record has. Even Humbug (which i personally love), even that album has catchy riffs and melodic choruses. Even fans that don’t like that album can admit that.

        Not only does this album lack traditional hooks, Turners vocals also take a lot of risks (a lot of falsetto and odd shifts). So does that make this album bad?

        The production on this album is IMO amazing. This album heavily relies on “atmosphere” and has a hypnotic vibe. Listening to this record with headphones is a treat.

        Basically the way I see it, this album is more about sound and flow. It lacks the traditional song structures and hooks you expect from them. So it makes sense why some would love this record, and some will hate it. I can understand why some would find it boring or underwhelming. While others would find it musically engaging and an experience.

        Either way, it’s clear the band took a big risk with this one. I don’t see it having much commercial success. Although I could see it being a hit with some critics, and being a cult hit with a slice of their fan base.

        [–]amonaroll 62 points63 points  (0 children)

        "I've still got pictures of friends on the wall..."

        I'm not crying you're crying

        [–]potlah 68 points69 points  (1 child)

        Personal opinions ahead. Personal picks for favorites in no particular order goes to Star Treatment, 4/5 and Ultracheese. This is based on two rounds of listening to the album so:

        • Star Treatment: A bit of a slow introduction but Alex’s singing is definitely a step above anything I’ve heard so far (and by so far I mean his whole career). The only song I can think of that comes close to this level of vocal performance is one of my favorite covers from TLSP (Is This What You Wanted?).

        • One Point Perspective: Hypnotic drum introduction and that guitar solo. Seems to follow on with the slowish vibes from the first track. Not much comments on this track.

        • American Sports: TRANSITION. Spooky vibes. The speed has picked up with some Dracula worthy harpsichords. The amount of layering is this track is pretty nice (especially in the part where the guitar kicks in and Alex’s voice just echoes).

        • Tranquility Base: Title track. Seems to be picking up elements from the past three tracks. And boy is that bass nice and THICC in the second verse. I like how the main harpsichord-esque instrument just glitches out at the end and goes full squeak mode (I do enjoy my fair share of bitcrushers).

        • Golden Trunks: Cool riff and harmonies. Not much to comment on the track.

        • 4/5: Damn this song has good energy (you can almost hear Alex gripping you with his voice, fits with the marketing strategy the song is going for). Feels like it could’ve fit on AM quite nicely. Wish that outro was a bit more explosive; was expecting a full-on explosion instead of it going back and ending with the main riff. Probably my favorite so far.

        • Monster Truck: Circusy vibes. Not much to comment on this one. Seems like the album is moving back to the slow pace of the first tracks.

        • Science Fiction: Think it would’ve been better if they pulled that spoopy alien string ambience thing from the background and made it the focus since the song is literally called science fiction.

        • She Looks Like Fun: BRICK BY…. She looks like fun. Have I mentioned the bass on this album is amazing? But yeah, aside from the bass not much to comment on. The interlude picks up a bit but doesn’t really end up going anywhere.

        • Batphone: I like the cheeky piano on this track. Not much to add.

        • Ultracheese: There’s some tracks I wish took the direction of this track. A bit more stripped back and giving a bit more spotlight on the piano and vocals rather than adding some ambient noises to give it some ‘layer’ (but in actuality is just adding unnecessary clutter). The moment the guitar kicks in is simply gorgeous, Great ending to the album.

        Like I’ve commented previously, the album honestly feels like a ‘what if a TLSP record was recorded by the bois from Arctic Monkeys?’ record. The prevalent bass work really carries most of the weight and I see it as the driving force behind most tracks. Alex’s vocals have also noticeably gotten stronger (probably taking notes from his TLSP sessions; I can definitely hear some nuances that he learnt/brought from the side project) and he's more willing to explore his vocal range on all tracks across.

        Whilst I didn't really find myself enjoying the two albums by TLSP, I really enjoyed The Dream Synopsis EP they released. It was honestly a matter of time before Alex brought his influences from the side project into the AM. Whilst I expected a few tracks to borrow elements from TLSP; I was not expecting a full album to follow suit alongside the touches from the SIAS and Humbug era.

