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Hello, I am not here to give any advice on when to dodge but literally when to dodge (involving timer). I recently dodged a ranked game since I got my secondary and didn't feel like playing it. When the screen closed out, the last number I saw was 3 seconds. Since I dodged many games throughout my ranked career, I didn't think anything about what happened. A youtube clip later, I decided to log back in to see that I got leaver remake with full loss of LP. Have no clue if my MMR is screwed from that but the thought of getting reported and possible penalized from that was scary. Talking to a league Tech, it was revealed that the client timer vs the timer seen on your screen doesn't match. To avoid this, the league tech suggested that if one decides to dodge that it should be done 10 seconds before the game starts. I am just giving out a warning to those that are trying to climb and are using dodging techniques to help climb that 10 seconds is what Riot suggested.

Tldr: Dodge no later that 10 seconds before the game starts.

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  1. Why and how is it lately that Krugs are so important, also have heard nightblue3 saying raptors is super important too.

  2. How can you effectively steal krugs, the minion wave always reveals me and then botlane comes to kill me along with the jungler.

  3. Is nidalee a bad champion at the moment, I'm playing at Gold 4 just trying to learn her in flex(because I don't care about flex).

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Basically the title. I really wanna climb before the season ends and I'm pretty competent at suppirt but end up fluctuating from picking enchanters like Janna and Soraka and basically say to my ADC "You got this right?" and playmaking supports where I just go in and faceroll as Blitz or Leona.

Is one better than the other in low elo or is it entirely situational?

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Posted byMaster 11 day ago

Good morning! Another week and another "Learns" series! The sixth video is learning how to play Pyke with Season 8 Challenger, Educational Streamer and OP.gg number 1 Pyke Master, Hanjaro.

RTO Learns How to Play Pyke Featuring Hanjaro | Patch 8.18

Reminder on what the series is about:

I am a OTP Renekton player with over 5,000 games with the Croc. One of the best Renekton players in the world, but I am really bad at every other champ in the game. I am on a mission to fix it by enlisting the help of the best players of other champions and having them teach me how to play their champ.

As with any of my content, feedback is always appreciated. If you are a master at your champion and think that you are qualified to teach me how to play, hit me up on a Reddit DM. I already have some really great players who have hit me up, so you would probably need to be high masters/challenger to be filmed anytime soon. Thanks guys!

Past Episodes:

Champ Coach Patch Link
Jhin IKeepItTaco 8.17 Link
Pyke Twtv Hanjarolol 8.18 Link
Talon Aatrixx 8.16 Link
Udyr WillieFknP 8.17 Link
Yorick AF Lone Stigma 8.18 Link

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Traditionally, marksmen have been the ones to go bot with their support but since the huge shake up in bot, we've seen Swain settle in there as well. However you don't really see any other mages down there besides him, why is that?

What does Swain have to enable playing bot lane that other mages don't?

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So I'm writing this after getting completely stomped in lane against a Rengar "support." Essentially he'd hide in our bush and any time I (Tristana) walked up to CS he'd jump out for a chunk off my health bar. If my Morgana support missed the bind he'd usually get away pretty free. I couldn't keep the wave at my turret due to Trist E + Morg pool, and they kept racking up kills and basically wrecked the rest of the game, as my choices were either miss every CS or walk up and get smoked.

In the future, what do I do different against this, especially if I don't see it coming (i.e. first pick ADC so can't do something like Ez, support-ish champ gets flexed elsewhere) Is there anything I can do? Or do I just lube up and wait for the next game?

