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[–]pikachewbaccala -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

But why the hell is it called “I, Tonya”...?

[–]jedipaul9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because she narrated most of the movie

[–]NoComment14 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because much of it is shot in a first person shot of Tonya. It represents her giving her testimony to the audience. It’s actually a very good title given how the film is shot and how the story unfolds. The film is essentially her long version of what happened.

[–]sleepingturtles 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Loved it.

[–]jedipaul9 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I saw this film completely on a whim. I didn't even know it was about the ice skating thing in the 90s, so I literally had 0 expectations.

I really enjoyed it. I would give it an 8/10. I thought the performances were good, (except for Derrick and Shawna) and I felt like the film was extremely effective. It told an interesting story from the perspective of unreliable narrators with style and class. Ironically I found the 4th wall breaks even more immersive.

I never really cared about the controversy about this event, I was too young when it happened, and I'm not a huge figure skating guy. I've seen some people criticize this film for glorifying a character like Tonya. I don't really feel like this film glorified Tonya, but rather tried to sympathize with her. Tonya was portrayed as a believeable human character, but I wouldn't call her likeable, or even particularly relateable. I could appreciate the story this film tried to tell and I was very entertained through the course of the film.

[–]Film27 0 points1 point  (5 children)

People are complaining about the cgi but i thought it was great. "It" had horrible cgi but i don't hear people calling it out for some reason.

[–]ElliottAbusesWomen 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Where was there CGI?

[–]Film27 0 points1 point  (3 children)

During some skate scenes. Margot Robbie did skate but the jumping and fast spinning they cgi Margot's face. I thought it wasn't bad but It had horrid cgi. It the moive was ridiculous.

[–]ElliottAbusesWomen 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yea I assumed they did some CGI on her face during the skating but that's all people are complaining about? The face would have been blurry even if Robbie had been doing the skating, they're moving very fast, it looks blurry on live TV.

[–]jedipaul9 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I remember one or two shots where the use of green screen background is jarringly noticeable, but I prefer a film where my biggest criticism are the visual effects. I was so immersed in the other aspects of the film that tops didn't really bother me

[–]ElliottAbusesWomen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn’t notice that but I saw it at an Alamo Drafthouse, so, you know....

[–]Orenda_wave -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

I really can't decide if it's ethical to watch this movie. I assume Tonya is getting paid for it, and I'd hate to support her at all. Meanwhile Nancy Kerrigan is being harassed about her thoughts on the incident once again, and as always is asking people to stop bringing up her assault so she can move on.

[–]ElliottAbusesWomen 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It likely she got paid a flat fee and isn't getting any residuals or anything so she made her money regardless if zero people or infinite people see the movie.

[–]Orenda_wave 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what are you basing that on

[–]Film27 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Did you watch the movie?

[–]Orenda_wave 0 points1 point  (0 children)

obviously not, that's why i put the idea forward.

[–]Seamlesslytango 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I've found myself getting bored with movies that are "based on a true story" lately as they seem like the only "original" thing Hollywood is capable of and interested in producing anymore. And half of the time, they need to spruce up the real story to make it watchable anyway.

But I, Tonya was a huge refresher from that. With the talking heads, 4th wall breaking, biased and inconsistent stories, it was really original and fun. The way it's told is almost like a mix of The Big Short and Bernie. Margot Robbie kicks ass here. And Allison Janney holds her spot as one of my favorite actresses of all time.

I knew nothing about this story before seeing this movie and now I have so many opinions about the whole incident. Not many based on a true story movies are rewatchable, but I can't wait to watch this one again!

[–]jedipaul9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funny how the 4th wall breaks in this film added top the immersion

[–]axioche 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In lack of better words, I thought this movie was amazing. As a person going in with basically no knowledge of this whole incident, I thought the story felt very real (as in not overly blown-up and dramatized, and you could sense how biased the narrators were), the acting was amazing (I really do not have the vocabulary for this), and the last movie I watched that really got my heart racing was Inception.

I don't know how to put this in words, but this movie really took me on an emotional roller coaster. I've never ever watched a movie that was able to capture so well the feeling of people watching you in a crowd (used to do theatre), the nervous energy (butterflies-in-stomach kinda feel) that was in a room when something big was about to happen, and the gut-wrenching moments that either got you rooting for or really disliking a character. The hope and desperation at the end, Tonya's helplessness. Goddang Margot Robbie, man. I'm not sure why this movie was marketed as a comedy as well as a biopic/drama, but it was pretty dang dramatic for me.

I thought the characters were very well written. Everyone was played very believably, and it was easy to empathize with the characters. Maybe besides Shawn. That dude, lol. But, for all the main characters, it was easy to step into their shoes and really understand and feel them, their motives, their goals. Yes, LaVona was a shitty person, but I felt that I understood what she was trying to do, how much she's sacrificed and pushed her daughter and how she really felt that she was doing the right thing, and that she made a damn good athlete.

Okay, I'm out of words. There was definitely something about this movie that really took my breath away, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

[–]HowiDisappear 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Fantastic movie, definitely in my top 10 movies of 2017.

[–]shitbreak93 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

It came out in 2018 I thought

[–]HowiDisappear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe it had a limited release in 2017 to get nominated for awards.

[–]BeyonceIsBetter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This might be my favorite movie ever. The story is just so good and that’s because it’s real, or whatever blurred line that real is. It was fun, I laughed a lot, and I wanted to tear up for Tonya at the end even though I went into it thinking that she was 9000% guilty

[–]ekrumholz1 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Did every laugh line fall flat for you as well? Also seeing a fat man eating in every scene felt super hack to me.

The movie was good but the winky Wolf of Wall Street- Big Short- etc. style is growing very stale

[–]Seamlesslytango 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I laughed every time they showed him and he was eating. It felt like less of a hack joke to me and more like that's probably accurate to how much this dude was eating. I hated his character so much.

