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Posted byMeow 🐈🐈Meow 🐱🐱 Meow Meow🍺🐈🐱Meow A+!2 years ago
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Hi all,

This post is intended to be a one stop aggregate of content related to the CCNA R&S, new users are encouraged to look through this post before asking these common post topics. Because I'm lazy I'll be copy and pasting relevant sections from other posts as needed :)

Can I use older versions of the study material?

No, at best you'll get basic information but you'll be missing topics, reading about topics you don't need to, and could generally not learn a topic well enough. It isn't worth trying to save money since failing the exam is much more expensive than some new books.

Saying that some video courses are still worth while, CBT nuggets for example has plenty of CCNA related series such as their CCNA packet capture course that is still good info though out of date.


Discount Exams

You can occasionally save some $$$ by buying a discount voucher, a discount voucher is a voucher that is expiring sooner than a ordinary voucher, the less time left the more it is discounted. For example a CCNA voucher with 3 days left might get 50% off.

I have used these sites before and they work well.

www.itexamvouchers.com or www.getcertified4less.com

The Exam Change

CCNA 2.0 is being retired on the following dates:

100-101 ICND1 Last day to test August 20, 2016

200-101 ICND2 Last day to test September 24, 2016

200-120 CCNA Last day to test August 20, 2016

A common misconception is that ICND1 is a prerequisite for the CCNA, it is not. Rather the ICND1 earns the CCENT certification and the CCENT is the prerequisite for the CCNA. This distinction means that you can write the 3.0 ICND2 exam even if you have passed the ICND1 2.0 exam.

Exam topics

100-105 - ICND1 3.0

ICND1 Exam topics

Here is a summary of the changes in the new version:

Removed:

  • RIP is now the sole routing protocol in this exam.

  • IPv6 Dual Stack was removed in favour of transition techologies

  • CEF has been removed from the exam.

Added:

  • High level knowledge of Firewalls, Access Points, and Wireless Controllers

  • Awareness of Collapsed Core architecture

  • Configure and verify IPv6 SLAAC

  • IPv6 Anycast addresses

  • Knowledge of LLDP

  • Troubleshooting DNS and DHCP related connectivity issues

  • Understanding Syslog

  • Device management


200-105 - ICND2 3.0

ICND2 Exam topics

Removed:

  • Frame-Relay (HOORAY!)
  • VRRP and GLBP (BOO!)

Added:

  • Knowledge of IWAN
  • Basic eBGP
  • VPNs: DMVPN, Site to Site, Client VPNs
  • Understanding the Cloud
  • Understanding SDN
  • Using APIC-EM's Path Trace application
  • QoS

200-125 - CCNAX 3.0

Composite 3.0 Exam topics

All in all some pretty fair additions and only a couple questionable removals.

Should you take the composite exam?

The short answer is....no, probably not.

Generally speaking the composite is only for the experienced network professionals who are used to certification exams. It is really meant for convenient switching to the R&S track from say Juniper. Why not take it? It's just considered to be a much more difficult exam because:

It doubles the number of topics you can be tested on, this makes it so you must have mastered everything in the CCNA since it is fair game. This also makes repeat attempts harder since the question pool is large enough that if you do badly on say IP Services, you might instead get a security focus the next time. You have a smaller margin of error: with ICND1 and 2 you can get say...10 questions wrong to pass with the minimum score so you can get 20 questions wrong and still be a CCNA. With the composite you can only get 10 wrong before failing

There is less padding questions, icnd1 may also you 10 subnetting questions but the composite may just ask a couple and move on the next topic. This makes things harder since your more likely to hit a hard question rather than get a few easier ones.

Cisco assumes your a network professional so they may hit harder than with the other exams. Based on my own observations from watching this sub and talking to people, I would say a junior has about a 90% fail rate for the composite and it typically takes them about 3 tries to pass it. Incidentally they also tend to be bitter with Cisco after paying for so many failed exams. Long story short, it isn't worth it, I should also point out that you get the same CCNA no matter what path you take. The only difference is that with the two exam method you get the CCENT as well, which means you can get up to two kitty gifs!

