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[–]Frugelster 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I loved the first Insidious movie, the transitioning to the further it felt like you were there with the character like there is another world of the dead within our world. Just impressive and made me a fan. I had high hopes watching the new movie but it kind of let me down. I felt they threw plots in unnecessary and the further was nothing like the first movie, it was boring.

[–]tosaka88 8 points9 points  (0 children)

had a great start but the ending was just ridiculous and lazily written imo, not a horrible movie but i expected better

[–]Muse777 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't know how people here feel about Insidious 3, but I found it to be very decent, and overall actually pretty scary. Its last shot was so unnecessary and poorly done though. But this one was just bland, at parts cringe worthy, and by far the worst in the series. There were some bits that left me just scratching my head as well. Like, the whole deal with the red bible. They just threw it in there and forgot about it. And how did the whistle come into Imogen's possession in that pivotal scene near the end, where she throws it to Elise? It just came out of nowhere. Stuff like that showed how little care they had put into this one. Bummer, I was a fan of the other three.

[–]TCBrady 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Anyone laugh when they seen the demon from the first film? It looked like a hand puppet or something.

[–]EslamElaraby 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Actually that demon scared me more than the key guy

[–]invoker666 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lowering my expectations before go to cinema and still disappointed after leave the theater. So many pointless scenes, less jump-scare surprises compared to the first three movies, and some parts of the trailer didn't show up (like the faceless girl as far as i remember)? Thankfully Caitlin Gerard makes me survive until the end.

[–]hannahdreads 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Just come back from seeing this film this evening. It wasn’t amazing but it wasn’t terrible either. It has left so many unanswered questions and not in a way. I’m a massive fan of scary films where you don’t actually see what your scared off to this franchise has always been his and miss for me.

  1. Why does the demon have keys for hands and why do they each do different things. There was no actual relevance to this. Why keys in the first place 🤣

  2. Why does the demon want to hold all those people chained up, it never rounded this up, who does he choose and why does he choose them.

  3. Why is this “entity” so weak against the mother when she comes back? Why is she able to just beat it away with a lamp and it’s gone with no fight. Why is the mother so tough? Wouldn’t the demon just push her away and throw her to the floor if he is this mighty powerful entity. I mean he was able to use people as a puppet to get women locked up in that cellar, and was able to make a cable wrap around her neck and kill her at the beginning, so I don’t understand why she was able to beat him away. That scene ended to quick in my opinion.

The jump scares were really good and got you in the right places, just when you think you know somethings going to happen, it happens differently. They got this perfect 👍 it was a good film in general, I just didn’t like the concept of the key man, and lost my fear as soon as I saw his weird hands !

Good film but lots of annoyances! Will still get it on dvd when it’s out though.

[–]aggressiveapple5 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I thought the movie was ok. What I don't understand, though, is that from the minute they meet Elise's boys are flirting with Christian's girls. Is that not incest?

[–]Fresno559 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Those aren’t her kids. They are just ghost hunter guys that teamed up with her

[–]IronGolem_ 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I loved the movie. Loved the comic relief by the sidekicks. But they were a bit rapey which was unsettling. The sidekicks seemed forced into everything. But the movie was genuinely scary and that's what a good horror should be. I feel like the movie was too short and the end felt like the midpoint of the movie. The lead was wonderful and carried the movie. I really hope there is another movie after 2 because that set up so much. Also why didn't the bride in black show up isn't she supposed to be hunting Elise? I feel like that set something up. Also the mom banishing the demon was cliché and shouldn't have killed the demon. The twist was not expected for me and wonderfully executed. People say it wasn't unique but the "the girl is alive in the basement and same in the laundry room" was unique and hasn't been in any of the previous insidious films. 9/10

[–]BlaaackLotus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

THANKS. This film is getting so much hate and people keep telling it was the same as the last ones but it surely wasn't?? Like the girls who seemed dead but weren't were SO good.

[–]MesaIsTheSenate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm getting mixed signals....

[–]dgennwo1 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I've seen all if the movies...question....why is the lipstick demon in 3 of the 4 movies (cameos included)? Is there some crowd or fan base that really wants him to come back to the franchise?

[–]Spikeyroxas 8 points9 points  (0 children)

In the end of the 3rd film the blood faced demon appeared behind alyss.

This is my interpretation of it, the blood faced demon has been following her waiting for her to open the door. The key demon pointed out that alyss has the power to unlock and open all doors to the further, so in that scene in the current film where she was looking for the hospital to send her nieces spirit back to her body she opened the wrong one and entered Daltons house (scene in the attic). However knowing this was her destination she left the room and continued searching for the right door. Now she just left this door open, and as you know in the first film Daltons parents hear him screaming in the attic. So because she didn't close the door I assume the blood faced demon found a target as it was waiting for alyss to make a mistake.

Tdlr: it's alyss fault that Dalton was attacked by the blood faced demon therefore she sealed her fate as the events of the first film lead directly to her death which she foretold in the 3rd film.

I do like the connections to the other films and they make. I think they do them really well.

