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5.3k points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

It's for real. Here's the video of his statement. And, a transcription:

You can call it anything you want. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what you call it. It used to be the G8, because Russia was in it, and now Russia's not in it. Now... I love our country. I have been Russia's worst nightmare. If Hillary got in I think Putin's probably going "Man, I wish Hillary won" because you see what I do. BUT, with that being said; Russia should be in this meeting. Why are we having a meeting without Russia being in the meeting? And I would recommend - and it's up to them - but Russia should be in the meeting, it should be a part of it. Yaknow, whether you like it or not - and it may not be "Politically Correct", but we have a world to run. And in the G7 - which used to be the G8 - they threw Russia out. They should let Russia come back in, because we should have Russia at the negotiating table.

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BONUS: Trump saying he'll probably pull the USA out of NAFTA, which I transcribed below as well:

Trump: We're going to deal with the unfair trade practices. If you look at what Canada, Mexico, the European Union, all of them have been doing to us for many, many decades - we have to change it, and they understand it's going to happen.

Reporter: What are you going to do if they form an agreement without you?

Trump: We are going to do very well. Now, if we're unable to make a deal we'll terminate NAFTA, we'll have a better deal. If we're unable to make a deal we'll be better off. Right now we are not going to live with the deals the way they are. European Union treats us very unfairly, Canada - very unfairly, Mexico - very unfairly. With that being said, I think we'll very probably - very easily - make a deal.

Gonna post this in a couple spots so that people see it. Sorry for the repost if you've already seen it; I just wanted to make sure other people do.

I have been Russia's worst nightmare.

Lmfao

545 points · 1 month ago

That's the line where I had to stop and laugh/cry for a second. Like... really? In what way has he been their worst nightmare? God damn why do people believe these outright lies?

233 points · 1 month ago

They have trolls and right wingers pointing out areas where the US military didn't bend the knee as proof of how Donald is super tough on Russia. It's laughable but it's also corrosive over time.

Pointing to things that were predictable at the time would be used in just that way. We all knew what the strikes in Syria were for once we learned trump called Putin beforehand to tell him where we were going to strike so he and Assad could move everything.

Montana
15 points · 1 month ago

Or when we expelled their "diplomats" but didn't reduce their overall staffing levels, allowing immediate replacement.

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yeah!! like it didn't get as much media play as the initial strikes themselves but wasn't Assad using the airfield again within like a week or two?

Nvm, it was like 24 hours after. LOL. http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/07/assad-shrugs-off-trumps-strike-uses-just-hit-airbase-to-bomb-rebels/

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Oregon
5 points · 1 month ago

'Tell me how Trump has not been the TOUGHEST president on Russia in the last TWENTY years of american presidents?'

-Trump supporters, I'm sure

He's absolutely insane. He is incapable of viewing the world objectively and truly believes that anything he says just is so because he says it. It doesn't matter what objective reality is. He also has a seriously unhealthy obsession with reliving the 2016 election. Our president has severe personality disorders

Illinois
45 points · 1 month ago

He also has a seriously unhealthy obsession with reliving the 2016 election.

For the same reason he talks about The Apprentice so often: a guy who habitually twists any outcome into a victory automatically devalues actual successes, so the few wins he actually has need extraordinary puffing up.

His biggest achievement is and will always be: actually winning the election.

I'm not sure it's an achievement when A.) he lost the popular vote by 3+ million, and B.) was aided by a hostile foreign power to steal the election.

I'd argue his true achievement may ultimately be destroying the GOP as we know it, and uniting liberals and progressives.

Most of his success and accomplishment has been built around fraud and selfishness. That said, this is his greatest accomplishment in that context. Since he has almost no self awareness (funny how a narcissist isn't self-aware, isn't it?) and has no shame, this, to him, is a great success he is proud of.

"Pride is at the bottom of all great mistakes." - John Ruskin

6 points · 1 month ago

You forgot the most bizarre C) at the start probably wasn't planning on winning

I'd argue his true achievement may ultimately be destroying the GOP as we know it, and uniting liberals and progressives.

I'd argue he does whatever Putin wants him to

He lives and has always lived in a bubble. The crazy part is that a large amount of our citizenry have decided that they want to live in that bubble too.

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10 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

He just says it and my parents, boomers... believe it. He doesn't lie. When people call things out, it's just liberal tears.

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He has stated himself that all he has to do is say something and his followers will eat it up.

Notice that he didn’t provide any substance as to why Russia should be in this meeting? He just said they should be in the meeting over and over. Now his voters will inexplicably believe Russia should b in the meeting.

These people hate being called stupid but look at this shit.

He did say why Russia should be there, though. Because it used to be the G8. But now there's only 7.