Reading List

Books by Odom and Lammle remain our recommendations for this CCNA version, you should read both to get both perspectives on topics. Generally Odom is considered to be more dry and technical and Lammle is more readable and approachable.

Home Lab

There are two main options for a home lab - physical and virtual. You can also mix and match as needed.

Because of the new version it is recommended to try to use IOS 15 in all your physical gear so you can utilize the modern features that IOS brings to the table. The router models don't matter all that much since features at the CCNA and CCNP level are mostly the same, you also don't need to worry about serial modules nearly as much because serial is a very small topic now.

Model numbers matter with switches though, you should aim to get 3 or 4 Cisco 3560 switches so your lab will last you well past your CCNA R&S studies, though you can pick up a some L2 Cisco 2960 switches if need be.

For virtual you have 3 main options

  • Packet Tracer - a mostly functional emulation tool that meets most of the CCNA requirements, it requires very little resources or technical knowledge but only supports just enough IOS features for you to pass the CCNA.

PT 7.0 is out now and can be gotten for free from Cisco.

  • GNS3 - a functional solution that runs real IOS images, the downside is you need to get your hand on IOS images. It also doesn't have native support for most L2 features.

Here is a blog post I wrote about setting it up end to end:

Mastering GNS3

  • VIRL - this is the most resource heavy option but its benefit is that Cisco provides IOS images to you.

Here is the post I did about VIRL:

Mastering VIRL

Exam Tips

Remember there is no back button so always read the question until you fully understand what it is asking you and you know what technology it is testing you on before answering.

If you can't think of an answer within a minute consider picking the best answer and moving on. You are unlikely to correctly figure out the question after thinking about it for another minute and will likely talk yourself into a wrong answer. You don't have a ton of time in the exam!

For people with a bit more IT experience, remember the context and level of the exam. There are many solutions to problems in the real world and at the end of the day the CCNA doesn't get too deep into topics. Keep the exam topics in mind when answering a question...for example if Cisco asks what device would run BGP? Then the answer would be a router even though most devices can support BGP these days from hosts to servers to firewalls etc. The reason why is the CCNA v3.0 only teaches about basic eBGP on a router so Cisco isn't going to expect you to know that Windows Server can do BGP.

The Best Answer

People also have a lot of issues getting used to the concept of the best answer. Like the BGP scenario above you have to keep the context of the question in mind, a router can indeed use a switch module to act like a switch and a L3 switch can act like a router etc but if they ask what device is best for switching then it will be a switch.

The Cisco Answer

The "Cisco Answer" is something that keeps popping up over and over, and in my opinion is drastically overblown and misunderstood in most cases. Basically it is the claim that Cisco wants you to answer the question their way as opposed to the industry correct answer. Generally this seems to be feed from the pitfalls I mentioned above:

An example of an old Cisco answer was back when other vendors first started supporting CDP and if you were asked if CDP only ran on Cisco you had to decide if Cisco was expecting you to know that polycom phones could do CDP. But generally those types of questions are gone in the R&S track at least (I'm told the wireless track needs more time in the oven)

The other place it comes from is when you are multi vendor and/or have a higher knowledge/experience level then the exam your writing. A simple example might be if they asked you how many link state routing protocols are supported by Cisco, a CCNA will probably say 1, whereas a more advanced candidate may answer 2. But considering CCNA doesn't mention IS-IS then 1 would be the CCNA correct answer. The trick is you have to keep your exam level in mind as your writing it.

Finally there is the obvious actual Cisco answer where if they asked you what OSPF's Administrative Distances is? Now on Cisco it is 110/110/110, on Juniper it is 10/150, and on HPE it is 10/150/150. So in this case they are looking for the Cisco right answer but that only really can affect you if you are multi-vendor.

Question Marks and Tab

Sim's generally have support for the tab and ? but it can be limited if Cisco decides to remove them to make sure you know how to do a task or if they simply just don't fully implement them since the sim is just a flash animation they have to program. It is also worth noting that even if Cisco does give you full functionality, you would still need to know the full commands since Cisco can just straight up ask you syntax questions.