        The album is definetely a grower and takes some time to get used to as more and more instrumental layers are picked up on with each listen. However, I do wish that the band took a step further and went even crazier in their experimentation. Some of the parts that could've brought a new dimension to the songs seemed rather tamed or lost under the mix (like the aforementioned alien vibes on Science Fiction). I also wished that some of the songs had a bit more energy and a bit more variation in the drums rather than it just taking the backburner of the album.

        Reading up on the lyrics, it seems most of the lyrics is aimed at a hotel for people to experience reality instead of being glued to technology. Make of it what you will, I don’t know what to make of it myself at the moment. The album feels more like an experience rather than a collection of tracks from Arctic Monkeys' previous works and as such; the play value of each track is reliant on its placement and flow of the general ambience and atmosphere provided within the album itself. But within this is also the weakness of the album in that some tracks fail to stand alone by themselves as they simply don't have the weight to carry through. It is honestly not too difficult to fall out of the vibes of the album at times due to the way the album is.

        It is completely understandable that fans will be divided on the direction the Arctic Monkeys have taken in this album; from the hip hop, drum & bass, beat centric album of AM to a much, much more mellow ambience-based album like Tranquility Base Hotel. In fact, those solely fans coming for more AM-esque songs may be disappointed as the boys have clearly taken a step back and re-evaluated their approach (which in all honesty, isn't something new seeing how different the tone of the albums from FWN to AM have been).

        For those who are fans of the fast Arctic Monkeys, there won’t be much to enjoy aside from 4/5 since that’s the only track that even comes remotely close to their previous work in AM. Not really the type of album you want to play to get up and rock on or dance to. More of an ambient album you’d want to chill to with a pipe and a vinyl record in your cozy home next to a bonfire and that wall mounted animal head right above.

        I for one find myself enjoying this album more and more with each listen as I find more to appreciate within each track and the cohesion of the album as a whole. However, I am not completely sold that the album as a whole is 'great' as it definetely falls short when it comes to the total weight each track is carrying by themselves. Whilst it works enough to push the album thematically and musically; I did hope for much stronger individual tracks to really elevate the album as a whole.

        [–]Kranjcar19 30 points31 points  (1 child)

        All for trying something new and what not, but just a bit boring...

        [–]tsmfan123 104 points105 points  (0 children)

        Meh

        [–]pisspoordecisions 48 points49 points  (3 children)

        This album is straight sex music

        [–]AnduwinHS 37 points38 points  (1 child)

        Some of my favourite lyrics in any Arctic monkeys songs even after just 3 listens, the stand out lines to me are

        "It took the light forever to get to your eyes"

        "I just wanted to be one of those ghosts you thought you could forget"

        "Smile as if you've got a straw in something tropical"

        "Back down to earth with a lounge singer shimmer"

        "I'm so full of shite, I need to spend less time stood around in bars waffling on to strangers about martial arts and how much I respect them"

        "The dawn won't stop weighing a tonne, I've done something I shouldn't've done. But I never stopped loving you once"

        [–]LewisDKennedy 11 points12 points  (4 children)

        I think we can all agree that Four Out of Five is absolutely the best though, right?

        [–]mumforgotbread 22 points23 points  (1 child)

        I feel similar to how I did about EYCTE, there’s 3-5 tracks I think are good/great, and then I find the rest meh. Nothing awful, just a bit boring imo. ‘Golden Trunks’ and ‘She Looks Like Fun’ are possibly my least favourite Arctic Monkeys tracks though.

        It’s way too early on to say for certain, but at this point I would lean towards saying this is my least favourite of any of Alex Turner’s albums. I really do hope that opinion changes with more listens and some time.

        Glad to see a lot of people are enjoying it though :)

        [–]Blitzkreeg21 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        So far, I only really enjoy 4/5, The Ultracheese and the title track itself. I think the reason why I find the other songs difficult to enjoy is because of the structuring of the new songs. Most of the songs are really hard to actually sing along or hum to, and while that is certainly no metric for the quality or greatness of a certain piece of music, I think the lack of this specific quality in the new tracks makes the songs less memorable and enjoyable because you don't have the "chance" to "participate" in the emotion the songs are trying to reproduce.