To be fair, IIRC in the steele dossier there were notes that the Russians were worried that they'd bitten off more than they could chew and their strategy was backfiring on them. They get the benefits of having a president who sucks Putin's dick, but they're being viewed with a lot more hostility by the rest of the country than they were previously. In the long run there's a very good chance it backfires on them once the next president comes in.

That's one reason I'm very worried about the next election. Even in the event Trump doesn't try to rig/cancel the election himself, you can bet that Putin's going to be suggesting to him that he should do it, and the russians will go act behind the scenes themselves if he doesn't play ball.

15 points · 1 month ago

The only two things he's done that could be seen as negative towards Russia are:

  1. The missile strikes in Syria may have killed Russian mercenaries--but that's unconfirmed.

  2. He eventually signed the sanctions package that Congress passed last year, but he sat on them for about 6 months before he did it. Presumably to give Russia time to prepare to minimize the damage.

California
18 points · 1 month ago

He told Putin about the Syrian strikes before they happened, and two, the sanctions still haven't been implemented.

He told Putin about the Syrian strikes before they happened

Which, to be fair, was the correct course of action since it was not an action against Russia. But yeah, you really have to stretch to try to find things he's done negatively to Russia, and continuing a pre-existing military campaign and striking one of their allies is about as close as you can get.

Nebraska
11 points · 1 month ago

He eventually signed the sanctions package that Congress passed last year, but he sat on them for about 6 months before he did it. Presumably to give Russia time to prepare to minimize the damage.

He never actually enacted them. People seem to be mixing up him enacting the sanctions on the 13 Russians Mueller indicted with the sanctions package Congress signed.

The former is something he enacted, the latter is something he still hasn't done.

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Oregon
3 points · 1 month ago

He's talking to his base. And to his boss (Putin). You and I are meaningless, and mean absolutely nothing when he's speaking.

3 points · 1 month ago

And the worst part is if you call him out a bunch of R voters will call you an elitist snowflake and your outrage is the reason why he won.

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Foreign
21 points · 1 month ago

I guess 2016 is ancient times to a Trump supporter:

>Hillary is going to start WW3 with Russia. Why shouldn't we be friendly with Russia? We don't want war!

And within two years, the line is the total opposite. Now Trump is Russia's worst nightmare? This facade is so easy to see through it's maddening that ~40% of America are convinced by it.

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New York
16 points · 1 month ago

Russia's worst nightmare is apparently a president who refuses to impose sanctions on them that his own congress overwhelming voted in favor of.

One.. one fucking example.

"After I asked Putin where I was allowed to bomb in Syria, I never even said thank you after he told me I could shoot a few rockets at empty buildings there"

Trump explaining how he is Russias worst nightmare.

The Donald hasn't (yet) allowed Putin to re-annex Alaska in exchange for a few new Trump properties being allowed to open in Russia. Therefore, the Donald is Russia's "worst nightmare" I guess???

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I have been Russia's worst nightmare.

From the man who refused to implement sanctions that went through with a veto-proof majority. Fuck this guy.

253 points · 1 month ago

I still don't get how that is not a constitutional crisis

It is, but there's nothing we can do about it.

Those who's job it is to enforce the constitution are letting it burn.

Vote them all out this November, before they destroy whats left of this country.

42 points · 1 month ago

The people are the last system of checks and balances. Time to do our jobs

Notably, when democracy fails the founding fathers advocated violence.

Putin's wet dream

We're fd

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Washington
14 points · 1 month ago

That goes for every country (cough Ontario election). Comey has already warned Canada will be a next target https://globalnews.ca/news/4255411/canadas-2019-election-russian-hacking-comey/

7 points · 1 month ago

I don't even want to blame Russia for ours tbh. Until proven otherwise, this is just on us. Makes sense imo, Wynne depressed voter enthusiasm on the left twice as hard as Clinton might have.

Now if someone were to report that her unpopularity stemming from social media stories being shared had been amplified by Russian vectors of disinfo, I would not be thoroughly surprised. I don't think it's a matter of confusion though, which is what they like to capitalize on

Idk we shall see what the future holds

same on Russia--they may have contributed to and enflamed something that was already there, but we've been sick for a while.

3 points · 1 month ago

hell, same with trump even. idk if characterizing him as the rights' frankenstein's monster is fair, but he is certainly just the logical conclusion (hopefully? i mean it sure could go farther lol) of existing trends

DONT JUST VOTE. Volunteer your time and money between now and then. Make phone calls. Knock on doors. I know we are all busy, but maybe play a little less video games on the weekend and make your voice heard. And I don't care if your district is solid blue. There are purple districts nearby. I live in downtown Chicago but just signed up to drive people to the polls in Paul Ryan's district. THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY IS LITERALLY AT STAKE.

