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[–]Thewildkin -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Does no one else find this disgusting and fucked up? They caged a wild animal and are now using it to put on a show. A show where the challenge it and yell and scream.

[–]Ranger1221 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

This is the better title

[–]deathakissaway[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I agree. But different subs I feel you can pun a little more than others. r/gifs is a bit more literal. You can have a post taken down there if you get too puny.

[–]Comeonjeffrey0193 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really shows you how weak we are compared to the rest of the animal kingdom

[–]MeTwo222 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

With that mechanical advantage, my poodle could hold off more people. Kinda misleading to kids who think the animal is actually that strong.

[–]bumjiggy -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

the crosspost is strong

[–]magnanimous14 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I don't know how I feel about this because I kinda feel bad about exotic animal captivity in general. Anyone else?

[–]chasingpackets 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I mean that’s cool and all but the lion has “locked off” the rope by creating that angle. Same concept used when repelling.

[–]tralphaz43 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Does this make them "pussies" sorry

[–]12xu12xu -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

This is coolest thing I ever saw on Reddit and I was once subscribed to r/watchpeopledie

[–]12xu12xu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Never mind I re subscribed

[–]sandwidman -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Is it only me rhat tink that tiger i looking fack or dead

[–]HybridAlien -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Dude I drink protein shakes so I'm strong \s bunch of gym meatheads

[–]ElectricSparx3 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Good thing that lion knows physics and those humans don't!

[–]Radius50 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

What a bunch of soy boys. I could do this easy. I've had 2 protein shakes today. What did that lion have? NOT 2 SHAKES

Getting downvoted for a clearly goofy comment. Nice

[–]Ga_spice -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

New ways to abuse animals, who the fuck thought of this?

[–]sour_creme 3 points4 points  (5 children)

there's a video of a tug of war where somebody's arm gets ripped off.

there's another video of a tiger ripping somebody's arm off at a zoo.

which one do you want me to post?

[–]cxtguitar -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Hey r/squaredcircle isn’t that Bray Wyatt and Ricochet?

[–]yewnorks -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And that's just a female lion...

[–]shavedmyballs4this 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Can’t believe those guys are losing to that pussy

[–]guhcampos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a very cool and entertain way to improve the captive life of the lions. A safe way for people to play with them, and learn something about these majestic cats, all in one shot.

While some animals fare better in captivity than others, I think it's important for kids to get to see real wild animals, so they learn to love them and respect them. Otherwise animals become just characters in some movie.

[–]32r143 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn't the friction at the fence give the lion an advantage

[–]beerbuddi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cause the guys with big biceps got big leg muscles. Feeeeerrrr fuckin sure

[–]optinpar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's incredible! As in I don't believe it.

[–]mltronic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Okay but how come humans are absolutely weakest mammals? Even compared with other animals we would not go far in nature without technology.

Impressive strength from the lioness. Wonder how strong was that grip?

[–]sgtmattkind -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Lol obese/fat chick loving not having to do any physical labor

[–]argybargy3j -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Where did all these fat lesbians come from?

[–]RedGSXR 13 points14 points  (7 children)

What incredible strength. Majestic beast

[–]Retrosmith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Came to see how many Fun People felt the need to point out the angle in the rope.

Too damned many.

[–]klipyo -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Can't this be potentially harmful to their teeth in some way?

[–]wolfygirl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Enrichment for all! Seriously wish our zoo would do this with various critters!🐅🐆🐻🐘🐺🐒

[–]durgertime 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You'd think Ricochet would've been an equal match, considering he's Prince Puma.

[–]Vexeris 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I mean.. have you tried getting a kitten to let go of something in its mouth? This was expected tbh.

[–]duehvdke 5 points6 points  (2 children)

This is how my dog, a 100lb lab, can pull me, a 200lb human in reasonably smooth clothes on a smooth floor, pretty easily. It's the 4 legs.

[–]MadeUpFax 486 points487 points  (47 children)

My guess is that the 90° bend in the rope is what's allowing the lion to hold ground. 4 dudes should be able to drag a lion even if she is resisting.