[–]apost8n8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was a fantastic movie. I thought it was funny and interesting. I watched all of this with fascination when it happened and the movie didn't sugar coat anything. "Her" story is exactly what I expected it to be.

[–]btr2tv 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Anyone else think that Shawn Eckhardt is the personification of r/iamverybadass? That's what I thought of when I saw his interview was actually real. Still a bit mind blown.

[–]StMcAwesome 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Amazing. Margot Robbie was a fucking revelation.

[–]Film27 3 points4 points  (1 child)

"Suck my dick"

[–]CaptainFullback 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Outstanding movie, I loved it

[–]rubberfactory5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Favorite film of the year. Every single story beat landed perfectly for me. Great direction, even greater acting.

[–]oopsiedaisymeohmy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sorry but I think that Margot was wildly miscast. I know people still have this weird obsession with her ability to put on a trashy accent, but other than her voice she did not fit this role AT ALL.

[–]TheCrudeDude 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Margot would actually make a really great Nancy Kerrigan.

[–]canwepleasejustnot 9 points10 points  (0 children)

As a lower middle class trashy girl who was involved in competitive dance, I am so excited to see this movie. I haven't seen it yet. Will probably be seeing it tomorrow.

[–]cheekybeeboo -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Totally overrated film. It was OK, but nothing special. I particularly hated the overuse of songs. It seemed like most of the film had some pop song playing in the background. The director is obviously some Scorsese wannabe but lacks his talent and nuance. The story itself was only half-realised as well. And yes the fat guy is eating every single time we see him -- hahahaha -- stop. I'd give this film 5/10.

[–]TheNewColor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Worse than Suicide Squad in that regard lol

[–]leavingforgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny. I felt the same way. I think the elements were all there but the editing and pacing was far too inconsistent.

[–]akoaytao1234 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Got me with its trailer. I did not expect it to be more dramatic and serious though. Tonya truly had it hard does she and thank God this film is able to give her justice. Margot Robbie and [the very underrated] Sebastian Stan was marvelous with their roles. I mean I know that they are charming and lookers but they both were able to embody their role that you forget that they are Harlequin and Bucky for the entire film. Also, Janney was good as LaVona but is a rehash of character roles she already did in the past. My only issues about the film is some pacing issues midway the film and its handling of the incident. I do not know. It just felt less compelling compared to the first half and last quarter of it. Something about it feels to centered towards Tonya. In conclusion, this film is by no means perfect but it just so damn interesting. Tonya Harding was really something else. No wonder this was considered tabloid gold during the nineties. You could not just need an even ask for even more crazy biopic subject than her. Her life is a Greek tragedy personified and I kinda felt sad reading more about her. I mean just reading this profile! alone truly show the hurdle that she needed to jump through to be even be considered as a contender. This profile was written way before the accident and it truly shows how big of a misfit and underrated she was considered in her sport. Even more damning is that it fact-checks the abuse she was actually getting then and the difficulty she was having with money and such. By no means I am trying to downplay the accident but she was truly a tragedy and a very compelling one.

[–]YetYetAnotherPerson 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Interesting: Per that 1992 profile her dad didn't leave when she was a little kid (as in the movie), but later after the incident with her half brother, when she was already going out with Jeff Gillooly.

Also, her half brother was killed in a hit and run 3 years later--wonder if that was really an accident...

[–]akoaytao1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I believe it was actually LaVona that left them first but her father's of lack of work due to a back injury made it quite difficult for them to live together. Thus, Tonya was thrown back to LaVona to support her career in Figure Skating. Also, I would not be shocked if her half brother was killed by purpose due to his sketchy past.

[–]col-fancypants 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Saw this movie last weekend and I was impressed. But after hearing a radio show talker say he didn't want to see it due to glamorization made me want to give my two bits.

I, Tonya gives the viewer 5-6 distinct, unreliable, and real narrators. You have Tonya, her ex husband/manager, her ex's friend, her mother, her trainer, and a few people she had contact with over time. Tonya and her ex are probably most unreliable of the group, but even in their stories there is truth. Her mother, the friend, and the trainer I take as being more reliable. The mother admits in so little words to being hard and uncaring, but you see glimpses of regret and love. The friend is the original neck beard of the late 80's early 90's and is so caught up in his own personal fantasies that even his lies let you see the kind of person he is. And the trainer, she has nothing to lie about. Her part in the story is as the one who helped Tonya improve at 2 of the most crucial times in her career.

The movie also gives us a good, hard look at the story behind the news story. The poverty, home life, abuse, and anger seethes at every seem. As someone who grew up around and had family in very similar situations, it was easy to connect. Abandonment is the paramount theme of the film. At some point Tonya and the other people either abandon or are abandoned. Whether it be leaving the trainer, her father leaving her with her mother, leaving her mother, leaving her husband, her husband throwing shade on his friend, the skating world rejecting Tonya as a child, the courts and skating world baring Tonya from ever being near the ice, and the world's fickle feelings for Tonya. Tonya went from nobody, to the girl who could, the the girl who can't, to the monster, and the girl that might, and finally to the woman we forgot as quickly as we accepted her. Even without the Nancy Kerrigan attack, Tonya Harding would either be no one today or a low level skating trainer. Other than her appearances on TruTv and the occasional interview of sound bites, no one cares about Tonya or Nancy anymore. Imagine going from the spotlight to the darkness of obscurity in less than 6 years. I don't root for Tonya in the film, but I do see her as human rather than a monster or some obscure caricature that we have made her into.

The people who made this movie don't want you to root for anyone in it. They just want to tell their story from the given perspective of the people who lived it. And even the film makers make nods to reliability or truthfulness of the people they are portraying. Their is no hero in the film, just a lot of people who made choices they will always be defined by.

