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State Department deletes a statement condemning Russia over MH17 downing right after Trump's Putin summit by singularfate in worldnews

[–]roofied_elephant 8005 points8006 points  (0 children)

The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.

State Department deletes a statement condemning Russia over MH17 downing right after Trump's Putin summit by singularfate in worldnews

[–]GeauxOs 5751 points5752 points x2 (0 children)

I doubt this makes it feel any better but hopefully it does.

Trump is not your ally. The USA is.

This American (me) stands with you and your countrymen.

State Department deletes a statement condemning Russia over MH17 downing right after Trump's Putin summit by singularfate in worldnews

[–]theresaholeinmyshirt 6598 points6599 points  (0 children)

As a Dutch person, this kind of hurts. It was clear really fast that Russia or Russia-backed people did this. Then Russia was denying it really hard. Fine, they lie. Still, we have an investigation to be sure. Surprise, it was Russia.

Now they get support from one of our allies, a country whose revenge fantasies some of our countrymen went to war for. Our ally is pretending Russia is an innocent little flower in one of the biggest tragedies that ever happened here.

They can claim things have always been this way all they want. In a tiny country like this, everyone knows someone that has been affected by this.

Bill Browder says Vladimir Putin would like to “kill me like he killed my lawyer Sergei Magnitsky” by maxwellhill in worldnews

[–]legshampoo 95 points96 points  (0 children)

you should also see his senate testimony hearing from last year. Should be required viewing for anyone trying to understand what in the fuck is going on...

it's long, but important


Browder is an international hero, and needs to be protected from these assholes

Trump says he's 'ready' to put tariffs on all $505 billion of Chinese goods imported to the US by jamescaan1980 in worldnews

[–]DiggSucksNow 367 points368 points  (0 children)

You are less free. Do your companies have the freedom to fire workers without cause? Do you have the freedom to buy a gun and leave it loaded and accessible to children? Do you have the freedom to choose between groceries and medicine? Are your corporations free to donate unlimited funds to support politicians? Are your fossil fuel companies free to pollute ground water?

That's just a small taste of what real freedom feels like, Euro-trash.

/s, even though it should be obvious

Trump says he's 'ready' to put tariffs on all $505 billion of Chinese goods imported to the US by jamescaan1980 in worldnews

[–]Jumpingcords 603 points604 points  (0 children)

Short the stock market, fuck it up unbelievably by messing with international trade. Invest all your new money into the now cheap equity market and step down as President. Watch as a few simple fixes return the markets to normal and laugh your way to the country club.

Trump: "I sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy"


A U.S. federal judge has ruled it unconstitutional to prohibit transgenders in Puerto Rico from modifying their birth certificates according to their gender identities. Puerto Rico now joins the 47 U.S. states which allow transgenders to amend their birth certificates as they see fit. by madazzahatter in worldnews

[–]cop-disliker69 142 points143 points  (0 children)

Birth certificates aren't really medical records. They're for government purposes.

The actual medical record of a newborn, that like lists weight, height, race, health condition, pre-term status, circumcision status, etc. is not included as part of a birth certificate.

A birth certificate is the government's record that a new person exists.

A pro-Kremlin politician said on live TV that Russia "stole" the U.S. presidency by singularfate in worldnews

[–]Spockticus 440 points441 points  (0 children)

It's crazy. I was emphatically not an alarmist immediately after the election. I was not in the camp that was worried about "Trumps finger on the nuclear button", I thought it was all overblown despite being ideologically strongly in favor of liberal American ideals.

I thought that Facism in America was impossible.

But the actual bonefied inspected-and-stamped fucking doublethink that they've been pumping out day after day has me reeling with concern and fear.

It's a strategy intended to absolve the administration of responsibility and convince their followers that regardless of the outcome, any result is to be understood as a win for Trump.

They push the message that Trump is dismantling NATO while simultaneously pushing the narrative that Trump is building up NATO with "tough love". They claim he is friendly with, perhaps even a partner to Putin, and thats good for America- They then claim he's the "toughest on russia ever".

Therefor it's a win if Ukraine is invaded and it's a win if Ukraine fights off the attackers. It's a win if Putin dies and it's a win if Putin kills. Everything is winning, "so much winning you'll get tired of it."

