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[–]Calcularius 448 points449 points  (39 children)

MTV really turned out to be crap, didn't it?

[–]biggerwanker 313 points314 points  (30 children)

"Music" Television

"History" Channel

The "Learning" Channel

I could go on...

[–]OptimusSublime 113 points114 points  (11 children)

They used to be purveyors of those titles until “reality” tv took hold.

[–]granos 50 points51 points  (1 child)

[–]Innalibra 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It all makes sense

[–]Killboypowerhed 20 points21 points  (11 children)

MTV isn't called Music Television anymore. We have a channel in the UK now called MTV Music

[–]SlapNuts007 16 points17 points  (10 children)

This makes me irrationally angry for some reason.

[–]cheez_au 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Federal Express Express.

[–]kalekayn 7 points8 points  (8 children)

like the people who say ATM machine or PIN number?

[–]Gehb_ 7 points8 points  (7 children)

Closer comparison would be calling it an ATM Automatic. Or a PIN Personal

Edited : guy who corrected me

[–]lasteve1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

PIN Personal?

[–]Gehb_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Half awake in bed, half assed wrote my comment, thanks

[–]CodePervert 0 points1 point  (4 children)

It may be a closer comparison but I've never heard anyone say either of those and to be honest I would be surprised if /u/kalekayn had

[–]kalekayn 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Well, prepare to be surprised as I've heard them said numerous times.

[–]CodePervert 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Well consider me surprised. Would they annoy you more than PIN number or ATM machine?

[–]kalekayn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Nah, ATM Automatic and PIN Pin just sound really dumb to me while ATM machine and PIN number actually annoy me.

[–]cheez_au 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"Sci-Fi"

[–]OrokaSempai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All just "Reality TV" Channel

[–]tankpuss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Land of the "free"

[–]mimixe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“Television” is a much smaller slice of the entertainment pie than it used to be. As such it has kind of evolved from a medium to its own genre. A channel will have a dating show and a crap buying show, and a house design show... etc. Television is mostly for people who have trouble operating more than one remote.

[–]Fondren_Richmond 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It depends, was the goal to advertise to young adults and kids with enough discretionary income that their parents could afford a cable subscription in the early '80s?

[–]Shermione 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Thank god youtube exists, otherwise there would be no reason for people to make music videos.

[–]Orangebeardo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I.. who cares about the videos anyways?

[–]Shermione 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool people who like to have fun.

[–]soulruler 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it was rather overrated to begin with, even when they played actual music videos. It was hard to find anything that wasn't top 20 unless you tuned into niche shows, and you often had to wait through a bunch of crap to see what you wanted. Also, once MTV learned they didn't have to play entire videos for ratings with Total Request Live (which was also Total Bullshit Live because the votes meant nothing as producers had the right to put on whatever they wanted) everything went down hill. Finally, the amount of censorship they had on videos was insane, especially on rap videos. I remember songs in the 90s being wildly different between MTV and original versions. Hell, terrestrial radio, a free service that falls under language guidelines by the FCC, had more explicit versions of the songs than MTV, a channel you had to pay for that was also less available to the public. MTV tried to push itself as being all rebellious and counter culture, and maybe that was true early on but looking back it's fairly obvious that all of that was just driven by corporate to try to seem cool by just pushing the right buttons on the audience, when really it's so tightly regimented and produced that it's the most fake thing on television.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Capitalism ruins everything

[–]im_not_afraid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Prophets > profits > things that matter

[–]ZanyDelaney 265 points266 points  (2 children)

It reached number 8 here in Australia.

I recall at the time "I Want to Break Free" was repeated many times on afterschool music video shows on TV. Us Australian teens had no idea of what Coronation Street was as it had been taken off Australians TV in the 1970s. We all just thought the clip was funny.

[–]CeboMcDebo 45 points46 points  (0 children)

It is the best Queen music video, narrowly beating Crazy Little thing

[–]grating 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It was what we had come to expect on Countdown (still scarred from things like Red clipping his toenails on stage), and Freddy had also been getting very silly on the Kenny Everett show.

[–]LivinInAShell[🍰] 157 points158 points  (6 children)

I'VE FALLEN IN LOVE FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND THIS TIME I KNOW IT'S FOR REEE-EAL!

