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Original Poster1 point · 22 days ago

I appreciate the reply! I thought CUCM was the box and software together so if CUCM is something I can run on a VM then I'm totally gonna do that.

I start in about 10 days and while I'd like to get up to speed early, I'm gonna hold on lab purchases until I can see exactly what their environment looks like - phone models, infrastructure design, etc. Thanks again though, glad to know I can download CUCM.

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2 points · 22 days ago

You can buy a package where you get a Cisco C-Series server hardware bundled with CUCM, but you don't have to. This is the link to the BE7K package:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/business-edition-7000/data-sheet-c78-730649.html

For learning purposes, you can spin up the VMs on spare hardware. You can also use Cisco DevNet Sandboxes, which a pre-installed instances of CUCM you can play with.

https://developer.cisco.com/docs/sandbox/#collaboration

For documentation, you can find lots of Youtube videos and websites on quick tasks. However, the ultimate reference on CUCM is the Cisco Solutions Reference Network Design (SRND):

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/collab12/collab12.html

This covers everything Cisco thinks you'd ever need to know about preparing your network and setting up CUCM. Probably overkill to read through end-to-end, but you can refer to the sections you think you need.

Original Poster1 point · 22 days ago

Wow... thank you so much for this! I will start digging through this material after work tonight. I've got a VMware vCenter environment at home with lots of spare resources so I'm definitely gonna spin up a CUCM VM.

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1 point · 21 days ago

np...and don't forget to add /r/VOIP to your reading list. The usual video training providers (CBT Nuggets, et al) have video training as well. Much of your initial support should come from Cisco or your VAR. Your VAR should be able to get you some face time with an expert.

252 points · 1 month ago

Exception: Greek places

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6 points · 1 month ago

In Michigan we call them Coney Islands.

Personally, the less running on my switches the better. Snort is better run at the network edge. AFAIK nobody is doing app hosting on 9Ks (though I could be wrong).

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3 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

Agreed. If you're buying the hardware for this purpose, make Cisco give you demo gear for a long pilot first. Also, be realistic about new feature-sets actually working out of the box. If you're doing something that nobody's ever done before, don't expect the vendor to be ready to support it. If it doesn't work don't be surprised to hear "not a supported use case" or "maybe next year."

I don't know your use case in detail, if your Cisco rep or VAR balks at it, I wouldn't put it into production without a LOT of testing. Don't buy until you see that it works.

Also, if others (like /u/packet_whisperer) are saying a best practice already exists for what you're trying to do -- consider going down the established path if you value your time.

Original Poster1 point · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

I am not buying this gear for this purpose, but in future it can help justify the price.

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1 point · 1 month ago

If you're going to have the gear anyway, it might be fun to try!

The 10 years leading up to an accomplished goal comprise a much much greater portion of your lifespan than the few hours or days surrounding the moment in time that you happen to, say, pass 1m net worth.

I can confirm this. I passed 1M net worth a few years ago. It was anticlimatic. I only even remember what day it was because I took a screenshot of my NW in Mint and can see when the file was created.

I have more positive memories of hikes, good meals, time spent with friends, etc. "Making a milestone day", meh.

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7 points · 1 month ago

Here is a good article from WSJ about "The Happiness Curve." It talks about how people often find mid-life depressing because they've achieved some of their major life goals and still aren't feeling fulfilled. Good read.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-happiness-curve-review-midlife-slump-and-late-life-upswing-1527809014

4 points · 1 month ago

Had to enable audio to find out whether this was Russia or Canada. Spoiler: Russia

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I was considering printing the Collab SRND to use for studying/note taking. Am I nuts? Has anybody else done this, and was it worth it? The cost would be around $65 and it could be one doc or broken up into 3-4 sections.

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I did this when I was studying for written. Breaking it down into 4 sections is what I did, make sure you get a vinyl front/back and use the spiral binding if you're doing it at like kinkos.

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Original Poster1 point · 1 month ago

Thanks!