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I've been playing ADC (Diamond Stuck) for a long time now, and i'm proud to say that i can play almost every auto attack marksmen, ALMOST. My problem is definitely with the archers. I get really pissed just thinking about the fact that the marksmen i have mastered the most is Kalista, one of the most difficult marksmen to learn how to play, kite and behave at all stages of the game, but i just simply can't learn Varus and Ashe, specially Varus, even after 100 games, and i feel like is all about the auto attack animation with the bow. When i'm playing with them i just feel like the animation is so unclear, and throughout the hole game my character feels really 'heavy', i cancel a lot of autos and my gameplay doesn't flow at all. What do i need to adapt compared to other marksmen like Tristana, Kalista and Caitlyn in order to make my Varus or Ashe gameplay 'fluid'? Is there something i should do really different from what i usually do with other traditional marksmen? Any tip can help, i'm not a meta slave or anything but i really wish i could master Varus (even after my 100 games). The IE and LW changes made crit ADs so shit i cant even do damage to a tank at 6 items (stormrazor sucks 15min+), or just do damage at all, and i can't stand playing Kalista all day, she's just bad into a lot of comps. And, please, don't tell me to play fucking Kaisa, i hate that obnoxious champ and she's banned in all my games.

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Im a mid laner but i recently swapped to bot lane since my friend is support main. Im really confused when to build AD or AP when using Kai'sa. I tested both builds in practice tool and found out that ap kai'sa deals more damage but when it comes to solo/duo it doesn't deal that much of a damage even though I kited so well and i have a good cs score.

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Hey all I’m Rennaisance and I’m an Irelia OTP right now in top lane at gold right now. I’m winning lane about 70% of the time and I can snowball that out to the rest of the map pretty well. But what do I do when everyone is behind? When we just farm up we bleed out and lose eventually since they are getting more gold than us but when we try to make plays we lose the fight and they just end the game quicker, I’m wondering if there is a balance between passive and aggressive play when behind.

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This image contains the stats and the builds of the game, I am curious where the true damage is from . He took grasp as primary rune. I know he took precision tree on the secondary, but that means conqueror wasn't available as a secondary rune choice.. I was the Vayne btw.

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Hello fellow Summoners :)

We made (on support mains forum /r/supportlol ) a list of useful resources for support role. I thought some of you might be interested so here it is:

Source (this is were you can see list updated):

http://goedhartvoordieren.nl/?page=r/supportlol/comments/7ajtcv/read_me_support_resources/

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I recently hit silver for the first time, which was my goal for this season. I'm ecstatic but now I'm worried about playing ranked again this season and dropping back into bronze.

That said, I've heard people say that in order to drop an entire division your MMR has to become equal to players in the lower division's fifth rank. So my MMR would have to drop to Bronze V tier.

This sounds reassuring, as it would imply I could play as much ranked as I want going forward (I seriously doubt my MMR would drop that far) but I just want to be sure. Can anyone explain that for me?

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Posted bySilver IV1 hour ago

Hi guys,

First off, sorry if this is seen as unproductive, but I’m really running out of ideas. I’m a silver 1 top main on EUW, my goal this season was to finally get to silver after spending a season in bronze. I achieved this goal and took a shine to Garen, who I used to climb up to silver 1. I would now really like to try and break into gold before the end of the season, but I’m really struggling to make progress in this tier.

I’ve been kind of stuck in a win-lose-win-lose pattern since I got to silver 1 and I can’t get any higher than 40-ish LP. I have issues with overestimating my damage output and survivability, but I worry about losing out on too much CS and becoming useless. Garen still feels good to play but I’m finding that people either ban him, counter him or just play too safely for me to do anything to them.

I suppose what I want to know is should I change champions/roles? Garen is a real comfort pick but I find that I either fall behind really fast or struggle to contribute to a victory. If it helps, I enjoy playing other juggernauts like Darius as well, and used to play a fair amount of Renekton, Quinn and Shen in the past. But is there someone else that might be better suited to help me get to gold?

Here’s my op.gg - OP.GG

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Tips om snel veel geld te verdienen!!!

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So I finally hit P1 for the first time, and as soon as I got there, my win streak ended and I started bouncing back and forth before finally demoting back down to plat2 today.