        [–]flyingohighoan 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        As it turns out with the Arctic Monkeys, the unexpected is everything you have come to expect. Nearly five years after AM, a lusty guitar and chorus-driven album written in part to alleviate the hours-long driven commutes across town in frontman Alex Turner’s adopted home of Los Angeles, the Arctic Monkeys return with an album that is best enjoyed no longer in a car but on an Apollo mission circa 1970. Composed initially on the Lunar Surface, Turner’s home studio, Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino ambitiously exchanges stadium rock anthems and melodies for piano, high notes, and a fucking Wurlitzer. And it succeeds.

        Much has already been made about the album’s opening line, the beginning of a conversation Turner has with himself. “I just wanted to be one of The Strokes / Now look at the mess you made me make / Hitchhiking with a monogrammed suitcase / Miles away from any half useful imaginary highway.” The mysterious case motif alluded to here appears not only in American Sports as well, but in Turner’s guest bit on Mini Mansions’ Vertigo – a musical endeavor that clearly inspired a significant part of TBHC.  

        Considering that the album-opening aforementioned teenage dream to be at the forefront of mid-2000s indie rock came true in the most fantastic of ways with 2006 debut Whatever People Say I Am That’s What I’m Not, it’s interesting to note the band’s evolution since then. TBHC is undoubtedly Turner’s best vocal performance to date, and yet, it’s not devoid of the “mimic,” observant talk-sing that so defined their debut and the cameo on Vertigo. Unlike the first album though, that vocal style is accented by complex instrumental structures and layers of musical ideas. Apt as names like Bowie and Cohen may be when describing TBHC, Star Treatment also sees the lads getting as close to Pink Floyd as they’ve come yet. The spacey explosion that follows this tune’s abbreviated chorus about summoning the “martini police” is gorgeous.  

        Nearly six minutes after things kick off in a way no Arctic Monkeys album ever has, Turner appropriately asks you to “bear with me man” in One Point Perspective. You’ll see his name isolated a lot. Though it’s very much the band’s sixth LP, it is clearly a frontman-pioneered project, with songs like Batphone being composed almost exclusively by Turner. By the middle of One Point Perspective, it’s very apparent that this record is a new frontier for the band. And it’s also very apparent that that’s okay, because just when you thought there wasn’t enough room on the lunar module for a Stratocaster, one of the band’s most beautiful guitar solos emanates over the mystic moonlike keys.

        Guitar on TBHC is much more about quality than quantity. The band’s last album had loud and unmistakable guitar in every crevice, so much so that its solos were boring and felt forced. Not so this time around. One Point Perspective, Batphone, She Looks Like Fun, and The Ultracheese all have beautiful and unique guitar tones that bring flavor to tracks that were otherwise mostly excellent listens without them. Batphone and She Looks Like Fun, for example, have snarling guitar tones that are reminiscent of Wings and Abbey Road, respectively.  

        Turner's role as the absolute primary creator of this album is especially noticeable when hearing the fabulous and Last Shadow Puppets-esque Golden Trunks. The melody, vocals, guitar, and ending are downright stunning. Unlike many other songs on the album, this one shines from the very first listen. Alex Turner's likeness of their recording process at Parisian studio La Frette to that of Pet Sounds is very prevalent on The World's First Ever Monster Truck Front Flip. The song alludes to nineteenth century Kodak advertisement "You Press the Button, We Do the Rest" and sounds like The Beach Boys if they made a cryptic commentary on iCloud. Put simply, there's more than meets the eye with the seemingly uninspired vocals and keys that kick off the tune. 

        The transition from One Point Perspective to American Sports rivals the perfection that was This House Is a Circus into If You Were There, Beware on 2007’s Favourite Worst Nightmare. Both songs showcase a completely new and exciting vocal style from Turner. The transition, especially early on, also reminds listeners that if this album is to be understood, it is to be listened to all the way through in order. Few tracks on TBHC can successfully be played in isolation. 

        The one exception to this may be album highlight Four Out of Five, which promises to be a staple of the band's upcoming live tour. It's as if Turner -- who in making this complex album outright shunned the notion of pleasing a commercial audience, effectively flirting with marketing suicide -- decided to throw a bone to any listeners craving familiarity. That's not to say this takes away anything from the track. Lyricism alone is enough to enthrall audiences, much less the guitar riff, piano breakdown, and exciting drum bit. 

