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You are absolutely correct.

"I am vegan except when i choose to eat animal products"... makes sense /s

What is infuriating is when bloodmouths point to fake vegans and say "Oh you are one of the cool, sane ones" Na, fake vegans are onmi scum like the rest of them.

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Also I'm sure calling people "bloodmouths" is a super good way to get people to start to want to change their diet /s

Original Poster1 point · 7 hours ago

I’m not really sure where the spider thing is coming from?

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I'm just saying people wanna call people fake vegans over non diet things. Some people say they are eating a vegan diet others living a vegan lifestyle and the lifestyle people are the ones that are making people start to dislike the word.

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I would start to watch some vegan people on YouTube and look for recipes that you might be interested in. There's plenty that have meat substitutes that are good for transitioning. Check out avant garde vegan on YouTube he even has recipes for vegan ribs and stuff. The stuff he makes is kind of fancy sometimes but it's just more about seeing what vegan food can be and getting excited about it. And of course you could do a thing like meatless Monday and just say one day a week your going to eat vegan so you are able to explore breakfast, lunch, and dinner options. Then you'll find maybe you want to try two days or if your starting to feel strongly challenge yourself to a week. Don't worry about going full vegan right away. At first you could still just eat eggs if it helps. I really recommend cutting out dairy though. I know that's hard for some people though. It's all in the way you think about it and if you go in with an open mind and are truly curious you'll find your way. Also if you do end up trying a week or something but one day just kind of fail and end up eating whatever. Don't worry and don't throw your hands up and be like I can't do this I guess. It happens at the beginning and it's just part of the journey. And lastly don't worry about the haters whether it's from meat eaters or vegans who wanna say you aren't a real vegan or something dumb. You just do you.

Original Poster30 points · 5 days ago

The crossed out one is a soy burger that ended up being not vegan (ugh) but we’re returning it tomorrow.

We haven’t had vegan items in our aldi since January and suddenly all these popped up!

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Yeah be careful with the earth grown brand the way they word it on the back they cover themselves but it's a pretty dusty marketing move. If it says vegan on the box it will be but some of the cases come with one vegan thing and the other is just vegatarian. Is the one you crossed out that soy protein one where like the third ingredient was cheese? Another one to watch out for is the case that you can choose vegan hot dogs or the veggie "italian sausage" if you check the back on that one egg whites are like the third listed ingredient.

Original Poster1 point · 2 days ago

Yup it was the soy burger with cheese. My bf kinda grabbed it on accident without looking over it. We did the same thing with the sausages but noticed thankfully!

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2 points · 2 days ago

For sure! I just wanted to bring attention to it so no one gets tricked like you and I did. I really wish that their earth grown brand was just 100% vegan. But it is really good progress for us so I don't want to complain too much. Those BBQ meatless chicken pattys are so good!

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6 points · 4 days ago

Ramen noodles but don't use the dust and put peanut butter and siracha and soy sauce.

2 points · 4 days ago

In the produce section get something that you haven't had or seen before. Don't worry about if you'll like it or know how to prepare it. YouTube does. I thinking trying new veggies and fruits is a great way to keep things fun and interesting.

5 points · 4 days ago

They just might not be the weapon for you. You just have to pick one that feels right for you. I thought I was gonna love dual blades by what I saw and heard but in practice I wasn't a fan. I ended up liking insect glaive and great sword the best. I suggest taking some time in the training room and just messing with the starter weapons to get a feel without worrying to much about combos or anything. Then after you think you have one your into take it for a whirl on the jagras and then after that if your like yeah! Then watch a weapon tutorial on YouTube to get a real grasp of your weapon then proceed to monster hunt.

4 points · 5 days ago

Don't worry about em. Haters are just unrealized potential.

7 points · 5 days ago

I completely agree. Making it a super elite club just makes those in it seem like assholes. It doesn't help the cause to be so exclusive. I think everyone who calls themselves vegan is doing what they can do be fully vegan but we should definitely accept that sometimes it just isn't possible in a certain moment. And I think that's okay. It's REDUCE is what we should be going for. If people disagree just make another word then for people who are not 100% vegan. It's really stupid but infighting is anti helpful to what we believe in. And honestly I could give two shits what anyone calls me if they don't think I'm vegan 100% I know where I am in my path and if being anal about the word someone uses to describe themselves is part of being vegan then count me out. I'll just be a plant based eater who had Doritos a week ago. Who cares? One bag of chips or something isn't that big of deal in my opinion.

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4 points · 5 days ago

I have just joined this sub probably a week ago and I'm just about a two months into a plant based diet. I'm was very surprised to see how many trolls there were. Posting meat pics or on posts asking for advice you have kids being like eaT MeAT LuLz. I've also notice very few people even engage with them they are mostly just ignored. My question to you meat lurkers is why? You aren't gonna change any of our minds, you make your own "meat eater group" look like a bunch of uneducated children with no self control or the ability to hold a proper conversation about the subject matter. It's just a waste of time? I guess I've never understood trolls. But to everyone out there if you literally don't engage with them that's the best thing. Don't even down vote. Because they probably just get their jollys off seeing an internet number grow negative. It's just dumb but it is the reality. No interaction. No problem.

