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Daily Discussion - November 21, 2017

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0 points · 8 months ago

Don't fall in love with any coin. Gl

What about the team? Can I love them?

WTC chart really feels like NEO did between 6/20/17 - 7/30/17. Slightly lower highs every week or so, but stable support during that period. NEO was accumulating that whole time and HODLers were handsomely rewarded.

I won't even pretend to know how or why WTC price is being suppressed, but people are buying at current levels and it appears we are currently at a strong support level/floor.

I imagine (like many others) that we'll be flat until WTC's code is made public. As shareholders, our real risk is that the code is not/never made public. I believe the probability of that is less than 5% as the WTC has shown better and more frequent communication.

Once the genesis block and code goes live, WTC's market cap will definitely shoot past 200million, probably pop past $500million, or hopefully moon past $2 billion :)

Hang tight and ride this pony. It's going to be a wild ride.

Just because your coin is not mooning every day does not mean price is 'suppressed'. WTC just had a great run even in the temporary bear market.

I was looking at the same range on the NEO chart yesterday and had similar thoughts. I've come to think that periods like these are healthy for the growth of any asset. Investors who are up 3-5x steadily move out while new investors move in, setting the floor for the next rise. This takes time, and is sometimes painful for holders. Investors buying in at this point are the smart ones who can see an undervalued asset for what it is.

I was told to never take a loan out for crypto.

I calculated that if I took a loan out of my 401k, I’d finally have enough for a masternode...

Probably not worth the risk... right? I mean... I’m still 25... got a lot of time to make up for big mistakes... Right? 😅

Don’t do it, it’s insane. You are simultaneously betting on WTC taking off and a masternode being profitable. Imagine the scenario it’s not and you’re working away in the real world to pay it all off. You won’t be able to sleep at life. Get a grip!

What an awful idea....

What an awful idea....

If you can handle the payments back into 401k, and willing to take a risk then go for it. Don't listen to those 'traditional' thinkers, crypto is the future, but they are volatile so they could dip for a bit so don't expect a home run out of the gate.

Took a loan on ETH in April because the TA and FA looked good. My only suggestion is do your due diligence OP.

8 points · 8 months ago

I cashed out my 401k although it was last year, im not much older than you.. I figured I was young enough to recover if it didn't work out. We are being programmed to take no risks in life.

How were your results with cashing out your 401k?

5 points · 8 months ago

2500% return so far

Dayum nice!! How??

ETH and NEO would be my guess

Personally I wouldn't take out a loan for Crytpto, I mean Crypto is so volatile and it's hard to watch the Price swings when it's Profits from Previous Trades invested in a Currency, Let alone Money that has been borrowed that you need to pay back.

I know Walton looks amazing and it is IMO but I still wouldn't take the risk dude. It's still a Crypto after all and heavily dependent on the Market as a whole.

We obviously all know how crypto in general is very volatile.

But we also know that WTC is just about as low as it can get until the blockchain is released and when things get going.

I just can’t see it going that much further below it’s current price.

  1. Take out loan

  2. Buy enough to reach the 5,000 WTC total

  3. Wait for masternodes to release and then stake for a year while incrementally paying back my 401k.

  4. After a year I will have earned from the masternode.

  5. After a year, I would hope that the price of WTC increased by several times its current value.

  6. Pay off loan for a lot less WTC than i initially purchased in step 2.

  7. Run masternode for life.

Hey I said "personally". I am balls deep into WTC and Crypto in General have been for a while, Invested allot of FIAT into it and also have made allot of Gains from all sorts platforms/currencies And I am mostly confident that WTC will do great things next year, Easy hold for me. Price fluctuation doesn't worry me too much at the moment and we all know the reasons behind this low price so I am also taking advantage of this.

If you have a plan and have some Balls of steel and are not worried about the price short term I also think it can be a great move. All Crypto is risky as the whole market can crash with the most stupidest of news and recover extremely quickly.

If you really want to have that Masternode and are confident I say go for it! i'm not sure about the whole tax thing as we don't have 401K here but if you've weighed the pros and cons and the risk and are set on doing it than yeah for sure!!

Best of luck too us all!!