Voting is the literal least you can do. Please do more if you can.

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California
40 points · 1 month ago

So was the emoluments clause from day one of Trump's presidency.

The Constitutional crisis started when Mitch McConnell decided he was going to ignore the constitution to obstruct Obama instead because he hated him and democrats so much.

It's a constitutional crisis because one of the branches that is supposed to oversee the other two is blatantly in collusion with one of them.

The legislative branch has not been a check on the executive for the last 10 years. It was first an obstructionist branch, and now it's just a rubber stamp and shield for the executive.

5 points · 1 month ago

There are loopholes that Trump is using to legally delay the sanctions. He's definitely doing shady shit, but constitutional crisis is hyperbole.

The bill implied that the white house had to investigate whether they had done anything wrong to implement sanctions, and they had a deadline to find something. The deadline came, the white house kept saying "Well we havent found anything russia did to be wrong!" and so they didn't implement the sanctions.

Basically the bill was "we want to put sanctions on russia, give us a report on what they did wrong so we can implement the sanctions" and they never found anything wrong, which obviously they did do stuff wrong, but the white house isn't gonna fucking investigate it honestly.

That is why. Its technically legal for trump to have not implemented the sanctions... for now.

One thing Trump has done for the US is shown how flawed the US constitution really is and how people need to stop venerating it and start actually objectively analysing it and figuring out what needs changing for the system to actually function and have effective checks and balances.

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332 points · 1 month ago

Yeah. Worst fucking nightmare. He violated the constitution by not implementing sanctions he's constitutionally obligated to implement.

Worst nightmare though.

His rubes will eat his words up and ask if his shriveled orange balls need polishing, though, because he said the magic words "political correctness."

because he said the magic words "political correctness."

In other words: "we want to hate and bully the gays, women, and brown skinned folks because we are so utterly useless and worthless, and we have to feel good somehow"

If I ever hear someone complaining about political correctness, I know that they are a bigot, that they are untrustworthy, and that they are a bully.

It's a dogwhistle. To a person who isn't racist, "political correctness" is not a useful phrase. It's a concept created by the right to claim others' empathy is something else but human decency.

See also "Virtue Signalling".

Which is right up there with mocking someone for being interested in a subject or doing well at school.

It's code for "You make me feel inadequate, therefore I am going to attack you to make myself feel better"

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And

Now... I love our country.

When you have to start a sentence with that...

3 points · 1 month ago

I have been Russia's bigliest wet dream.

FTFY.

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3.4k points · 1 month ago

Jesus, I hate reading his actual words. They make me rationally angry.

Foreign
473 points · 1 month ago

I watched the debates because i had to stay at a hostel at the time and had nothing better to do because the wifi was shite and I was aghast that anyone could even think to vote for him after watching the debates where it was painfully evident that he had no grasp of anything he spoke about. The fact that half then voted for him is beyond belief.

The Netherlands
352 points · 1 month ago

dumb people who also don't have a grasp on anything Trump talks about don't realize Trump doesn't have a grasp of anything he talks about.

It's kind of like how you can make up bullshit about how wine tastes to a lot of people, but not to someone who knows their wine.

sniffs the color is superb, reminds me of grapes - the kind that makes Merlot. What's the name...ah! Muscow grapes!

You can taste the dirt that grew it, very earthy and a touch of warthog. It should pair excellently with sea spide- uh, crabs and dandelions.

Don't pair red wine with seafood you dirty philistine.

Ah, but this one is a specific and special kind. You wouldn't know unless if you taste it.

Looks around for the nearest exit

Texas
6 points · 1 month ago

I do it all the time. You know what kind of wine I like to pair with my food? Whateverthehell kinda wine I feel like drinking that night.

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it has an oaky afterbirth

Michigan
3 points · 1 month ago

I came here for the Michael Scott reference.

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The Netherlands
5 points · 1 month ago

hmmm yes the fruity tones of this chaborneix sovignion very beautifully contrast the earthy base, making it both rich and surprisingly bright.

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"He's from New York, that's how everyone from New York talks!" ~ Midwesterners who have never visited or met anyone from New York.

New Jersey
4 points · 1 month ago

And they think that New York is den of violent, drug addicted thugs

Which is hilarious because Meth does not come from New York...

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Dunning-Kruger strikes again.

I used to work in a wine-adjacent industry, and to be fair, you can also totally bullshit the vast majority of "wine people" as well.

There's a few hundred master sommeliers on the planet, who have specifically trained pallettes and have put a fairly significant amount of effort and time into it.

In my experience, nearly everyone else is faking it, but people with money won't call out other people with money to their faces, and so you gets lots of "hmm, yes I agree that the mouthfeel resembles a 28 year oak tree from southern Croatia."