My education in the public school system (in a very conservative state) led me to believe that we had learned our lessons from history.

I thought we all understood our countries mission statement of secular governance, free press, and striving for liberty. I thought that every American had read the dystopian high school canon and had no attraction to authoritarian systems. I thought these books were trite, too heavy handed, unbelievable- moralistic folk tales.

I was utterly wrong.

. Edit before I sleep: Go read Obama's speech from Johannesburg yesterday. Make of it what you will. It helped me feel ok, if only for a hopeful minute.

Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]aYearOfPrompts 22.4k points22.4k points x5 (0 children)

This is an extremely important article.

Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.

The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.

Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced, according to several people who attended the intelligence briefing. But ever since, Mr. Trump has tried to cloud the very clear findings that he received on Jan. 6, 2017, which his own intelligence leaders have unanimously endorsed.

Trump has known since 14 days before his Inauguration that Vladimir Putin personally ordered the attacks on our elections. He has obfuscated and denied and covered for Putin for 558 days.

And Trump still has yet to directly state that Putin ordered the attack. The closest he has come is saying that Putin would be responsible as leader of his country (as covered in the article).

This is watershed. Trump is failing to serve America's best interest, and this behavior alone should rise to being an impeachable defense. No previous President in history would have survived aiding a foreign power in this way.

But this story is no longer about Trump. It's about the treasonous lack of spine by the Republican Party to act in the face of an attack by Russia, and a President who has become a clear and present danger to the United States.

Putin appears to be targeting U.S. officials who worked to sanction Russia by Shogouki in worldnews

[–]imFreshYo 74 points75 points  (0 children)

Gotta be careful here guys the fear mongering is very real and runs very deep on both sides.

You have to stop looking at it like it's Russia vs Usa.

It has to become the Russian and American people vs the corrupt people in power in both governments.

The goal is to dehumanize and fear each other, and they're succeeding. The way many of you seem terrified of Russians is eerily similar the way many Russians are terrified of Americans. The way many of you jump to your "ITS THE RUSSIANS" conclusions reminds me a lot of a young lady I saw in Moscow, who after exiting a building, noticed it had begun raining exclaimed "It's because of the Americans."(serious)

We are pawns in their game, and by feeding into the hysteria you become the propaganda machine.

The people you hate are the same people we hate, and they're in our government and in yours. They're the corrupt soulless bitter greedy bastards in power who shit on their own people with no afterthought.

Russians want the same thing Americans want, just a simple, good life.

It reached 33 Celsius/91 Fahrenheit in Northern Finland yesterday - at 70°N this is well into the Arctic circle, and further north than 90% of Alaska. by Chadwiko in worldnews

[–]PeterJohnKattz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Nope. This is the end of humanity.


Gradual change is not guaranteed, as pointed out by the U.S. National Academy of Sciences in December 2013: “The history of climate on the planet — as read in archives such as tree rings, ocean sediments, and ice cores — is punctuated with large changes that occurred rapidly, over the course of decades to as little as a few years.” The December 2013 report echoes one from Wood Hole Oceanographic Institution more than a decade earlier. Writing for the 3 September 2012 issue of Global Policy, Michael Jennings concludes that “a suite of amplifying feedback mechanisms, such as massive methane leaks from the sub-sea Arctic Ocean, have engaged and are probably unstoppable.” During a follow-up interview with Alex Smith on Radio Ecoshock, Jennings admits that “Earth’s climate is already beyond the worst scenarios.” Truth-out piles on 18 March 2014: “‘climate change'” is not the most critical issue facing society today; abrupt climate change is.” Skeptical Science finally catches up to reality on 2 April 2014 with an essay titled, “Alarming new study makes today’s climate change more comparable to Earth’s worst mass extinction.” The conclusion from this conservative source: “Until recently the scale of the Permian Mass Extinction was seen as just too massive, its duration far too long, and dating too imprecise for a sensible comparison to be made with today’s climate change. No longer. Piling on in January 2015, a paper in press in the journal Progress in Physical Geography concludes the abstract with this line: “All the evidence indicates that most long-term climate change occurs in sudden jumps rather than in incremental changes.” The Brisbane Times catches up with abrupt climate change on 18 August 2014: “Let us be clear: if these methane escapes continue to grow, the risk is they could drive the planet into accelerated or ‘runaway’ global warming. The last time this happened, 50 million years ago, global temperatures rose by an estimated 9 or 10 degrees. In the present context, that would mean the end of the world’s food supply.” Robert Scribbler finally joins the uprising on 29 October 2014: “What is clear is that feedbacks to the human heat forcing are now starting to become plainly visible. That they are providing evidence of a stronger release from some sources on a yearly basis.” The Daily Kos summarizes evidence indicating abrupt climate change on 14 March 2015 with an article headlined, “The Earth is Set for Rapid Warming.” A paper published online in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 12 October 2015 finds “abrupt changes in sea ice, oceanic flows, land ice, and terrestrial ecosystem response …. A particularly large number is projected for warming levels below 2°.” The latter paper was the focus of an an article in the 15 October version of the Washington Post. Also that month, a paper in the 15 October 2015 issue of Paleoceanography furthers the case for abrupt climate change: “This record reveals that the climatic shift during the early deglacial occurred rapidly (explained co-author Kennett, a professor emeritus in University of California Santa Barbara’s Department of Earth Science. “Of the 13 degree Fahrenheit total change, a shift of 7 to 9 degrees occurred almost immediately right at the beginning.”