[–]rampion 78 points79 points  (3 children)

Always loved the contrast between “for the first time, and this time”

[–]LivinInAShell[🍰] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That was always the first thing I picked up on as well!!!

[–]bleunt 6 points7 points  (1 child)

He thought it was real the previous times, but it wasn’t love. This time is the first real time.

[–]LivinInAShell[🍰] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That, or maybe this won't be the 'real deal' this time, either! 0;

[–]bogdan5844 18 points19 points  (1 child)

GOD KNOWS!

[–]TheSociopathicBorg 6 points7 points  (0 children)

GOD KNOWS I WANT TO BREAK FREE!

[–]racingwinner 138 points139 points  (15 children)

as we all know, americans are easily offended by british soap operas.

[–]NascentIntimation 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Is that an inside joke or were you just saying something silly?

[–]racingwinner 11 points12 points  (0 children)

i was being silly

[–]SmurfMaxima 19 points20 points  (11 children)

Americans are easily offended, or "triggered" as it's called these days.

[–]racingwinner 3 points4 points  (5 children)

yes. this statement is true.

[–]Weird_Fiches 6 points7 points  (4 children)

I am offended by your comment!

[–]Beelzabub 7 points8 points  (3 children)

As an American, I am triggered by your comment.

[–]virtwin7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Them libtards always resort to name-calling!".

[–]Jass202 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As an American I am triggered by you triggering this redditor

[–]racingwinner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you are triggered by his use of offended?

[–]RUSH513 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ikr? back in the day, we wouldn't do shit unless you crashed into hawaii

[–]kalekayn 3 points4 points  (1 child)

idiots are everywhere in this world. Not just 'Murica.

[–]SmurfMaxima -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

True, but it's undeniable that the US has become the poster child of the outrage movement and continues to hold top spot.

[–]Preacherjonson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So are many Brits. More so by the time it wastes than any kind of subject matter.

[–]tzar-chasm 18 points19 points  (5 children)

[–]Zielko 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Crazy how much Sacha Baron Cohen looks like Freddy Mercury.

[–]mattemer 5 points6 points  (2 children)

He was at one point lined up to play Freddie in Bohemian Rhapsody in the early stages of the movie.

[–]Zielko 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Yeah I heard Sacha and the band members didn't have the same thing in mind about what the movie would be about.

[–]mattemer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's the way the story goes. He wanted a strictly adult oriented film, they wanted a more family friendly approach to it. I think he could have nailed it though.

Not saying the guy who played him didn't do a good job, no clue about that.

[–]tzar-chasm 5 points6 points  (0 children)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ22qciKirc# Rami Malek looks Sorta like freddie, but he seems to have captured the moves and presence quite well, the accent seems fairly tight too

[–]phernoree 101 points102 points  (14 children)

Was it the cross-dressing, or the shots of Freddie Mercury in heavily-implied orgy sequences?

[–]Herpinheim 88 points89 points  (1 child)

"Well, uh, Mr Murcery we just can't show your music video here on MTV, the public would view some parts as a bit... Deviant."

"Is it because they can't stand the site of a man dressed in women's clothing?"

"Well no it's the, uhh..."

"Is it the orgy?"

"Yes, it's the orgy."

[–]phernoree 32 points33 points  (0 children)

“Was bodysurfing across dozens of crotches a little suggestive?”

[–]babyspacewolf 36 points37 points  (2 children)

Well this would get less attention if OP said it was for it being sexually explicit

[–]An0d0sTwitch 31 points32 points  (0 children)

"heavily Implied"

oh my gosh, I got the vapors. i can feel satan coming the TV, on my Christian MTV channel of all channels.

Imagine if they let something like this happen! We might end up like ENGLAND or AUSTRALIA

[–]more863-also 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"explicit"

[–]NascentIntimation 12 points13 points  (6 children)

I just watched it & did not get "heavily-implied orgy sequences". I saw him representing perhaps Eros or some such passionate character in poetic dance sequences. It was sensual but not obscene or highly suggestive.

[–]phernoree -3 points-2 points  (5 children)

You are also not a network that has to please advertisers. How you personally feel is irrelevant.