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California
5 points · 1 month ago

Trump is what dumb people think a smart person is

Npr this morning ran a segment where they spoke to a steel mill worker.

”I have plans to write a letter to President Trump or maybe a personal phone call," Moore said. He believes that if he can get the president's ear, he might be able to convince him to give NLMK an exemption for the 3 million tons of semi-finished steel slabs it wants to import from Russia”

They treat politics like a sports team. My team won, now use made up shit to make fun of people that voted the other way....’Murcia

Somebody summarized him perfectly as a stupid person's idea of a smart man, a poor person's idea of a wealthy man. So many know otherwise but there's some that just don't.

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Not half, unfortunately. A huge part of the problem is just how many people sat at home.

voting age population in the US is 235,000,000 more or less. Trump got just shy of 63,000,000 votes (3,000,000 less than Clinton), which is under 27% of potential voters.

That's why Russia's campaign was FAR more focused on keeping people home, rather than just pushing Trump.

Them having their vote on a Tuesday without having guaranteed paid time off to vote, like we do in Canada and I'm sure many other countries doesn't help.

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25 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

The problem is that one of our two major political parties wants it to be as hard as possible for people to vote.

If we, as a citizenry, tried to mobilize a bipartisan campaign to declare a voting holiday for presidential elections, right-wing politicians and media would label it an anti-capitalist, liberal-led attempt to allow as many illegal voters as possible.

Then they'd call us lazy and say, "It only takes a few minutes to vote. Why do you need the whole day off?" It will start as a call from billionaire CEOs and political pundits who don't have real jobs, and every put-upon Lunchbox Joe or Jane in America will internalize it and adopt it as their rallying cry against a voting holiday.

That's how US politics work: exploited working class people are shamed into voting against their own interests by the very people exploiting them. The last thing those people want is a citizenry that has access to clear policy information being given the time to make informed choices. They want us either so undereducated that we have no idea what's in our best interest or so overworked that we just don't care.

In Canada all we just have to have three consecutive hours to vote. So only if the hours you work don't allow that do you get the paid time off. A decent compromise.

Edit: from elections canada

By law, eligible electors must have three consecutive hours to cast their vote on election day. If your hours of work do not allow for three consecutive hours to vote, your employer must give you time off.

For example, if you live in a riding where voting hours are 9:30 a.m. to 9:30 p.m. and you usually work from 11:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., your hours of work will not allow three consecutive hours for voting. To give you three consecutive hours to vote, your employer could allow you to arrive late (at 12:30 p.m.), let you leave early (at 6:30 p.m.), or give you three hours off at some point during the work day.

Your employer has the right to decide when the time off will be given.

This rule may not apply if you work in the transportation industry.

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And how many black and Hispanic voters are still getting disenfranchised.

And how many blue districts are sliced into uselessness.

Democracy is being stolen right in front of us.

And those 63 million hardcore conservative voters ALWAYS. VOTE. EVERY. TIME! The fact that a huge number of my fellow Americans are perfectly willing to let these fearful, authoritarian leaning dupes decide how our country will be run is beyond me.

California
6 points · 1 month ago

they aren't "fearful authoritarian guys"...

they are racist cowards that want to subjugate everyone that aren't white racist cowards like them.

Some are but the others are Evangelical Christian who vote solely on abortion. I have a couple sisters in this group with their husbands.

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Only 136 million voted in 2016.

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Many of them were stuck at work in states with shitty alternates to voting, denied the ability to vote by purges of voter registration, or unable to vote because of long lines at their voting location which tends to happen in specific minority areas by some magical reason.

Yeah, apathy is a part of it, but a significant part is election fraud perpetrated by Republicans to deny non GOP votes. Enough to swing the electoral college to bypass the popular vote again.

Texas
3 points · 1 month ago

FYI if you live in Texas we have the 2nd worst voter turnout in a nation of low voter turn out. Went to a Beto organizing meeting on Monday and the goal is to get more people out and enthusiastic about voting. We believe Beto's ideas resonate w/ more people and win.

The important time is now to start volunteering and knocking on doors and calling. If you live in Houston I would be happy to host an event near you and walk door to door in your neighborhood.

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I remember watching the 'you're the puppet' debate with friends and they all thought Trump won. It was legitimately terrifying.

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Most of his voter base didn't watch the debates.

I think they just watch fox "news" entertainment and cartoons.

Even if they watched the debates. He wasn't hillary

Yeah, I know a few moderate Republicans who voted Trump partly out of party loyalty and partly because they saw Hillary essentially demanding her turn as president. That said, far too many people voted for him purely out of party loyalty, and far too many seemingly reasonable people still support him for not being a Democrat.

Because abortion is bad and gays and blacks are scary.