[–]beeteeoh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes - the friction around the edge of that tube is massive. Probably eliminates the effect of about 2 of those guys.

[–]future_potato -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't see how that benefited the lion any more than it did the men. Can you explain?

[–]Kingfang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also the claws in the ground and low center of gravity.

[–]Moonshine_Hillbilly 40 points41 points  (7 children)

I agree. For everyone that doesn't, notice the fact that the lion isn't gaining ground either. Yeah, the oblique bend in the rope is playing a huge part in this contest going nowhere.

[–]tertle -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Except the lion isn't even pulling; doesn't budge when the humans let go.

-edit - just noticed hidden comment said same thing

[–]sandscript 261 points262 points  (34 children)

Also, humans are probably at a huge disadvantage in tug of war against four leggers. We rely on an upright position to keep balance, and tug of war makes us negotiate that against the pull of the rope. Lions don't need to deal with that at all.

[–]Kritical02 212 points213 points  (24 children)

I lose tug of war battles to my dog sometimes. She has 3 legs and weighs 20 lbs. Maybe I just suck at tug of war...

[–]tonker724 49 points50 points  (5 children)

My 100 lbs lab can’t even beat me in a tug of war...you gotta hit the gym

[–]badger81987 100 points101 points  (15 children)

Most animals have really strong neck muscles too.

[–]Aedeus 33 points34 points  (6 children)

Lions have very powerful neck muscles iirc

[–]ISaidThatOnPurpose 6 points7 points  (0 children)

At first I was gonna comment "look how unfair it is to be a human" then I remember which of these 2 mammals is in a cage

[–]Rajirabbit 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ricochet from WWE Is the one pulling in back! Ricochet is awesome, but he jobbed our to this Lion

[–]MyPhillyHistory 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Ricochet!

[–]VaryStaybullGeenyiss 573 points574 points  (60 children)

Maybe if the rope wasn't wrapped around a piece of metal with all the tension generating tons of friction, you would have seen some back and forth movement at least. Idk if the humans would've won. But they probably would have a chance.

[–]Adkit 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not really, the lion wasn't trying to pull the rope in, just hold against the tugging. Anyone who's played with a dog would be able to tell you that. And the bend of the rope works boh ways and therefore cancels out, the men only had to move the cat and a tiny bit extra for the rope touching metal which clearly is not easy.

[–]Shaadowmaaster -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Or just keep going. Lion is stronger for a few minutes. Then it tires. Then it realises it can't pant to dissipate heat. Then it either let's go to pant or collapses of heat exhaustion. Humans always win in the long run.

[–]NotoriousBarosaurus 157 points158 points  (10 children)

The men would have won. They were really leaning back into it - with their combined weight (even just partial), the lion would be dunzo.

E: made an oopsie

[–]SnicklefritzSkad 33 points34 points  (7 children)

Exactly. It's not a matter of strength. If the pulling force is more than you weigh, the rope is moving. Unless of course you cheat, like the lion does in this video.

[–]FurRealDeal 31 points32 points  (1 child)

If the pulling force is more than you weigh, the rope is moving

No necessarily. There are other forces at work. 4 legs firmly planted and low to the ground offer a shit ton of leverage.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

dunzo

She wouldn't be Tom Haverford's friend anymore?

[–]lucidht 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is this so upvoted? It's so completely wrong...

[–]LeeKing00100 46 points47 points  (1 child)

So what you guys are telling me, is that the lion outsmarted them?

[–]haha89 49 points50 points  (2 children)

Yeah, also i have no idea but a lions bite is strong but not so much its pull on a rope with its mouth? The way it’s set up going around the bend def is preventing those men from even making a diff.

[–]TuxedoFriday 88 points89 points  (2 children)

Oh shit some of the NXT boys went to the zoo!

[–]Val_X[🍰] 67 points68 points  (23 children)

This might sound dumb but does it hurt its teeth?