I thought about that when I was studying but was too much information. I printed out the CCIE Collaboration quick reference book though. I split it up by chapters and just attacked each chapter weekly. Considering you say CCIE collaboration you probably don't have much time since it's changing. So read all you can. My only recommendation is the quick reference guide.

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Original Poster1 point · 3 months ago

I think I found an alternative. There's some dude calling himself 'Cisco Voice Guy' on YouTube actually reading the SRND. I spend a few hours a day in the car, so I'm going to give that a try and skim through the PDF as I go.

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36 points · 1 month ago

Have a look at the origin story for the "oggy oggy ... oi" chant. Love those Cornish pasties, and I'm a Yank. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oggy_Oggy_Oggy

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23 points · 1 month ago

Pasties are the un-official favorite food of Michiganders due to all of the Cornish miners who immigrated to work in the copper mines of Michigan's Upper Peninsula.

I know pasties are a particular type of pastry, but to me it's nipple jewelry.

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3 points · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

"Pasty" (the food) is a meat-pie -- usually chopped beef, carrot, onion, and rutabaga in a pie-crust like shell. Often served with gravy. It made a hearty, hand-held lunch that might even still be warm by lunch time at the mines.

Many people say that only this exact meat/veg configuration is a "true" pasty, but I read that Cornish women would put almost anything in one, leading to a local saying that the Devil was afraid to go go Cornwall because he might end up baked into a meat pie.

You could tape some to your chest, but you'd have a bunch of hungry Michiganders chasing you around.

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Are you joking?

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1 point · 1 month ago

Nope. Although I haven't used them in a number of years -- have they gone downhill? I deployed a few dozen about 5 years ago and found them to be a cheap, effective system that a small business can maintain themselves. That was before Paetec/Windstream bought them, so maybe I'm out of the loop.

Bear in mind that your version of cheap and mine might be different, and OP didn't really give any specifics to go off of in terms of size or application.

Allworx has basically useless now. Everyone I know that’s used to use one has sold them and moved on because of the bad practices and the pita of getting other phones to work on the system.

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1 point · 1 month ago

Wow, that's sad! It used to be a great little system. The only thing I didn't like about it was that the handsets still had paper labels. Paetec ruins everything.

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1 point · 1 month ago

The pilot number is the extension or telephone number that you dial to reach the members of the hunt group.

6 points · 1 month ago

My understanding is that DNA Center is the new Prime. Including both probably makes planning for migration easier.

1 point · 2 months ago

And when does it become apparent? After the delivery!

2 points · 2 months ago

This is very cool! Thanks for doing it.

1 point · 2 months ago

That's funny -- I always think about how the series might translate into a sci-fi drama. ...and that always makes me think of the Star Trek: Generations scene starring the Lady Washington as HMS Enterprise:

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Lady_Washington

http://www.historicalseaport.org/ships/lady-washington/

2.3k points · 2 months ago

I don't understand the question. Is larger quantities of booze a possible answer?

On a serious note; take an interest in his 'selfish' hobbies -- the ones he does outside of the relationship -- to show that the gift is just for him. Every year I say I'm going to take golf lessons, then I don't. My wife gave me $100 for golf lessons and encouraged me to make the time for them.

If you watch Parks & Rec, I call this the "treat yo' self!" gift.

Booze is great if it's something you weren't going to buy yourself. A bottle of Smirnoff? Not really thoughtful. A bottle of whiskey that has a similar flavor profile to something he likes? Hell yeah.

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1 point · 2 months ago

True -- A new discovery is always welcome. Protip: Go to an upscale party store and ask the workers if they've ever tried his favorite brand. Ask for something similar that he might like. My wife did this when I got a promotion, and I was very touched. I think she got me a Johnny Walker Explorer's Edition.

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Those of you who have taken the CCNP Collab recently: Did you find the test content relevant and cohesive?

When I did the NP Voice, I was disappointed. The questions were not very relevant, were poorly worded, and the test had grammer issues that made the questions difficult to interpret. (Not talking in like a "they worded it tricky on purpose" way...more like an "english isn't their first language" way)

I have to take CIPTV2 to convert to Collab (the CCIE Collab written can't renew your CCNP Voice since they terminated the Voice track). I'm wondering if I should expect more of the same.