However there is another scene involving the blood faced demon which hasn't been explained or happened yet. At the end of the second film where alyss spirit is with tucker and specs who are at a clients house, she enters the house to a wheel chair bound woman and as she's trying to talk to her she hears the clicking noise it the bf demon makes as she gets startled and it cuts to black.

You could say this is maybe early concept for the 3rd film which maybe was rewritten to take place in the past as the girl Quinn in the 3rd film is wheel chair bound for alot of it, although is being attacked by another type of demon.

Honestly I didn't like the bf demon, I thought it was a weak pathetic character and preferred the woman In black story (which I'm glad they elaborated on in the second film). Though the fact it has been attached to alyss from the beginning gives it a bit of a more sinister (or Insidious if you will) aspect.

[–]MesaIsTheSenate 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is a lead in to the Dalton case. The reason it was in chapter 3 was because they were not sure at that point if there would be anything else between 3 and 1.

[–]contextualmatt 21 points22 points  (0 children)

[spoiler] Missed opportunity near the end of the film when they are opening doors trying to find their way home. If these red doors are gateways to the physical world, they should have had her open several other doors thus implying:

a) Elise inadvertently released the red face demon on Dalton

b) Elise inadvertently released Parker Crane from the hospital

c) Elise inadvertently opened all these other portals

These other portals would serve for antagonists in sequels w/ new girl as replacement

[–]Michaelphelpsisquick 20 points21 points  (3 children)

Horrible pacing the actual substance of the movie felt like 10 minutes. Relied completely on jump scares for any horror. Predictable tropes, "No I need to do this alone" "Hey we spent money on this you think we'd let you go alone"? The stupid romance angle. Bad bad movie

[–]5GodsDown 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I hate cheap jumpscares. I go to the movies with earplugs because it's too loud and guess what, not so scary anymore, because the sudden loud noise isn't so loud. The first movie was awesome though, a bit more subtle.

[–]Stalked_Like_Corn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

:( This saddens me. 1 was great but I noticed 2 relied more on jump scares than the 1st but was still scary as fuck. I kinda figured it out really early on though (somewhat) but still good. Wife and I are going to watch the third this weekend and we're excited (well, i'm less so now) to see the 4th.

[–]BlaaackLotus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the 4th is pretty good and definitely worth to watch. Don't give up on it already :p

[–]zsquinten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's Robert Shaye's sister. Holy fuck man.

[–]doug 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I think James Wan and Kirk Morri must've been the two keeping Leigh Wannel's shitty writing in check.

The movie was bad. Poor Lin Shaye tried to carry scenes as best she could, but the writing was just so god awful and the humor just so goddamn awkward.

And fuck was up with that shoehorned romance? "Thank you" "Yes." smooch -- Leigh wrote his character into being smooched for no goddamn reason.

LEIGH. IF YOU HAVE YOUR NAME ON A GOOGLE ALERT OR SOMETHING AND EVER SEE THIS: STOP WRITING EXPOSITIONAL SHIT DIALOGUE.

[–]meadowsatsunshine 4 points5 points  (1 child)

They say last, but we know that's not the case. I expect the next one to be an actual sequel to the 1 & 2, unless they opt to keep going back in time, which I doubt.

The question is, who will we be following on this sojourn, and when will it take place? This film seems to set up Imogen as the "new" Elise, and if we return to the girl at the end of 2, Imogen makes the most sense as the protagonist, she has all the "training" she needs and would get some kind of torch passed by helping to defeat/banish Lipstick.

The other option would be going with a "ten years later" setting and following a teenage Dalton once again coming into contact with the Further and developing him into the hero. You could still feature Tucker, Spex, Elise, and Imogen, and if Lipstick returns it would make for an actual, sensible character arc.

I wonder if they are trying to set up the twist that Lipstick is actually Elise, or is going to fall under his sway and need rescued. Time isn't linear in the Further, after all. If they go the Dalton route, something in this vein would make sense, they could tie together most of the dangling plotpoints and questions we have, and make for an interesting examination of demons and hauntings both as actual occurences, and the byproduct of family, memory, and identity. Of course, it will actually just be a bunch of jump scares and lame jokes, but I can dream, yes?

[–]IstyMania 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Elise isn't the lipstick demon wtf

[–]DoctorSteve 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I thought this was the discussion thread of Transformers The Last Knight.

[–]gendabenda 79 points80 points  (1 child)

So, if the old lady hadn't opened all the goddamn doors, Dalton and everyone would have never been visited, and everyone (including her) would still be alive.

This movie should be called "stop opening the goddamn red doors".

[–]tosaka88 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Insidious : The God Damn Red Doors

[–]Regalas 14 points15 points  (5 children)

Having never seen an insidious film before, I thought this wasn't that bad. I didn't like the overuse of jumpscares in the opening scene, but it shifted away from them as the movie went on.

[–]taylorroome 16 points17 points  (3 children)

I highly recommend you watch the first one.

[–]Regalas 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Definitely will give it a shot.

[–]Stalked_Like_Corn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, as others said, this will make a LOT more sense probably if you see them as they're not really one offs. 2 was going to confuse the hell out of you if you didn't watch 1.

[–]jrcprl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And then the 2nd one.