[–]SilentFungus -1 points0 points  (1 child)

If it was in any pain it would probably just stop

[–]ItsMeKate17 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Good question - I don't know for sure, but in my mammalogy class I actually got to see and touch a lion skull. They have a protrusion on the top of their skulls called a sagittal crest which creates a large surface area for muscle attachments so that they have an extremely strong bite. This leads me to believe that it would actually not hurt the lion!

[–]guhcampos 16 points17 points  (2 children)

My dog loves that to the point I lift her at the air and whirlwind the shit out of her, she's a 25Kg Border Collie.

I get sore waaaaaay before she gets tired.

[–]dayyou 19 points20 points  (8 children)

I know for a fact my teeth would fall right out.

[–]foo_foo_the_snoo 64 points65 points  (5 children)

Every dog ever does this every day. I'm pretty sure these predator animals are built for it.

[–]hazdrubal -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Their teeth are stronger than any human could ever realize.

[–]Val_X[🍰] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Must be, i mean 3 men! My god isn't that one strong cat

[–]spidey0619 186 points187 points  (10 children)

Is that Ricochet?

[–]RicoCat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No, RicoCat.

[–]spidey0619 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I haven't heard of that species.

[–]Roguelo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think the first guy was Brian Cage

[–]TheKevinKevin 28 points29 points  (1 child)

No it's Prince Puma

[–]Who_Wants_Tacos 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Phffft. Prince Puma wears a puma mask. That's clearly a lion.

[–]MB-Bearded-RN 742 points743 points  (42 children)

That lion should bow before the glory that is Ricochet

[–]MMMAGA 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Holy shit. I used to go to lunch with this guy when he was working chikara. I got out of the wrestling scene eight or so years ago, had no idea he was in WWE now.

[–]ApparentlyJesus 62 points63 points  (0 children)

I didn't even realise it was him at first

[–]Who_Wants_Tacos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The one and only!

[–]JacksWastedTime 31 points32 points  (0 children)

That was my immediate thought after watching if that was him or not.

[–]Ready-Willing-Gable 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Just wait for his main roster debut when he’s pulling off 450 planchas and Michael Cole decides to mention “Ricochet can’t be taken lightly Corey, did you know Ricochet once got in a tug of war with a lion”

[–]EndlessPiece 44 points45 points  (17 children)

Yeah. And i know the guy at the very front is on nxt too. Althought he usually loses when he is on tv. Also it looks like the Scottish guys from Sanity too.

[–]collin9213 -2 points-1 points  (9 children)

Actually the guy with the beard is Hanson from war machine or whatever they are called on nxt now

[–]jvctheghost 5 points6 points  (8 children)

Nah that’s Killian Dain for sure

[–]collin9213 -5 points-4 points  (7 children)

It's Hanson lol. Be a bit odd for Dain to be there anyways since they got moved to SD.

[–]jvctheghost 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Nah dude Hanson’s beard is lighter in the middle and they aren’t on smackdown yet. Look at his cheeks too that’s definitely Killian.

[–]seligball 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Fabian Aichner is the first guy. 2nd guy looks like either Killian or Hanson.

[–]aa_flo 126 points127 points  (2 children)

I was wondering if that was him! Lol crazy

[–]rex_cc7567 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Yep, and the others are Killian Dain (Sanity) and Fabian Aichner

[–]foodkidFAATcity 2918 points2919 points  (124 children)

The lion cheated. She was holding the rope at an angle giving herself more leverage. I want a rematch.

[–]RadiatorSam 18 points19 points  (45 children)

Thats not how leverage works

[–]axp1729 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right, this would be vectors or something like that iirc

[–]thatmarcelfaust 20 points21 points  (37 children)

Yeah, aren’t both sides pulling at a right angle? I need a free body diagram

[–]RadiatorSam 5 points6 points  (36 children)

If the lion moves 1m the men move 1m, nobody has a mechanical advantage

[–]Erwin_the_Cat -1 points0 points  (18 children)

[as far as I have studied] This is not at all how physics works. The men are producing a force at a vector oriented entirely vertically (relative to them) the lion only receives the vertical component of that force while they are resisting it at an angle.