Practice Tests

The Boson practice tests are highly regarded and tend to be of similar difficulty or more difficult than the actual exam.

New topic posts

I'll try to keep this updated as they pop up but here is the current posts that are cover the new topics

What is Metro Ethernet

What is MPLS as a WAN Service

What is BGP?

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Posted byMeow 🐈🐈Meow 🐱🐱 Meow Meow🍺🐈🐱Meow A+!2 years ago
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Hi all,

With the exam cutoff looming there have been a ton of questions lately about if people should take the composite exam. The short answer is....no, probably not.

Generally speaking the composite is only for the experienced network professionals who are used to certification exams. It is really meant for convenient switching to the R&S track from say Juniper.

Why not take it? It's just considered to be a much more difficult exam because:

  • It doubles the number of topics you can be tested on, this makes it so you must have mastered everything in the CCNA since it is fair game. This also makes repeat attempts harder since the question pool is large enough that if you do badly on say IP Services, you might instead get a security focus the next time.

  • You have a smaller margin of error: with ICND1 and 2 you can get say...10 questions wrong to pass with the minimum score so you can get 20 questions wrong and still be a CCNA. With the composite you can only get 10 wrong before failing

  • There is less padding questions, icnd1 may also you 10 subnetting questions but the composite may just ask a couple and move on the next topic. This makes things harder since your more likely to hit a hard question rather than get a few easier ones.

  • Cisco assumes your a network professional so they may hit harder than with the other exams.

Based on my own observations from watching this sub and talking to people, I would say a junior has about a 90% fail rate for the composite and it typically takes them about 3 tries to pass it. Incidentally they also tend to be bitter with Cisco after paying for so many failed exams. Long story short, it isn't worth it, I should also point out that you get the same CCNA no matter what path you take. The only difference is that with the two exam method you get the CCENT as well, which means you can get up to two kitty gifs!

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Posted byCCNA R&S; MCP; Sec+8 hours ago

First time taking the test again since 2013. Let my CCNA expire because I was so wrapped up in other technologies I was learning after graduating college.

Used OCG only for this exam, along with packet tracer and just overall experience.

Aiming for CCNP this time so my journey officially begins!

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Super pumped right now. Honestly before I answered the last question I thought I bombed it and was trying to take mental notes for what I need to review.

Ended up getting 9XX/832 :)

Edit: What should be my next steps? When should I plan on taking the ICND 2? Was sort of thinking the earlier the better since the foundational information will be in my head?

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Does STP take into consideration Port Aggregation when deciding blocking or forwarding ports? it's my understanding that once the ports are combined the switch treats that channel it like a single port. after that happens is STP (or RSTP for that matter) able to assign a different cost to that port in its decision making? say for instance, a 100m port has a value (cost) of 19. will it become lower is there are two ports bound into a single channel?

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I have my net+, Sec+, and a few other certs. Im studying for ICND1 and taking boson practice exams and im scoring mid 600's but I swear these questions are sooooo much more detailed. I feel overwhelmed with material. Im not sure when to schedule and take as I truly dont know If ill ever be ready at this pace.

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So Im scheduled for Tuesday to take the test. I've been reading the Odom book, and I'm taking a course taught by a double CCIE. I felt confident up to this point but now that im scheduled I feel unprepared. Anything I should know before taking the test. Thank you.

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I was reading over my 101 Labs For The Cisco CCNA Exam book and came across a comment from the author claiming that Cisco will sometimes insert "test questions into the exam that are not marked, so don't sweat it too much if something out of the ordinary appears."

It just sounds interesting. I know we can't talk about specifics, but I'm curious if anyone here has come across an unexpected exam question that they think might have fallen into unmarked territory. Also, why would Cisco do this?

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I heard alot of good things about boson practice exams but i'd like to know if there any other cheaper practice exams that also helps similar to boson?

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Been waiting to get vouchers for the exam for months and now it's finally here and frantically making sure i have covered all the topics , buying the Boson practice exams later for the icing on the cake.