This guy Republicans

Canadian here, watched all the debates. When he mentioned Rosie O'Donnell all my fears of a Trump presidency evaporated - surely it was impossible at that point? I reassured all my Irish friends that the Americans would never elect him, that nobody could be so foolish. And yet...

Never underestimate how stupid Americans can be.

From: An American

7 points · 1 month ago

I purposefully watched all three debates. Each time I left with the same thoughts as you - how can anyone vote for him, it was a slaughter.

Then I'd watch the reactions and the live audience polling etc. Each time I was shocked at how close people said it was. I just couldn't fathom it and was shocked each time.

It's two years later and I'm still shocked and cannot fathom how he has supporters. I really just don't get it.

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Well only 33 percent voted for him or something like that. There was really poor voting turnout. That’s why I pay close attention these days. I didn’t care much about politics until this asshole got elected and I saw just how bad Republicans as a whole were for our country. I actually thank him for opening my eyes to the problem.

It wasn't really half of Americans, keep that in mind. It was half of voters, which was around 58%. Democrats in general had gotten complacent in their voting because they had been winning for a while, and many of them saw no real path for someone as ideologically and morally and literally 6x financially bankrupt as Trump to legitimately win the election...so they just didn't vote. Or they thought their vote could comfortably go to a 3rd party. Or they were miffed by the Bernie situation and didn't vote for Clinton. It was a perfect storm of failures that allowed him to take office.

anyone could even think to vote for him after watching the debates

They didn't. Anyone I know who watched any debates did not vote for him.

Unfortunately, many who watched the debates thought he did a good job.

What really annoyed me was during this time, people would comment "no one was talking about policy", etc. But Hillary was actually trying to talk policy but trump was just dragging the whole thing back in to the mud s of course Hillary would defend herself. I'm not saying she did the right thing but people really stuck with "both sides are the same."

Foreign
3 points · 1 month ago

I think it was pretty evident then as it is now that Trump doesn't discuss policy because he can't. Its pretty clear whenever he makes a statement about policy it is something he is reading from a teleprompter and you can hear his affect is all different and he doesnt seem to understand the concepts he is saying out loud.

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1.2k points · 1 month ago

They make me rationally angry.

idk if that's a typo but boy does it fucking fit. Being angry at this buffoon's butchering of logic and language is entirely rational.

California
606 points · 1 month ago

It's so... meandering. It's like listening to the asshole, chickenshit version of Grampa Simpson.

Pennsylvania
253 points · 1 month ago

It's also completely contradictory. He goes from being Russia's worst nightmare to being their greatest advocate in the same fucking sentence.

Foreign
139 points · 1 month ago

He has to show that he’s not a puppet, so he does that by claiming to be Russia’s worst nightmare, side reference to Hillary because why not, and then, coast is clear he can spruik Putin’s message as instructed. America you are truly lost.

Texas
21 points · 1 month ago

I would say who the hell actually falls for such a blatant and pathetic attempt at claiming opposition to Russian geopolitical goals, but sadly, I already know the answer.

I guess you could say that Hillary is living rent free in Donald's head.

America
3 points · 1 month ago

We’ve been lost before. We will recover.

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It's as if he's fucking Russia and saying things like "oh, you naughty state! I'm going to treat you so bad and play with your tasty little country until I can taste your commerce".

Pennsylvania
3 points · 1 month ago

Da! Please continue, I'm almost there.

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Someone with voice talent needs to start recording Trump quotes in a Foghorn Leghorn voice. please

It's been said before but I think it bears repeating.

People often wonder how Trump's rambling manages to sway others and it's because of the way the he speaks in vague, often contradictory sentences. This allows those who support him to basically hear whatever they want when he says something, because his sentences often mean everything and nothing at all. Everyone close to him (his family and inlaws) does this.

If you want to hear him be tough on Russia? Well it's right there. He's their worst enemy.

You want him to be diplomatic with Russia? Well he's saying that as well.

You think diplomacy is good, but full reinstatement is going to far? Well that's what he said!

You think the G7 should be remodeled and Russia should be fully reinstated? Guess what? He said that too!

I actually read it like it's Foghorn Leghorn talking

Dude Foghorn Leghorn is awesome, never equate him with Cheetolini...

11 points · 1 month ago

Especially because he's got the Jeff Sessions voice down to a science

Texas
7 points · 1 month ago

Jeff sessions has a bit of a shrill, squeaky voice, Foghorn Leghorn has a deeper voice with an occasional high pitched inflection.

I’ve never actually listened to his voice lol. I can’t stand listening to any of the asshats currently in power.

If only Mel Blanc were around to dub them all.

Cheetolini...

I prefer Benito Dorito.

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8 points · 1 month ago

Like foghorn leghorn, grampa simpson and your angry racist uncle combined.