The same is true in reverse. If the lion aimed to pull the men closer. A lot of their force vector is being wasted horizontally and it would make more sense to approach them directly. But because the men are exorting more force, what would happen in this scenario is she would be pulled forward.

TLDR; Is it easier to pull a heavy wagon with a string parallel to the ground or one at an 89 degree angle?

EDIT: Perhaps I am incorrect?

EDIT2: I believe I was incorrect.

[–]Picklerage 3 points4 points  (15 children)

I’m sorry but you really don’t know nearly as much about physics as you seem to believe. Tension in a rope is the same at at both ends. We can consider the hole in the wall to be a simple pulley, in which case both sides have to exert the exact same force. In reality, this isn’t a simple pulley but instead is a pulley with friction, in which case the humans are exerting a bit more force because the lioness isn’t actually trying to move the rope to her side, but just resist motion.

The vector components of the forces have nothing to do with it.

[–]Erwin_the_Cat -1 points0 points  (7 children)

Are you sure? If I'm trying to pull a load it is a lot easier to pull it with a rope parallel to the ground than one that is almost vertical...

I'm just saying what I learned in studying math at uni. Not specifically physics btw. It's not my goal to talk down. Could be wrong. But generally this is my understanding.

[Edit] hmm. So wait am I confusing my dimensions here? Because the force being exerted is coplanar in this situation what I'm really saying is that pulling the rope straight up won't move the lion forward?

[–]taomark 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It absolutely has to do with force vectors. There is force being applied to the wall itself, that wouldn't be there if the rope was straight. Where do you think it's coming from? Some percentage of the force the men are applying to the rope is not acting on the lion, because the tension in the

rope is shared by a third object (the wall). Which means for the same amount of force applied by the men, if the rope was straight, the lion would need to resist greater force to remain stationary.

It would be easier to move the lion (or harder for the lion to resist, however you want think think about it) if the rope was straight.

Edit: Thinking about this more after I typed it, I realize that not only am I totally wrong, but that I don't understand the physical world as much as I thought I did, which is kind of freaking me out.

Edit 2: Do multiple pulleys still create a mechanical advantage if the forces are perpendicular to gravity?

[–]Ikuhito 13 points14 points  (14 children)

theres friction on the rope that makes it harder for the men to pull. Ever wonder why its impossible to move a piece of string after wrapping it around a pole after 2 or 3 wraps?

[–]Erwin_the_Cat 5 points6 points  (2 children)

It's really less about friction and more about the components of the force vector. But yes OP is entirely wrong

Although because I'm getting on my physics high horse the reason it's harder to pull a rope after multiple wrapping is because the friction linearly increases with the amount of rope touch the pole. In this case the angle of the rope influences that figure very negligibly.

That is to say a streight rope and a rope pulled all the way around the hole (such that lion and men on opposite sides of gate are side to side) differs by one half a pole circumference.

I'm not an asshole btw. Have an upvote!

EDIT: This is mostly incorrect!! Ignore me please!

[–]ItsAlwaysSunnyInCali 16 points17 points  (7 children)

Yeah but he's trying to say that its making it's also hard for the lion to pull. So maybe everyone in there are equally weak.

[–]somethingfuckingoof 4 points5 points  (5 children)

But the lion isn’t pulling, it’s resisting being pulled. So the lion has a clear advantage before anything else even comes into play.

[–]MogusMaximus 3 points4 points  (4 children)

The lion is pulling. Resisting is pulling. It's the same amount of force, or one side would move.

[–]somethingfuckingoof 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Not necessarily the same amount of force, the men have a harder pull and all we can see is that neither side is capable of generating enough to pull the other with resistance and friction

[–]kb1kb1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Equal/opposite and all that

[–]Timwi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just imagine the rope was wrapped around a cylinder 5 times and then you'll see they wouldn't move, even if one side stopped pulling. The fact that nobody's moving is due to the friction, not due to either side’s strength.

