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level 1

Going long tencent today. Too diverse of a company with RSI bounceback in the next few months. Aug 15th 2nd quarter results will be strong

level 1
2 points · 1 month ago

Yesterday I picked up GPRO puts, ATVI calls, SEDG shares.

I'm really bad at this.

level 2

Start investing a month after earnings...not a day before

level 2

When are your ATVI calls?

level 3

8/10 75

level 4

Just hold tight man, it's gonna be a wild ride. I'm guessing we'll be back to normal tomorrow.

level 1

TTWO giving me back my money. Thank you secret meth lab.

level 1

Groupon getting its poop on!

level 2

short? or too late?

level 3

Probably too late at this point, it's already down 10%

level 1

God damn, these guys at the Energy Information administration have their heads so far up their ass.

Their last two reports about US oil production said it's "dramatically increasing" when in reality it's doing the complete opposite

God damn shlubs

level 1

So China retaliating on 60 billion. Cool. Is this what is tanking the dollar? Fuck me it was so close to breaking out.

level 1

Praying I get something from my AAPL puts that expire today

level 2

China just said they will retaliate with tariffs on $60 billion in US goods. You night get something.

level 1

I wanna buy calls on gun stocks for the 2020 election. Trump is probably gonna lose, when democrats win, gun stocks surge up and vice a Versa. Any one else agree?

level 2

lol, somehow he will be the underdog again, huh?

level 2

Buy some now and wait for the next mass shooting, gun sales always go up after because people think the "gubermint" are going to come take their guns

level 2

Is trump gonna lose though? If the economy is still going strong he wins IMO.

level 3

IMO people care whether he fuck a pornstar. So he gonna lose and no more tariffs no more wall no more party.

level 4
-5 points · 1 month ago(1 child)
level 5
1 point · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

Fuck both parties, they all fucking suck

Edit: you sound like a mouth breather

level 4

you realize this was known before the first time he was elected right?

level 5

you are right. So can the media stop to report that 24/7

level 4

Tard spotted. Trump is gonna win no matter what. All in baba Trump

level 1

SPY CALLS TO THE MOON TOMORROW. can i see 284 plz??

level 2

you might have autism, the SPY has seen 84% of its growth from 9 stocks YTD. The thing is designed to implode

level 3

Yeah you are right I should have gone all in on on puts even though all signs are showing big boi FD call gains today -_-

level 4

I mean short term you can certainly milk it, but its not currently viable for long term success imho

level 5

O no i agree 100%. I never hold my spy positions for more than like two days. Sold SPY puts yesterday and bought some calls in the AM as well. Will probably buy puts again if we are able to touch 284 or if 284 nears and gets rejected.

level 1
16 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

Got banned from r/personalfinance for giving "bad advice"

level 2

Low bar.

Get banned from WSB for giving good advice.

level 3

Get banned from WSB for making great memes

level 4

Got banned for mentioning MU calls

level 1

Im going to start researching and looking at stocks through my phone, does anyone recommend any of the apps on android for stocks

level 2

The graphs on RH are perfect

level 2
11 points · 1 month ago

$MU is always a safe bet also a robbinhood account is a smart choice. Make sure to get gold so you can leverage your money and hold better positions.

level 2

Sell all your stocks and by tsla if you want to live

level 3

Mu 70 calls 8/10 are a safer bet

level 4

Lmaoooo

level 1

How can I short Florida sugar cane? listening to the democratic governor nominees talk about "living wages".

level 1
Brave Girls Club - Lady of the Stool
7 points · 1 month ago

I'm all about those MVPS. MasterCard, Visa, PayPal , Square

level 2

Or you can max out your cash advance with your Amazon prime Visa, get the guaranteed 5% to pay for your food, use half to short spy as late in the day as you can tomorrow

level 1

How do people feel about TWTR and SNAP?

level 2

Both TWTR and FB gonna recover EOY because they are oversold. Solid buypoint at $32 for TWTR, but there are probably better-faster stocks that will give you a potential 20% upside.

It went down too much because they finally dealt with fake accounts and deleted most of them. That was a good thing, not a bad thing, and Street made a mistake.

SNAP is in my opinion gonna stagnate, until people realize that it has better user retention than FB group.

