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I stayed at my friend's place in Croydon when I visited the UK a couple months ago (I'm in the US). She's not far from the train station. I walked to and from every day on my own (once at 4:30am; most of the time was in the late morning or early evening.) and never had anything happen to me. Did I just get off lucky or something? The only thing I can think were that I had a couple chav kids approach me, trying to talk to me, as I got off the train (I'd just got in from Gatwick) but I just ignored them and they left me alone.

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No, there's nothing odd about that at all. I live in central Croydon and although its not the best area, you're most likely going to be fine. I've never thought twice about walking home late

Lived around South London all my life, never experienced any crime. To be honest I've always had the attitude that I'm going to get on with my life and not change my habits based on a possible crime, so it's not like I'm ever careful walking down the street or anything. I suppose when I was in school I heard some chavs discuss robbing me for some doughnuts I'd bought on the way home (eventually concluding that "Its not worth getting nabbed for some doughnuts innit"), but at a total value of under £1 its hardly crime of the century and they were in my year, so I knew them fairly well. Of course I didn't report their discussion.

A lot of people don't like them, but Pizza Hut still do deep pan.

Pizza Hut delivery is shit, but I actually quite enjoy their pizzas if you go and sit in the restaurant. Not entirely sure why it tastes so different

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They seem to be managed seperately. You can get a collection from the restaurants, if you select that on the website you'll see the different menu.

Estate agents, at least in London, are broadly incompetent, expensive scum.

This is factually incorrect. In fact, the dissent issued by Justice Ginsburg with the recent Supreme Court ruling(ruling in favor of employers) estimated the percentage of nonunion employers with mandatory class action wagers or arbitration agreements as a condition of employment in the U.S. as only 23.1%.

I’ve received mail regarding class action lawsuits many, many times years after employment had ended. Anyone who has ever signed that form and later received a check in the mail can attest.

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Wtf, you can actually sign away your right to take someone to court in the US? That's nuts

Fires (in general) seem to be getting more common across London, is that actually happening or is it purely a matter of them being reported more often after Grenfell? Or just me?

Sure, and they'll chase it. But the insurance company isn't going to need a guarantor for the tenant in order to write a policy for the landlord. That'd be insane. If they can't recover the debt, they lose. If they can, they still lose but just less. They win when the tenant pays as normal and there's no claim.

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But the insurance company isn't going to need a guarantor for the tenant in order to write a policy for the landlord. That'd be insane.

Actually, this is exactly how it works. The reason they require referencing as you mentioned above is they will not offer someone a policy without a certain amount of income relative to the rent. If referencing shows they do not make enough, insurance will require a guarantor. References usually suggest "Do not proceed without guarantor" or something to that effect in the document sent to the landlord if there are no issues other than income.

I love it. Sure I'm aware of its flaws, its expensive and dirty and the chav:not-chav ratio isn't ideal around me, but its so... Alive. It feels like there's always something happening. I tried living elsewhere and I just missed London. There's a lot to love about some other cities - I love Amsterdam and I think I'll have to try living there - but London in its ridiculous size is home.

I'll take the bland concrete over garishly ugly monstrosities like Saffron Square any day.

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I like it honestly, much more creative than most of the other buildings in the area and its well maintained.

"I only wish I had enough space for a small dining table as eating off a tray in front of the TV loses its novelty quickly."

This.. please - this... When i lived alone the saddest thing was eating my dinner from my lap everynight. ESPECIALLY if i had a visitor. Several times I baulked at paying Ikea 70/80quid for a table and 2 chairs. But my God does it lend a bit of civility to your life to be able to eat food from a table most nights of the week.

Moved house now and bought a table and love it.

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I have (a small) one but I never use it. I feel bored eating without TV and its much more comfortable to watch TV from the sofa. Maybe I need to set up a TV for my dining table.

I really hope they bring back the ability to damage objectives without arming the charge. It opened the door to some creative methods of defence in Bad Company 2. It would be perfect with these buildings IMO, maintaining tank traps to prevent vehicles from charging in with explosives or rebuilding walls to prevent the building collapsing with it inside. Of course they'd have to be careful to ensure it doesn't become too easy but if they pull it off Rush would probably become one of my favourites in BF5.

There was a really interesting show about this a few years ago, I can't remember what it was called. It went over the results of a massive few weeks long power outage across London, the hospitals desperately rationing the remaining backup power for life support, people looting and desperate for food, theives stealing anything of particular use from their old neighbours. I think it was on channel 4?

India has an incredibly complicated tariff structure and is not transparent about its administration. Having said that, it is beyond dispute that they have several tariffs in excess of 100%.

Cherry-picking the motorcycle example in response to this news without acknowledging that fact is deliberately dishonest reporting.

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So does the US, see the 350% tariff on tobacco or 160% tariff on peanuts.

