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A0bt24 commented on a post in r/bjj
dobermannbjj84 2 points

Never been injured in competition, look at it as a very intense sparring session. Your much more likely to get injured in training. As long as you tap in time you should be fine

A0bt24 2 points

I’m not sure about this advice. A guy broke his femur in competition at my gym and another dislocated their elbow and had to nurse an elbow for months.

Now I’ve also seen students get their shoulder dislocated in training and one broken arm.

Full disclosure: I’m a white belt with about 12 months in.

I think there are definite merits to competition; I’ve shot IDPA/2-gun matches, played football, and taken professional certifications. Pressure were all part of those and it’s much different. I do think there is value in adding pressure.

That being said; I’m 30 and I’ve lost 45 lbs doing Jiu Jitsu. I want to stay being able to do this three times a week and in rolling I’ve had back strain issues and other minor injuries. I want to do this long term, and I’m not willing to right now to go throw it out all on the line for Jiu Jitsu.

Would it make me better and expose limitations? Absolutely. How much better? Eh, debatable.

I quit shooting competitively because I got tired of driving an hour to an hour and a half shooting for 60-90 seconds total match time, and spending about 6-8 hours standing around or pasting targets.

It seems Jiu Jitsu comps from what I’ve heard are similar experiences. All day, a few matches (maybe one if it’s an elimination) and a couple hours drive.

Right now, the 2 hours open mat time with a purple belt or brown belt with a critical eye on a Saturday would probably serve me better.

Your mileage may vary.

dobermannbjj84 1 point

Hey no one says you have to compete... I think you may be over thinking this. It’s a bjj match not an MMA fight. I’ve competed dozens of times and have only ever been injured during training most likely from me being to relaxed and not reacting to danger as I would in a competitive mode. I’ve also see more injuries in training. As long as your not trying to be a hero and gut out a submission the risk is probably the same as sparring or open mat. For reference I’ve competed dozens of times and have been training almost 10 years. But if it’s not for you it’s all good, no one says you have to do it. I just don’t think worrying about getting injured is valid, not when you’re literally doing the same thing multiple times a week.

A0bt24 1 point

Fair enough. I’m just leery for the reasons above.

witchladysnakewoman 3 points

How long did you study for?

A0bt24 3 points

To answer your question. I kind of tried to take it easy after graduating with my Bachelor's in August; my wife wanted me to take a break from being a student. But, I also really wanted the CCNA. I read the Odom's book between Early October and November. Bought a house in Mid-December which torpedo'd progress for about 2 months. I watched Keith's video series from about Late February to March, read Lammle's ICND1 book. Listened to Andrew Crouthammel's youtube videos while driving to work every morning. Then spent the last several weeks practicing testing and doing quizlet flashcards (it's a free app) for various show commands, IPv6 addressing (Unicast, Site-Local, etc.), IPv4 addressing, subnet ranges, ports and applications associated, etc.

If I had a recommendation it would be this. Structure your studying together. Starting and stopping over the course of months trying to balance personal life (enjoy graduated life, moving, and trying to have a good marriage) and the drive to get to this was tough. I think that led to me buying redundant materials (work bought the INE materials, Boson, and lab materials).

Select a primary source such as Odom or Lammle's book. Set a goal every week and go for it; have a targeted date in mind and use something like Bryant's videos (I honestly, really liked these), labs, and practice tests.

Odom's book is about 900-ish pages of material/testing/quizzing for the ICND1; if you tackled say 100-150 pages a week; you'd finish it about a month and a half.

I picked up a book called the 5 AM Miracle (which I'd highly recommend to help implement structure in your life and also do things early in the morning versus being unavailable to your spouse in the evenings); I'd recommend that highly as well.

It's a process and the way to success is not stopping; you have to work and re-work plans many times. I never thought I'd get IPv6 addressing until I started doing quizlet.

I would ideally read the book, listen to a good audio series while exercising or driving (Bryant's udemy or Crouthammel's CCNA videos), lab that same material, and then I'd get quizlets of that material (if appropriate). I think if you got after it 5 days a week (every week day morning and weekends if you can I didn't study most weekends) for about 2-3 hours for two or three months.

Then buy a practice test and if you're scoring in the 900 range on Boson; I think you're ready.

I finally signed up for it Monday morning last week for Friday because I needed to know. I felt pretty prepared but I always had a lingering doubt; I just scheduled it because I had to do it. I put in for PTO and thank god I passed.

Sorry for this tangent, but basically to give you a straight answer 3-ish months all of it banded together.

EDIT: If I had two pieces of advice it would be A.) Form a structure of your study (make a plan) and B.) Find a way to create the time to reach the goal. What worked well for me was getting up before my spouse so we could be free in the evenings. I would not recommend after work (although I've done it at different points) because it takes time away from your family, your evenings are going to be more unpredictable, and you never know what's going to be left in the tank (mentally and physically) after an 8-10 hour work day. I would also recommend finding a good support group like this one for inspiration for this goal or on the Cisco Learning Network.

witchladysnakewoman 2 points

Passed ccent. Thanks for your insight

A0bt24 1 point

You're welcome and I'm thrilled to hear it!

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A0bt24 commented on a post in r/ccna
A0bt24 3 points

I would recommend Odom's book and he has labs that correspond on his blog site. You could do those with Packet Tracer (free from Cisco).

I think Odom's material is probably the best for reference and depth. I'm going through the 200-105 book now and his explanations can be in-depth. But, I'd rather have a strong knowledge base. I'd recommend Chris Bryant's Udemy class ($10) to listen/observe.

Wish you the best!

A0bt24 commented on a post in r/ccna
WhiteZero 2 points

Good to see someone pass without throwing the kitchen sink at it (e.g. 3 books, 2 video series, 2 million practice tests, etc)

A0bt24 2 points

I resemble this comment. Candidly, looking at the ICND2; I'm thinking I'm only reading the Odom book, watching Chris Bryant's videos, referencing Lammle's book only if I don't get something from Odom, and using the testing software I already have. I definitely had built the ICND1 into a huge monster and while not easy by any means. I found I restarted the training curriculum essentially 3 times by reading or watching different versions of the same material.

I think Odom, Boson, packet tracer, and a video course would get you through.

A0bt24 commented on a post in r/ccna
A0bt24 1 point

I would highly recommend Chris Bryant's Udemy Class (very inexpensive and very effective). I would also recommend taking advantage of Cisco's Packet Tracer (you can now get that for free through the Cisco Net Acad) for labbing. Andrew Crouthammel put out a free video course for the old CCNA format that has a lot of very relevant information if you're wanting just to find out if networking is for you (

Now, as far as 4 hours a day... Painful question. If you're unemployed, why not spend 6 or more?

I know a guy years ago that got the composite CCNA in a month (now he had gone through the Cisco Networking Academy as part of our Associates' Degree); that was a much easier version circa 2009-2010-ish.

I would say ideally first get a job by getting in touch with a recruiter; I'd build relationships with several recruiters (I'm not sure of your back ground and how desperate you are to get back to work; most of us would be extremely focused on that but to each his own) and spend multiple hours a day getting your resume in order and job searching.

Recruiters will help your resume get into places that may otherwise not give it a look.

I'd also focus on tailoring your resume to the certification you currently have. I'd say first shoot for a helpdesk job with your A+, get some experience (they'd want that at a NOC, Admin job, or whatever other role), and hammer out your CCNA while there and in a year you could be ready to move on.

You may be able to transfer or look for a network job with a job from within new company.

Communicate your long term interests to a recruiter; that may help with placing you at a company.

That's my advice.

God Bless and wish you the best in your search.

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