"I say, I say boy, believe me, Mexicans used to be gardeners, not governors... which was the style at the time."

"Ah say, ah say, beat it boy, ya bother me."

Foreign
5 points · 1 month ago

Boy’s about as sharp as a sack of wet leather.

That voice is reserved for AG Jeff "Asshorn Dickhorn" Sessions.

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North Carolina
13 points · 1 month ago

I make more sense when I'm in the middle of changing psych meds, and even when stable and fully medicated I'm prone to ADHD leaps of logic, going from A to Z without explicitly enumerating B to Y.

Side note, don't ever do that the same week you have a foreign language oral exam. I swear I must have sounded like I was having a stroke.

But grandpa Simpson wasn't a draft fighter dodger.

Foreign
6 points · 1 month ago

Grampa Simpson is a combat veteran, so he gets a pass to ramble.

Don’t disparage him like that! At least Grampa Simpson didn’t run from his military service like cadet bone spurs did.

The asshole chickenshit President version of Grampa Simpson.

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Nope I meant rationally.

California
3 points · 1 month ago

Yeah I 100% figured that was intended. It's completely rational to be angry when reading stuff like this. The fact that this guy represents me on the international stage (I mean, that's just one of many reasons I am frustrated that he's President) just pisses me off. Every time he says shit like this I just want to yell from the rooftops to every non-American that he DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF US! Reddit is my rooftop, and at least some non-US folks will hear me here, so this is where I vent sometimes.

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I love the idiots who defend him over at the shithole subreddit that shall not be named. Hard to tell if they're real or just Russian agents. At this point I don't give a shit, they're one in the same. Traitors to this country.

6 points · 1 month ago

Not being angry would be irrational.

I'm sorry we're all out of logic; would you prefer with no cream?

Of course it’s not a typo.

4 points · 1 month ago

My Anger at him is rational. My anger at his supporters is rational. My anger at this entire situation is rational. My anger at the people who watched this whole thing happen and did NOTHING is the most rational though.

Massachusetts
3 points · 1 month ago

I just don't understand how people can back him up saying he is a smart man. Trump is a fucking moron.

There is no actual logic in his statement. It boils down to "Russia should be let back in because we should let them back in". People who agree with him are completely oblivious to this kind of circular reasoning.

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The entire platform of his “movement” is simply to associate anything and everything with common enemies of his supporters. What the duck does this have to do to with Hillary and political correctness? Nothing, but as long as Trump and his minions keep shoehorning wedge topics and terms into everything they do, his lemmings will follow him right off the cliff.

It reads like a fucking copypasta

Minnesota
10 points · 1 month ago

Trump Translator:

Jesus, I hate - look, the media hates a lot of things, very unfair, won't tell the truth, fake news, but I hate, to a very great degree, something that Hillary won't hate, because she loves it, ok? she loves it. She can't hate reading his actual words. I read a lot of books. The best. The best words. But they make me very, tremendously angry.

Dude, do you hate me? What did I ever do to you??? BUTTERY MALES!!!

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Yeah his language skills are cringey, but don't let that distract your focus from what he's actually saying. He's blatantly lying about everything, and I'm astounded that there's people out there that can't see what's actually happening.

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My grandfather is a hardcore conservative. He's also deaf so he has to actually read the transcripts of Trump's speeches and interviews. He despises Trump, to say the least.

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How many Pabst Blue Ribbons does one need to drink to write or speak like Trump. I try to close my eyes and imagine Joe Dirt’s voice saying Trump’s words, and it’s pretty close - but not exact.

Nevada
8 points · 1 month ago

0 PBR's, you need to drink an entire bottle of rubbing alcohol.

5 points · 1 month ago

He sounds like a speech-writing program that's failing the Turing Test...

Your anger is rational. His words are not.

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6 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

It's like reading an essay answer on a high school test that has a minimum word count, and the person writing the answer doesn't know the answer. But, they're trying to hit that word count. Also they're evil. And dumb. Really dumb.

3 points · 1 month ago

I can't listen to his voice on NPR, or watch his face. I just get mad and say bad things. Now it's happening with just reading a quote.

Same, just seeing his dumbass makes me angry.

Same

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328 points · 1 month ago

If Hillary got in I think Putin's probably going "Man, I wish Hillary won" because you see what I do.

Is this accurate? Cant watch bc im at work but that sentence is nonsensical; If Hillary won, Putin would say I wish Hillary won?

I mean the rest of it is just a pile of words but that sentence is really messed up

It reads to me like he starts with "If Hillary got in" and then he immediately forgets where he's going with that train of thought and switches to "I think Putin's going..".

Illinois
93 points · 1 month ago

That seems like one of those moments were he pauses, hand waves, and makes a quirky face before launching into the second part.

