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I'm done arguing with you because you're an idiot. Nonetheless, from YOUR OWN SOURCE: "On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police."

Because you do seem to need some education on this matter, here are the sources you are begging for:

Across the thin blue line: Police officers and racial bias in the decision to shoot.

A Multi-Level Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings at the County-Level in the United States, 2011–2014

DRIVING WHILE BLACK: BIAS PROCESSES AND RACIAL DISPARITY IN POLICE STOPS

The Consequences of Race for Police Officers' Responses to Criminal Suspects

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You two took a long time to figure out how to define the terms of the debate and get past most of the assumptions you had about each others' positions. You're close, but still arguing slightly different things. /u/distractedtears is working with the assumption that brutality means getting shot, and they provided a source that supports this claim:

On the most extreme use of force – officerinvolved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account.

You on the other hand are arguing about any use of force, including when people get roughed up a bit, and that it's racially disproportionate. You're both right, as supported by that source and others, but you two seem to the think the other is arguing against their specific variation of the claim.

Interestingly, people on distractedtear's side of the argument typically bring up statistics related to the number of encounters with police so you don't get what they see as misleading numbers that don't factor in a greater number of encounters for some demographics, and then I noticed that the first source you provided mentioned this:

It is important to reiterate that these risk ratios come only from the sample of individuals who were shot by police and census data on race/ethnicity-specific population information. The USPSD does not have information on encounter rates between police and subjects according to ethnicity. As such, the data cannot speak to the relative risk of being shot by a police officer conditional on being encountered by police, and do not give us a direct window into the psychology of the officers who are pulling the triggers.

That just seems like another example of the different sides arguing different things and not framing the context in terms that the other side understands or agrees upon.

True--it is all about framing the debate. I believe Voltaire said, "I refuse to argue with you, sir, unless we first define our terms." So true.

My frustration with /u/distractedtears stems from the fact he seems to think that the NFL protests are completely without basis in fact, and they are protesting against nothing. That's just willful blindness or deep-seated racism.

You correctly point out that there are a variety of issues involved here: police brutality, police shootings, disparate treatment and illegal profiling, disproportionate treatment and incarceration, etc. All of it is tinged with racial bias, despite the fact that studies can be manipulated to show whatever premise they want. And that is because of a complete lack of reliable data (and that failure is again tainted by racial bias, both willful and unintentional).

We can all argue back and forth, but ultimately I think anyone whose position is "the NFL protests are without substance or merit" is either ignorant or racist, but probably both.

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That's just willful blindness or deep-seated racism.

Or they see and understand things radically different from the way you do. You make a lot of assumptions. They could be completely wrong or exactly right, or purely altruistic or entirely malicious, but you make that judgment by projecting intent and values onto them.

We can all argue back and forth, but ultimately no one will get anywhere if they don't seek to truly and honestly understand the thought processes of people on the other side.

No one said that? I said nazis deserve punishment for being a nazi. You know, the pretty much universally agreed upon villain of ww2? The people responsible for the subjugation and murder of millions of people. If you sympathize with Nazis, if you identify with that group of people, you’re wrong. Period.

If there were a whole group of people that believed in the same things as Stalin or Pol Pot, I would say they deserve punishment too. The moral here is DON’T BE A BAD PERSON.

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I think that almost everyone thinks the same as you, barring a tiny handful on the fringe edge of the fringe. The problem that the person you're talking to is trying to address is that the vast majority of the people who have faced that accusation also think exactly the same as you.

Amusingly, the ones who do sympathize with and apologize for actual Nazis generally don't condone the subjugation and murder of people en masse - they don't think the Nazis did that at all. They did, and those sympathizers are wrong like you say, but the sympathizers probably don't have quite that level of evil mentality. Again, barring a few on the fringe of the fringe, and those people are bad. But that fringe might not be the ones getting the majority of these accusations.

Hey everyone: this isn't racist. It's just a humorous observation about white people. Pretty common in the comedy world.

Racism requires some sort of oppression, which this does not. Prejudice requires some sort of negative emotional reaction. I.e., this title would read, "White people office smile... and that's why they're scumbags." At worst, this is a stereotype, an idea about a specific group of people that is perceived as specific to said group. This stereotype, about a smile the author perceives white people to have at the office, is very nearly, if not totally, harmless. Some are overreacting.

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Racism requires some sort of oppression

The word denotes an idea, not an action, in two of the ways it's defined:

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2 a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
b : a political or social system founded on racism

3 : racial prejudice or discrimination

Whereas oppression denotes an action of some form that causes harm.

Prejudice requires some sort of negative emotional reaction.

See definition 2.

At worst, this is a stereotype, an idea about a specific group of people that is perceived as specific to said group.

So this is a preconceived opinion or feeling about a racial group, that is, racial prejudice; that is, racism. It's still basically harmless like any other benign or positive stereotype, but your definitions aren't quite right. Sorry for the pedantry.