It's a well made film by all accounts too. The 4th wall moments aren't that jarring as some claim, but they do feel like part of the narrative. We have 5 story tellers telling their parts of a tale separately and the film makers cobbled it together that way. So when something happens that involves two or more of the narrators, sometimes we get to hear the contradictions or the calling out of the other narrators. My only issue with the skating portion is the occasional glaring CGI in the final spins.

And if you read the end scrolls and watch the actual interviews that the ones in the film are based on it helps solidify the human quality. Tonya's last quote is about how she is a good mother. That stuck with me more than anything else. Because if she is truthful, then all the evil and darkness that occurred at least gave her the reason to be a better parent to her child.

[–]Juan_Cocktoasten 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I watched this last night and then I watched it again tonight. The reason is because I read some things on this thread that made me think that I hadn't really been paying attention the first time.

It's true when Margot is reliving Tonya's best skating moment ever, she says (about her greatest moment on ice) that, "No one ever asks me about that anymore" she wasn't kidding. As it seems no one ever did. And they should have.

The other hard moment was at the end, where Margot/Tonya is incredulous that she can never skate again in any official capacity. That was pretty harsh. They should have just let her do the jail time. They didn't have to take her whole life away from her. And what a coach Tonya might have been.

[–]fanror 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I think that in truth the legal system just hit her with fines, probation etc., but the skating federation she had to be a part of to participate had their own investigation and ousted her after the trial and after the Olympics. At least that's what I recall.

[–]ElliottAbusesWomen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Part of her plea deal was that she resign from the US Figure Skating Association who then banned her from life from their events.

[–]dont_worry_im_here 5 points6 points  (9 children)

When did America start turning against her? In the movie, even after she was publicly known as "maybe being a part of the ploy", people were still lauding her. It showed people with signs loving her, watching her skate, clapping at the Olympics in the last skate scene, etc...

I remember growing up that America fucking hated her but this movie didn't show that side for some reason.

[–]leavingforgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was another part missing from the movie. The role the media played. Or at least how she turned from darling to devil.

[–]jedipaul9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the purpose of the film was to let the audience decide how to feel about her. I loved the film, but to me it read as somewhat sarcastic. I laughed at the "She wants everyone to know she's a good mother line" because based on everything I saw in the film she's a pretty shallow, petty person. But her story was entertaining and that's what mattered.

[–]napswithdogs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I saw it at Alamo Drafthouse, where they show content related to the movie for 30 minutes before showtime. They showed a rather impressive montage of how the media made fun of her.

[–]Seamlesslytango 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I'm a little lost on this because I was 2 when the incident happened, and as much as the movie isn't glorifying Tonya, I still really felt for her and wanted her to succeed. So people really hate her because they thought she was an active part in the plot? Or was there something more? And how does her turning her husband in not free her from responsibility? why does she still get banned from skating for life?

[–]Orenda_wave 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Honestly, there is very little doubt that she had little to do with the plot. It's a lot like OJ Simpson in that regard. No one can prove anything, but everyone knows.

If you're young, it might seem unfair, but there was an attempt to strip the life of another figure skater away from her out of jealousy. They wanted to do damage that would prevent her from ever competing. IT was the most blatant display of bad sportsmanship and jealousy that we'd seen in a long time.

Tonya had a hard life, but that doesn't excuse her own behavior. It only offers a small explanation.

Frankly, the reason she was banned for life is because the skating community didn't want her to skate. It wasn't necessarily fair at its core, because there were attitudes towards her well before the incident, but it's very understandable for professional athletes to not want to compete against someone who might try to maim them.

[–]Seamlesslytango 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, I guess that makes sense. I never thought that her having a hard life would excuse any of this, but at least the way the movie put it, it seems like she had nothing to do with it and there was never a death threat on Nancy. I can definitely believe that the skating community would use this as a way to get rid of her, guilty or not.

[–]shademuseum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I remember within skating fan circles there were people who saw her as an underdog and outsider and were not convinced she was involved. I remember one fan telling me that she "didn't know what to believe," so there was a bit of denial then as well as lingering sympathy. There were also skating fans who really did not care for Nancy. I recall when Nancy's "corny" comments at Disney came out quite a few people immediately proudly announced that they "knew it."

[–]Taboo_Dynasty 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I remember that, too. I clearly remember her and her greasy boyfriend killing Nancy's Olympic dreams. And now Nancy is forever linked to this physco. There's like four different shows about it now. WTF? Go tie your fucking laces Tonya. Sorry, not buying it.

[–]Film27 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"you guys are my attackers too" while she speaks to the public. yes.

[–]T0yN0k 8 points9 points  (7 children)

I came in expecting a good movie thanks to the trailer. I didn't know I was walking into what could be my favorite movie in last 5 years. Margot was incredible and her last scene with the judge was heartbreaking. Sebastian was pretty terrifying because one minute he seems meek and the next he's an asshole abuser. I did feel the last part of the story dragged a bit but I didn't mind.

[–]oopsiedaisymeohmy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's pretty typical abuser behaviour, and I'm glad it's shown on film. We grow up thinking that an abuser is cartoonishly evil - that it's obvious, right from the beginning. That he's big, and ugly, and mean all the time to every person in every situation and hits you from day 1 and doesn't apologize. Tat's not how it is ... at all.

[–]Raven_Skyhawk 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Sebastian was pretty terrifying because one minute he seems meek and the next he's an asshole abuser.

Wanted to watch movie, not sure if want to now. Love Seabass, not sure I want to see him be scary. I really like the depth I've seen him portray in some areas (Winter Soldier/Bucky has a lot!) but an irl abuser type...

Aw hell, it sounds like a good movie and I'll probably watch it anyway.