Nailed it.

This - he is definitely fishing through some mental soup of emotions and fabricating these sentences poorly on the fly. You could deconstruct some of what he says as incomplete sentences, finish them individually based on context, and get a more clear interpretation of his intent, which he usually exposes between statements that amount to nothing, or something other than what he kind of obviously is getting at.

Can't tell if its a strategy based on years of bullshitting people, or if he is just really really bad at communicating.

Why not both. It's like a senile businessman that doesn't know what he's selling or who's buying it.

Florida
3 points · 1 month ago

Can't tell if its a strategy based on years of bullshitting people, or if he is just really really bad at communicating.

Or an inherent Republican trait. Note that the only GOP president in the past two generations who could speak in comprehensible complete sentences was an actor.

5 points · 1 month ago

That is certainly his style. He starts a sentence, then stops and makes a funny face to let the implication of what he may be insinuating sink in. Then he moves on to a new sentence.

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The worst part is Hillary is actually very well-versed in foreign policy and international politics and absolutely would not have put up with Putin’s shit. There’s a reason Obama appointed her Secretary of State, he knew she had the experience he didn’t and would push for stuff he wouldn’t.

7 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

lol, experience? knowledge?!

LIBRUL!!!

getting downvoted so ill add the /s even though it really shouldnt be necessary

7 points · 1 month ago

Shouldn’t be, but it is

8 points · 1 month ago

"If Hillary got in", pause, hand gesture, knowing look to supporters, that also serves of a full stop/period, "I think Putin's..."

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8 points · 1 month ago

OP here. Yep, that's really what he said. It made no sense, but I transcribed it how he said it.

Oh my god, the man’s been president for seventeen months and is still obsessed with Hillary.

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4 points · 1 month ago

Of course it's real, he's hitting all the same points, as though he's talking to his dumb-fuck base.

it may not be "Politically Correct"

Shove off.

He thinks he's doing the best at everything, no matter the side. In his mind he's the best at being pro-Russia but also the best at fighting against Russia. It just depends on what he wants to lie about at that exact moment.

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Jesus fuck. Hrs got brain rot.

25 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

Every time Trump wants something he always "buffers" it with a set of claims that he thinks makes his negotiating position stronger even though 9 times out of 10 these claims are transparent bullshit

Trump interviewing to be a burger flipper at McDonalds: "Look, I could have any job, okay? I don't need this job, I could go work at Microsoft. And that would be a real loss to the McDonald's corporation, they should think about it. They should think about it. But I love McDonalds, and I said to myself, because I have a great brain, there are things about McDonalds that are wonderful. So maybe I'll do you a favor and work here. But I don't need to do it."

I think a lot of the time people react to his claims as if he's actually stating the case for something, e..g "I have the absolute right to pardon myself" = "I will pardon myself," "China has a president for life now, what about USA, well we'll see" = "I plan to be a dictator," when in reality Trump just states the most absurdly bullshit possible extension of his claim/demand "as a negotiating position." His fans think this is amazing salesmanship, "talking past the sale" or something. When in reality it just shows that Trump isn't a credible negotiator.

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Great Britain
148 points · 1 month ago

I have been Russia's worst nightmare. If Hillary got in I think Putin's probably going "Man, I wish Hillary won" because you see what I do

We have always been at war with eastasia

And/or

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command

161 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

and it may not be "Politically Correct"

And there it is.

The magic fucking words he says to send his pawns into a frothing rage willing to do and support whatever he says is good.

"Political correctness is bad because I wanna say whatever I want without social recour--HOW FUCKING DARE YOU SAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS." I swear, each day I wake up thinking I couldn't hate Fox News regressives more than I did the last... and yet I do.

Pennsylvania
11 points · 1 month ago

Political correctness is a dog whistle for blatantly corrupt and/or immoral behavior.

Vermont
7 points · 1 month ago

Not to mention "I think Russia should be in the G7 meetings" has literally nothing to do with what people would consider Political Correctness. Unless he meant to say "It may not be correct, Politically", in which case he was actually spot on!

California
6 points · 1 month ago

I mean, I suppose it isn't politically correct to be a treasonous piece of shit.

That seems like one of the most incorrect things you can do politically.

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Pure word vomit

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I have been Russia's worst nightmare. If Hillary got in I think Putin's probably going "Man, I wish Hillary won" because you see what I do. BUT, with that being said; Russia should be in this meeting.

He always drops the most audacious lies before giving his opinions which is almost always diametrically opposed to the lie. This characteristic, which has been with him FOREVER, made him and continues to make him unfit to hold public office.

"I've been really tough on the terrible baby rapers. Today, I'm announcing the pardon of a convicted baby raper."