I would actually say that both TWTR and SNAP are in a better position than FB. Mainly because they are dealing with fake accounts. Everyone around me has "finstas".

level 3

FB PE 18: OK

TWTR PE 180: meh

SMAP PE: negative: fuck no

level 4

PE is not a valid parameter to use with tech growth stocks

level 3

finsta is a real account by a real person who doesn't want to use their main accoiunt. It's far diff then the bot accounts they are deleting.

level 3
3 points · 1 month ago

Fb is the new myspace long term puts ftw

level 4

Yeah but FB owns Instagram et al

level 3

A finsta is just a private account where people post their lewd behavior for their friends eyes only

level 4
1 point · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

Yes so what? Not the only use. They were made because people didnt want to follow private accounts, as those accounts are more aware of their followers. Easier to stalk with finstas. Also counts under active users.

level 5

people make finstas to post silly pictures for close friends, apart from their "serious" instagram, but yeah it does inflate user count

level 5

No they weren’t, I think you have no idea what you’re talking about. People can make multiple snapchats and multiple twitter accounts too.

level 6

Huh? Honey do your research and check out fake/real ratios for each of the social networks. FB is deeply infested. A person is double more likely to have a fake IG than Snap.

P.S. I worked at FB as an engineer.

level 7

yeah but people use finstas, the problem with real fake accounts is no one real is using them to generate real ad exposure and those fake account aren't used as often

level 8

Okay yes.

But I've heard of people buying FB likes and Insta followers/likes. I havent heard of people buying Snapchat friends.

level 9

Imma be honest I don't know how the buying effects ads and stuff. I will say though that when I was promoting insta pages(this is anecdotal so I can't say much for the whole), I used a program that automated interaction with accounts(ie. auto-liking and following) to generate traffic from real accounts rather than just buying interaction.

level 10

Yes it is automated interaction. If you use that account normally, but there is a 3rd party app that is authorized to use it and automate it, it is no longer a "real" account. Those 3rd party services like Social Liker etc. are usually just using the account youre trying to boost to boost other accounts on the network. Just like p2p.

level 3
Brave Girls Club - Lady of the Stool
1 point · 1 month ago

FB has some interesting stuff in thier development pipeline. But it's long way off from revenue generation

level 4

They will end up buying SNAP or TWTR.

FB is just not relevant for news anymore, TWTR is.

level 1

hold 8/17 $300 TSLA put until DTE or sell that bish?

level 2

Hold till 8/18 before selling

level 2
-9 points · 1 month ago(1 child)
level 3

U clearly don't know what FD means

level 1
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level 2

The tech company? Mostly government contracting.

level 1

What's up with GDDY? that looks bad im scared

level 2

Weird one beat earnings and all I heard during the call was double digit growth. Buying some discount calls tomorrow.

level 2

Haha :) beat earnings :) strong business outlook :)

level 3
2 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

yaa but a ~5% drop AH thou :)

Edit after seeing the turnaround: Phewwwwwwwwwww~ Geez GDDY

level 4

My tendies are dissipating and I don't know why lmao

At this point I'm kinda hoping for a tariff tweet. Or just something to help me rationalize the drop

Edit YO FUCK

level 1

Any thoughts on Yamana Gold? Took a good dip today thinking about buying some.

level 2

Jeezus. No! Mineral extraction is the worst industry. Low margins. Commodity product. High risk.

If you insist on investing in gold (let’s be honest, because you’ve been listening to the commercials of US AM talk radio) then at least invest in a streaming corporation to have some indirection and a layer of inherit DD rather than owning all the risk directly.

level 3

Thank you for the suggestion. I certainly don't listen to AM radio I'm just new. I would rather choke myself with a pitchfork than listen to NPR.

level 2

Yamana is worth the bet. They just opened new mine in Argentina that is performing better than expected and is expected to continue to grow. If gold prices rise (very possible with a dip in overall stock market in Q3) bottom line will be even better.

level 3

MY NAMES RON PAUL AND HERE IS WHY YOU NEED TO OWN GOLD

level 3

It's a bet boys

level 2

What is this? A gold play that isn't JNUG or JDST?