[–]NascentIntimation 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I was just pointing out that you said there were heavily-implied orgy sequences when there were not.

[–]phernoree 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Take a random sampling of American households in 1984 and ask them whether they think a guy wearing a tight leotard bodysurfing across dozens of crotches isn’t suggestive....

The results may surprise you, but it won’t surprise me.

[–]NascentIntimation 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Honey, if you show that video to Saudi Arabians today they might say it's highly suggestive of a Satanic ritual.

[–]phernoree -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Again - your personal feelings on whether YOU find the video suggestive are irrelevant. What matters are the advertisers. Even if Freddie himself was adamant that this wasn’t his intention. This is how BUSINESS, and the real world function.

Honey.

[–]ODI-ET-AMObipolarity 47 points48 points  (4 children)

Roger Taylor was the only one who wasnt doing campy over the top drag, he actually looked like a girl

[–]ListersLeftBollock 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Such a beautiful man. While all my peers were obsessing over New Kids on the Block and Bros, I was totally in love with Roger.

[–]bleunt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Good call. Swooning over NKOTB is barking up the wrong tree. Eminem told me.

[–]kirabean 14 points15 points  (0 children)

He looked prettier than the girl he was imitating

[–]teenagesadist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Roger Taylor, Taylor Hawkins,...

Hmm.

[–]reduke 21 points22 points  (1 child)

It was popular enough for Don Cornelius to play on Soul Train

[–]BushWeedCornTrash 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As a young white kid in NYC at the time.... I fucking loved soul train.

[–]Bigcats30 69 points70 points  (21 children)

America so free they ban anything remotely different

[–]Vorsos 20 points21 points  (5 children)

We had to dub the British cartoon Stressed Eric into American. We had to remake British sitcom The IT Crowd with an American. Both were miserable failures. Maybe let Brits Brit and show it here unaltered?

[–]BananaDilemma 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Sometimes it works; see the office us. But that's only because they went in a completely different direction I guess

[–]vipros42 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Ever see the American version of Fawlty Towers? Jesus that was bad.

[–]CompleteNumpty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or Red Dwarf - that was an abomination.

[–]alph4rius 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The American Episode of The IT Crowd is brilliant absurdist humour. Replacing the entire cast, hiring a bunch of American actors to replace them just for one episode, except for one guy who's exactly the same, and having everyone do the lines verbatim? Amazing, it's like a weird looking glass version of the show. Pity that you any always do high concept stuff. . .

[–]CodePervert 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was The Inbeteeeners a failure too? I know the English one was pretty fantastic and that there was going to be an American version but I didn't hear much more than that.

[–]kangareagle 8 points9 points  (9 children)

It was a company that (supposedly) didn’t show their video. Yes, companies in the US are certainly free to make those decisions.

The song got plenty of play in the US and made it to #48, which is pretty good.

[–]more863-also 21 points22 points  (3 children)

No our monopolistic corporations ban it, what do you think we are, commies?

[–]bleunt 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Isn’t the FCC government though?

[–]kalekayn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ran by corporate shills effectively coughajitcough

[–]Fatoldguy 29 points30 points  (3 children)

I saw this video on MTV. IT reached 45 on the Billboard chart and was on it for 8 weeks. So it was more popular than most.

[–]stonygirl 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I also saw this video on MTV.

[–]A_Bear9677 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I saw it on Friday Night Videos. We couldn’t afford cable but my dad could set the VCR timer and would record the music videos and we would watch them all together as a family. I remember thinking that video was funny and the tune was super catchy. I still sing it every time I vacuum. Lol!

[–]JohnnyEnzyme 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good point. I'm thinking another couple reasons for its solid-but-not-great popularity in the USA is that 1) it's not one of their better hits IMO; 2) it's something of an anti-oppression anthem, which wasn't much of a theme in America in 1984.

So in the end, MTV banning it might not have been such a big factor. Most people would have been hearing it over the airwaves, after all, not via MTV.

[–]sparkchaser 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is such a great song.

[–]A40 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Because Milton Berle, Flip Wilson, etc never Liked it Hot. American television remains unsullied, God be praised.

[–]TheChronocide 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don’t forget Tom Hanks and Peter Scolari. Bosom Buddies was a network comedy which completely revolved around cross-dressing men.