I'd ask the same questions about the CCIE Collab, which I'd also like to go after.

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Got NP Collab recently. I feel like 60 to 70 percent of the exam is good and the rest was irrelevant. Grammar was good honestly. Few questions I had to emulate the Jackie chan meme.

The exam material is honestly your best source of what to study. Then hit up those SRNDs and labbing.

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Original Poster1 point · 2 months ago

Glad to hear that, thanks and congrats!

I''m still working to finish my CCNP. I haven't even started the Collab track yet but based on previous exams, my opinion is that not only "english isn't their first language" I also feel like "they worded it tricky on purpose". I find it ridiculous that there are grammatical errors given that we're talking $300 per exam. Not only that but I have come across bugs in some simlets. I don't want to sound like I'm bitter but I've come to expect nothing less from Cisco than a poor quality test so I'd say to expect the same on the Collab exams.

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Original Poster1 point · 2 months ago

Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.

I also feel like "they worded it tricky on purpose" They do, but I can forgive this on a test as long as they do it in proper English. When they combine it with bad grammar, things get confusing.

As for the bugs in the simulator -- that's just getting you ready for working with their gear in the field!

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-1 points · 2 months ago

Jack Sparrow would love this thread.

17 points · 2 months ago

An example convo with my wife.

W: Anything crazy happen at work today?

Me: Nah nothing that crazy. (insert female co-workers name here) had spoiled a part of the new Game of Thrones episode for me though so I was kind of mad about that.

W: Why are you talking to her? Is there something you need to tell me?

.....this is why I don't talk about my day very often

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6 points · 2 months ago

W: Why are you talking to her? Is there something you need to tell me?

At this point, I'd share the spoiler with her.

For me, that chapter in HMS Surprise when Jack rescues Stephen from torture is the crowning chapter in a sea of amazing work that makes it difficult to choose a favorite.

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4 points · 2 months ago

Beware the Spoiler if you haven't ready the Commodore yet.

I really liked the touching passage from The Commodore when Stephen realizes that Jack has been subtly underplaying his musical abilities so that Stephen wouldn't lament the loss in dexterity he suffered from this incident.

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“Stephen had been put to sleep in his usual room, far from children and noise, away in that corner of the house which looked down to the orchard and the bowling-green, and in spite of his long absence it was so familiar to him that when he woke at about three he made his way to the window almost as quickly as if dawn had already broken, opened it and walked out onto the balcony. The moon had set: there was barely a star to be seen. The still air was delightfully fresh with falling dew, and a late nightingale, in an indifferent voice, was uttering a routine jug-jug far down in Jack's plantations; closer at hand and more agreeable by far, nightjars churred in the orchard, two of them, or perhaps three, the sound rising and falling, intertwining so that the source could not be made out for sure. There were few birds that he preferred to nightjars, but it was not they that had brought him out of bed: he stood leaning on the balcony rail and presently Jack Aubrey, in a summer-house by the bowling-green, began again, playing very gently in the darkness, improvising wholly for himself, dreaming away on his violin with a mastery that Stephen had never heard equalled, though they had played together for years and years.

Like many other sailors Jack Aubrey had long dreamed of lying in his warm bed all night long; yet although he could now do so with a clear conscience he often rose at unChristian hours, particularly if he were moved by strong emotion, and crept from his bedroom in a watch-coat, to walk about the house or into the stables or to pace the bowling-green. Sometimes he took his fiddle with him. He was in fact a better player than Stephen, and now that he was using his precious Guarnieri rather than a robust sea-going fiddle the difference was still more evident: but the Guarnieri did not account for the whole of it, nor anything like. Jack certainly concealed his excellence when they were playing together, keeping to Stephen's mediocre level: this had become perfectly clear when Stephen's hands were at last recovered from the thumb-screws and other implements applied by French counter-intelligence officers in Minorca; but on reflexion Stephen thought it had been the case much earlier, since quite apart from his delicacy at that period, Jack hated showing away.