[–]gurlthoseshoes 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I mean, it should be pretty easy to separate actor from character, right? I had a sad though while watching the movie that maybe some assholes are gonna hate on him for playing a wife beater, especially since I like Sebastian (unrelated to him being a Romanian such as myself).

[–]Raven_Skyhawk 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I guess its less that than personal issues with myself. I can't stand men yelling and kinda fall to pieces over it (thanks dad). In unrealistic situations, it doesn't bother me so much, but in more realistic ones or people near me, it really upsets me.

[–]gurlthoseshoes 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Oh damn, I'm sorry to hear that, hope it gets better for you. Not sure what to say about the movie then. It's not a full on drama and it's not really about the abuse, so maybe it doesn't really fall into the realistic situation you were talking about (not sure if this was what you meant), but it does get very rough at times.

[–]Raven_Skyhawk 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I appreciate that. That helps, I think it'd be something I can handle aight. /tips non existent hat

[–]gurlthoseshoes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

/tips non existent hat back

[–]BreakingHoff 14 points15 points  (1 child)

What surprised me most of all was that I was much more intrigued by the beginning/first half of the film than the second half, where the actual assault takes place. Obviously that's the main aspect of the story, but I just felt it sort of fell off a tad when it got really into it.

That being said, I wouldn't be upset to see Robbie get the Oscar. She was fantastic.

[–]IceCreaaams 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think Tonya's backstory is the main aspect. This movie seems more about showing the world what we didn't see. Anyone who watched this movie likely already knew about the incident, but most people didn't know Tonya's side to the story an how she struggled growing up.

[–]sunggyukim 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I've been seeing a little blowback about this movie, but I didn't get it at all. I didn't think it glamorized/sanitized Tonya as much as showed the complete picture about her life. I got the impression they showed her (and all the characters) to be unreliable narrators to avoid straight-out taking her side.

The music killed me because when I got home I looked up some of Tonya's routines and she really did use those songs lol.

[–]jedipaul9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I loved this movie, but I don't see how anyone could come out of this film thinking Tonya was a likeable character. It was like a modern day Greek tragedy

[–]Goon_Wizard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fun fact......at the time she was in a metal band 'Golden Blades' and since she has set a land speed record in a model A ford racing on salt flats.

[–]murphstar 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I enjoyed this. Only part I felt was not working was the breaking the 4th wall in scenes they used in additional to the interview moments. You don't need to use both, just one or the other.

[–]mikeweasy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that kind of annoyed me as well, the only one I really liked was the very last scene.

[–]dabnada 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Every time they broke the fourth wall when not in an interview scene, it felt very out of place. You put the interview scenes in for a reason, why add in more 4th wall breaking when you don't need to?

[–]Taboo_Dynasty 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Why do they always blame the mother?

[–]ElliottAbusesWomen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who's "they"?

Tanya blamed her mother because she was an abusive alcoholic.

[–]canwepleasejustnot 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I don't know why people are downvoting you. This is a good question. As an only child who had a stage mother with fairly high expectations, I will vouch. It's usually the mother. Now, that doesn't necessarily means that the mothers are 100% in the wrong, abusive bitches, nor do we think that (at least I do not). I identify a lot with my mom as I get older, and I sympathize with how she interacted with me, even if it was awful sometimes. Even if it still is. At the end of the day, especially in situations where the mother is alone, there will often be some sort of issue with the child which will cause the kid to lash out in some way and the behavior is always going to be blamed on the parent.
tl;dr - parents raise you so yeah

[–]oopsiedaisymeohmy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's also usually the mother because the mother is the one who is taking care of the child. Even in marriages where mom and dad are still together and both work outside the home, mom still does 2/3's of the child care. So imagine a mom who stays at home with the kids all the time while dad works, or a mom who is a single parent with no dad around whatsoever.

Plus there's the fact that a lot of women feel like they have to be the disciplinarian. That if they don't take care of things, organize things, raise their children right, it won't be done at all. Father are afforded the ability to goof off and basically become just another child for their wife to take care of.

[–]canwepleasejustnot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's true. You are right.

[–]Juan_Cocktoasten 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Because her mother was a monster and didn't try to hide it. I was hit by both mother and father who both hid their abuse and acted like pillars of society, whilst having a lot of money. So the difference between Tonya and me was that my parents were responsible role models and made me be that way too. I wanted to act out like Tonya too, but I didn't because of appearances.

[–]Taboo_Dynasty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not sure if you are saying your parents abused you or taught you not to act out on every dark thought that crossed your mind. I agree that it is horrible when a parent has betrayed the trust of their child. I suppose when you get to heart of it, it is a story of child abuse and the consequences we all have to deal with.

[–]eskorbutin00 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's an amazing movie... I really liked how Margot was so inmerse on the character... as a non american I never heard of Tonya story but man... that was a dark path.

[–]Raven_Skyhawk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember the story coming out when I was a little kid/seeing it in the news all over the place. It was a big deal here.

[–]khany 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I quite like Margot's performance, I'm always surprised when she pushes it I keep froegetting she's that good an actress. The film was ok I just feel the interview/reality TV structure in biopics feel a bit overdone, the skating scenes were directed gooood!

[–]oopsiedaisymeohmy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly I thought Margot was a bit too ham fisted. I also thought she didn't look the part what so ever in any way shape or form so it probably made it feel even more hammy. I felt like I was watching a SNL sketch. She's a good actor, but I can almost guarantee they could have found an actor who visually and physically fit the part who would have seemed more natural. But nah, gotta give the beautiful tall people all the roles, even one's for 5 foot unattractive people. Eyeroll.

[–]redditor4258 1 point2 points  (1 child)

the difference is though that the film is based on interviews. Some of the scenes are are basically reenactments not original mockumentry script. for me that makes it unique and creative.

