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80 points · 5 months ago

And yet, the Republicans have failed to make abortion illegal. At best, they've made it inconvenient and humiliating.

If I voted along single issue lines my entire life, and the party I voted for hadn't acted on that issue, I'd probably look elsewhere.

level 2
20 points · 5 months ago

Apparently people vote Republican expecting them not to do what they promised

level 3

To be honest, I don't think Republican leaders actually want abortion to be illegal. If you make it illegal, you lose a lot of voters who now identify with none of their platform. They have to keep it legal to maintain those voters.

level 4
3 points · 5 months ago

And if you make it illegal then it'll be more difficult and expensive for them to pay abortions for their mistresses.

level 4

That’s a bingo

level 3
6 points · 5 months ago

Republicans really are the perfect voting base. Fucking idiots.

level 2
6 points · 5 months ago

This is the strongest point regarding abortion. Republican voters are very passionate about this (regardless of motive or morality), and yet the super-majority will do nothing to deliver on it despite it being the biggest reason most of them were elected. It's this inaction that sways single-issue voters from being party-centric.

if you connect the dots for them in their own terms, they won't refute the evidence because they know you're right in a deep and personal way.

"Why keep voting for Republicans if they don't deliver on what they promised? There's no reason they can't get it done, there's no one standing in their way. They haven't done anything because they simply don't care about saving babies like you do. They know that if they went out and actually did make abortion illegal, they couldn't count on your sympathy for children to guarantee them your vote. It's the easiest vote to get, they only have to say they're pro-life and not actually BE pro-life. You'll vote red for life if abortion never gets addressed. And they know that. Maybe you should vote based on more than one issue."

level 3

That's quite an interesting take on it. Like the pest exterminator that leaves a breeding pair to keep himself in a job.

level 3

I’d vote against abortion if we had a considerably strong social safety net. Until we do I’m not going to subject a child to a lifetime of poverty and neglect.

level 2

At best, they've made it inconvenient and humiliating.

Actually, a lot of the latest issues is that they also made it perfectly legal to compete with abortion clinics and pretend to be health clinics but actually just try to convince the woman not to abort. As long as they don't actually offer "medical" advice, they can give any kind of advice they want.

level 2
4 points · 5 months ago

"The definition of insanity..."

level 2

They don’t want it to be illegal, they want to hurt women on behalf of richwhite hatechristians, and have a battle to fight that gets morons out to vote.

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