I have a few more ICO's hitting exchanges soon looking good for some large gains, if they do and the price for WTC is still sitting where it is, I have a Whale Bot's Ass in my sights I fucking hate that thing lol! Gonna try and take a large chunk of some cheap Walton while I still can :)

Thanks for the response

I’m totally down to make the move with my 401k.

High risk high reward. I’m risking 2 years of 401k (which could be a lot considering compounding) versus the ability to retire faster! Lol

But. I know the process will take more than a couple weeks from getting the loan, to putting it on GDAX to buying ETH to sending it to Binance, to make the trade.

My only fear at this point is if the price already blows up during the process!

If it was an instant process, I’d have done it already.

Fiat to crypto just isn’t as fast as I would want it, and I think that might be one of the only things realistically holding me back.

Cool man, you sound like you've at least thought about it haha, I just get worried seeing a post like yours and know full well your going to have a Large amount of people just yelling FUCK YEAH DOO ITT lol.

So yeah I mean if you can live with losing that amount of money (worse case scenario) then by all means. In saying all of that the Crytpo money I have made has always been high risk high reward, Holding Heavy ass Bags of Walton through the China FUD/Binance Delisting FUD was kind of nerve racking but I knew the worse outcome... No more Walton (maybe).... and I knew the best outcome.... We still are no where near the best outcome yet.. But I believe in the team and the Project! I feel like next year is going to Be Walton's year !!

Follow your Heart and if it's for a Masternode I hope you get it and I hope it all works out for the best.


Still weighing out the necessity of me having a Masternode. But I’m basically halfway to owning one.

However, like one guy said, I’m hypothetically risking a lot for a hypothetical masternode that could hypothetically make me some hypothetical money. Lol.

I just think people can’t look at it as if I could lose it ALL... I’m pretty damn sure as long as WTC doesn’t pull a “Confido” move on us then I technically can’t lose 100% of it. And i’m certain they won’t do that lol.

Not that I’m telling you what to do, but I did that. Figure it’s my money anyway and it was making like 12% A YEAR sitting in there so not much to lose really.

How are your results thus far with your loan?

up 30% or so. Didn't keep enough in BTC and ETH, but had some nice plays here and there.

9 points · 8 months ago

I would do it, depending on the tax consequences. However, I do unadvisable things sometimes in the spirit of yolo. So long as you are prepared to lose it, might be the best financial thing you ever did.

Expect 50% tax bill.

From taking out a loan?

Yes! Anytime you take a loan expect a big tax bill from 401k.

Not correct. A loan from 401k is not a taxable event as you are paying the money back, with interest to the 401k. Only if you withdraw without rolling over to another retirement type account would you be required to pay taxes.

Doesnt it get added to your total income though? Then i will pay regular income tax on it.

It is not income unless you stop making payments on the loan. For instance, if you lose your job you would have to pay the remainder of the loan balance off immediately or it would be considered income. The bad thing about taking out a loan on your 401K is that you are paying back pre-tax money with taxed money. So, in effect, you are paying taxes on it now and again when you withdraw it. Still, if WTC even doubles or triples, it would be worth it. If we get a 10x or 20x moonshot it would turn out to be a brilliant move. However, as you know, if it takes too long and you miss the takeoff, you are screwed!

That's what I meant a withdrawal.

Really not a good idea

On the other hand though, fucking brilliant idea

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When was your loan? In the last year there was only a couple times where it wouldn't have made sense. Mid June and late August if I remember correctly.

September.... Then got killed by china, I broke kinda evenish with hodling, dca'ing and mostly Walton saving my ass.

You’re right. What did you loan for if I may ask?

I only got motivated when I ran into this:

This guy would have upwards of $736,000 if he didn’t sell it. Hindsight 20/20 though.

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ETH is one of the most stable coins right now.. It is going to go up at a steady rate so you can expect that you will return just fine.

But the problem is paying for your loan.. you have to pay it in USD I'm assuming? Well selling crypto to USD is going to be a tax cut right there. IDK how much your loan you took out was but it just seems like it's best to stay away from loans and credit when dealing with investments.. but you know there is always stories of people making millions of dollars.

Yes I have a fulltime job and can afford to pay the loan back.