[–]toifeld 30 points31 points  (10 children)

Two fucking prequels? Are you shitting me? What did the old bitch see at the end of I2? A ghost? A demon? Bad housekeeping? A 80 inch flatscreen tv? A Nitendo Switch?

[–]BjuiiBomb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She saw the lipstick demon hence the crackling noise.

That demon better be powerful since it’s been teased for 4 movies. Even though I thought it was already defeated.

[–]5GodsDown 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I like the mystery of the demons not really having a backstory, but that's no excuse for plotholes... After seeing the new movie yesterday I was also wondering about the second movie.

[–]toifeld 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Keep wondering as the studio continues to milk the series for all it's worth

[–]IronGolem_ -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Wait what do you mean at the end of insidious 2

[–]toifeld 5 points6 points  (4 children)

The old woman sees something behind the wheel chair teenager and gasps.

[–]IronGolem_ 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I thought that was the lead up to insidious 3

[–]toifeld 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Insidious 3 is a prequel back when she was still alive

[–]IronGolem_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Well in 3 and post 2 both girls are in wheelchairs. Also Elise died in 2 and went onto heaven

[–]toifeld 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No she did not go into heaven. Apparently she was haunting her two bucddies and ghostly helping them out in their cases

[–]dtlv5813 4 points5 points  (0 children)

a bird? a plane? no, she saw superman!

[–]Groodles 49 points50 points  (14 children)

This movie was... bad. Worst of the Insidious series so far. I saw it last night and I'll just share some random points that have come to mind since:

  • Lin Shaye is a lovable actress and grandmotherly figure whose character is one of the few redeeming aspects of this film. A horror film whos main protagonist is a 74 year-old woman is unique and interesting. She's one of the few people in this film who can actually act. However, even she falls victim to the horrible, horrible writing.

  • The writing is fucking terrible. The dialogue is incredibly forced and unnatural. Many of the actors in the film speak like they're reading off a piece of paper and told to put a dramatic tone on what they're reading. The pacing and order of the story is also poor. I understand that they needed to cut out a lot of parts "to improve the pacing" but it appears to have made it much weaker. The movie was written by Leigh Wannell, whose character, Specs, in the movie was a complete disaster. Let's talk about him:

  • The "Sidekicks" of Lin Shaye, aka Specs and Tucker, are two of the least likable, creepy characters I have come across in a long time. Every line they say is cringeworthy; I understand that many of their dialogue is intended to be cringeworthy, but instead of being portrayed as lovable, nerdy goofballs, I saw them as cripplingly awkward perverts. They are borderline rapey toward Lin Shaye's nieces. The nieces act like it's cute when the 37 year-old stranger man with a mullet tries to kiss them in public, when in reality anyone would feel like they are in physical danger just by fucking looking at Tucker. Specs is particularly unlikable. Fuck that guy so much.

  • Lin Shaye's nieces cannot act. Their characters are the most stock "pretty girls in a horror movie" that I could ask for. I almost fell asleep every time they were on screen. The scene where one of them announces that they can see demons and ghosts too might be one of the most painfully poor deliveries in a movie I have seen in a long time. I hope they never act again.

  • The diner scene is getting a lot of hate in this thread, and rightfully so. It's so fucking painful to watch Lin Shaye approach the random girls in a public place, stare at them, then unleash her rapey sidekicks onto them. How dumb are these girls that they believe this total stranger woman is their aunt, just because she says she is? Their father firmly says that they aren't related! I would believe my father in a heartbeat over some random old woman who "hunts ghosts" and hangs around with those two creeps.

  • Ted Garza being evil was really predictable. But it was an interesting twist that he had a woman in his basement. I actually thought this was a cool and unique twist. I know he's possessed by a demon and all, but Garza is a fucking idiot for having "ghosthunters" come to his house, with investigative equipment and cameras, and expecting them not to find the captive girl in the basement. That annoyed me.

  • Why the FUCK did Specs kill Garza by crushing his head like a grape? He could have just knocked him out!!!! And everyone, including Lin Shaye, acts like this was the only way it could have been done. The fact that Specs is unaffected by being responsible for this gruesome death proves that he is unstable and perhaps the most evil character in this movie. I feel like Wharrell wrote this scene, expecting to make himself look so badass. Garza didn't deserve that.

  • The scene with all the suitcases was genuinely creepy and had me on the edge of my seat. All creepy elements in this movie have to do with the non-supernatural occurrences in this movie involving women being held captive and murdered. It's because this shit can, and HAS, happened in real life. Cliche to say, but the most horrifying demon I can think of is a human.

  • The design of the demon is not scary at all when he is fully revealed. It would have been more creepy to never show the entire demon.

I'm tired of writing, so I'm done. I have much more to say, but it's not worth my time. I just wasted 20 minutes critiquing a shitty movie.

[–]le_munky_face 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Is cringe humour dead? Is depicting an ugly, nerdy man embarassing himself when trying to talk to a woman now "rapey"? What the fuck? Jeez.

[–]PerlaPepperoni 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No it's not dead. But when a stranger tries to kiss someone out of no where after meeting them seconds earlier, I would maybe refer to that as being a bit "rapey", sure. They were more than embarrassing and awkward, they were creepier than the ghosts.