Trump also says that America has a fairly balanced trading relationship with France but that the U.S-European trading relationship is very unfair.

Has he forgotten about the single market again?

I believe this is referred to as the "1st v 5th" debate in the US. Whether the right to a fair trial supersedes the rights of the press or the other way around. The UK has always leaned towards the "5th" having supremacy while the US seems to lean towards the "1st" but US courts still, on occasions, place reporting restrictions on trials in certain circumstances.

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US courts still, on occasions, place reporting restrictions on trials in certain circumstances

Would you happen to have an example of this? I don't know anything about the topic but I was told these are fairly unique to the UK, I'd be interested to read about it happening in the US too.

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I don't see the problem here then. The accused were already on trial, then Tommy broke the law and as such was also tried. Is this not what you're asking for, people who break the law being taken to court and punished for their crimes? Or is that only for immigrants?

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Some inaccuracies here.

unjust imprisonment of Tommy Robininson. Took less than an hour to give Tommy 13 months

I don't think it's unjust at all, he knew what the law was and chose to break it. He plead guilty and had been found guilty of the same crime previously.

It took 5 hours, not one. I'm glad the system was able to handle it in a short period of time, which I'd expect considering the simplicity of the case.

but they still havent charged those muslims rapists

He was literally arrested for filming at such a trial. How could they be on trial without having been charged?

He decided to jeopardise the trial by ignoring the judges order to prevent reporting until it was complete (which by law must be within a few days) as they believed it would effect the ability for a fair trial to be held. Did you even look up what happened before posting your comment?

England belongs to the English, fuck diveristy.

Unfortunately, I think you lost that battle a long time ago mate. Most of us here are quite proud of Britain's diversity and it isn't going away.

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No. There is no political point scoring. Nobody is leveraging this tragedy for their own narrative and it's appalling to turn this into a partisan issue.

The evidence is there. The cladding, the stay put policy, the complaints not being listened to, one staircase in the entire building. It was built on the cheap with no regard for the safety of occupants given their social status.

It is obvious who is to blame. This is not point scoring; we know exactly what happened and why.

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one staircase in the entire building

This isn't unusual. Most modern blocks of flats only have one, including higher end buildings. The staircases should have fire doors and an air pressurisation system to prevent the fire spreading into it in worst case scenarios. Each property should be designed to contain fire for long enough that the fire dept can put it out before its a threat to the other residents, its not typical for the whole building to be evacuated if someone's fire alarm goes off.

I do agree with you though, there are so many really horrible things that happened with that building and someone needs to be held accountable. The posts on the Grenfell Action Group blog are really horrifying, they essentially predicted this and had their complaints ignored.

What makes you think bug soda won't just pass this on to the consumer anyway? Because they would have.

Soda is so dirt cheap that this would have to increase soda prices by 150% to make a difference but I don't see this tax doing anything other than making a big gulp 90 cents instead of 75.

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What makes you think bug soda won't just pass this on to the consumer anyway?

They will, that's the point. The consumer can see the drink right next to it isn't more expensive, and is more likely to choose the healthier option instead. Alternatively the company could choose to preserve their sales by selling a drink with less sugar that is not subject to the tax, or absorb it internally and make less profit to the benefit of the public purse.

Here's a study on Mexico's decision to implement sugar taxes in the British Medical Journal:

Study answer and limitations

Relative to the counterfactual in 2014, purchases of taxed beverages decreased by an average of 6% (−12 mL/capita/day), and decreased at an increasing rate up to a 12% decline by December 2014. All three socioeconomic groups reduced purchases of taxed beverages, but reductions were higher among the households of low socioeconomic status, averaging a 9% decline during 2014, and up to a 17% decrease by December 2014 compared with pretax trends. Purchases of untaxed beverages were 4% (36 mL/capita/day) higher than the counterfactual, mainly driven by an increase in purchases of bottled plain water.

Well look at tarrifs in France and compare them to USA. You will rapidly find that France has far higher tariffs then USA on virtually every single product.

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Since you won't provide a source I looked it up. France doesn't set its tariffs, the EU does. Tariffs on both sides average under 2% between the EU and US while the majority of products face none at all.

The World Bank puts the EU tariff average at 1.6% and the US tariff average at 1.61%. Do you have some contradictory data?

Finland already got 45 guns per 100 ppl. Why not both?

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The US has more than double that (101), this says 27 for Finland

That's the thing, there were people locked in those jails for years without even a trial.

People who hadn't even seen a jury yet to say whether or not they should even be in jail were held for multiple years in conditions worse than a prison.

How are people okay with this? This is exactly the kind of shit the "second amendment people" are talking about needing protection from. A government that ignores the rule of law to punish citizens for no other crime than angering someone with power.

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The US has a ridiculously high incarceration rate relative to other countries (per capita), with only one country with a 92k population having more. I personally find this extremely concerning, not even China comes close even without considering it on a per capita basis. Of course forced prison labour is legal in the US too.