I figured WTC can’t get that much lower... has only one way to go and that’s UP.

Unless the project doesn’t get traction long term...

Ouch. Sorry man.

I personally wouldn’t take a loan out on a strong price surge. I do however like making investments at solid low points.

just do it. If you lose it all it will be a good lesson. If you hit it big it will be worth it

Implying there's a lesson to be learned for the stupidity involved in taking this type of risk, but saying it will be worth it if he hits big? What kind of rationale is that

Quite frankly we're going back to <$4

Sadly I have to agree. I got in around $1 so am way up still but until Walton releases the blockchain nothing is going to send this coin north of $6. I think we test $3.75-$4 via a slow bleed with a pump to $10 in January with the blockchain (assuming it’s on time) release and $15-20 if we ever hit a big exchange like Bittrex Now is the time to accumulate!!!

3 points · 8 months ago

Any chance that the public beta test will lead into a potential Bittrex listing? Assuming that the codebase becomes available on Github etc

The team has a github. Just saying. Nothing there really, but it’s there. For alpha testing some stuff was there.

This is something that I do not understand. You have a great code. Why put it on GitHub where somebody can copy it, fork it, whatever they want? I have a lot to learn I know. I just don't get sharing the code.

BTC has been pumping the last few days, nothing else has changed to affect the price of WTC.

3 points · 8 months ago

Thats more than enough to send wtc sub 4 bucks

6 points · 8 months ago · edited 8 months ago

My thoughts exactly, should have sold at a loss yesterday... Now my bags are huge.

What exactly is your thought process though? Did you invest in WTC to make 10X in 8 hours or 8 months?

I fomo'ed into a pump that I stupidly believed was going to go on. I caught the tail end of it and was dumped on. I have never got in during a pump, but because it was so in the moment and the Chinese government was in bed with WTC I thought to strike while the iron is hot. Well fuck me because the pump lasted less than 5 mins and I got a big bag out of it. So yeah, I never go into pumps but I just got off my short lived neo ride and made 15% out of it just to lose it all and then some in WTC. Fuck me right!

Not the chinese gov, local gov to be exact.

Hey man - it happens :)

Many people here will bash you but I understand how it can be easy to make these type of decisions at the speed this space goes.

If you feel like you made a mistake, I hope you learned from your lesson and continue to hold WTC. You are the second person I see that saw they bought the pump but I have no idea what pump is being referred.. this is coming from a dude who checks CMC at least every 15 mins.

So ASCH won the cyberledger popularity competition with about 18817 votes, and WTC had 11262? Hopefully WTC will win overall.

Walton and Asch should both win 50/50 for this part of the competition as between them they probably have 95% of the whole votes or something stupid like that. Even though Asch cheated.... maybe... allegedly... probably...

They got thousands of votes in few hours .. so rigged and fishy

Yep. Not hard to win paying for votes.

what happened to the walton memes? Who was doing those? Could we get a few more to help pass the time?

fucking this. I dont care about my money. I want these me-mes.

LOL man i am evil for saying this, But I just love the big shitstorm at the neo subreddit right now. I think its crazy that they are angry at the Neo council for saying that they would make an annoucement in a few days. but then again they are ones crafting these crazy theories that China will bless neo as their nationalcryptocoin or some other crazy shit. And this is the endresult of this fake hype and futurelooking posts, a lot of people getting burned big time. That`s why its useless to make future predictions of any kind, and just focus on what is happening right now. Or atleast talk about it without hyping the matter.

what funny is wtc is the one with the local gov contract, not neo, hahaha

3 points · 8 months ago · edited 8 months ago

I wish people would take notice! We need to be on more exchanges both for exposure and availability since binance highly impairs a cryptos growth so much. Even is we manage to go upward, binance bots will stunt our potential. More exchanges are needed prior to us going live.

They are complaining over in Ethtrader how we “censored” someone’s post that was concerning for future of Waltonchain. What is that post? Genuinely curious...

Was removed but readded.

Ladies and gentleman this rubber band of WTC market tension is palpable... This sell wall is going to get popped soon.

I agree it's just a matter of time. What's interesting is when it rises in relation to all the great stuff happening in January/February. I would imagine that big traders would like a few more large waves in December but time is getting thin!