        Much as Four Out of Five does feel like a nugget for mass audiences to compensate for the mid-tempo beginning and end that require patience, it also feels like a nugget to other members of the band, who also get to delve into a bit of familiarity. One significant downside to the album is that it cages the agile beast that is drummer Matt Helders. It doesn't include bassist Nick O'Malley on some bass lines, and neither of their falsettos are particularly present -- at least not nearly to the extent that they were on the band's last album. Turner however, who is very clearly in his vocal prime, compensates well for this, namely on the wild and raw Batphone.

        Besides the lack of rock input from other band members, disappointments include She Looks Like Fun, which feels and sounds well below the capability of Britain's best rock band. One would expect dramatic instrumentals and song openings featuring outside input to be better executed with over 4 years of time at the group's disposal. The Ultracheese, which initially strikes you as very playable and heartfelt, plays into its own demise through self-criticism that reminds you, yes, this is rather used up and predictable and no, this song is not overly playable. In fact, sans the last three lines, this song expires rather quickly. 

        If you can think of this as an album in its own skin and not as an Arctic Monkeys album that followed up smash hit AM after half a decade of waiting, you'll tend to move past the lack of loud guitar and intense drumbeats rather immediately. It's a brilliant record that perhaps necessarily rids of love lyrics and screeching guitar that the band has had enough of. Likewise, fans may soon realize that they unknowingly have also had enough of that formula. Themes involving a physical place, technological advancement, and politics are quite refreshing to hear after years of exhausted romance and heartbreak. Do yourself a favor, though, and play this one in order, at night, and with an open mind to fully experience what it has to offer. Though they sell you on the easy flight, the moon is 240,000 miles away, and no one successfully got there without patience and appreciation for the vastness and endless possibility of space that Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino operates among. 

        4/5

        [–]eifjui 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Ugh....I mean...I'm about 1.5 listens through. 4/5 & the Ultracheese are fairly enjoyable, but I'm having similar issues I had with AM & EYCTE with this record. Plenty of filler, underutilized instrumentals, lyrics that are distractingly incoherent at times. Maybe it'll grow on me, we'll see.

        [–]SordidSwordDidSwore 18 points19 points  (5 children)

        So disappointed

        Also I feel bad for Matt because his parts are boring now. His extraordinary drumming talent is being wasted on non-innovative and slow songs.

        [–]DavidfCo1995 4 points5 points  (3 children)

        it sounds like they just gave him a snare and a kick drum.

        [–]mttasrvrei[🍰] 101 points102 points  (14 children)

        It's so so so good. After two listens I can only really confidently put humbug in it. Can't even began to fathom how people are calling it their worst album. Like tlsp turned up to 11.

        [–]Thadderful 107 points108 points  (9 children)

        Like tlsp turned up to 11.

        This is why I think criticisms are valid - it is TLSP turned up to 11, which is great in its own right but possibly not for an AM record.

        Yet to relisten however, am optimistic that it grows on me.

        [–]tallmotherfucker 12 points13 points  (4 children)

        No miles kane though. Apparently Tame Impala had a hand in this.

        I'm in love with this

        [–]shvffle 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        Where did you hear that?

        Edit: oh its apparently Cam Avery who plays bass when Tame Impala tours, not Kevin Parker.

        [–]ProfMax 12 points13 points  (2 children)

        tlsp turned up to 11 already exist, it's called the age of the understatement (song), TLSP is braggadocios and epic, this is not like that at all, it's much more mellow and subdued in my opinion.

        [–]mello26 26 points27 points  (0 children)

        This feels like they were going for a watered down David bowie sound. Lyrics were fine for the most part but the songs sounded so similar to one another. This is only after my first listen so I think it will grow in me over time. As for right now I'm not a fan of this album 3/10.

        [–]ChungusMcChunguson 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        Eh it’s not for me, but disappointed in this direction, although it was hard not to see it coming. If somebody told me this album was the last shadow puppets I wouldnt have questioned them. I have liked every single AM album up until this point.