But hey, weren't those IPhones made by communist slaves so cool and shiny.

The Russians Who Hacked The DNC Have Targeted At Least Three 2018 Campaigns, Microsoft Says by aubonpaine in worldnews

[–]UncleDoofus 241 points242 points  (0 children)

I still think we should just 'unplug' Russia from the internet. They'll still have their own, local intranet. Just without any access to the rest of the world.

One day they get up, and lots of redirections to 'Russia is blocked' pages. Block all traffic. Blacklist them on satellites. VPN won't get past an unplugged cable.

When their spies have to leave Russian soil to carry out their sabotage and espionage, then it will be much easier to arrest them, whatever furniture they crawl out from under.

Russia Brags Of ‘Verbal Agreements’ With Trump, US Unsure What They Were by maxwellhill in worldnews

[–]yohakoha 320 points321 points  (0 children)

Why not accept the Jews into european countries

Bruh, Holocaust survivors went back to their old cities in Poland to find their community completely annihilated and their houses occupied by other people. The "acceptance" that they got was people telling them things like "huh, I figured the Nazis had turned you into soap", not to mention the same pogroms that they had faced before WWII.

At that point the places with significant Jewish populations were the US and Mandatory Palestine, and that's exactly where most Holocaust survivors went.

Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]welcome2urff 3610 points3611 points x3 (0 children)

That's exactly what it will be. But it follows a very common pattern. Any time there's an introduction of a revolutionary technology there are pitfalls. Misinformation is simply the downside of the internet revolution but before we as a society learned to understand and mitigate it.

For example, you couldn't get into a 30mph+ accident before cars came along. Then you could. But even after that, there were decades where cars went well over 30mph and it was just accepted that a cars will have high speed accidents and kill people. It wasn't until the 1950ish that safety features were even thought about. Crumple zones, seat belts, collapsible steering columns. Then it took another 30 years until the 80s for it to be implimented as law into all vehicles.

Misinformation is the car crashes of the internet and we are at a time when we accept that access to information will naturally come with access to misinformation and scams. One day we will mitigate and regulate misinformation. The Trump era will be seen as a catalyst for that and our grandkids will look back and go "I can't believe they just let that happen back then."

Trump derides news media as 'enemy of the people' over Putin summit coverage by TinyCrazy in worldnews

[–]whooo_me 9955 points9956 points  (0 children)

Sometimes I think the guy is just an idiot. Other times I think he's an incredibly dangerous idiot.

When asked about Putin killing dissidents & journalists: “There are a lot of killers. We have a lot of killers,” Trump said. “Well, you think our country is so innocent?”

When talking about the Tiananmen Square protests: "When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it, then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength."

Not exactly the most pro American values, free speech / right to protest kind of guy.

The National Rifle Association Has Deep Ties to Accused Russian Spy Maria Butina - Here is the years’ worth of evidence. by anutensil in worldnews

[–]Wazula42 16.7k points16.7k points  (0 children)

Reminder that inside 48 hours of this being revealed, a new measure was passed making it so the NRA doesn't have to reveal its donor list.