2 points · 8 months ago

hope you're right. why should it pop?

  • WTC is consecutively traded in top 25 for volume right now... it’s at 62 market cap? And It’s been in the top 10 in the past. Volume to cap is between 2x-3x

  • The sell walls are artificial. Sells have stalled around .013 Eth/ wtc for days now.

  • I personally know investors that are having a hay day at current WTC pricing (past 3 days) that plan to HODL.

  • Really great news, partnerships, and tech challenges being won.

  • Working prototype and live demo of blockchain and RFID

  • Their team is vetted and there are hardware patents coupled with software ownership... a perfect opportunity for another huge corporation (if WTC wanted) to sell. This is one of the only blockchain companies that a PE Firm would right now purchase.

  • Probably the most undervalued crypto IMO at this point.

If it doesn’t pop now (likely soon) I’ll just keep buying more ha!

$85 by February

Well besides the volume being fake, I agree. Still the most undervalued crypto, currently. Rank 62 is atrocious for what Walton is. Should be top 20.

its undervalued, but stay away from most undervalued..

Honestly (IMO) it is the MOST undervalued. Their market cap based off current design and team is worth 200mil. Case study... cruise automation. With less technology stack and no blockchain capability GM purchased them for over 1 billion$. 200 mil is small fries for the connections, technology, traction, and team they already have. I’m telling you, big banks, big corps, amazon, everyone is looking for blockchain experts right now. I could see an Apple / amazon picking up one of These companies just from the mere fact to learn more from a team. It’s happened in the past.

How would an acquisition in crypto work? Do they just buy up all the tokens?

There are different entities, xiamen, silicon that could easily sell off the tech and leave token holders high and dry. Just as what happened with cfd, the same could happen to the wtc.

Srsly cfd is a scam, they ran away with the money, do not compare wtc with cfd.i was gonna invest in it but seeing they only want 400k reminded me of lust so i stayed away.

That’s a good question, I’m sure it would be an interesting process. One that will most definitely happen. I’ll leave it up to the M&A experts.

I can't think of any others that are more undervalued at Walton's current rank. If Walton jumped to top 50, then I would say one of the most undervalued.

50$ in 2018 Q1??

20$ by Q1

At least?

Atleast 20$ in march

what about Modum? its another undervalued project to moon soon.

its sad but people rather investing in some unreal project like omg and qtum instead of wtc and modum.

Yeah I rather do WTC and modum than omg and qtum


He means in a month and a half. I agree. I think it's gonna be a huge fomo rush at the last minute to get a masternode so people can start staking immediately from genesis block in february to have the highest seniority.

Right now people are shopping around with other coins while they wait for walton. Not all of them will get back in in time, and there will be fomo.

IMO it will happen much sooner. Big money won’t wait to play around. It will definitely not be a month and a half. (Just a thought)

Nice thought

In my opinion, bitcoin will continue to suppress wtc's price for as long as possible. And with Bitcoin futures coming in December, big money is gonna be on bitcoin, not walton. bitcoin is going through the roof and unfortunately there's not much walton can do about it.

I certainly hope WTC doesn't lose any more sats, but I see it as possible and to be frank, quite likely. January/February price action is my prediction. I think we'll see 15 dollars.

I’m curious to see how this whole BTC rolls out. Some of the crypto ETFs coming out have diversified portfolios with specific investment requirements that will trade in the top 50 cryptos... BTC could take the limelight... but it may not. People that I have talked to about crypto recently are more interested in the “next bitcoin” as they don’t even understand what satoshis are and that you can buy fractions of bitcoin... as for BTC dominance... most of the people I know with large stacks are looking to diversify into higher reward coins before 2018. I think there are too many factors to say BTC will take over the scene. I do appreciate your input!

Right, and with Walton being rank 62, it's gonna be completely looked over when there are coins like Ethereum soaking up the spotlight, for now.

Eventually this new money will benefit Walton, but it will take time for investors to learn and expand to more obscure alts like Walton before it benefits. I stick to my prediction that Walton will not move against bitcoin in any significant way until it launches in January and has masternodes set up in february.