To heal the gut? I have been placed on a diet to fix my gut and potato is one of the things I need to avoid. Is it supposed to be beneficial in some way?

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2 points · 5 days ago

What did the doctor/ nutritionist say you should eat?

2 points · 5 days ago

Throughout history farmers had like 10 animals at a time cared for them all individually and ate them on occasion yes. Now we have thousands and thousands reduced from animals to just things we shove in a barn. Also you probably have 10 different chickens in each nugget. It's mass production and factory farming that is the biggest issue.

I would just go on YouTube and watch a weapon tutorial. Arekkz does good ones for each weapon. Spawns change. You have to track the footprints. Follow your scoutflies.

Saints row 3 is a great sandbox to chill in.

IDK about your experts with the 2021 deadline but as far as I know right now "lab grown meat" is science fiction. At least in the way we think of it being firm and chewy. I'm pretty sure I last saw the meat they've made in labs is like oatmeal consistency. And we know no one is going to eat that.

Original Poster2 points · 6 days ago

I’ll give you a example of my diet. Plain potatoes boiled. No salt Boiled potatoes with corn and peas. Sometimes salt. Oatmeal with almond milk cold pressed. Maple syrup sometimes. No processed sugar. Oatmeal with cacao powder, flax seeds chia seeds coconut palm syrup. Plain oatmeal. Bananas. Black rice, plain. Sometimes salt.

I bought fruit and veggies and tried them. Kale. Mixed greens Frozen berries

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5 points · 6 days ago

Yeah eating everything plain sucks. Spices are your friends. So is veggie variety. Tiny flavorless seeds are not satisfying in any way.

1 point · 6 days ago · edited 6 days ago

What you ate doesn't sound like a meal... More vegetables with variety is a better option. An example would be fry up some potatoes, brussel sprouts, mushrooms. Maybe throw in some garbanzo beans or carrots. Then in addition have like hummus and crackers

I'm not sure how it's supposed to work but on PS4 I never ever use it because yeah it just messes everything up

-3 points · 6 days ago

Zinc and vitamin c

Honestly I didn't even know that game had single player so I'm thinking not

Original Poster1 point · 6 days ago

Wow, now I’m not sure either. I was just assuming it did.

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2 points · 6 days ago

I could be wrong I've never played it but I keep up on games pretty well. I thought it was just a multiplayer fighting game. If it is single player I guess it's be the same against bots. Just playing matches of however the game is. I don't know about there being a campaign. And I'm quite sure there is no story.

2 points · 7 days ago

I think wait for Spiderman

7 points · 7 days ago

A 1/3-pound burger requires 660 gallons of water (which is about 2500 litres)

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So one pound would be 7500 litres

Spot on (thereabouts). It's from all the water the livestock require to grow etc

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1 point · 7 days ago · edited 7 days ago

That crazy how much it is. I read somewhere once that each egg is 55 gallons (idk what that is in litres) which puts one dozen eggs to 660 gallons. So basically the same as a burger. So the argument chickens are better is kind of bunk. The difference is one is one meal vs a few but that's super interesting to me and a fact I'll keep in mind. 1/3 lb burger and a dozen eggs use roughly the same amount of water

5 points · 7 days ago

Partly it's because our exploitation is getting out of control. More and more people a born everyday and that is going to cause an increase in the food we need. If you do some research conditions in factory farms are not good. Too many animals are packed too tight and the antibiotics they use are slowly building super disease. They leave dead animals in with the living because there are simply too many. And in the slaughterhouses they are increasing their line speeds to much and people aren't trained very well which makes the entire environment getting dirtier and dirtier. Meanwhile company's are making rules about things like how much pus is allowed in be milk or on meat. It's a small amount now. But that will be pushed further and further to the limit like humans do and it's already not healthy. We aren't getting our meat like "in the good ol day" hunting or from a local farmer. The ball game has changed due to mass production.

Original Poster-2 points · 8 days ago

So then why is it wrong to eat animals? Animal killing is happening all over the ecosystem. Why should we stop? We should not want to eat meat because we have pity on animals?

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2 points · 8 days ago

We should stop/ at least reduce the amount we consume because we are building towards a massive collapse. We pump our livestock full of antibiotics and all it takes is one mutation of super resilient disease to rip through the animals and cause a massive shortage food. Worse off if that were to pass to humans since we have been eating the meat the antibiotics are also going into your body meaning that you won't be able to get relief from said disease either. Also we are consuming at an unsustainable rate and more and more people come into the world everyday. It's better to get energy directly from the sun. Eating animals, everything that said animal eats in it's lifetime before slaughter ends basically up as wasted energy because the amount you end up getting from eating the flesh does not compare. Food shortage is going to be a real problem in the future so we doing what we can to make that less bad.

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