[–]5GodsDown 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I was genuinely shocked when Specs killed the guy. Like... why? He could've known he was possessed, they could've just knocked him out, locked him up and helped him, but no, Specs really just murdered a guy...

I knew the suitcase scene from the trailer, so I was getting ready to be scared, but then nothing happened, Elise turned around and saw a bunch more suitcases and nothing happened until the third or something. I liked that twist, haha!

[–]valkprince 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You should do reviews, every point you made was spot on.

[–]sapandsawdust 8 points9 points  (1 child)

CO-SIGN! Also, how in the fuck - after showing up at a crime scene where a man is dead and a woman has been clearly kept prisoner inside the home - do you question a witness who claims to be a ghost hunter, who then screams in horror at seeing a ghost during questioning, and then you just...let them go? Clearly they wouldn't be a suspect or need a psych evaluation, right?

[–]etr4807 10 points11 points  (2 children)

The "Sidekicks" of Lin Shaye, aka Specs and Tucker, are two of the least likable, creepy characters I have come across in a long time. Every line they say is cringeworthy; I understand that many of their dialogue is intended to be cringeworthy, but instead of being portrayed as lovable, nerdy goofballs, I saw them as cripplingly awkward perverts. They are borderline rapey toward Lin Shaye's nieces. The nieces act like it's cute when the 37 year-old stranger man with a mullet tries to kiss them in public, when in reality anyone would feel like they are in physical danger just by fucking looking at Tucker. Specs is particularly unlikable. Fuck that guy so much.

I personally could not disagree more. To me, Tucker and Specs (along with Lin, obviously) are the best parts of the entire Insidious franchise. They're meant to be awkward cringy comedic relief, and to me they work every single time.

Specs did kill a guy for no reason though.

[–]Malarkay79 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I usually like Tucker and Specs, but the hitting on the nieces thing was a bit much. They seemed too old for them and it was gross.

[–]sethoftheyear 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I agree with OP on that. To me they were creepy, gross, and just plain annoying.

[–]Gotham94 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Only thing I disagree with here is the Garza character was possessed by a demon who wanted Elise there, which is the reason it called her there.

[–]PerlaPepperoni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If he was possessed by a demon and that's the reason he called Elise over, then why was he acting like he was going to shoot himself when he got caught??!?@??@?!

[–]kue101 8 points9 points  (1 child)

The two young girls are Lin Shaye's nieces, not granddaughters. They are the daughters of Lin Shaye's brother.

[–]Groodles 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You’re right. I’ll make the correction

[–]Haloid91 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I saw this movie. It's by far the worst Insidious movie they have come out with. One the plus side a horror movie being carried by a 70 year old woman is kind of awesome.

[–]Syncite 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Should've went to karaoke instead of paying to watch this.

[–]heinousSavage 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Movie is cringey af with very poor writing and acting. Had an interesting plot twist but was still poor and unbearable to watch. The jump scares were predictable and the level of imagination was that of a 12 year old.

[–]moorethanafeeling 13 points14 points  (0 children)

hits blunt

Bro, you know how your mom says she'll fight off whatever's under the bed at night?

What if she actually fought off a demon ghost thing for you?

[–]mdgraller 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Last

Doubt it

[–]honoraryamerican 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Darn new to Reddit and just saw this banner up top now. Asked the question in the general movies section. Most seem negative towards this movie. A shame if it isn't up to par.

[–]violentpoem 38 points39 points  (2 children)

After Insidious 1:

"hey this low budget film is a critical and financial success!"

"woah really? awesome! time to milk it dry!"

Hollywood probably

[–]kharlos 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile episode 9 is in the writing as well as a Hans Solo prequel coming out soon and fans are screeching that they aren't getting enough promotional material.

Horror invented the endless sequel. Sure it's not for everyone but it's a bit late to start singling out a small horror flick for pumping out sequels when something like 98% of 2017 blockbusters did the exact same thing.

[–]Olivesandbullshit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I thought Patrick Wilson was a badass for not wanting to do the 3rd cus the story was already told. Then again he's in that train Neeson not Denzel movie right now.

[–]kleptophobiac 15 points16 points  (4 children)

I know most movies have scenes from the previews that don't actually make it to the actual film, but come on.

[–]jrcprl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A Paranormal Activity 3 case...

[–]mikeweasy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That was a scene I really wanted to see.

[–]sensualpredator3 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Just re-watched the trailer now that I've seen the movie. Wow, you weren't wrong.

[–]ElliottAbusesWomen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What scenes in the trailer weren’t in the movie? I just watched it and nothing jumped out at me but I did fall asleep four or five times during the movie.

[–]Manjimutt 7 points8 points  (10 children)

Can we get an insidious 5 to follow up 2 and then end it? It's alright but Leigh Whannell can write much better than this.

[–]Superdudeo 4 points5 points  (9 children)

The finished version was changed from Leigh Whannell's script so not entirely fair to blame him.