Right on! We will see! I’m sure you and I will continue to buy until then ❤️ so all smiles in February no matter what!

I'm tapped out of money, but I've been holding since early September through thick and thin, with no plans to sell any until at least next September. I'm confident this is the right hold.

Also, if the dividends are between 8-10%, as most people are expecting, then I really don't have any incentive to sell any at all since the dividends would be very attractive when WTC is around 15-20 dollars, and by next september, I can't see WTC being any less than 40.

100% agree. This whale keeps holding down the pressure right at .013 Eth/wtc. Just gobbled up a 6k buy wall. And the price holds as is

Masternodes will change the game. Such a strong incentive to accumulate and hold. We're getting close!

its sad but i do agree, and there hasnt been a big crash from bitcoin, so if theres a big crash, it will bleed even more.

Dash over 500! What exactly does Dash do anyway? Is it a Privacy coin with masternodes?

Anyways, Masternodes and Staking sound like the way forward with crypto. POW is too energy intensive. Excited for 2018!

Wtc can do a lot more. Do the maths..

got pumped by palm beach confidential report thats why

7 points · 8 months ago

Private payments. It’s an original fork of bitcoin with privacy and masternodes. It’s a good project. The creator is trying to make it feel like PayPal sending $. Ie making it easy so grandma can do it. Ambitious but I hope they succeed. I own none btw.

Re. the angel investors and a potential dump - I would think any investor who put up a very significant amount of their own money into this project would believe in its long term potential and how big Waltonchain could get years down the line. So it would be incredibly surprising to see them dump a large amount of their holdings while WTC is still a baby. These guys are smart. Maybe there'll be a little short lived selling pressure, but nothing drastic I wouldn't think.

2 points · 8 months ago · edited 8 months ago

Have you ever thought that those who wash trades WTC are the angel investors? You can always see ~100k units of WTC being wash trades on binance while thousand of thousand of $$ are being donated to binance as tx fees. Why would someone even do that at the first place? The only reason that make sense to me is that the angel investors are constantly dumping their money in as tx fees to raise the volume and popularity of wtc. Tx fees wouldn't matters when they are still 4x their initial investment now. They just need to make sure high volume of wtc until their assets get unlocks.

Actually, at $5, a 100k WTC wash trade would only be 250 dollars in transaction fees since Binance fees are only 0.05% per trade.

Yeah what I meant is you can see people with 100k units of wtc constantly wash trading the volume for a lot of time in a day. 100k is just a rough estimation.

Yeah, I counted 570k wtc in an hour.

Yeah, so the reason of wash trading wtc now? Don't think normal whale will do this.

This has been going on for a long time, so I have no reason to suspect that it's anything but typical whale tactics. It's just to fake the volume being traded so the coin looks more attractive. It's just a manipulation/accumulation tactic.

Angel investors haven't had access to their coins for as long as this manipulation has been going on, so it's not them.

Yeah. This has been going on since it was started. Doubt the typical whales will need to wash trade wtc as there are better pump and dump coins outside. Angel investors coins are not unlocked yet but they can easily create a new account on binance and start depositing to wash trades. So it would make sense why wash trading has been going on for months because their assets aren't unlock yet. They'll have to wash trades to keep the price up as their amount of investment is Big. Selling all of their coins at once will definitely crashes the market and this wouldn't be what they want. So the only way now is to wait for wtc to gain its volume and popularity over time before they can start selling. Doubt they'll sell all though. I think they are investing on a longer time scale. 10% of 5millions coins sell-off would make sense when their assets are unlocked.

-1 points · 8 months ago

All of these scenarios above sound unlikely. Angel investors probably have MASSIVE stakes in the coin. They can’t start to liquidate now without crashing the price and destroying investor confidence. The true volume on this coin is still low, so it wouldn’t take much.

Remember, they are not going to damage 90% of their investment just to cash out 10%. The angels are least of our concerns imo.

Bro, there's a lockup date for their investment for a reason. Why lock 3-12 months when you say there are there for long term investment? Might as well just lock for 2 years to have give higher confidence to the other investors? You are not the angel investors and you're speaking like 100% that they won't sell as if you're one of them. Another thing that Im delivering is that if they are not selling, I believe wtc will stay Bullish at least until March.