And Thanos' heart grows three times in size by the end of the movie and finally understands the meaning of christmas.

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God damn it, now the whole movie is ruined for me.

hating trump does not make one a fan of clinton. the world is not black and white. we are not forced to take sides in this polarization. that is what the master of puppets wants us to do. divide and conquer.

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So you're saying the global elites are actually Metallica. Got it.

And....? Why is that relevant? Who gives a shit about "states", if 50% of the population votes, then that's the majority, it doesn't matter where they live, this isn't the 18th century

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It's relevant because of how the electoral college works, currently, in the 21st century. Like it or not, people vote for who their state votes for, and only state's votes count.

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1 point · 2 months ago · edited 2 months ago

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It was removed because we don't allow links to content (including subreddits) that breaks rule 7.

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1 point · 2 months ago

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No one will see a spammy comment in a 3-month-old post buried among 2500 other comments. Try this instead: https://ads.reddit.com/

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4 points · 3 months ago

Which word should I be emphasizing for enjoyment of your response? I'm thrown by the lack of commas, that do so ever seem to be needed, yet I'm appalled by my inability to make a funny from your response without further input, like italics, or or, or those things that show a syllable should be emphasized.

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1: I don't like, this, comment.

Lol.

Ehhh i like my phone and consumerism to ever go full marx, is there a nice middle ground we can agree upon?

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intended to quickly garner a lot of karma

Except 70% had zero karma....

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A lot of them are really bad at it.

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No. It is a crime to have an object in your hand in your own backyard while being black.

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Is it a crime to copy comments from the article in an effort to farm reddit accounts and auction them off to the highest bidder?

I am putting all my faith in Mueller's investigation because our Democracy may very well depend on it. Trump is a proven, habitual liar who surrounds himself with equally repulsive and immoral people. Their desperation to demean Mueller at every turn indicates either extreme hubris, guilt, or both. Most Republicans are decent, patriotic people who do not recognize their party anymore and are ashamed of what it has become at the hands of Trump and his enablers. I anticipate that there are many who, given a choice between Trump or a Democrat, will choose a Democrat. Regardless of party, anyone with a brain can clearly see the damage Trump has done to our country, both at home and abroad, and regardless of party, his actions are embarrassing and humiliating to us at a level we have never encountered before.

Mueller, on the other hand, has served his country all his adult life in one way or another. He is well-known as a truthful, ethical, and professional man in both his personal life and his public life. Of course most of the country has faith in him......and our entire hope for an end to this nightmare.

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That bunny needs a good whipping. Bunnies are relatively stupid creatures and the only thing that teaches them is when they are in pain.

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SPAM LINK, DON'T CLICK.

Image and comments have been stolen from this old thread.

/u/Ortbultenyy is a spam account, which has stolen content and comments from the linked post.

The spam link above takes you to a fake image hosting site, showing the stolen image along with three ads.

It is only relevant to this post in that the image in the link matches a key word with other comments here.

Its only purpose is to make money from the ads.

Other accounts that reply to this comment could also be spam accounts, with the comments copied from the old post to make the conversation look natural. The other spam accounts will have a similar name structure and similar comment history as the account that posted the spam link.

Please downvote and report the account.

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postpusll, Choyyj, and a1naifn are spam bots. Looks like the others are ok.

Thank you for reporting this.

6 points · 4 months ago · edited 4 months ago

Dude just look at the many, many videos you'll see by googling his name. Like I linked you. He has been in news segments, Beer Pong World Cup or whatever it's called, and a bunch of other crap. He's got 300+ Instagram videos of trick shots, you reckon he CGIs them all?

And here is the same video on Instagram. It's just shitty compression in the gif. (At least to anyone familiar with shitty compression).

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The video got reduced to 12 FPS when it was uploaded to imgur. Hurts the clarity quite a bit.

We keep an Eagle in the Oval Office, which is the official office of the President in the White House. The Eagle is the one who actually makes all the decisions. The person elected is just there to interpret it’s shrieks into law. Kind of like how the Pope is there to interpret God’s will for the Catholics.

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Sounds like an extremely elaborate but thinly disguised attempt to denigrate Veteran's Day.

Original Poster16 points · 4 months ago

It was designed by my good friend [Orbit Brown](instagram.com/theorbitdeck) - thin stock and awesome finish.

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FYI, you need to include the full URL to make it link properly. Like this: [Orbit Brown](https://www.instagram.com/theorbitdeck/). Gives you this: Orbit Brown

I can't believe this post isn't locked for racism.

Is Reddit growing up?

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Comment two down from yours that got auto-filtered:

Did she lynch them right after?

So to answer your question, no. No it isn't.

I wonder how long until this thread gets locked...

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No need to lock it, people have been exceptionally decent here. But we ended up removing it because OP is a karma farming bot that copies posts/comments. We would have also removed it earlier if it were brought to our attention that it's effectively a recent popular cross-post of an /r/videos post from the other day, and thus breaks rule 1.

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