        I genuinely believe Alex turner is one of the best lyricists of all time, but some of the lyrics are so terribly cringeworthy. Maybe it will grow on me at some point, I don’t mind Ultracheese, but I doubt it.

        [–]LoL-Front 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        It's pretty lame. I could listen to it 30 times and force my brain to like it somewhat but I don't think music should be endured until liked. I've liked their other stuff from the get-go.

        [–]howthee123 31 points32 points  (7 children)

        Whilst I like the overall sound, I truly miss the storytelling the original albums gave us and miss it dearly.

        Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino has that kinda, but after reading along with the songs almost all of them are nonsensical garbage.

        [–]BaguetteStix 80 points81 points  (5 children)

        It's the second coming of Jesus Christ

        [–]Biig_Ideas 46 points47 points  (1 child)

        Is that before or after his trip to the day spa?

        [–]StandingBulldog 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        Ask Mark.

        [–]NT2726 47 points48 points  (1 child)

        I’m a huge AM and this album isn’t good guys I’m sorry. Every song sounds the same. Fight me

        [–]HauntedFanatic 30 points31 points  (0 children)

        I absolutely love it. That’s all.

        [–]Seannyboy234 20 points21 points  (0 children)

        A musicians wet dream. The arrangements are great. The time changes are perfectly placed and surprising. I’m happy that it’s in a not pop direction and super serious.

        Now to listen again

        [–]penzinho77 22 points23 points  (1 child)

        Too mellow IMHO, this doesn't sound like Monkeys record. This should've been Alex's solo work.

        After three listens, boring and pretentious. And don't get me wrong, I was hyped as shit. I love my monkeys but this just doesn't click any buttons. You have to be in a special mood...unfortunately this won't make them biggest rock band in the world. Follow up to AM was their chance to take over the USA and launch themselves into tranquility moon base of rock superstars. It took them too many years and the produced this crooner mess.

        While we're on the subject...Alex is doing some heavy drugs or what? They look (and sound) like Macauly Caulkin during his best (worst) years.

        I wish this was a joke and that they would put on some clothes not obtained in salvation army and release a double album (hence hotel+casino) with cd2 sounding like an actual rock band. This is good for the hotel part, please bring on the casino.

        [–]cinematunes 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        I thought it was definitely an interesting career move because like you said, the crown was there for the taking. One article said even with their 5 year hiatus, no one’s really taken up the mantle of the biggest rock band in the world. The Black Keys more or less held that title with the one-two punch of Brothers and El Camino, but dropped the ball a bit on Turn Blue, which was 2014. But AM dropped the year before and killed everything. And the Black Keys have also been inactive since that last record four years ago.

        So more eyes than usual were on this band, and instead of making something expected, they dropped this. It’s a bold move either way. Probably won’t pay off in a commercial sense, but if the band is proud of their work I really can’t fault them for making it.

        My concern is more so - the people; critics and fans alike calling this an evolution.

        So, is there turning back? Or is pianos, synths, etc and chorus-less songs with very little structure a new chapter going forward? Can they go back to simple riffs + verse/chorus/verse/bridge/chorus?

        Can they make another traditional rock album or have they crossed over into another type of band entirely? That remains to be seen.

        I like individual parts of this album, but not the album as a whole. If this is what’s to come from them for the foreseeable future, I’m not sure I’m gonna be into it.

        [–]kdonnn 23 points24 points  (2 children)

        This album felt like a run on sentence. The entire thing sounded like lounge music, back ground music to an oceans 11 movie or 8th grade, hands on shoulders semi formal kinda stuff. I’m actually really disappointed. 😢 but I still love the boys regardless

        [–]TempusFugit- 47 points48 points  (4 children)

        Arctic Monkeys concept album? No Alex Turner concept album. I don't like it at all except 4/5. There is nothing catchy in this album. Nothing real Arctic Monkeys material in it. 5 years of waiting for this... Obv you'll tell me "Yea but AM always make something new every album". Yea right. But when you hear an AM album, you know it's an AM album. This is not. No catchy song except 4/5, no fast rythm song... Just... Nothing. Just Alex doing his thing... Terrible. Although huge thumbs up for Nick bassline...