[–]goodguy_asshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, but it is far easy to maintain position, for both parties.

[–]Jugad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed .... none of them have an advantage, but moving the rope which has such deep grooves and is bent at a sharp place (like end of a pipe) is equally difficult for both the parties. If given enough of an angle, the lion can just stand there loosely holding onto the rope.

[–]PM_Trophies 67 points68 points  (5 children)

But that is how friction works. Bending the rope around a pivot point at that angle means nobody is going anywhere.

[–]RadiatorSam 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Yea, theres definitely a ratchet-esque mechanism at play that the sharp edge of that tube will let the rope move toward the lion but not back toward the men, but thats not leverage.

[–]Valac_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Still need to be strong enough to keep the rope from moving.

The lion is proving to be quite a solid anchor point.

[–]Amilo159 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly what I came here to say.

[–]snotboogie[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly right, but it's interesting the cat has learned to do that.

[–]polynomials -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure that's how leverage works. For one it's not a rigid arm, and for two, leverage is increased by distance from the fulcrum when you apply force perpendicular to the arm, not pulling along the length of the lever arm.

[–]thegurupreet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They are both at 90 deg from each other right?

[–]Sparkydog63 78 points79 points  (16 children)

I was about to say, do you know how hard it is to pull anything immediately 90°?

[–]JustBronzeThingsLoL 134 points135 points  (10 children)

If you think that's a 90 degree angle, I feel sorry for your geometry teacher.

[–]ChanTheManCan 31 points32 points  (0 children)

HA FUCK HIM HE DOESNT EVEN GEOMETRY BRO WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT

[–]Sparkydog63 39 points40 points  (3 children)

Clearly it was 85.7°. My bad.

[–]Furzellewen_the_2nd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean it looks about 60 degrees at most to me.

[–]Korn_Bread 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Is the lion not pulling at an equal angle?

[–]Pickselated 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The lion isn't pulling, it's just resisting their pull. They're trying to make the rope move, all the lion has to do is stop it from moving.

[–]two_cat_morty 27 points28 points  (9 children)

Aren't the people also pulling at an angle?

[–]thburningiraffe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They’re perpendicular to the wall though

[–]taomark 50 points51 points  (7 children)

The lion isn't really pulling, it's resisting being pulled. Imagine if instead of the lion a big fat guy was sitting on a sled, holding onto the rope. If the rope has significant friction against the hole in the wall, it's going to be more difficult to move that guy.

[–]Lyin-Don 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Clever girl

[–]cookiemonster247 171 points172 points  (17 children)

Also had 4 feet on the ground, low center of gravity, and claws to dig into the grass

[–]DankDialektiks 31 points32 points  (1 child)

However, the angle is the biggest factor

[–]sonofaresiii 31 points32 points  (1 child)

I'm sure if any of those guys wanted to get on all fours and pull with their teeth, they could have

[–]Zugzub 189 points190 points  (11 children)

Claws are designed to pull a cat up or forward. in this instance, they would be little help. Have a cat? let them climb your pants, you can easily pull their claws out by pulling forward.

[–]rafaelloaa 124 points125 points  (8 children)

Yeah, I'm going to give that a hard pass.

[–]Zugzub 31 points32 points  (7 children)

Oh come on, I'm not talking about letting a lion crawl up your pants.

[–]physicscat 55 points56 points  (3 children)

In other words, she the smart one of the bunch.

[–]ihatehappyendings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In other words, she the smart one of the lunch.

[–]hotcheetosfries 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The lion said the same thing about the humans

[–]JohnCenaAMA 1291 points1292 points  (13 children)

Maybe lion should be a cheetah.

[–]KingdaToro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

How many New England Cheetahs would it take to beat an actual Cheetah in tug of war?

[–]naricstar 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Chetah blood does not make you a chetah.

[–]mudbloodanddbeer 349 points350 points  (7 children)

Damn’t Dad, get off of Reddit.