Seriously though I'm watching GDX for a bottom

level 3

Yes once GDX bottoms and AUY becomes dirt cheap I'm going to scoop. Company has pretty good financials y/y and gold is probably going to appreciate with the possible correction coming up.

level 4

Aren't we sill in a correction? S&P is still below ATH

level 1

CVS puts are queued for tomorrow am

level 1

Have they busted TTWO for their meth lab yet?

level 1

GPRO, keep it fucking going tomorrow after earnings!

level 2

dont wanna be a douche but I called it in this thread this morning

level 3
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7 points · 1 month ago

want a cookie?

level 4

no i want a call contract on Groupon too

level 2
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level 3

GPRO is a dumpster fire.

No fucking way they survive long term.

level 4

In it strictly for the short-term call gains

level 5

Gotchu fam! As long as we're getting to keep Miranda Kerr while Evan cries when SNAP burns down...

level 2

When is their earnings call tomorrow?

level 3

look at their investor relations page

level 3

Earnings call is right now. Hoping it shoots this bitch to $7 or $8 tomorrow

level 4

And it's red. I wonder what's being said.

level 5

Maybe something like, "Hi, we make cameras in little plastic boxes. We have absolutely no moat. Other camera companies like Nikon or Cannon could do what we do, and probably better, starting tomorrow if they wanted to. We exist mostly on hype. Wish us luck!"

level 6
2 points · 1 month ago

This

level 1

Not sure why SYMC got slammed so hard AH. EPS beat by a cent and it only saw revenue dip from 1.18B to 1.16B during all their crazy auditing/Investigation.

level 2

Also the fact that Google is gonna remove Symantec from the list of trusted CAs in Chrome starting October is gonna hurt a lot, old news but now that the deadline is coming up shit's real

level 2
4 points · 1 month ago

the cybersecurity market is crowded now and Symantec is far from a sure thing. declining revenue in a growing industry is not a good sign. besides a couple acquisitions like Blue Coat, their products are pretty worthless imo. i still haven't heard an update on that audit thing either

level 1

What's up with SHAK, can't find anything negative in their earnings report

level 1

Wtf ATVI

level 2

Patience young padawan.

level 2
6 points · 1 month ago

Already coming back up

level 3

Scooped up shares of ATVI and SHAK with the small rest of my free cash on the dips.

level 1

RIP my puts on HLF, was up a good bit before the bell yesterday... what I get for being greedy, always close the position before ER

level 2

Bill Ackman salutes you

level 2
dgaff21 says your penis tastes like marshmellows
3 points · 1 month ago

I'm really curious how much money has been lost shorting HLF

level 3

A lot lol. I closed my naked short before ER though, just stupidly didn't think that report would send it above 55...

I still have 2 weeks and 7 weeks on the other. Also caught FB options at the literal bottom, which is how I justified it.

Still feel dumb though, thought it was a freebie play, like worst case scenario I thought I'd just lose my gains... but nope.

level 1

sell or hold my 9/21 $SQ calls

level 2

Same boat. Have $70 9/21 up 37%. If I get to 50% by end of day, def selling. Not sure about holding through weekend though even though I have time.

level 3

I agree, i’m not sure if I should hold because I have time or sell just to lock in profits and then re-enter later on.

Maybe roll the dice tomorrow and go with whatever it lands on

level 4

Sell half or two thirds if you want to stay. can avg down later esp if you're long, which I am. might pick up a few dec/jan calls.

level 1

$FND prayer circle fam

level 1

Bought 1 call like an idiot but made S T R A I G H T G A I N Z

level 1

Why are my post immediately removed? I want to post a DD on BIDU..

level 2
was raped by theta
4 points · 1 month ago

Did you tag the post as DD?

level 3

As soon as I post, it gets removed.

level 1
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level 2

I saw it at ~50% earlier....popping up $0.50 AH!!

level 3
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level 4
2 points · 1 month ago

So probably sell first in the morning huh?

level 2

AH stock price is popping off due to ER. Must not have been as bad as thought

level 1

After hours sell off is a go :(

level 1
3 points · 1 month ago

Twitter calls all up so much!!! Let's fucking go

level 1

Some stocks I think people should look into.