[–]doug 1 point2 points  (8 children)

He was the sole writer and had an executive producer credit on this one-- who else is there to blame? I'm genuinely curious/open to hear more there. My wife and I think he's only good when he's got James Wan and Kirk Morri (editor) to keep his expositional writing in check. We also put too much thought into James Wan horror films and want to like every milked crap that comes out of his Insidious & Conjuring franchises, but they're noticeably worse whenever he's not involved.

[–]Superdudeo 1 point2 points  (7 children)

The script was leaked. The director changed elements of the story which is apparently very obvious even if you didn’t know this as the trailer has loads of scenes not seen in the final cut among other signs.

[–]jrcprl 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Care to summarize?

[–]Superdudeo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The script?

[–]jrcprl 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean, what are the main differences between the script and the final film

[–]doug 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Gotcha. I only saw the trailer once months ago, after that I make the same effort I do with every trailer for movies I'll want to see-- to avoid it/plug my ears and shut my eyes anytime the trailer comes back around so I forget any spoilers it might've had.

It's a shame they changed stuff around at the last minute/did reshoots. I thought Hollywood was in agreement that leaked scripts don't affect the box office enough to warrant pulling stuff like that/I've only ever seen that decision result in a net loss.

[–]Superdudeo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I don’t think they care about leaked scripts but the director must have felt something wasn’t right and probably made the wrong call considering he’s a newcomer. It’s a shame.

[–]doug 1 point2 points  (1 child)

...but he did The Taking of Deborah Logan... which was one of the only found-footage horror films I've ever seen to actually give me some chills :(

Oh well.

[–]Superdudeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes my friend says that was good. I think getting horror right is much harder than it seems but James Wan seems to be the one getting it right every time. I still haven't seen The Last Key, my enthusiasm is not there after the 3rd one but I look forward to seeing it on Bluray.

[–]GusFringus 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Insidious: The Last Key felt like one of the laziest and by the numbers horror film in recent memory. Just nothing but sequences of drama with terrible dialogue interspersed with scenes of people walking around dark houses. Lin Shaye does a good job when she doesn't need to speak, thanks to the dialogue, but all of the other performances are awful. It's not scary, or suspenseful. Just incredibly dull and forgettable.

[–]baconbroth 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Totally agree with you. This movie was just boring...there was not many quality scares and they did not do a good job maintaining suspense and dread throughout the film, which is what good horror movies do. Still have no idea what the key demon's goals were and what opening the doors actually meant.

[–]MidEastBeast777 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yup, when it ended i asked my buddy what was the plot or story, we both just looked at each other in confusion.

[–]Rambo1stBlood 5 points6 points  (2 children)

This movie is one of those movies where I just don't get what they were trying for. Who saw the original Insidious or the followups and went "Oh I want more of that old lady! She is clearly the main feature!"

Like...What? Who is this movie even for?

[–]Haloid91 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Actually Lin Shaye's character is one the main appeals in the insidious movies for me. I wouldn't have minded more of her or more movies about her character if they had been well written.

[–]Nickbotic 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Same, I totally admire the fact that they built the franchise off of a character that died in the first installment, needless to say a woman in her mid-70's. The first Insidious is, without a doubt, the scariest movie I've ever seen. And I've seen pretty much every findable horror movie of the last three decades, good, bad, and ugly. I know not many people would agree with me on that sentiment, but that movie really creeped me out to my core. I was hoping this one would be comparable to at the the third one, which I thought was a surprisingly solid effort. All well!

I got off track, but yeah, Lin Shaye was the best route they could have taken in continuing the series, even if the films themselves aren't that great. I also thought that making this film line up with the events of the original, it limited them for future installments, but then again, that might not be a bad thing.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

i saw this image while browsing another thread and legit thought the old woman was dustin hoffman in some sort of comedy

[–]hutchcoin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

oh shit...I didn't see that til I saw your comment ha!

[–]yatcho 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This one was just so extremely lame, it felt super brief with very little conflict. It felt like an episode of Supernatural.

[–]MrProfessionalism 5 points6 points  (2 children)

After the events in the previous film, Elise Rainier goes on to investigate the recent supernatural disturbances occurring in a family's home in New Mexico, a house in which she used to live in her youth, diving her deeper into The Further. The film starts in 1953, during Elise's childhood.

Elise sees a flashback of running down a hallway, with some demonic demon after her, screaming in a raspy voice, "You will get it... you will lose one of your most prized possessions."

The next day she opens the fridge to find no cupcakes, one of her most prized possessions. This was one of her most traumatic moments of her childhood.

Her childhoods builds on and on, showing why she chose to become a demonologist (one who studies demons) over a dermatologist (what I need) and trigoligist (one who studies trigology, the art of triggering). The main reason is for her stolen cupcakes.

Know we enter back into the present and Elise learning that know her childhood house is haunted... this time, it's worse than just a cupcake... pies, turkeys, cakes, honey, sugar, and coffee are all disappearing. You can see a real fat demon in the reflection of the fridge door and burning cake keeps on coming out of the oven (because the demon doesn't know how to bake).

Elise decides to end this once and for all, calling upon Naruto for she knows that he knows the power of ramen because he appreciates it. Together they search for clues to lead who this food stealing demon is until Naruto realizes that the ramen has been stolen and his heart has been broken. Then, he leaves to go on an epic quest to make some more ramen (or better yet, find a store with really good ramen), thus leaving Elise alone and hungry (though there's a McDonalds 2 blocks away).