Every single game I've gotten a person who just gives up at 10 or gives about 10 kills at 15 minutes, and everyone spamming "GG"

How the hell do people carry as support through this cesspool? I blasted through Plat in the span of like 2 weeks and got here, I'm so demoralized right now I'm thinking of quitting, and hitting Diamond has been a dream of mine for years now.

I don't see how it's possible when the odds are just stacked against you every single game, and you're not even a carry.

My last game that demoted me, my Varus was fed and I peeled for him... the entire time he was spamming FF votes and flaming as I tried to calm him down and told him we got this. Then I got demoted.

So... how the hell do you carry this? I'm a Thresh main btw.

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Can someone explain when I should build lethality or not in certain matchups because I see alot of diverse builds and lethality seems to be popular on alot of ADCs. (I play Graves jungle and I usually finish my Jungle item and then rush a Stormrazor into tier 1 boots and then start building either cleaver or deaths dance). Any tips on what to build during certain matchups and when is lethality good?

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Yes I understand you can climb playing any role in the game but is it pretty widely accepted that ADC and Support generally make for a harder time in solo queue? Assuming you're not duoing (which personally I hardly ever do) you have 4 random teammates that you're dependant on for the entire game. Compare that to Mid, Jungle, and Top which all seem to have a lot more independance and the ability to set themselves up to solo carry the game if needed. To me it seems in those three roles you're more immune to the "teammate lottery" of solo queue, and so in theory you should be able to climb faster if you're good in one of those roles.

Anyway would love to get some people's thoughts on this.

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As the topic suggests, I feel like Master Yi is a farm to fight hero that likes to get easy picks to get really farmed to demolish the opponent. I'm wondering when I should splitpush? I feel like I should splitpush when there isn't a fight happening if it's safe, rotate to jungle but prioritize fights if there are good ones to take, but if our teams strength is weaker than theirs I feel like I should prioritize splitpush. Can someone give their opinion on this? Also another question, does Wuju style active do full damage on the double strike and if Wuju style works on towers. Also extra Kassadin questions, is maxing Q and then E better or the 3 points in Q then max E then back to maxing Q better? What about build order on Kassadin? Also should you use Q to farm in lane or poke or does it depend if so, it would be good to have some scenarios. Also how should I manage my rift walks? I've heard to use first riftwalk for mobility then the rest for jumping on targets. Although that may also depend.

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As title says, if a game ends up where my team is behind, how should i be playing as an ADC?

i'd usually use my blue trinket on CD and place a pink in defensive positions for vision and shove lanes near tower. some times i'd be barely able to do that.

if my team refuses to buy pinks or ward what should i be doing to try and pull it back?

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Posted byPlatinum IV14 hours ago

I realize her W grants bonus movement speed when I attack a vulnerable target, but is the extra movement speed from her ult lost before or after her ult damage/triggering ability lands? If I E out of ult, will I retain Celerity's bonus AD for the damage?

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im trying to grasp minion manipulation lately, and fast pushing (and some of slow pushing) just seems odd to me.

the whole idea of killing the melee minions so that it pushes fast, just seems odd. the wave is gonna die soon after anyway, all youre doing is missing 3 cs for not killing the backline

obviously im missing something, so im just trying to understand. it seems horribly ineffective whenever i think of doing it, and even slow pushing just feels awkward. the melee ones are already dying, how will it slowly push?

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Basically, I have two friends who I duo with semi-regularly who are extremely aggressive and both of them have peaked in challenger. They tell me that I need to not be so scared to make plays but some of their plays legit seem insane. One time I was on rakan and my friend on yasuo tells me to go in 2v4 when hes 4/5 not even finished his ie. My other friend plays adc and forces 2v3s even when I specifically ping that my lane opponent is missing from mid. Is this level of aggression really necessary to get high up on the ladder? I'm currently consistently bouncing between d2-d1 as a control mage player. My playstyle is quite passive and I usually wait for my second or third item to start racking up kills. I still do the basics like fighting for scuttle and dragon I'm not just afk from the map but I feel like my kill pressure is kinda low. Should I be forcing fights? I play viktor and xerath. Im not sure how I can be aggressive. I always feel uncomfortable trying to match the tempo of my duo partners as they go for picks that I would normally consider inting.