Biotelemtry (BEAT). Biotech stock, makes heart monitors and is currently partnered with apple for their apple heart study.

Teledoc (TDOC). Tele-health service. people can talk to doctors online to get Rx, advice, etc. They use their smartphone, or computer. The new sensors in watches, phones, etc are enabling more and more medicine to be able to be done online. This is growing stock and I expect them to grow for the foreseeable future.

Ecolabs (ECL). Set it and forget it stock (just like ron popeil says) if you wanna hold something for the next 10 years. They have good global footprint, good growth in multiple sectors, and decent dividend.

Fastenal (FAST). Growing building supplier company. Very popular in the midwest. Has been growing steady, and always recovers nicely after drops. Dividend also.

level 2

Fastenal (FAST). Growing building supplier company. Very popular in the midwest. Has been growing steady, and always recovers nicely after drops. Dividend also.

I work for a contracting company and we've recently switched to them because they have hella dedication

level 2

I actually used teledoc and was thinking the same. Very easy process, didn't have to leave house or wait in line at clinic.

level 3
2 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

Yup. Of Teledoc, American Well, Doctor On Demand, and MDlive. I think only Teledoc is public, but they are all growing incredibly fast. American Well just got a huge investment from Aetna and Samsung, and they power Samsung Health and the Apple Heart Study.

Teledoc stock has been super good to me in the last year though. Its not a get rich quick stock, but if you want solid growth def something to look into.

level 4

Big yes on Teledoc. I get it thru my insurance and it’s pretty great. Saved at least a few unnecessary trips to the ER.

level 3

Careful - Cramer has a soft spot for $TDOC

level 1
3 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

big internal debate going on right now. Believe everything is rallying due to AAPL, trying to decide if I should finally sell my long calls (MSFT 105 1/18/19) since they are finally green again. Or hold as I've been doing and take the risk of the market settling down and tanking tomorrow.

level 2

Microsoft is gonna hit 120 EOY. I'd say at least hold until end of the month man

level 2

That's everyone. I cant bring myself to sell quite yet. Great day but still a bit red overall this week. If tomorrow is modestly green ill be out.

level 3

i think a lot of people are going to hold and then the first hour or so will decide the trend of the day

level 4

Yea. holding through weekend seems risky when I can take my MSFT calls for decent gain.

level 1

God i cant sell my positions while im up a nice bit today because im still down overall with this shit week. Fuckkkkk. Here's to hoping Tech doesn't get completely fucked tomorrow.

level 2

I need tech to get completely fucked tomorrow. Fuck you Morgan Stanley. Who the fuck buys QQQ puts? Tripled down on this stupid shit now. Should go to the moon tomorrow for you bud.

level 3

Giant run up here at the end let me close some of my tech so it wont hurt so bad tomorrow if it does.

level 1
paid woman to shit in his mouth
11 points · 1 month ago

With my AMZN tendies, I went online and spent $100 to show Lord Bezos my appreciation for everything he’s done for us ....

level 2

You’ve made your offering, bezos spares you

level 2

renew prime, get that to that 12-0's

level 1
8 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

GOODBYE SPY CALLS, HELLO SPY PUTS

edit: it was a joke guys why would i ever sell my spy calls at that dip and buy spy puts LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT!!!#@

level 2

You like the abuse dont you, dirty boi

level 3

lmAO I wanna switch back now

level 1

are people holding pypl calls or selling?

level 2

dumped my 92 8/17 calls last week

level 2

Bagholding some 90 8/24 that I'm still down ~75% on. They had solid earnings and good guidance and got caught up in the tech slide. Unless we get meme'd by another tech dip I'm pretty confident this thing turns around.

That said, I've sold 90.5 8/24 after PYPL crashed so I'm thinking of that as making up the theta burn of my bagholding. Will try to close that leg quick if we get a couple solid days of green so I max my gainz.

level 3

ya i had some 8/17 90s that i was about 75% down on. sold today right before close because i didnt want to risk a sell off tomorrow. that was my first big loss in trading, but i think i can live with the gains i miss out on tomorrow, barring a huge spike

level 2

Bought 83.5 8/10's 10 min after the market opened this AM, now up 90%...

