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[–]Thebrownster71 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Having fun and trying to use what you learn in class. Don’t over complicate it.

[–]Professor_Whitebelt 32 points33 points  (11 children)

Surviving. I also just posted this is another thread for a guy who's also starting BJJ, and I believe in recycling.

BJJ is a bit of a rabbit hole, and you can choose how far down it you want to go.

For foundational instructionals, I recommend you watch;

Caio Terra - Modern Jiu Jitsu

Damian Maia - Science of Jiu Jitsu (1 & 2)

Saulo Ribeiro - Jiu Jitsu Revolution (1 & 2) + Freestyle Revolution

That'll give you a great foundation for Closed Guard, Half Guard, and attacking/escaping the mounts (Side Mount, Knee on Belly, Mount, Back Mount).

By the time you finish those, you can decide which rabbit hole you want to go down. A lot of submissions are connected to one degree or another, but usually you will find a technique that really resonates with you that you can build your game around.

You can build your game around submissions.

Like chokes (RNC, FRNC, Guillotine a, Guillotine e, Guillotine L, Guillotine x, Papercutters, arm triangles (such as Darces, Peruvian Neckties (aka darce 2.0) Anacondas, Kata Gatames, Ezekials). And then there's the chokes available with the gi (Loop Choke, Noose Choke, etc)

Or you can build your game around arm locks (Kimuras, Americanas, Baratoplatas, Omoplatas, Reverse Omoplatas, Armbars, Straight Armlocks, Wristlocks, Bicep Slicers, etc).

Or you can build your game around leglocks (Straight Ankle Locks, Toe Holds, Heelhooks, Kneebars, Calf Slicers, etc).

Or you can build your game around a particular guard & submisson, or a particular guard & sweep. (Open, Spider, Lasso, DLX (Double Leg X), SLX (Single Leg X), Butterfly, Koala, Shin to Shin, Sitting, DLR (De La Riva), Deep DLR, RDLR (Reverse De La Riva), Closed, Rubber, Williams, Inverted Williams, Half, Deep Half, Tornado, Coyote, Quarter, etc).

Or you can build your gameplan around getting to top and passing in a variety of ways (Perimeter Pass, Toreando, X-Pass, Double Overs, Double Unders, Over/Under, Kneeslice, Folding, Leg Drag, etc).

And then there's takedowns & clinches! And grips! Bleaaaargh.

You can choose one thing and be really, really good at it. You can choose a few things and be really good at them. You can choose a lot of things and be pretty good at them. You can combine any of the above in any way you want. Think of it as the ultimate video game!

Have fun and good luck!

[–]ThrowAwayJacket92 1 point2 points  (4 children)

At my gym white belts only roll with other white belts and if you are new you only roll with other new white belts at that. In this situation do you also recommend just focusing on survival?

It’s also my first month and at this school all the white belts are kinda spastic and I want to start getting technical but I don’t know what I’m doing and end up being spastic myself and not getting much out of the roll portion of the class. Am feeling pretty frustrated myself :/

[–]Professor_Whitebelt 5 points6 points  (3 children)

It's really hard to submit a person that can sense what you're trying to attack and knows how to defend it. Stalemates (in the submission sense) become increasingly common.

I would start by observing what specifically you have trouble with during the roll. Are you getting passed too quickly? Maybe you need to work on your guard retention (or having a guard in the first place). Do you keep getting submitted by a particular technique? Watch your neck (keep your chin tucked), and keep your elbows tight to your ribs - that won't save you forever, but it'll buy you a little time.

Do you know how to escape the mounts? This could be a major issue - if you don't know how to escape/re-guard, then you just get stuck on bottom getting smashed and tired because you're blowing your energy on inefficient movements with zero payoff (and it's demoralizing).

It's hard to give you more specific advice without knowing what your gameplan is and how it keeps getting #rekd.

There's also quite a distance between knowing the technique and implementing the technique, which is why you need to keep going to class and then reflect on your smashings. You cannot progress without going to class regularly.

Usually learning every technique goes something like;

Step 1) You don't even remember to try and use the technique.

Step 2) After a few post-roll reflections, you finally remember the technique exists mid-roll, but you miss your window of opportunity to try it.

Step 3) After a few missed windows of opportunity, you finally remember the technique in time to try it, but you do it poorly and feel like an idiot because it doesn't work and you usually end up in a worse position for having attempted it.

Step 4) After a few (or many) failed attempts on your increasing savvy regularly rolling partners, you finally pull your technique off on a newer guy that doesn't know it's coming and doesn't defend it in time.

Step 5) You start having the confidence and skill to use the technique on higher belts who know how to defend and counter it, and it really becomes a battle of skill (if you know how to counter his defenses, maintain control, and/or transition to another advantageous position/submission - you're doing well. If your opponent knows how to unravel the submission or your control so that they can improve their position at your expense while avoiding the submission - they're doing well).

Then you've entered the rabbit hole, baybeee.

[–]ThrowAwayJacket92 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I like your breakdown, thanks for the through response! I guess my current problem is not being able to get out of bad positions so I should focus on that. Like if someone gets Mount I pretty much stay there till the end of the roll..

[–]seth7garcia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe start mounted sometimes. Let your partner know you want to work on escaping. Some people get upset if you give them the better position starting out, egos.

[–]Professor_Whitebelt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Caio Terra has some nice escapes from mount in Modern Jiu Jitsu - same goes for Saulo Ribeiro in Jiu Jitsu Revolution.

After you've got those down, I'd recommend checking out "The Sit Up Guard" as a great follow-up for escaping mounts.

[–]KeemaKing 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Berimbolo is not a guard

[–]Mellor88 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That's correct. But it also seems a bit pedantic and useless pointing that out given the context of the above

[–]KeemaKing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Sorry

[–]Professor_Whitebelt 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah, I think you're right. How would you classify it? It's in kind of a weird inversion/sweep area.