[–]khany 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see what u mean, I think the best friend interview and seeing his actual interview in the credits and how nuts he was is sublime to see.

[–]HoneyShaft 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Some really solid performances and good pacing. If that's really how it went down I feel bad for her.

[–]Film27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I left the theater feeling that Tonya Harding didn't deserve what happened to her. Margot Robbie at the end when she was crying after she could longer be on the ice just left killed me. Margot Robbie made you feel what Tonya felt and that's why i love going to the movies and feeling connected to them.

[–]redditor4258 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can't help but feel that's the point.

[–]ACAB_420_666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Solid 7.5/10 IMO. Good pacing for the first 2/3s, but like most biopics it kind of drags a bit at the end and gets a little too into its own conclusion.

[–]Dark_Vengence 6 points7 points  (13 children)

I felt bad for tonya harding. She lived a sad life. Her mother didn't love her and she was abused a lot. I learnt a lot about her. I thought she was a monster but i have changed my opinion about her. What she did was still reckless though.

[–]IceCreaaams 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I mean, if the story is 100% true, then yeah, sure. But we don't know that everything portrayed in the movie is true.

[–]Dark_Vengence 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the abuse is pretty much true.

[–]romansapprentice 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Meh. Many people were not loved by children and abused, most would never do what she did. Her past really isn't an excuse.

[–]Huggabutt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't know 'most' people, nor do you know what actually happened (no one does and this movie doesn't confirm either way, owing to unreliable narrators throughout the film). Furthermore 'most' people will never experience anything like she went through at all, and there's no saying how they would behave given her life. That's the whole point of the movie, that people are people, not either 'good' with a robotically unassailable moral code ingrained from birth, or 'evil' (i.e. dehumanized) because they could even 'conceive of such a horrible thing' as an option. The world of competitive skating was rife with sabotage; given her circumstances the decision to participate in it (in whatever capacity she actually did) is more likely than unlikely FOR a normal person. She would have drawn upon a special moral fortitude to play exactly by the rules with the cards stacked against her; that would have made her LESS human.

Your statement 'most would never do what she did' is absolutely unquantifiable since she's the only one who has lived her whole life, and logical evidence viewing the climate of that world suggests it's untrue in any case.

[–]Juan_Cocktoasten 3 points4 points  (4 children)

It's a class thing. If she was abused by rich parents she might have shoved the abuse aside because children of abuse don't act out because they have to act a certain way. (Wealthy and contented.) But because she was abused by a trailer trash mother, and was raised as trailer trash, that's why she acted as she did. Because she didn't know any better.

[–]snarkdiva 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Not just that, but she was treated by the skating judges as inferior because she wasn't a princess and didn't have the fancy outfits. She was athletic and talented. Kerrigan's jumps didn't have nearly the power and speed that Tonya's had. I watched the whole thing unfold back then and I lost respect for Kerrigan when she won the silver and then whined about the gold medal winner taking too long to get to the podium. You could tell she thought she was owed the gold.

[–]Juan_Cocktoasten 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree in full. I also watched it unfold at the time. And don't forget Kerrigan's remarks in the Disney parade, calling it "corny." Ingrate. Team Tonya!

[–]oopsiedaisymeohmy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. She wasn't beautiful enough.

[–]col-fancypants 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's why at the end, Tonya's statement has her say that she is a good mother to her child.

[–]GalaxyPatio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk if I would go so far as to say "most". Many of the people that I'm close to were abused as children and have done pretty shitty things but just haven't had the status or access to cause damage that people remember on a grand scale.

[–]Dark_Vengence 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but still crappy.

[–]mysleepnumberis420 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Like most biopics, there's a healthy amount of bullshit folded in.

[–]JDLovesElliot 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Really enjoyed the creative liberties of the screenplay, and Margot Robbie and Sebastian Stan were incredible. You really did want to root for Robbie, almost forgetting that the movie explicitly tells you that she's an unreliable narrator. Stan's performance was scary at times, when he goes from cowardly to full-blown violent.

My only complaint is that the music was way too on the nose, like a Zac Snyder film. It didn't add to the narrative at all, the characters already did a good job of setting mood.

[–]fMurrayAbraham 1 point2 points  (2 children)

My only complaint is that the music was way too on the nose,

This is what turned it from a great movie into a just-good movie. Lazy, lazy music choices.. some bad music choices. A bunch of 70s shit that served nothing except to be "hey, remember how this song sounds? Here it is being used in a situation where it sounds ok"

[–]JDLovesElliot 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Definitely, especially because Guardians 2 used "The Chain" so much better.

[–]fMurrayAbraham 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Goddamn near every one of those 70s butt rock songs has been used elsewhere. I don't understand if it's supposed to be mostly set in the late 80s early 90s why they didn't use period music. There are hundreds of great choices from the early 90s that would have fit better and haven't been used to death. And why the fuck was there just a random Violent Femmes song in there?

[–]HavingALittleFit 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I couldn't get enough of the "Human Sacrifice" vibe from this. The very self aware presence in the story of "We know why you came to this movie, you know why you came to this movie." was so present in all the fourth wall breaks and then eventually when "Chain" by fleetwood mac was playing they just opened it up and held on Tonya staring at the audience calling everyone out for being a part of the massive need to watch someone get destroyed on tv.

They also got across the impact of the domestic violence so well. Even going into this movie you were more than likely to know that Tonya Harding was both physically and emotionally abused in her life and every time it happened it still supprised and shook you. I got to see it at a full theater and when her husband hits her you could really feel the whole room shake. I really liked this movie.

[–]col-fancypants 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I never knew about her abuse, her poverty, or any of that. All I ever saw was Nancy. Tonya was this monster in the background who hurt Nancy. I never knew about the triple until I saw the movie. I never knew about the plotting of her husband and his friends.