A couple days later she meets up with Naruto again who has found more food to stock up the fridge. They decide to put a camera to see who steals the food. At last they caught the demon face to face. "Never will you see your food again," he said sinisterly. Elise and Naruto find out that his name is Obese Demon. All of a sudden, the demon gets shot by an unknown. Both Elise and Naruto turn around to see Justin Bieber with a gun. "Never, say never."

Justin, Naruto, and Elise celebrate their success over the Obese Demon by eating food but still making sure to leave some in the fridge, ending the movie with a happily ever after, until Naruto realizes that there is an unknown evil going through the worlds of anime, also known as Sasuke Uchiha...

[–]Groodles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

are you t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m?

[–]mdgraller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still a better love story than Twilight Insidious: The Last Key except you really should've started calling her Elsa half way through

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (4 children)

first one is only one that was 'scary', others are just for the plot

[–]TeamDonnelly 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I haven't seen this one yet but i remember the sequel used jumpscares constantly which was a let down as the original used film techniques to scare the audience. Ex - leather jacket ghost walking into the nursery from the balcony.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

the sitting at the table scene in the first one still gets me

[–]Hiimacosmocoin 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Not seeing the darth maul itself was scarier. Like when it was just the shadow with the claw in the nursery, that was terrifying.

Once it started listening to Tiny Tim and sewing a new pair of socks for the boy, it just couldn't be scary anymore.

[–]Nickbotic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know I'm probably alone in this, but the first Insidious is the scariest movie I've ever seen, and I've made it a point over the last 15 or so years to see every possible horror movie I can find. It was so masterfully done. Thank goodness for James Wan not wanting to be associated with torture porn forever, otherwise we'd have never gotten Insidious in the first place! It's too bad the series went so far downhill with this latest installment. I was actually pleasantly surprised with Chapter 3, I thought it was surprisingly well done, especially after the second one had the problems it had.

[–]o2i34e[🍰] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Saw this last night, it was so boring that a couple people actually fell asleep in the theater.

[–]syldavian_GI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol I did

[–]yatcho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was dozing in and out til after their first investigation, turns out i didnt really miss anything important

[–]Jigsaw-Complex 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I want to call it now: For the 5th entry in the series, they're going to re-hash the first movie, and make it to where Elise doesn't die. Some Further trickery is going to happen, and it's going to cause some bad crap to happen for entry 6.

[–]best-cosplayer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the finger key hand is so cool . i want to hand made one .

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[–]Calm_Memories 18 points19 points  (6 children)

I just want more Lin Shaye being badass and motherly. Sadly the franchise shot themselves in the foot with their own timeline of events but if there's a fifth movie and Shaye is in it, I'll happily go see it. The movie was better than the second but not as good as the first or third. All in all my opinion may have been better had it not been for the annoying group of friends who kept laughing and screaming next to my seat.

[–]ciberaj 6 points7 points  (5 children)

You liked the third? wow.

[–]austine567 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I liked it a lot more than 2. I watched all 3 in release order one day and the third was a lot better to me.

[–]Nickbotic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed, I was definitely pleasantly surprised by the third one.

[–]ciberaj 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I also watched them all in one day and I have to say the third one felt waaay different than the first two. First, because it didn't have good actors carrying the movie, Lin Shaye wasn't enough since she wasn't that prevalent in the movie. Second, the writing was awful, that whole "Come on, bitch" was incredibly cringeworthy and so out of character for Lin, who always seemed calm and collected and in control of situations.

[–]-negative_creep- 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Strong agree. I'd put them in order best to least favorite as 1-2-4-3. I just watched them all for the first time within the last 48 hours. All in all I had a good time with them. But 3 just felt sort of out of place.

[–]ciberaj 5 points6 points  (0 children)

All in all I had a good time with them.

Exactly, overall, I had lots of fun and I'd definitely recommend watching them all.

[–]immrdavis7 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Was not my favorite Insidious, it disappointed me a little. I felt like the main entity was not focused on/given much spotlight out of the previous ones. The red mask man still is a mystery, I wish this one would have touched on him a bit. It also seemed like it just was a quick film and just got into the nitty gritty too fast.

Edit: I liked how the first movie came into play at the- I did not hate the movie, I enjoyed it (not as much as the others), but I was just disappointed.

[–]austine567 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You thought it was too quick? Everything seemed so slow and boring in this one to me.

[–]immrdavis7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I meant the actual film seemed quick (felt like the movie was shorter than it actually was). There were not many scenes that I enjoyed, it was very bland and predictable; so I do agree with it being boring

[–]themotherflicker 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I thought it was horrible.

Lin Shaye was the only good thing about this because everything was just bad. The scares were uninspired, the comedic relief was cringe-worthy, and the final confrontation was lame.

It also didn't help that there were a bunch of teenage girls in my theater that screamed at every jump scare.

[–]annarborjack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this film and the last one were both "just ok." They for sure need to end the franchise with one more movie that brings back James Wan.