Now, in the warm night, there was no one to be comforted, kept in countenance, no one could scorn him for virtuosity, and he could let himself go entirely; and as the grave and subtle music wound on and on, Stephen once more contemplated on the apparent contradiction between the big, cheerful, florid sea-officer whom most people liked on sight but who would have never been described as subtle or capable of subtlety by any one of them (except perhaps his surviving opponents in battle) and the intricate, reflective music he was now creating. So utterly unlike his limited vocabulary in words, at times verging upon the inarticulate.

'My hands have now regained the moderate ability they possessed before I was captured,' observed Maturin, 'but his have gone on to a point I never thought he could reach: his hands and his mind. I am amazed. In his own way he is the secret man of the world.” ― Patrick O'Brian, The Commodore

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As an aside, I just find this whole mentality frustrating. The main issue to converting to efax seems to be they want to just walk in and pick up their faxes off the printer.

So why isn't there an e-fax service out there that provides an OS service that just scans for fax emails from their company and automatically just sends them to a designated printer when received?

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1 point · 2 months ago

Several products exist that can do this. Some of the eFax providers have a PC client or server based client that can route the faxes to a printer.

SRND and the CCIE Quick reference guide are two good resources. I just started on the third exam. The official cert guide for it is unfinished...

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2 points · 2 months ago

...that's another thing. Cisco should ensure study materials are available before an exam goes live. Cisco Press should be working with the community of authors and SMEs to make sure this happens. It would be good for them; I'm sure that test sales slow down in the lull between the test being released and adequate study material becoming available.

1 point · 2 months ago

I used the Cisco Press books and the INE videos to study for my CCNP Voice.

I took the CCNP Voice just before it was retired. There was very little study material available. I believe this is because many candidates skip the CCNP and go for the CCIE. In hind sight, I probably should have done that.

I hope that the CCNP Collab tests are more relevant and materials are more available. If not, look for CCIE study materials and use those -- it's the same material.

The CCIE Collaboration Quick Reference Guide is pretty good. It's available on Scribd.

Good luck.

3 points · 2 months ago

New or Refurbished? I see a $1,000 new phone on CDW that is only $300 refurbished on third-party sites. If we stay with Cisco, should we purchase new or refurbished phones? We will not be adding the phones to SmartNet coverage, so is there a practical difference between new and refurbished?

Nobody pays retail for Cisco phones. Your partner should work to get you a discount. Some companies get over half off.

If you want to stick with Cisco and go to the cloud, there are plenty of partners who will provide you with hosted CUCM.

The decision of whether to go to cloud is a tough one -- how great is your WAN? What provider will you use? Are they on-net via MPLS and do you have redundancy to them? If your network and WAN to the provider aren't rock solid, the answer is "no".

If they are rock solid, or can be, the next question is ROI over a period of time. Many of the cloud solutions have good initial ROI and then it runs out after a few years (3-6 years). The biggest issue I see in hosted VOIP is that vendors often want to charge a ridiculous rate per user. I'm talking $30/mo in some cases. If you calculate the ROI on that vs. having your own system, the long-term costs of owning are lower.

Sometimes there are other compelling reasons to go to the cloud, though. Companies who open/close offices frequently and can find a provider who will accept month-to-month or minimum commit terms can find an advantage there. Flexibility and ease of moving from one site to another is better with hosted solutions. And no up-front costs -- all costs are op-ex, etc.

1 point · 3 months ago

The phones in your house aren't wired in series, they're wired in parallel. It won't matter which jack you plug into. Are you sure you want to buy from a company that doesn't understand how their product works?

Tell them to re-read the fucking Cisco Security Advisory, it's in there.

Are you using smart install? then all you need to do is disable feature with no vstack, there is no need to update the firmware unless you are using smart install. It's in the document

Print it out, get a nice bright highlighter and highlight the relevant info on it. Then fucking hit him with it, preferably with a brick attached to it.

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1 point · 3 months ago

Would you like to interview for a "Security Liaison" position? :D

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