[–]MisterGrieves 7 points8 points  (1 child)

That isn’t true. I remember this song and video playing on mtv.

[–]Quarque 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same here, the video was quite amusing.

[–]Purplekeyboard 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is false.

I remember watching it on MTV back when it came out.

[–]blrghh 10 points11 points  (1 child)

This is not true. I remember seeing it on MTV plenty. It wasn't a hit because it just wasn't a hit.

[–]RudegarWithFunnyHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

heard about some numbers they had to play outside of the timespan, where younger audiences would be viewing, maybe it was the same with that.

[–]firstwork 28 points29 points  (7 children)

I challenge this opinion, as MTV wasn't so popular that songs needed to be played there in order to be a big hit. It's more due to the American music tastes of that time didn't exactly mirror the rest of the world. Making MTV the scapegoat for the lack of huge success for this song is dubious at best.

[–]Cjlaw72 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Thank you.

[–]Jackandahalfass 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Yes, the fact is after their LP Hot Space, Queen was basically considered uncool in the States. Younger bands like Duran Duran had stolen their fire. “Radio Ga-Ga” off The Works got them airplay and a return to the Top 40, but they were not given the universal respect they know today. Their Live Aid performance was amazing but it didn’t vault Queen back into American hearts. Carry-over bands from the ‘70s were having a tough time in general. The power of Queen’s back catalog and the death of Freddie finally woke people up to what a treasure that band is.

[–]Cjlaw72 2 points3 points  (2 children)

A Kind Of Magic was a bit successful here in the states.

[–]Jackandahalfass 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Billboard No. 46, compared to No. 23 for Hot Space, 22 for The Works and No. 1 for The Game just six years earlier.

[–]biobasher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The power of Queen’s back catalog and the death of Freddie finally woke people up to what a treasure that band is.

The worst part is finding one of their live concerts on YouTube and knowing we're never going to get that level of omfg again.

[–]AlmanzoWilder 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But I'm pretty sure that's where I saw it. ???

[–]duffkiligan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Platinum Collection came out when I was 10 and I was obsessed with Queen.

I first heard this song on that album actually and I couldn't figure out why I had never heard it before. It's such a perfect song.

It's my favorite Queen song, and now it makes sense why so few people know this compared to their others.

[–]PioneerAT 15 points16 points  (5 children)

As a dude, I still sing this when I vacuum the house.

[–]pyrowolf8 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Good thing you were confident enough with your masculinity to shoehorn in the fact you’re a dude.

[–]jrheehrr 5 points6 points  (2 children)

The original singers are dudes

[–]pahag 18 points19 points  (0 children)

No way??? Dudes in "Queen"??

[–]SneakySnek_AU 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No....you can't be seri.... What a revelation.

[–]ZamboniJ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I grew up in the 70s and liked Queen but somehow overlooked this song... Until I heard it on a TV commercial (I think for a cell phone company) within the last 3-4 years ... And glad I did. It remains one of my 'new' favorites.

[–]mlperiwinkle 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I had never heard it (and I couldn’t figure out why) until it was on ‘Sherlock.’ It was like finding a treasure! Thanks for the explanation. Sad about the US back then. (And for some of the USnow). 💙🌈

[–]kangareagle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It got to #48, and got plenty of airplay at the time.

[–]PilotKnob 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When I was 15 years old I did a short foreign exchange program in Germany. My host "brother" introduced me to Queen - Greatest Hits.

We wore that damned record out, and I still associate it with that trip.

I wondered why I hadn't heard many of the songs before. Now I realize that Queen was effectively censored in my ultra-religious (fundamentalist Lutheran) corner of the U.S.

One of our indoctrination programs at the Lutheran school I went to was a traveling show which taught the dangers of rock 'n' roll and tried very hard to associate Satanism with it. One of my clearest memories of the presentation was the display of the cover art of "News of the World" with the giant robot dipping its bloody finger in the little people. It made an impression, but not a Satanic one. More of a "that's weird, but I've seen worse" thing.

In a way it's a shame that it took me so long to discover Queen's music. But in a way I'm also grateful because it allowed me to have only positive associations with them.

[–]LookingintheAbyss 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Fucking Puritans.