        Disappointed so far. AM 2013 was such a nice album in the way it has an incredible balance between fast and slow songs... Just bring us FWN or WPSTWIN at some point... This is not what a lot of people want I'm sure

        [–]crabby154 19 points20 points  (7 children)

        Is everyone blind to why people dislike the album? It isn't because they want a Wpsiatwin 2.0. The change of direction would be fine but it's poorly executed. Alex isn't a great piano player and he's put piano at the forefront. He's a great storyteller but his lyrics have become a parody of himself. They're just nonsense. The songs have no hooks, weak melodies and are forgettable. You can have memorable songs on the piano.

        The arctic monkeys have 5 albums that were all different before this. SIAS and FWN weren't the same and people liked them both. This new album is a weak attempt at Bowie and it doesn't achieve.

        People say it's like a last shadow puppets album. Except the last shadow puppets albums are good and this isn't.

        The idea could've worked but the band didn't deliver.

        [–]CedarCabPark 51 points52 points  (4 children)

        From the leak crowd to the newcomers:

        You won't have an opinion for awhile. This is the epitome of a grower album

        [–]mirandaBBfan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Somehow this album manages to be both retro and futuristic at the same time. Damn. Alex really created an entire visceral world with this one. I felt like I saw a movie in my head. I haven't seen the album described as cinematic yet but I think that's a great adjective for it.

        [–]2018WorldCup 6 points7 points  (5 children)

        This Alex Turner second solo album is a grower

        [–]gomezish 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Star Treatment is such a fun song.

        [–]misterLC 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        I need to listen to it and dissect the lyrics more, but I do enjoy it. What’s funny is that right after finishing the album Bigger Boys and Stolen Sweethearts came on and the meaning to Star Treatment really hit me. It was also just weird to hear the extreme differences.

        7/10 at the moment. After more listens it’ll probably be at an 8. Then again we’re all biased here lol.

        [–]kerev123 32 points33 points  (0 children)

        C I R C L E J E R K

        [–]nananana_batmon 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        I cried listening to The Ultracheese is a sentence I never thought I'd say

        [–]iamsensi 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        Apparently I'm in the minority for loving AM, this is for sure a huge departure from that but I dig the sound. Has a sort of elton john vibe to it almost, for a summer album though not sure how it will do, this seems like something I wanna sit inside in the winter and be sad to

        [–]jdmgf5[🍰] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        Bro you have to be in space.

        [–]reyap 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Quite liking science fiction, and four out of five. Still listening through

        [–]hollaatyourgirl 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        /u/nikerafa can you compile the professional reviews in the description and sticky?

        [–]Twentyonecolddragons 5 points6 points  (4 children)

        Personally I felt it was definitely an Arctic Monkeys record. Maybe it was just me, but I got the same feeling listening through TBH+C that I did when I listened through AM, and Suck it and See, I'd even go as far as too say WPSIA, but that is just my opinion.

        [–]AiHangLo 5 points6 points  (2 children)

        I can't lie. I'm so dissapointed. 3 listens through and it does nothing for me.

        No I don't want cider drinking, fruit machine lyrics. Progressions fine, but he's talking over lounge music, I can't pretend I'm into that. 4/5 Is the best song, that's not a compliment.

        [–]anamericandude 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Don't like it, don't hate it, it just isn't what I wanted/expected. I think the album as a whole could have been much improved with 2-3 tracks with more of that classic AM sound, instead of pretty much all of the tracks sounding reasonable similar. I'm probably biased since I discovered them during their AM era, so to me that sound is the Arctic Monkeys

        [–]TheDamnBoyWonder 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        After a few listens and a few joints I really love this album, Alex went full David Bowie on us. I can see why some fans would be pissed off about this one given that there aren't any usual pumped up AM tunes. But come on if you don't want to do LSD in your luxury hotel room on the moon while listening to this something is wrong with you.

        [–]RogerEast 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        Absolutely love the first half of the album. Still going to take some getting into the second half.

        [–]cproud10 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I have to say that when I first played the album through on Friday I was kind of "meh" about it. I think I had the same initial reaction a lot of people had because it's so different.

        But I love the band, so I wasn't willing to just drop it. After 1-2 more times through, I had kind of come around on the idea that it might not ever become my favorite, but that it is certainly good.