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Hey guys. I’ve got a bit of a problem with who I’m trying to main. So I used to be a shaco main and I played him like crazy in jungle but I played him so much that I got bored and eventually stopped playing shaco and I was even more discouraged after duskblade nerf. So I bounced around roles and champs and I realized I wasn’t playing a champ long enough to actually get somewhat good with them which then made me want to get a new champ. I played kalista a few times but got pounded by some buffed vaynes. But I play very off meta and that troubles me. I will try any champ in any role. I’ve done Leona jungle. And after that I’m pretty much stuck. I’ve been playing s different champ every game in a different role and my win rate is going down and it’s kind of making me not want to play anymore. If anyone has any tips on what I should do it is much appreciated.

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From what I've played, Midlane it is impossible to lose lane. The amount of damage you deal early is just way too fucking high.

You don't really get poked down in lane because of your passive sustain.

One of the tips I've learned is that if you use Q twice on minions, and then jump on them with E, you get an insta-knockup (which you can lead into a guaranteed W)

Also, CC(xerath stun, TF gold card) does not cancel W. This means that if you can predict their CC, you can basically make it useless with W.


My build is Tiamat -> Trinity Force -> Sterak's -> Titanic -> tank, like Irelia/Jax.


You're basically playing an Irelia that is disgustingly good early and kinda meh late game.


For runes, I've tried Conquerer and Electrocute. I've been meaning to try Phase Rush since that is meta on jungle Xin Zhao, but I don't know how good it is.

Electrocute feels a lot better (lots of early kill pressure), but that's just my personal opinion.

Resolve secondary I go for bone plating and Chrysalis.


Also, I know there is a Stattik Shv Xin Zhao build, and I've been meaning to try that too.


EDIT: I also start Doran's Blade. I've never felt mana problems, so I don't get corrupting, but I'm not sure if that's the best option.

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I’ll try to be brief.

  1. How do you stay relevant as Yorick late game? I can build insanely tanky and still get melted. I find myself hiding in team fights peeling with w and dropping ult if someone is out of position

  2. I usually main jungle and can play great early on but I seem to fall off and can’t keep pushing a lead. I main Rammus, Warwick, and hecarim. I end up weak late game and not doing well in team fights. The enemy builds enough pen that my tanky champ becomes an easy target. Help? Advice?

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A little bit of background info, been hard stuck silver for years, quit the game and recently came back.

The “Play to get better, not to win” advice didn’t make sense because I wanted to climb and to climb you need to win— but the mentality matters so much more than we think.

The situation I came across was pretty rare, so it might not be able to happen for everybody. I was Silver I and I had a Diamond III friend play with me on his Gold I smurf. His smurf account may have been Gold but I was curious what the other people in my game were ranked. (I usually don’t check other people’s rank often in game, but this was just out of curiosity) Turns out he had somewhere near a Plat MMR so we most people in my game were Plat.

It might have been placebo, but I felt so outmatched when in game. Mechanically, in macro play— I just felt kind of outmatched.

After the game I realized that if I were to just win, win, win, yeah I would go up in rank, but how would I square up against higher ELO people? I would just break under pressure like the game I just played, so I need to play to get better so that I can confidently go to toe to toe with “higher” ELO players.

I’ve been going into every game thinking about how to get better at different aspects like harassing, positioning, warding at the correct time and spot, wave manipulation and it’s been going pretty well!

op.gg if anyone’s curious. Recently hit Gold and now I’m reaching for Plat!

tl;dr Played a game with Diamond friend’s smurf account against all players with much higher ranks than me and got smashed. Realized that I need to play to get better, and not to win.

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