If they are the least concern. I doubt we have other things to worry. 😂

5 points · 8 months ago

I highly doubt its going to be even close to a 20% dump if anything, the chain hasn't even been released yet.. Also, most angel investors are likely very wealthy and don't care about a distributed 25 million dollars ( I'm not sure how many angel investors there are.)

People are getting worked up, understandably, because it's their money being impacted and the team hasn't commented. But keep in mind, MANY big coins have had huge premines (think dash) and they are doing fine.. The angel investors are investors and can do whatever they damn please..

There is a possibility this project would not be going as smoothly as it is now without angel investors. I would highly doubt they are going to ditch it now.

Thing is as a trader, I need to know when the coins will be unfrozen, because even without the sells, these coins will drop the price from 4.80 to 4 dollars at the same market cap.

Don’t think it’s going play out like that. It typically does not in crypto. If people are not rushing to sell it will not dilute the value.

You could either sit and wait, or buy now. In crypto you never know.. Maybe it will be 8 - 7 rather then 4.80 - 4, who knows? But hey, your bet

Shill, the coin's price is $4.86 at the moment. You can either buy it now, or STFU.

The emotional wreck strikes again.

What are you in love with me dude? Piss off.

Never that. I just see you being an absolute jerk to people, and I enjoy calling you out on it. I think people like you that talk trash on the internet need to be put in check. Coward.

1 point · 8 months ago · edited 8 months ago

No you are incorrect, the price won't be impacted if they don't add them to the market. i.e. sell.

if you don't understand this concept - I doubt you should be trading at all.

Theoretically, although impractical, he could be correct. If people evaluated the value of cryptos based on fundamentals then it could impact price. However, since it's primarily speculative and emotional then it probably won't.

Dear whales, I won't give you my precious Waltons, no matter how hard you dump, the truth will unfold at the end, We will informance

11 points · 8 months ago · edited 8 months ago

EDIT: Let's upvote the above link I have shared. Same info. But that one is on cryptocurrency subreddit.

Another day and Walton slays. More info on recent competition:

Guys, stop complaining about price not 'mooning'. This is a golden opportunity. I wish I had more money to invest.

dead link?

someone deleted my post.

wtf yeah I just saw you post the comment - that got deleted too?!

it's visible now?!



Are we going to sit here and ignore what timetobecomeaman just posted? Can we get some clarification from Walton. Anyone ask in the slack please ?

I've asked this question several times in this sub and it's been crickets. I'm not sure why people don't want to just objectively look at this. No one is saying they're just going to dump the coins and send the market down. That wouldn't be smart from anyone's perspective. One of the things that I want to know is how we're going to know they've been released and when will the supply be updated so a new market cap can be established. These are legit questions, and I can't imagine why people would want to censor facts.

Why would they dump it all at once? They will dump the price with it. If they, which is a big if, decide to sell. They will spread it over a longer period of time. We will probably experience a small bleed or sideways action when that happens.

Sounds like what we are going through now? Lol.

Dump and open a short with high leverage if offered. Or dump to trigger stop losses.

Yes, at some point angel investors will get their Walton available, this doesn't instantly mean they're going to dump it on us. No one knows.

1 point · 8 months ago

What was it? pm pls if not here

It's written down there in his post if you scroll through more comments

13 points · 8 months ago

You can see the censored comment here. Apparently this sub is now censoring facts. What the fuck mods?

Great project, huge potential, but this investor thing and the deletion of comments, if we don't get an answer from Walton or the moderators, it's a massive red flag for me

They ban everybody in slack for talking about price or trading wtc...yes, that's right - you CANNOT talk about the price of wtc in a wtc slack.

-10 points · 8 months ago(4 children)

Why, because I called out a comment delete? Because I called out censorship? Because I asked legit questions? gtfo with your sheep mentality

-8 points · 8 months ago(0 children)

You do realise keeping information from the community will create worse FUD don’t you? Are you waiting for someone to write a lovely Medium article about how the Walton Chain sub censors important information and get it posted to the main crypto subs with 140k followers?