"I'm the least racist person you have ever met. Those neo nazis are some very fine people."

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Simple question for a journalist to ask him: How is Russia in the G7/8 good for the US?

I don't think he'd answer anything of substance, but I'd like to see the question asked.

I understand it as they are trying to negotiate economic deals and pacts on a global scale. If that's true, then you want the major global players present. With that, I'd probably bring in China first and if I'm not the US, I'm thinking of booting the US, at least while Trump is around. I know he is only looking to screw everyone else because he doesn't believe in a fair deal, he just believes in a deal you win or lose.

I'll be honest, I don't know if what he is saying is wrong. I mean that whole first half of his quote is just a bold face lie, one of his worst, which says a lot. But, regarding Russia being at a global economic summit I don't see harm and I see potential benefit if the powers can unite and tell Russia they will be left behind if they don't start playing ball. Back to my original paragraph though, if I'm not the US, I don't see Trump uniting against Russia. So in that sense, I'm like no fucking way is Russia coming to the table. But, any other POTUS and I'm going to give this request some thought.

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Just to add some context here...

Russia was booted out of the G8 after it invaded Ukraine and illegally annexed Crimea. AFTER that had happened, Trump made the bizarre claim that Putin would never invade Ukraine.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/politics/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-crimea-putin/index.html

TRUMP: "He's not going into Ukraine, OK, just so you understand. He's not going to go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You can put it down. You can take it anywhere you want."

In typical Trump-fashion, he attempted to mask his ignorance by claiming that he was speaking in the hypothetical and really saying that Putin would not have invaded Ukraine if Trump were President.

TRUMP: "When I said in an interview that Putin is 'not going into Ukraine, you can mark it down,' I am saying if I am President. Already in Crimea!"

So his statement that Russia should be allowed back into the G8 despite its military invasion of Crimea is totally and unsurprisingly inconsistent with Trump's prior bluster.

I know it’s not super relevant, but was anyone else bothered by the amount of times he said “Russia” in that short clip?

If Hillary got in I think Putin's probably going "Man, I wish Hillary won" because you see what I do.

That sentence is in three tenses at once.

That dude has been a 1 year long wet dream for Russia, it couldn't get any more fucking obvious that he is doing their bidding.

If anyone has a good argument for how Trump has (overall) been more tough on Russia than Hillary would, and I will ship you a beer overseas if I have to.

He's still talking about Hillary..

Good god how can anyone think he's alpha? It's the same people who skree about "RENT FREE" too, when he clearly has a Penthouse in his head for her.

There will be textbooks written on this.

7 points · 1 month ago

They should let Russia come back in, because we should have Russia at the negotiating table.

Absolutely airtight logic. We should let them back because we should let them back in. Can't argue with that.

I wonder if foreign translators ever felt the urge to quit when faced with the task of translating his verbal sewage.

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He doesn't even fucking have an argument as to why Russia should be in there except that it will make it "G8" instead of "G7."

Trump is not an American. Trump is a Russian asset.

He is actively engaged in treason.

The country of Spain has more economic impact than Russia -- and they come with the EU. Alienating everyone so we can get cheap vodka? Lame excuse.

He blames anything that he says which is a lie on being politically incorrect

This is great, thanks for that.

”I’ve been the toughest on Russia EVaR! Hillary would be rolling over for Putin. With that being said:”

rolls over for Russian belly rub

4 points · 1 month ago

He thinks the G7 is a "negotiating table." Because of course he'd be that stupid.

Texas
3 points · 1 month ago

I think Putin's probably going "Man, I wish Hillary won"

That's why Putin helped you Dorrito Don? Because he was afraid of what a big handed stable genius such as yourself would do? That's the argument you're going to make? An argument that essentially boils down to, "I'm tougher on Russia than anyone and to prove it I'm going to help Russian regain some of it's international prestige."

Really? I think a hormonal preteen can come up with a better argument than that.

Sure looks like a traitor is president

3 points · 1 month ago

Russia only has the 10th largest economy. Their population is shrinking. So their economy will continue to shrink. They do not matter. Russia is a shithole country with nukes.

Btw Free Crimea.

2 points · 1 month ago

Well that makes me feel better. It turns out, he is just an idiot.

2 points · 1 month ago

Can we talk about his choice of words, "but we have a world to run."? First of all, these countries don't run the world. It is not like the G7 is a government body that governs the world. Is that what he thinks is going on? When did Trump become a globalist. Second of all, when he says we is he talking about him and Putin? Thirdly, does he even know why they were kicked out, they took over another country, are trying to take over another sovereign nation, and interfered in countless elections. How are people in the US, still thinking he had nothing to do with Russia?

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It's going to be a G6 if we (in the US) don't get this shit fixed.

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