Watching that movie, all I could think of was my dad's family and my mom's grandmother. It was like watching twisted home movies of what my mom and dad never wanted to be like. Spot on if you ask me.

[–]DodoJenkins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a great movie trapped inside a good movie. Margot Robbie makes Tonya one of the most emotionally accessible protagonists I've seen in a while. You can't help but root for her. The wicked mother is terrific and more than a caricature. I don't have many complaints about the characters. They're all given moments of levity and complexity. One problem with the film is the overuse of breaking the fourth wall. Having characters say "I did this...and this...but not this!" got annoying rather quickly. Every once in a while you'd get a good stretch of Scorsese-esque drama, and then one of the characters would interrupt with an unnecessary witticism, and that took me out of the experience. But overall, this movie should win most people over because of its characters. They're all funny and superbly drawn. And the story is mostly told well. 8/10.

[–]rottenpotatoesfresh 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Was anyone else distracted by the CGI faces on the skaters? When Robbie was skating and when she was a kid, it was distractingly bad, in my opinion. Otherwise, I liked this movie more than I thought I would and I think I even loved it.

[–]col-fancypants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only CGI that was glaring to me was the final spin she would always do.

[–]eureka7 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I saw it last night. I don't consider myself to be a CGI snob or any kind of special effects expert, but the skating scenes completely took me out of my immersion. Her face was changing minute by minute like a shapeshifter; I was shocked at how noticable and distracting it was.

Easily my biggest critique of the film.

[–]goodwithblahs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me too... It would have been better just to film it from afar.

[–]Kermitcat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I didn't even notice.

Did you know about CGI beforehand?

[–]mjack421 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is one of 2017's best. Really does handle humor with surprising emotion. I think it needed to be this way, a super serious telling would have felt odd. Kind of reminiscent of The Big Short. Think it broke 4th wall a little too much though.

Nice to see a biopic that isn't lifeless. Highly recommended.

[–]InsertAlinaLiOnFace 5 points6 points  (23 children)

Robbie is fantastic in this, but I had real issues with how they presented Tonya as the victim (and/or some kind of hero) in this. The real Harding didn't just know about the crime, she was part of organizing it, right down to planning a kidnapping. It's the same kind of historical rewriting that made Greatest Showman unbearable.

[–]Subhuman_of_the_year 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It's a movie. You can't just have the protagonist be a terrible asshole, or do something irredeemable in the eyes of the audience. I mean you can, but it's hard. And not in this movie anyway.

[–]InsertAlinaLiOnFace 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's a black comedy biopic. It's been done before.

[–]Subhuman_of_the_year 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not that it doesn't work in this kind of film, just that it's really, really hard to pull off and you have to be kind of a genius to do it. This movie was good but it wasn't genius. Plus I mean the test audiences are going to hate it and then it's gonna get re-filmed by Ron Howard. Also biopics where the person is still alive tend to be fluff pieces anyway.

[–]JDLovesElliot 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The movie is very aware of that, towards the end when Tonya is meeting with the FBI. She seems very hesitant when talking to the audience, so we're to assume that she was more in on "the event," than appeared.

[–]Film27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tonya in my opinion was innocent.

[–]jasserhere 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The real Harding didn't just know about the crime, she was part of organizing it, right down to planning a kidnapping.

Nobody know if this is true, not even you and the way you're saying it like a matter of fact is irritating

[–]Yeamf93 11 points12 points  (0 children)

and/or some kind of hero

Honestly, isn't she at least a tiny bit admirable? Let's for a second forget about the incident. Here's a woman who started skating at 3, dedicated so much time and energy to this growing up (8 hours a day every day at age 15? That's insane), quit school to focus on this, had NOTHING else to fall back onto, fucked it up because of her personal life (I'm referring to the 92 Olympics, when she was drinking and gained weight right before - something I won't hold against her, because she was a victim of abuse) AND at only 24 - it was all taken from her.

So, imagine being a 24 year old with no skills, and the 1 thing you were good at and worked towards for 21 years was taken from you. I am 24 right now, and I can't even imagine how scary it must be. How many people could survive that? She is now a functioning person. Like, has a family and all that. My god, I failed a couple of classes in college and I locked myself in my room feeling sorry for myself for days! She fucked up in the Olympics, she fucked up her chances of becoming THE best, everything was ruined - and she still kept going.

That, resilience, is at least admirable. So... I'll give her that.

[–]ImSuperObjective2 2 points3 points  (14 children)

It's the same kind of historical rewriting that made Greatest Showman unbearable.

P.T. Barnum's been dead for a long time. Doesn't matter anymore. Nobody claims a fun musical is historically accurate, anyway.

It's like going to a movie called "Hitler with dinosaurs" expecting an accurate account of WWII.

[–]InsertAlinaLiOnFace 4 points5 points  (13 children)

It's like going to a movie called "Hitler with dinosaurs"

As opposed to going to "The Greatest Showman" which literally is all about what a swell, accepting guy Barnum was, just months after the Barnum circus has been closed down. It's creating a false legacy for a slave owner and all around asshole.

[–]col-fancypants 1 point2 points  (7 children)

They didn't paint that picture, but there were little things in it that showed he was a crook, selfish, and human. Stealing and lying to banks. Lying to people with strange features to get their contracts. Leaving wife and children to trapes about the land with a fancy singer. Getting a possible business partner drunk enough to accept working with him. Snubbing his people whenever they were in an open society event. Buying his families love. Honestly if you look past the glamour, it shows Barnum's flaws pretty well. Sure they aren't water for elephants level of realism, but they are their just under the surface.

[–]InsertAlinaLiOnFace 0 points1 point  (6 children)

it shows Barnum's flaws pretty well.