[–]KeemaKing 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It’s a move. Like a sweep. A sweep that ends up in back or side mount top

[–]Professor_Whitebelt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough - I took it out of my guard list. Thanks for the feedback!

[–]CanhotoBranco 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Don’t be the guy who is so scared of getting tapped that you never try anything and all you do is defend or stall.

[–]g-l-h-f 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Learn the standard defensive postures for each bad position.

[–]EffingMadAlltheTime 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Train as much as possible and focus on surving and escaping from positions. As you get better you’ll start understanding nuances of the various basic positions from which you can flow. I think the biggest key is just training as much as possible and not getting your ego in the way. There will always be that flutter when a guy about your size and about your experience level shows up on the mat. Focus should be the same. Don’t spazz.

The biggest thing is training as much as your body and time will allow.

[–]MWWarnerVA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Surviving and removing all the muscle from your technique. Move slowly, be analytical, and above all be patient with yourself.

[–]helpmericksantorum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would recommend familiarizing yourself with grips, escapes from side control, mount; how to turtle up well, and some basic sweeps (scissor, flower, hip bump)

[–]purchell53 2 points3 points  (2 children)

You signed a 1 yr agreement? Does anyone else find this odd?

Escapes. Lern how to stay safe and escape.

Learn how to consolidate the top position

[–]AsianHouseShrew 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You signed a 1 yr agreement? Does anyone else find this odd?

I did same..... and paid upfront (to get a better deal). Makes me committed!

[–]posthuman01Tampa Jiu Jitsu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did a 9 month contract where I pay month to month now that 9 months has come and gone for a while now lol.

[–]Belatorius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Best advice I got was to focus on defense and sweeps. Seems to work so far

[–]graydonatvailPurple Belt II:snoo_putback: 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Survival first. How do you stop the submission from being setup, how to stop the finish. This will teach you more about submissions than trying them yourself. Next, escapes. Then sweeps. Then guard passing.

[–]realcoray 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pick one thing after each class to work on, study go back to class and repeat.

[–]lanacapone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Defense, staying safe and having fun. If you must spare, target spare upper belts who are less likely to accidentally crank something. For the first first 3 weeks of stepping on the mats, I was trained to do nothing but shrimp....for 3 weeks. I understand that could be considered extreme in today’s jiu-jitsu world, but it has paid off in spades!

[–]billjackson0987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Grips and grip breaks

[–]dunDunDUNNNInvisible Belt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Get a journal and take notes. When you drill the techniques taught in class, focus on doing them slowly, going step by step, and executing them as perfectly as you can. When you spar positionally at the end of those classes, try to use the techniques you just learned since the movements should be fresh in your mind.

Don't be afraid to fail. You are going to get tapped constantly. When you do, just try to learn something or identify what you did wrong. Try not to make the same mistake again, but you inevitably will. Just taking the time to analyze what actually happened and learning from it is important.

Carefully moderate your definition of success. One week my entire goal was to not get triangled, since I'd been caught a number of times the week before. I got triangled once that week, but that was my professor who specializes in triangles (tall ass mother fucker). So for you, success might mean maintaining your closed guard for one round without getting passed, or maintaining side control on an opponent for one round, or not getting submitted for one round, or escaping a certain position like mount. The point is, make your goals specific, challenging, but not unrealistic. You are not going to armbar that 4 stripe blue belt that ezekiel choked the shit out of you last week, but it might be a realistic goal to spar with him again and survive. Just survive.

Finally, just have fun, make friends, and learn something new every day.

[–]rubic-edWhite Belt III 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm training for a year now and I can tell that my focus tend to shift once in a while, just don't overcomplicate it at the white belt level. At the moment all I do is listen to my instructor and training partners and mostly focus on defence and how to apply pressure in certain situations (passing the guard).

[–]krav_kida 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a fellow white belt who started recently and rolls primarily with blue belts... Focus on survival. Don't hunt for submissions until you can survive.

[–]Battle__gear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Breathing, defending, learning. Not in any particular order.

[–]Majishin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This game is not about the number of techniques you know, but how well you know your techniques. At first, it's hard to know what to know... so I get your question.

Start a journal, try to remember all the details from class, and write them down, draw pictures, look at youtube for the same technique. Internalize. Get more details. Internalize. Black belts are doing the same technique that you are, but they have studied every detail.

Focus on a smaller number of techniques in the highest detail you can manage. What techniques? Too many to list, so just follow the flow of your classes, but do some research outside of class. But generally for lower belts: defense, position, submission - in that order.

You should be generally be focusing on defense for six months to a year or so, then positional control and guard passing for a year or so, then an abundance of submissions, then the whole picture in your unique way.

This information will come at you fast, and not in this order, so it's up to you to focus on where you are weak. The most important thing is to let go of your EGO. Everything gets better after that.

But let's be clear, the absolute bottom line best advice you will ever get is: SHOW UP. And then keep showing up.

[edited because words are hard]

[–]bozo78 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • Familiarising yourself with the basic positions and 1-2 escapes from each.

  • Familiarising yourself with basic-basic sweeps and guard passes.

  • Doing this to the point of not having to think about what goes where.

  • Writing stuff down.

  • Being consistent, week in, week out


[–]putt_puttesen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go to class, work what is being taught, hit open mat. Consistency is king!

[–]MaslerB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Focus on positioning, defense and survival. And remember "Position over Submission"

[–]i-wear-tapout-shirts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Focus on showing up for the entire year.

[–]hornypineapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Getting out of shitty positions and having fun.

[–]_JantaFancy Stuff -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Basics of guard pull, basics of open guard and DLR and some berimbolo variations