Thinking about holding but profits are tempting.. A lot of experts valuing the stock at $95+....

level 3

good shit ive been bagholding since last thursday so i decided to cut my losses and move on. pypl could easily get to 95 but highly doubt it does before september and especially not by 8/10

level 2
2 points · 1 month ago

I sold for 25% gain. Will buy again at dip at end of day or tomorrow.

level 1

5000 $55 Aug $MU calls traded -- probably bought -- 12:04pm @ $0.67. Now trading above $0.90.

I wish I had that large a scrotum bankroll that I could shrug off $335k if the trade went against me

level 2

Just bought some puts here, Nas going down all next week.

level 1
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level 2

guess you have two calls and that's it.

level 2

autistic comment right here

level 1
-6 points · 1 month ago(1 child)
level 2

it's a beast. don't fight it

level 1
0 points · 1 month ago

INTC 10.5 8/10 call, it will skyrocket just wait.

level 2

Why? Its a public secret that Apple is leaving Intel in 2019-20.

level 3

28core processors taking us to the moon.

level 4

LOL. Single-core (or per-core) performance is all that matters, and AMD realized that just now.

Core number is irrelevant, just like megapixel counts on cameras.

ARM is closing in on "real" CPUs and the border between CISC and RISC is gone. I wonder what Apple has in their sleeves, as the latest iPad Pro is stronger than a 2011 MBP.

level 5

Intel's rumored to release a date for the next generation of processors, supposedly they have ridiculously high clock speeds. They probably wouldn't be released until 2019, but ill bank on them being announced soon. So call intel 70$ 6/21/19

level 6

They can't even ship the 10nm processors they "released"

level 6
2 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

Again, high clock speeds don't tell the entire story.

2 core @ 1.3 Ghz in an iPhone is more powerful than an 8 core @ 2.0 Ghz in most Androids.

level 1

I can’t believe it, JD didn’t shit the bed for once AND on a tarrif Thursday . What gives?

level 1

Sell SQ calls or hold? I'm thinking this is a multi-day run.

level 2
was raped by theta
1 point · 1 month ago

I took the 50% on my 1/18/19 calls. Will watch the stock tomorrow for an entry point

level 2

I’m sure hoping it is, i’m with you on wether to sell or hold

level 2

Average up my dude just in case trump tweets tomorrow, you'll hate yourself otherwise

level 1

10Yr holds at 2.988 and we may have some more juice for power hour.

level 1

If I had to guess, I think we're all gonna suffer some crazy whip lash tomorrow. This is all yay aapl 1 trillion hype. But USD is looking like it'll break out again, interest rates are heading up, and FAANG is badly wounded. I just don't see this continuing. But I'm not shorting either, the woohoo aapl 1 trillion euphoria could last into next week too, in spite of the dollar. All I know is I have the most money in options I've ever had in UUP calls since its most recent low, and I'm looking forward to the next few weeks here.

level 2

I agree, I'm a little apprehensive of tomorrow so I may sell a bunch of my positions and just sit in cash until China retaliates.

level 2

What makes you think the USD is gonna break out again? Genuinely curious and I'm a bit apprehensive right now too.

level 3

The interest rate on the 10 year cracking 3% again showing that wasn't a one off event. Also a bull MACD cross on the monthly and daily charts. And this bullish consolidation on the weekly. Daily/hourly showing a straight line resistance at 95.15 we just crossed today and all higher lows below this resistance along a well defined trend line with at least 4 reactions on the hourly chart. I really, really like this set up right now.

level 3

This

level 1

Thoughts on $PZZA puts?

level 2

Schnatter ain't coming back. My guess is that this wasn't a one time thing.

level 2

Now is probably a good time to go long if anything... all the bullshit with the owner doesn’t change that pizza tastes good

level 3

Depends on how that lawsuit plays out. He will most likely lose but the PR disaster and legal fees could drag em a bit lower first.

level 1

One of you fucks made a stupid joke about GE "reaching around and finding its bottom" a while ago before it spiked a little and I didn't get it until now. But I made like 80% on those calls so thanks. Also went back in.

level 2

Go all in on GE bro, its ike 100 years old, it's unkillable its like saying Sears is gonna go out of business

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