Tell me that isn't the shadiest thing you've ever seen.

The National Rifle Association Has Deep Ties to Accused Russian Spy Maria Butina - Here is the years’ worth of evidence. by anutensil in worldnews

[–]ew73 2400 points2401 points  (0 children)

Primaries are pretty much happening now across the country.

The general election is this November.

This is how you fix these sorts of issues.

Please ensure you are registered to vote and please vote.

https://vote.gov/ is a great starting point.

White House: Trump open to Russia questioning US citizens by ginger_bredman in worldnews

[–]turkeypants 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I think you're underestimating how bad the opposing candidate was.

Nope. This is garbage. A bizarre cartoon person ran for president. The most preposterously inappropriate sort of person possible, except that he's literally the only person in that sort because he's so ridiculous, and 63 million people voted for him anyway because they have departed reason. A pile of sand would have been a better president than this flagrant loon, not to even speak of a highly capable ivy leaguer with serious experience in federal government despite a 25 year rolling partisan assassination. This conversation will go nowhere. I won't seriously entertain it with anyone. A vote for him was an indictment of any given voter. I won't continue this part of the conversation with you or anyone because of how absurd it is. So the last word is yours if you'd care to close us out on that.

As for the rest, 63 million is 27% of the voting-age population of 235 million (whoops, updated 2012 voting age population to 2016, so 25% of 250 million) if we want to look at it that way instead of nearly half the people who bothered to vote. And the people who show up are the people who dictate the fate of the nation - the rest will remain irrelevant and anonymous as long as they stay home and take no part, so they aren't worth talking about.

And enough showed up to give us what we've got now, and to stock Congress with enablers. That's more people on an absolute basis than voted for Bush either time much less the more recent two failed Republican candidates, even if less on a percentage basis, and it will remain a chronic problem. Those people have the reins of the nation and aren't going anywhere. Watch the news, read a paper, or walk outside if you want to see whether or not this is a problem. Walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, for example.

Those people gave us the person who earned us the bewilderment and lost us the respect of the rest of the human race. Those people gave us the person who is alienating our best, oldest, and most important friends and allies while praising the world's worst autocrats and sucking Vladimir Putin's cock between incoherent lie reversals fit for a glue-huffing teen. It's so bad that nobody even talks anymore about his record of multiple recorded lies per day, every day of his term, or of his shady business dealings, or of his conflicts of interest, or of his outright nepotism. Each new offense is so much more alarming and absurd that his long list of other offenses, which would have sunk anyone else, look small and insignificant by comparison. And that's before you even get to the way this trashbag has soiled the institution of the presidency and the fabric of the nation with his utter lack of dignity, maturity, sobriety, honor, and basically every other redeemable quality one expects out of an adult in the White House.

You can try to write those voters off as a mathematical and unrepresentative minority but they and their elected president and members of Congress and state legislative majorities are significant enough to literally be writing this chapter of our history. That is most definitely national cultural rot and it is just beyond belief. Something this asinine, this straight up crazy, should never even come remotely close to happening, but it's happening anyway. That is a direction. That is growth of crazy finally to fully effective levels.

The silent get no say. We don't know what they think and the loud speak for them regardless. And the sane weren't enough. This is fucking nuts and we are unraveling because of the people at the wheel. This didn't start overnight. You can trace its pedigree back many decades, with key spikes of crazy, whether it was Reagan's wedge drivers or Newt Gingrich's revolution or George W. Bush's Orwellian jingoism and messianic mania, all of which has warped reality, warped the national dialogue and context, warped who and what we are as a culture. The pendulum swings, but each time it swings right, it moves farther into madness. That's the disease. The world looks at us now like you'd look at a rabid dog (except Russia, who see us as their poodle). We aren't Americans anymore because that word no longer delivers the meaning it once did. We need a new word for this sick thing we've become.

The National Rifle Association Has Deep Ties to Accused Russian Spy Maria Butina - Here is the years’ worth of evidence. by anutensil in worldnews

[–]Dahhhkness 2010 points2011 points  (0 children)

And this from a man who promised in his inaugural address (the BIGGEST ever!) to up-end the power of lobbyists in DC.

Instead, he laid out a "Free beer!" sign for them and gave them cabinet positions.