Guy was a slaver who paraded an elderly black woman around the states, claiming she was the wet nurse for Lincoln. When the lady died, he sold tickets to her autopsy.

The movie doesn't even begin to cover was a shit he was.

[–]col-fancypants 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Well that doesn't fit a musical about a circus. And honestly, we still do that today. When someone does something we want every morsel. When people get their heads blown off the media and internet swarm to either cover or show it.

Also it was George Washington's Nurse, which makes it even more insane. The man was born in 1810. Yes, he provided entertainment with cruel and dark means. But millions paid the entrance fee. Millions laughed and screamed. Trying to make PT Barnum sound like a monster because he was doing something that we see as evil in 21st century is like pointing the finger at the Roman's and the Coliseum for being horrific. Barnum may have been the ring master, but it is the crowd who made it possible. Yes, what he did is awful, by all accounts. But you must also point your righteous finger at every person who paid him for his evil deeds. And his successors deeds. Ask your grandparent's about the circus and how they laughed at the funny people. Or even your parents depending on their age.

PT was a showman who gave the people what they wanted. And kept giving it because they kept paying.

[–]InsertAlinaLiOnFace -1 points0 points  (4 children)

You're literally defending a slave owner. I don't even know what more there is to discuss.

[–]col-fancypants 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I'm not defending him, I am saying he made his money in an acceptable way for the time. Name a president before Lincoln who didn't own slaves. Name a famous ruler who didn't have slaves before the 1700's. There is no defense here. I am stating that the fact of the time was slavery was not only accepted, but common. So calling someone who lived in the mid 1800's a slave owner as a negative is like saying everyone who did anything of major importance in the US in that time was the worst kind of person ever.

[–]InsertAlinaLiOnFace -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I am saying he made his money in an acceptable way for the time.

"Totes ok to own slaves cause that's just what everyone did!"

[–]col-fancypants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is a sad and tired spin. Is it okay? No. But most things from the past are not okay.

[–]Huggabutt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Greatest Showman looks like a profoundly shitty movie, but regardless you seem to be doing your best to not actually read what this person is saying, and to willfully misinterpret it as a way to shut down the conversation.

[–]ImSuperObjective2 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yeah, yeah, I know Reddit has a big hard-on for hating Barnum, I get it.

[–]Film27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reddit likes to make stuff up, like Pt barnum being an awful person, Walt Disney now creating Mickey Mouse, and Tonya Harding knowing about everything.

[–]InsertAlinaLiOnFace 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Hey, if you're fine with celebrating slavery and capitalistic endevours built on subjugating and abusing those that can't defend themselves, that's all you man. But let's not pretend like there isn't plenty of reasons to hate Barnum. Like the circus. Fuck that noise.

[–]ImSuperObjective2 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Oh yeah I love celebrating slavery and capitalistic endevours built on subjugating and abusing those that can't defend themselves. Good for you for virtue signaling your contrary ideals by randomly inserting rants about "The Greatest Showman" in a thread about a completely different movie! 👍

[–]Icegyrfalcon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

...they drew a one-sentence comparison to a movie that is out at the same time and is also about a real-life person. That is neither random nor a rant.

[–]andribz -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

didnt know that... thats bad :/

[–]ActivateGuacamole 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is one of my favorite movies from the past year. I really didn't expect to like it as much as I do. I didn't know anything about Tonya or I, Tonya going in, I didn't even know if it was going to be a true story. Even so, I still felt shivers when she called us out in the audience for abuse.

[–]XavierSmart -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

Margot Robbie is great in it, but the movie is extremely messy.

[–]RedditorInCh1ef 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Elaborate on messy, would you?

[–]BluePhire 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I had not even heard of the event before this movie was released, but I am really glad that I saw it. Whether or not Tonya was involved in the crime to a greater extent - it doesn't matter.

The film showed us how strong media manipulation can be. People hated this woman. And yet, as she said in the movie, Nancy got hit once in the knee, big deal; I've been getting hit my entire life. The real victim might not be the one that the news told you about.

[–]PotatoQuie 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Here's a thought, multiple people can be victims in multiple ways.

[–]pantsfish 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Or rather, abuse more often than not creates more abusers

[–]willpenney 14 points15 points  (2 children)

After seeing the movie (loved it by the way), I want to believe she didn't know what was happening... ...but why would she write down Nancy's schedule?

[–]pecklepuff 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is the one point that makes me believe she was in on the planning of the attack, or at least had knowledge of it's planning. For me, that removes some degree of sympathy for her. If it was planned and executed behind her back by people (Gilooly & co) trying to profit off of her olympic fame but then ended up destroying her career, I'd feel terrible for her. It would be too devastating to think about. But no, I think that lone fact points to the strong possibility that she knew about and approved of the hit.

[–]somethingmesomething 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I've read more about her case after watching this and I have to say, the note with Nancy Kerrigan's training facility name, address and when she'd be there in Tonya's handwriting, paired with the "hitmen" being confirmed as staking the place out at that time is a damning piece of evidence. I'd really like to believe there's a good explanation for that because she was so sympathetic otherwise but it doesn't look good.

[–]chihawks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Really enjoyed this movie. Felt really bad for tonya leaving the theater. Margot killed it as well!

[–]theymad3medoit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My favorite movie of the year by a mile.

[–]SgWaterQn 9 points10 points  (0 children)

In the thumbnail, Margot Robbie looks like Joy from My Name Is Earl.

[–]SgWaterQn -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I bought 2 items the other day. My receipt was over a foot long.

[–]jagua_r 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had no prior knowledge about the film whatsoever, nor do I have any interest in skating, but surprisingly I enjoyed the movie a lot. Excellent pacing, and the soundtrack was on-point too.