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Is there a limitation on sending DHCPDISCOVER from a dhcp client? Or is there an option to set a timeout for that?

Is a dhcp client sending DHCPDISCOVER in each second where there is no Dhcp server available compliant?

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Other than IPV6, my biggest struggle with studying is standard/extended ACLs. I understand the concept of them, but labbing through the CLI is confusing.

I'm pretty confident in taking this test next month but, was wondering if those who passed can give any input without breaking NDA

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Generally what do you guys/girls think are the best practice tests for Net+, Sec+, CCNA, and CCNP respectively?

P.S.- Feel free to add any other cert's best practice exam.

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Hey guys,

This is probably the kind of post you get everyday but I had to ask for my benefit. I read the post at the top saying to avoid getting old materials, but as a broke college student in Canada, $400 USD is quite a steep price for the self-study materials on Cisco's study materials. Do you guys have any better (cheaper) recommendations? I'll make the investment if I have to but some insider tips would be appreciated.

Thanks a lot in advance!

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hey guys,

I have scheduled my CCNA exam for next month and I was wondering if during the exam we have access to features like '?' and 'TAB - auto-complete'

thanks

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Was totally expecting to fail. A handful of questions were super tough. They really hammered in on the last sections of the Odom book. I used Odom, Lammle and Neil Anderson resources.

So glad it’s over. Looking at the ccnp next but I’m going to take it slow. Cloud and automation are more intriguing in the short term and I have my vcp in December.

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Felt like I was taking the exam from 1992! Mostly serial connection questions and nothing on the topics I studied hardest on/struggled with. Maybe I have been reading the icnd2 book by mistake? For course matter directly related to technology, I found the test to be extremely dated. Don’t get me wrong........ still gonna put it on my resume!

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Posted byNet+, CCNA R&S1 day ago

This test was a beast! Just wanted to say thanks to this subreddit. Also, I have two more ccna certs to take, the CCDA and CCNA - Sec. What you do think will be the easiest to follow up with?

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Greetings redditors!

I recently enrolled in a ccna course though my community college district, for FREE! The only thing is that it takes 14 months to complete! I have no experience in IT other than receiving a certificate as a fiber optic technician (not IT)

My question, is 14 months too long in your opinion? The class is only 2 days a week for 5 hrs. From what I heard, this class has a stellar lab. I would consider self study but I couldn't pass up the opportunity for a free course.

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Posted byA+, CCENT1 day ago

Hey everyone, as the title says I'm taking the ICND-2 exam this weekend. I would like any last minute advise before I take the exam. Any advice would help, I've read the odom book and I'm using the boson exams. I'm confident of myself going in. Thank you for any advice in advance.

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for example:

Core Switch on vlan 99: interface 10.1.1.2 255.255.255.0

Router interface 0/0 connected to Core vlan 99: ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0

Router interface 0/1 : ip address 10.2.2.1 255.255.255.0

ping works from core switch to 10.1.1.1 but fails to ping 10.2.2.1 without using command

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.1.1 on Core switch

i have used ip default gateway on L3 switch 10.1.1.1 as its default gateway

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Just getting started to begin the CCNA journey,

Quick question;

Any advice on lab preparations? Do I NEED to buy hardware? Or can I get by with simulators? Any recommended simulators?

Thank you for your time and comments.

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Pretty simple. I have the latest Packet Tracer version at home and when I go to check the results, I cannot see what steps I have completed. It just says I haven't completed the problem with no feedback at all.

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Hi all,

Having a bit of a nightmare with GNS3. Recently moved to using the VM on my ESXI host so I have more juice. Everything works except the Cloud component.

It will not bridge to the physical network.

I can ping the GNS3 VM and connect to it so doesn’t appear network is the issue. Additionally even if I connect a vm to the Port group the cloud is bridging two that can’t access it. It just doesn’t seem to connect outside of GNS3.

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

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Just curious as to how recertification works. Does it mean that if you want to keep being certified you have to take the test again? Does that go for all including CCNP and CCIE?

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