[–]httr1328 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Felt like it was missing 30 minutes of exposition about el villain that would have made me care.

[–]etr4807 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I didn't really think this movie was that bad, or that good, it was just sort of there, much like Insidious 3.

1 and 2 got me hooked on this series, but they haven't done a very good job of following it up.

[–]Nickbotic 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I thought the third was much better than the second. I thought that for a prequel, choosing to further develop Elise was a smart route. The third one, to me, just seemed very polished and it had a real focus to it. But that's just me! Different strokes.

But with regards to this one, I definitely agree with you, it wasn't horrible, but it wasn't incredible. It was just kind of...there.

[–]etr4807 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Personally I thought 2 was just as good as 1, but I'm also a sucker for the tie-in stuff that they did all throughout 2.

I even liked the minimal amount of it they did in 4, although it seemed highly unnecessary.

[–]Nickbotic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don't get me wrong, I loved that the second one expanded the lore and mythology of the first. That aspect was awesome, I too am a sucker for world-building. That first one though, it was just so masterfully done. The use of noise was perfect. It's the scariest movie I've ever seen. I know that's not a common sentiment, but man that movie got to me.

[–]WitherWithout 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Everything was okay except for that ONE PUUUNCH into the demon with a fucking lantern.

I was waiting for Elise to take that crowbar thing and whack it into oblivion.

The demon looked too much like the thing from Sinister except more CGI so it was off-putting.

I liked seeing Elise's childhood and I think seeing her in her early 20's battling demons would be a cool film/TV idea.

I think the Insidious series should really be done though. The first 2 are some of my favorite horror films, but the 3rd and 4th are severely lacking.

[–]sarmiento_hmr 47 points48 points  (2 children)

only 7 days in but "she's psychic, we're sidekick" might win worst line of 2018

[–]ebolasupermonky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is that what he was saying? I thought it was "she's pshychic, we're psychic". This makes more sense

[–]ObnoxiousSeizures 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Don't get me wrong, the movie was shit, but I'm pretty sure that part was intentionally horrible

[–]DrewTan91 24 points25 points  (4 children)

Was alright until the end. Hype built for a demon that could open all red doors and we get no other entities or demons but him in the Further and gets owned by spirit mama.

Seems like they want to set up future movies using Imogen since Elise is dead from the first and making more prequels would just be milking the franchise too much.

Enjoyed it as a fan but can't see this being a hit with first timers to the franchise.

[–]DonnieDarkoRabbit 9 points10 points  (1 child)

since Elise is dead from the first and making more prequels would just be milking the franchise too much.

I hoped that they would continue the franchise with Elise's ghost helping people from beyond? I mean, the second film left us with a paralyzed girl being visited by Lipstick Face Demon. I assume that the series can continue from there?

[–]DrewTan91 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ya for sure. Shes been carrying the insidious franchise on her back since the first. But maybe just as an advisor/mentor to Imogen and guiding her.

[–]mikeweasy 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Saw it earlier, it was alright definitely my least favorite of the series. Shaye was the best part as were Whannel and Sampson. The demon was stupid and it was defeated way to easily. I hope this is the last one this franchise has run its course.

[–]Anonymously-Used 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Who's idea was it to making it as simple as showing the demon a fucking lantern to make it whoosh into the abyss?

[–]KimH2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I assumed it was supposed to be 'symbolism'... that since it fed on hate/violence the mother's pure love whooped its ass

but that is such a face value/boring resolution to what seemed like an (in theory) huge threat in this universe

[–]mikeweasy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol yeah

[–]StarDestinyGuy 35 points36 points  (3 children)

The final fight with the demon is one of the funniest things I've seen in a movie in a long time

[–]PaulAtreidesIsEvil 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Lol can you describe it? I'm prolly not gonna pay to watch it in theaters

[–]NekkidJayBird 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Green Lantern comes in out of nowhere and punches the demon into fucking oblivion.

[–]mikeweasy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah LOL

[–]StarDestinyGuy 67 points68 points  (3 children)

The dialogue is cringeworthy levels of bad in this movie

[–]aaj213 62 points63 points  (1 child)

That. Entire. Scene. Where. She. Meets. The. Kids. At. The. Diner.

God, that was hand-wringingly awful

[–]Superdudeo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What's even more cringeworthy is when.you.write.like.this.

[–]mikeweasy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah

[–]StarDestinyGuy 48 points49 points  (14 children)

Remember that scene from the trailer where all those weird looking people came out of doors at the same time in the hallway, and then the weird bald creature pointed and said "this way"?

It happens at 1:38 in this trailer:

https://youtu.be/acQyrwQyCOk

None of that happens in the movie.

[–]rrustko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its the alternate ending... You can see it in the bluray version

[–]nicknacc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also the great sound effect of her screaming but it's muted like shes underwater was replace by GENERIC EAR RINGING NOISE. So lame. The whole movie would have better better if they used the gimmick of her being mute more, at least at all. Wasted potential.

[–]Schilvagg 15 points16 points  (4 children)

I think that using material that's not in the movie should not be allowed to be used in the advertising of the movie.