I didn't know it was a biographical film until I saw the credits with the real skating footage, so instead of seeing Tonya as "villain-turned-human," it actually made me rethink a lot of the plot details and how accurate they were. But then it circles back to the message of the film: how this was Tonya's version of the truth, and nobody else's. Brilliant.

[–]Weep2D2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

screenplay by Captain America

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[–]r0flhouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this soundtrack rivals Forest Gump's. Great movie too.

[–]Warden_de_Dios 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I hate that thumbnail of Robbie doing the Harding face

[–]beebop222222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

looks more like a Harley Quinn impression

[–]DangerBurger -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Harding face?

[–]bitwaba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tonya Harding

[–]Weep2D2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hate that thumbnail of Robbie doing the Harding face

Holy hell it's unsettling.

[–]b00mgoesthedynamit3 9 points10 points  (1 child)

When I was sitting through the end credits for this (very, very good) movie, I saw my cousin's name in the cast list. My cousin was a listed cast member of this movie!

[–]daisygirl117 16 points17 points  (6 children)

Margot Robbie is an absolutely phenomenal actress, especially in this role. You can tell that she throws her absolute heart, soul, and body into every role she plays. She is fully believable and always plays truthful, which is something mainstream hollywood often lacks. Without Margot, this movie would be only "fine". A good movie, but not memorable. She KILLED this role. I loved Lady Bird, but Margot deserves the award for best actress, without a doubt. Incredibly moving performance.

[–]TheTinyTim 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Especially keeping in mind that she produced it also. I admire how much she puts into the projects she's passionate about. You can tell that she's got some good sense about her and isn't just "that hot chick from Wolf of Wall Street".

[–]Kermitcat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Didn't Millie Bobby Brown (the little girl from Stranger Things) just come out as a producer for her Sherlock project?

Maybe it's easier than you think.

[–]TheTinyTim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, Margot started her own production studio and was a producer. That's an enormous difference from being credited as a producer which gets traded, like you said, more easily. I'm impressed because Margot Robbie started her own production company and I'm reasonably certain that this was the first movie they produced and it turned out pretty well.

[–]Yeamf93 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I honestly want her to win the Oscar. Come on!

[–]Film27 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Same. This is her moment. The Academy will find a way to screw it up though.

[–]Yeamf93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't mind it if she loses to Frances, because let's face it : Frances is incredible. In everything. She's a triple threat. But losing to Ronan would piss me off, because between the two of them (Margo and Ronan), Margo was miles better. The role demanded a lot more. I think the Academy realizes that. The Golden Globes might have turned into a political popularity contest for a few years now, but I still feel like they get it right at the Oscars. This year, the best Actress category is the hardest one. I want all of them to win.

[–]thisninjanerd 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I did not expect to be so moved by this movie as I was. The bending of genres was really something - especially taking a dark subject as abuse and making comedic lightness of it. I feel like that made the subject more easily digestible for me while also still telling the story without feeling too manipulative. I really feel for Tonya Harding after this movie and agree with Allison Janey's Golden Globe acceptance speech. This movie made me reconsider the media's narrative (as do recent events) and the disenfranchised. I don't necessarily think Tonya is all the way innocent but I think this movie really showed how complex issues can be distorted into a good and bad narrative in the media. On another note, I'm glad Allison Janey is getting love but wish Margot Robbie got a bit more for her tremendous performance.

[–]mjack421 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That scene where Harding confronts one of the judges is so heartbreaking. Amazing acting.

[–]I_Am_An_OK_Cook 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I kinda hated this, but that wasn't a surprise, I went into it knowing it wasn't my kind of movie, my family wanted to see it and I joined them.

Even from the people I saw it with who enjoyed it though, the consensus was it was too long. They could have trimmed a lot off of this and not really have lost anything. To me it was kinda forgettable. Solid performances all around, the story is exactly what I expected (and I had no idea who Tonya was going in). I'm sure it'll get a bunch of nominations, as it was made to, and then be forgotten in a year or two.

[–]lorduzair 0 points1 point  (6 children)

My expectations for the awards seasons’ releases were not as high as previous ones this year but after watching TBOEM, Lady Bird and this one, I believe this is going to be one of the most competitive award seasons in recent times.

I didn’t know anything about Tonya Harding’s story but it is a bold decision to pick someone who is essentially a villain in public eye and portray her side of the story and do it exceptionally well.

Onto Florida Project next.

[–]TheTinyTim 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Ebbing, Missouri blew me away. That was a masterful display of a black comedy imo. I think Francis McDormand certainly deserved her win after seeing it last night.

I think the best part about this season of award fodder is that all these films are super different from one another. The Post is a classic Oscar film, I, Tonya is a ballsy comedy, 3BBOEM is a scorching black comedy, Ladybird is a very "real" film emotionally and comedically, Call Me By Your Name is a romantic fantasy, and Shape of Water is Guillermo del Toro lol Then Disaster Artist is just a hilarious addition to all of this.

[–]Film27 0 points1 point  (4 children)

What about Molly's Game?

[–]TheTinyTim 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Haven’t seen it yet so I can’t weigh an opinion lol seeing this many movies around Christmas did a dent in my wallet. It good?

[–]Film27 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Jessica Chastain was excellent as always and Aaron Sorkin is a excellent director, his fast paced and zingers are there as well. Aaron Sorkin really brought out the best in Idris Elba. Go see it before it leaves theaters when you get your paycheck tomorrow. lol

[–]TheTinyTim 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hahaha I shall, thanks. See, from the trailer I thought it’d just be one of those forgettable dramas so I didn’t really think it was worth investing $15 in when these other ones were out that I had been dying to see. Think it’s got a shot at Oscar nominations for anything?

[–]Film27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes Best Picture, Best Adapted screenplay and Best Actress.

[–]jasserhere 3 points4 points  (5 children)

One of my favorite movies ever. I really felt for Tonya Harding after watching this.