        By the end of the weekend - I'm kind of obsessed with it and can't stop playing it haha.

        [–]Tiago28 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        It sounds more like an Alex Turner solo album than an Arctic Monkeys album. In my opinion he was inspired too much by The Last Shadow Puppets album "Everything You've Come to Expect". At least the lyrics are great as always!

        It is a good album but when compared to the other albums, in my opinion, this is the worst Arctic Monkeys album.

        I would say this album is half 4/5 and half 3/5 songs. Curiously, "Four out of Five" is almost a 5/5 to me but something is missing between the middle and ending of the song, I think they could use more the intro guitar/bass riff... So yeah there's not a single song that really stands out...

        To conclude, it is still a good album when compared to other musicians out there. The lyrics are great but this is the weakest Arctic Monkeys album in my opinion.

        [–]Yourownmusicmaker 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        I wanted to like it but I just can't, it's awful, and it isn't the Arctic Monkeys at all, they've forgotten who they were when they started.

        [–]wellTheyLikeit 19 points20 points  (3 children)

        EDIT: I think im gonna do a first impressions comment. Ill be writing my thoughts as I'm listening to the songs, stream of consciousness.

        Jesus christ i love star treatment. Im halfway through my first listen of that song. That second maybe i was too wild in the 70s. Wasn't sure about how alex was singing at first but the song gets going so good.

        Hell yeah that solo in One Point Perspective. "Bear with me man I've lost my train of thought" both times followed by long instumentals before....oh shit that was a seamless transition, guess we're listening to american sports now. Understanding the Bowie comparisons now "Just in time for my weekly conversations with...God"

        Not sure how i feel about the title track. Like the spooky mysterious instrumentals. Kind of awkward delivery on the line TBHC. Probably will get better with more listens.

        Intro to golden trunks = Mmm good Idk what the worry about guitar was. It's not the focus, but the guitar that's there is great and there's actually quite a lot.

        Four Out of Five - the only I've only heard before. "Take it easy for a little while" Yeah i fuck with this track. Also this album is cohesive as fuck. I'd heard people say it feels like a 40 minutes song, which i disagree with, but damn this album fits together so well so far.

        Yeah so this definitely not what I thought The World's First Ever Monster Truck Front Flip was gonna sound like. That actually was a really smooth delivery hell yeah

        Science Fiction - eh not sure again on this again. That weird alien ray gunish noise is cool the spooky piano is good. It's gonna take another listen. Probably my least favorite track so far, still prettay, prettayy, prettay pretty good "End up way to clever for its own good" I feel like some snarky reviewer is going to use that line to describe the album in some room. Similar how ever music reviewer writes "Is this it?" in any review to new Julian Casablancas music.

        I take it back She Looks Like Fun has overtaken Science Fiction, (wait hold on this solo is pretty nice). Still good though.

        Oh shit Batphone already, second to last track fuck that was fast. The guitar (keyboard?) is pretty dope in this too.

        Yep this sounds like an album closer, and also really good. "Cause its the Ultracheese" what does that even mean? I love this. This guitar is great. I love it.

        Final thoughts - Well I thought it was really good. I was kinda worried about what I had preordered. I wasn't sure what I was gonna get. The reviews sounded really promising, but what people were saying on this sub didn't sound like what I was going to get. A samey crooney jazzy (? I don't know why people were mentioning jazz) album didn't sound fun. What I got was a cohesive unique album with some bomb ass Alex vocals actually a lot of and good guitar parts, the piano was great (I wasn't worried about that in the first place though) lyrics were great, I just really liked it. People who were expecting "View from the Afternoon" or Crying Lightning Alex will definitely probably ("definitely probably" that's some good writing) not like this album. I think Melon will hate this album.

        [–]howthee123 22 points23 points  (5 children)

        As a Sheffield lad, this just isn’t what the Monkeys are to me.

        Don’t get me wrong, the albums really enjoyable, but it just doesn’t feel right

        [–]JangoAllTheWay 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        Shite

        [–]Omoshiroibonerkun 25 points26 points  (0 children)

        THIS IS A ELEVATOR SOUNDTRACK FOR AN OLDFASHIONED HOTEL ON THE FREAKING MOON AND I LOVE IT