Walton chain isnt the only thing with investor thing bro, i agree with u that we should get a answer from waltonchain, lets wait for them to give us a answer.

Compare to neo unlocking 15 mil neo? Srsly, they wont be dumping on us, they r called investor for a reason, long term investment.

I can understand that. But why are they censoring comments?

I think with confido fresh in our minds, any kind of manipulation of views or removal of facts will and should get more attention. Not calling WTC a scam but should be free to present and discuss facts.

-2 points · 8 months ago

Don't ever mention Condifo in this sub. Its offensive and has no place here. I am serious. This is one of the brightest projects in crypto right now, and mentioning that crap ico only brings FUD.

Also, people need patience. Of course its being P/D being on only one exchange, and being on nearly everyone's "To watch for 2018" list. Breath boys...we are in for a good ride.

inb4 we get confido'd

Tbh, this is how fud start, u share info, people get panicky panic, then thr dump is incoming, i dont agree with deleting comment but look at wat that guy trying to do now, spreading more fud and telling people to sell, see wat i mean?

I agree with you, and I'm sorry if this is what this issue has caused. But some of us have huge positions in this, and if they decide to dump, don't we have the right to know exactly when their coins will get unlocked, and make trading decisions with all the information possible ?

I do agree, thats why we should wait for a answer from them. If unlocking 15 mil didnt crash neo, it wont crash wtc, dumping would, not unlocking

1 point · 8 months ago


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5 points · 8 months ago

Or don't be a scrub and get both.

Walton is AMAZING. The manipulation is strong on this one, and there's a reason for it. Things are going to change when we get listed on big exchanges, be patient.

Have they said anything about being listed on any exchanges?

Yeah back in the beginning of october lol. They arent trying to get on amy exchanges.

-7 points · 8 months ago(4 children)

It's pathetic how pessimistic everyone is these days, the whale manipulation is obvious. Nothing has changed about this project, team. Increasing my wtc stack on a daily basis.

Why is whale manipulation obvious? I am very interested to learn.

I think he meant that even on big exchanges, there will still be whales

Same, I just keep buying!

8 points · 8 months ago

Keep the hype alive!

Time to bail if you are in profit. 5 million angel investors WTC will become available to them in coming months after initial lockup period. You can be sure they will take 4X profit. That's what investors do.


This is clearly FUD. Firstly it has been 4.5 months since the ICO so those unlocked at three would have dumped already if they wanted to. Instead over that time frame we reach an all time high followed by BitCoin drama. Some of the largest wallets are still unfazed when browsing WTC wallets.

Secondly there was a refund period in which these investors would have been contact to return their funds. If they wanted to get out, they would have taken their money back when the Chinese gov't asked them to.

There is a way to spin this that isn't FUD. I will not delete your comment, but please consider a better approach in the future.

I will leave the spin to you.

Hah.. is this like 'NEO are releasing 15m tokens and will dump in OCT'... yeah, that didn't happen.

Those that are in profit now will be incredibly stupid to pull out entirely. Once the chain is public and beta testing is complete, we'll see an increase in the awareness of WTC. After all, there are still key bits of information not everyone is privy to.. ;)

14 points · 8 months ago

I removed your post, it was a mistake. There was a new account last month dedicated to spamming this post "dump now because it is 3 months since ICO". I thought you were this account, just saying it for november instead of october. Hadn't read the whole exchange

Thanks for clarification

I highly doubt they will sell 5 million WTC coins on an exchange, because that would completely crash WTC.

When exactly?

Locked for 3-12 months from end of August so in theory next month

or next August?

Somewhere between next month and then so just need to be aware.

Did you delete your comment?

Me? No, it's accurate.


Has it been deleted? Jeez that is scary. Oh well good luck all, DYOR and all that.

Censorship in a subreddit is never good thing. Why did the admins do this?

Why was your comment been deleted ? Can you post it again ?

Thanks! Now, I only wish I knew what the actual trading volume was...

Whoever downvotes this kind of factual information has got serious issues

where is boxming video part 2? Does he forget about it? this is not tv show.

4 points · 8 months ago

There's a lot of Chinese that needs to be translated. Probably out next week

"Part 2 will be much longer due to translation issues "

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