Scene X is not in the film? Don't put it in the fucking trailers. Similarly, combining completely unrelated shots to falsely hint at an event in the film that doesn't happen is also obnoxious.

[–]jrcprl 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It's so infuriating, it happened with Paranormal Activity 3 and I was pissed when I went to see it and nearly 90% of the scenes from the trailer weren't shown... the whole plot was changed.

[–]JakeyG14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aw, man. That was really bad (good because it worked?) advertising.

I remember an exorcist getting his head slammed on the table. That scene looked amazing, then it wasn't there!

[–]Schilvagg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah. You go like "I didn't pay to see this film"

[–]Nickbotic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

People have sued film studios for exactly this, putting things in trailers that don't appear in the films themselves. It's essentially false advertising. I couldn't tell you the results of those lawsuits (although I could guess the plaintiffs didn't win), but I totally agree, it's complete bullshit.

[–]mikeweasy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was looking forward to that scene.

[–]zzzzz94 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Did Darth maul attack again

[–]StarDestinyGuy 41 points42 points  (4 children)

He pops up for a second to say hi to the audience

[–]moviesarealright 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I saw a screening back in the summer and I haven't been able to check it out again this week. I remember seeing him in a quick shot where he was on a TV in the background. Did you or anyone else notice that? Just curious if anything changed

[–]Anonymously-Used 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I didn't notice it. I'm kinda sad he didn't make a larger appearance. He was what made the original scary. I want to see another movie with him as the main demon, he makes me scared just thinking about him and I dont know why.

[–]moviesarealright 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I'm with you 100%. But I love this series so I will continue seeing them all. But I have a feeling the next one will have him in it a lot more and will be a sequel to the 2nd movie to complete the Lambert trilogy. But honestly who knows.

[–]DonnieDarkoRabbit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, the Lamberts should be left out of future films. It's bad enough that they cast someone in this film who looked like Rose Byrne.

[–]StarDestinyGuy 10 points11 points  (1 child)

If you simply want to be repeatedly startled by jump scares, and don't care how good the actual movie is, you'll enjoy Insidious: The Last Key

[–]Schilvagg 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Doesn't that describe like 90% of all the 'horror' that's made nowadays?

[–]ckypro3 11 points12 points  (2 children)

This was definitely a movie best enjoyed having seen all the previous entries in the series. That being said I had alot of fun with it. Yes like 90% of the scares were jump scares, but there were a couple really well done creepy scenes and the design of the demon was really great. The story was definitely interesting and some clunky dialogue here and there didn't ruin it for me. I also really liked how they showed the connection to the first movie. Overall i' d rank it above chapter 3 and below chapters 1 and 2. Maybe like a 6.5/10.

[–]Nickbotic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I mostly agree with your assessment, except with your ranking of all the chapters. For me, It would go 1, 3, 4, 2. But yeah, I personally don't think it was as bad as most people are saying.

[–]ckypro3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i definitely think 3 was way better than most give it credit for and it was probably scarier than 2 or 4, i just happened to like the timeline stuff in those better personally. but 3 should be commended for giving us this poster

[–]drflanigan 33 points34 points  (2 children)

What happened to the scene in the trailer with all the cells opening and the fucked up looking ghost saying "this way".

And I really wish Elise would use her powers more. We know that spirits can fight each other when the mom bitchslaps the key-mon with the lantern.

When Elise opened the cell with her powers I thought she was about to throw down with that toothy bitch but instead just got throat locked.

Speaking of throat locking, what was the point of that? I figured they would need to get the keys back to unsilence them but it never happened.

This movie was a mess. Still an okay watch, but it wasn't great.

[–]Soulreaper31152 12 points13 points  (1 child)

This article should explain
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1768910/one-cut-insidious-the-last-key-scene-sounds-terrifying

Basically it didn't go well with the pacing

[–]ElliottAbusesWomen 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Because the end result was a masterclass in how to pace a movie....

[–]20_Antzy_Pantzy_15 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just though it was okay. I never saw the other Insidious (besides the original) which might be the reason that I didn't completely enjoy it.

I don't expect much from these movies anymore, but it really felt like the filmmakers just shot a bunch of stuff and then said "fuck it, we will fix it in post". The multiple twist could have worked, but they just lead to more questions. Like how the fucked did the father have time to kidnap women without his children knowing? Seriously, this movie is poorly written. The dialogue sounds like something you would read and doesn't feel natural. The two sidekick characters were extremely annoying and creepy. The list goes on and on. It didn't even feel scary or fun even if it was poorly written. It just not a movie worth the time unless you enjoyed the other films.

It's not dumpster fire bad, it's more like 'meh'.

[–]tjflyers22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Worst of the franchise. Cool creature design though

[–]Shebadue 9 points10 points  (0 children)

With all the surprisingly good horror prequels and sequels, the universe had to even it out.

[–]etr4807 27 points28 points  (7 children)

Specs killed a guy!

[–]Manjimutt 10 points11 points  (0 children)

With no repurcussions at all

[–]baronspeerzy 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Totally didn't need to either. Specs will merc ya just cause he feels like it.

[–]KelseyAnn94 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Well I mean that guy was trying to kill him. What was he supposed to do?