[–]wholeblackpeppercorn 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Only after marriage, buddy.

[–]acidjogger 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Kudos to freddy for being like 2018 level open about himself and his sexuality.

[–]sgmctabnxjs 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Really? I don’t think he was.

[–]acidjogger 4 points5 points  (1 child)

In this instance he was being so open that many countrys governments put earmuffs and blindfolds on people.

[–]Imapie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Freddy was in the closet, and men dressing as ladies was a British comedy staple, as was being camp.

Remember the whole band were dressed as ladies and in a band called “queen” and they’re all straight.

[–]umop_apisdn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The group was called Queen FFS.

[–]sgmctabnxjs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not being funny but to teenage me in the 80s that wasn’t anything to do with the act, I didn’t even know the term. They were relatively reclusive as a band, in a different league to all the pop stars and celebrities.

[–]philster666 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It didn’t go to No.1 in America. The reason: America is America

[–]hackersaq 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Beavis & Butthead is fine though. Aeon Flux, Ren & Stimpy, etc.

Cartoon horse answers the door wearing stretched out nipples as clothes - can't have a musician in a dress, tho. Nope.

[–]Abe_Vigoda 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You got to love how you can get upvotes for completely made up bullshit as long as it fits the political narrative.

[–]MarshallTom 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Another reason it is funny when Americans think they live in the land of the free

[–]kangareagle 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Because a company in the US supposedly decided not to play a video.

Yawn.

[–]MarshallTom -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

Lol ok

[–]kangareagle -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Actually... “lol ok” is what I should have said to your comment. Thanks for the tip!

[–]similar_observation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not even the whole video. What about the weird stage dance sequence?

[–]iworkallday 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weakest fist-pump-"yeah" ever at 1'33.

Great track/vid otherwise.

[–]HadHerses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh... Always loved the video but never seen Corrie so had no clue it was taking off that! I thought it was just a craic at British life in general!!

[–]timothj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rolling Stones cross-dressing album cover, pre-MTV.

[–]GodOfAllAtheists 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then why do I remember watching it?

[–]rhaneyjr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We still don't like crossdressers here

[–]cheshiredoge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"land of the free", huh?

[–]aduanemc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was never a favorite of mine, but goddamn that synth solo is a slice of 80s pop heaven!

[–]thebolts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Odd, I could’ve sworn I remember seeing it on MTV in the US back in the 80s.

[–]ukralibre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did not know it either. We had no homofobia at the moment so it was like silly school party where boys and girls cross dress and mock each other.

Love it!

[–]coffeepi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Listening now

[–]Complyorbesilenced 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s amazing how things have changed. Now MTV won’t air videos at all.

[–]Shageen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never had cable but I watched “I Want to Break Free” on NBC’s “Friday Night Videos”. My parents would tape it on the VCR and I’d watch it Saturday mornings because it was the only way for me to watch music videos early on.

[–]iturnmenintobottoms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is my favorite queen song. Song played in my head all through the years I wanted to come out and as I did come out in some cases.

[–]xiphoidthorax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We had no issues with this in Australia. I guess Sydney being the National Gay capital had something to do with it.

[–]comradequicken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doubt. MTV played twisted sister videos

[–]Rob_in_Tulsa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is false. The video was played extensively by multiple networks.

[–]LoveBulge 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wasn’t MTV not going to run Michael Jackson’s Thriller because he was black, until they were pressured by an ABC exec?

[–]prjindigo 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Could you imagine if MTv found out they were also gay?

My god!

[–]Privateer781 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Freddie was. The others aren't.

[–]Kingy_who 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Freddie was bi.

[–]mattemer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

FTFY - God's are forever

Freddie is bi

[–]Rob_in_Tulsa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To reinforce this. Freddie willed his fortune to a woman. That he said was the true love of his life.

[–]breaktime1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is up with MTV? How can you screw up playing music? When MTV finally came to Canada everyone was like.. This sucks.

[–]PaperSkinMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Way to be a bunch of fucking squares, MTV

[–]Sceptile90 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This, along with their previous album, Hot Space pretty much ruined Queen in America. The only two songs by them that would chart in America would be I Want It All in 1989 and the rerelease of Bohemian Rhapsody in 1992 following Mercury's death and the film Wayne's World