The United States has the largest prison population in the world,[1][2][3] and the second-highest per-capita incarceration rate, behind Seychelles (which in 2014 had a total prison population of 735 out of a population of around 92,000).[1][4] In 2013 in the USA, there were 698 persons incarcerated per 100,000 population.[5][1]

While the United States represents about 4.4 percent of the world's population, it houses around 22 percent of the world's prisoners.[6][7]

Comparing other English-speaking developed countries,[1] the incarceration rate of the Republic of Ireland is 85 per 100,000 (as of 2014),[8] Canada is 106 per 100,000 (as of 2014),[9] England and Wales is 148 per 100,000 (as of 2015),[10] and Australia is 151 per 100,000 (as of 2015).[11] Comparing other developed countries, the rate of Spain is 141 per 100,000 (as of 2015),[12] Greece is 120 per 100,000 (as of 2013),[13] Norway is 71 per 100,000 (as of 2015),[14] Netherlands is 75 per 100,000 (as of 2013),[15] and Japan is 49 per 100,000 (as of 2014).[16]

Comparing other countries with similar percentages of immigrants, Germany has a rate of 76 per 100,000 (as of 2014),[17] Italy is 85 per 100,000 (as of 2015),[18] and Saudi Arabia is 161 per 100,000 (as of 2013).[19] Comparing other countries with a zero tolerance policy for illegal drugs, the rate of Russia is 455 per 100,000 (as of 2015),[20] Kazakhstan is 275 per 100,000 (as of 2015),[21] Singapore is 220 per 100,000 (as of 2014),[22] and Sweden is 60 per 100,000 (as of 2014).[23]

The incarceration rate of the People's Republic of China varies depending on sources and measures. According to the International Centre for Prison Studies, the rate for only sentenced prisoners is 120 per 100,000 (as of 2009) and the rate for prisoners including those in administrative detention and pre-trial detainees is 186 per 100,000 (as of 2009).[1] Su Jiang assessed the incarceration rate for all forms of imprisonment in China at 218 prisoners per 100,000 population.[24] The total number of prisoners held, 1.6 million, is second to that of the United States despite its population being over four times larger. Harry Wu, a U.S.-based human rights activist and ex-Chinese labor camp prisoner, estimates that "in the last 60 years, more than 40–50 million people" were in Chinese labor camps.[25]

Fly tipping happens everywhere around me. There is always something new that has somehow magically appeared during the night. Not only that, but for some reason, some of my neighbours are happy to put out black bin sacks next to their wheelie bins. I have no idea why they don’t put it inside the bin. But they are inevitably torn open by the foxes during the night.

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Maybe the bin is too full?

Actually, he did

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Can you provide a source? This suggests he has increased funding while the central government has reduced it.

This might be my ignorance, but this site says the Mayor decided?

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Your article says he invested more and that central government funding has fallen. The mayor controls some of the budget, not all of it.

The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, will commit today to investing an additional £110million into the Metropolitan Police in the next year. The Mayor will confirm this investment as his Budget is considered for approval by the London Assembly.

This investment means City Hall is paying a greater percentage of the overall police budget in the capital than ever before – up from 18 per cent in 2010 to 23 per cent today, pushing the burden for policing the capital city away from general taxation and onto hard-pressed Londoners.

Since 2010-11, the Met’s general grant funding from the Government has fallen by more than £700 million, or nearly 40 per cent in real terms, on a like-for-like basis. In recent years, the Met Police have had to find roughly £600m of savings and the Mayor has found a further £150million of savings since he took office.

This has led to the loss of a third of police staff posts, which are down from 14,330 to 9,985, as well as two-thirds of police community support officer (PSCO) posts, which are down from 4,607 to 1,591. In addition, there are now 114 fewer police station front counters and 120 fewer police buildings.

Sadiq has today confirmed that his Budget will include the following additional investment into the Metropolitan Police in 2018-19.

  • £49million to be raised by a 5.1 per cent council tax increase. This will be spent on combatting knife crime, a two per cent police pay increase and boosting officer numbers.

  • £55million raised from business rates income so the Metropolitan Police do not have to borrow the amount previously planned for investing in police buildings and new technology.

  • This will lead to a £3.3million annual saving in interest payments that will be spent on improving support for those taken in by the police with mental health problems.

  • £5million to be spent on recruiting additional police officers in the coming year.

  • From 2019-20, Sadiq will invest an additional £59million annually raised predominantly from business rates income to support an extra 1,000 police officers than would otherwise be affordable by using income raised from business rates.

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Then why are sanctuary cities being used as a safe haven for illegsls to protect against ice if they have rights?

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They do not have the right to remain in the country, they have the right to various other things such as a fair trial.

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Your perspective is not constitutional. It does not only apply to citizens.


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