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What would be the best option here, for cost effectiveness as well as time?

A few guildies said that Legendary T6 2 hands on give 1500 xp, whereas Legendary 2 handed Ayanads give like 5k!?

Seems a little nuts.

Any advice/tips help!

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2 points · 4 days ago

Just wait for patch to feed any erenor to any erenor like hiram.

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Original Poster1 point · 3 days ago

Is that officially happening?? Which patch?

Well in the current meta you can only feed 2h to 2h. However in a update in the distant future you will be able to feed 1h to 2h unsure about the exp values.

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Original Poster1 point · 10 days ago

Very informative, thank you. I shall be on the lookout for Leggo 2h Ayanads!

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Hey r/netwokring!

Today I come seeking advice for managing a set of identical access-lists (per VLAN) when implementing a FHRP on a pair of layer 3 switches. To me, this seems like a major nightmare, and I would rather just move the layer 3 functionality up to a pair of firewalls (Active/Standby), where I would only have to manage 1 set of ACLs and retain my first hop redundancy.

Any tips or tricks when managing multiple sets of ACLs, such as tools to ensure that they are indeed identical?

if I recall, there's actually a feature that can replicate the ACLs over to the other switch, but from what I remember it was buggy as all get out.

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Okie dokie. This is not as hard as it might seem. Years ago when all of our VLANs had ACLs in front of them(now firewalled) we used a tool we wrote to keep things straight. We called it acledit. Anyway, the easy part comes from just keeping a single file and uploading it via SNMP to both of the routers/layer 3 switches. Our original tool was written in Perl but I rewrote the upload portion of it in Python. Or you can do it from a linux box like this:

  • snmpset -c <SNMP WRITE> -v 2c <Switch IP> 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.2.100 i 1
  • snmpset -c <SNMP WRITE> -v 2c <Switch IP> 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.3.100 i 1
  • snmpset -c <SNMP WRITE> -v 2c <Switch IP> 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.4.100 i 4
  • snmpset -c <SNMP WRITE> -v 2c <Switch IP> 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.5.100 a <TFTP Server>
  • snmpset -c <SNMP WRITE> -v 2c <Switch IP> 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.6.100 s <Commands File>
  • snmpset -c <SNMP WRITE> -v 2c <Switch IP> 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.14.100 i 1

More information can be found here on exactly what each OID does: http://www.ciscozine.com/send-cisco-commands-via-snmp/

Hope that helps. Edit: Formatting.

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Original Poster2 points · 16 days ago

This is great! Thank you very much

5 points · 16 days ago

Push them out with Ansible or a similar tool.

Be aware that ACLs are not stateful. As such, you need to define your allowed traffic in both directions...which gets very ugly. You should use a firewall to do this if your rules are at all complicated (and I'm talking about more than 3-4 lines in the ACL).

Use VRF Lite on your layer 3 switches to keep the traffic zones segmented while retaining your FHRP and other routed relationships, as well as the ability to do line-speed routing between VLANs within a single zone. Uplink each VRF to the firewall and perform your zone-to-zone traffic filtering there.

Much more scalable and easy to maintain.

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Original Poster1 point · 16 days ago

That would work, or I was thinking about trunking a 40g bond trunk up to the firewall, and just using port-channel sub-interfaces on my firewall (ASA) for each network, keeping all of the security zones on my firewall as well.

Good point on the stateful/not stateful functions of IOS ACLs. I've been exclusively doing ACL filtering on stateful ASAs for a few years now, so I've begun to take it for granted by forgetting that ACLs are not stateful on the routers and multi-layer switches. Gross.

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Hey guys and gals,

I I'd like to try and knock this exam out before my CCNA Voice expires in September. To those who have taken it, what did you use to study, and did you find the exam difficult?

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I used the Cisco press book, and Cisco website documentation. The exam itself and material is soul sucking as it's all EoL video gear and what not.

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Original Poster1 point · 23 days ago

Fantastic.....

Easy - Aggressive Inline

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Hey all,

I created this post to dig into BGP convergence time a bit, to hopefully get some more clarity. In our datacenters we have 2 routers that host an eBGP session to their own provider. Obviously the backup is set to heavily prepped our AS several more times than our primary.

In your experiences, how long would it roughly take to fail-over if a rat bit the primary connection in half and hard downed our primary session? I know the ISP's end would detect that and toss out our route immediately, but I know it would still take a bit to communicate that with upstream routers as well as other ISPs, due to the minimum advertisement interval of 30 second. From what I understand, BGP doesn't do triggered updates like other IGPs, rather it would wait 30 seconds to send any revised routes over to its other peers.

Any insight would be awesome!

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I tested convergence time on a new setup for dia services we provide customers, where we have redundant L3 interfaces on Nokia sr’s and l2 extended with Eline to aggregation routers. Takes about 15 seconds to reconverge. This is a non bgp customer. Wonder if it would take much longer if customer had bgp sessions With us.

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Original Poster1 point · 23 days ago

Generally speaking, BGP takes a lot longer to converge than other protocols.

Hi OP, Could you not just set up IP SLA using ICMP for your Primary provider and if they're not reachable then pass the traffic through the secondary provider?

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Original Poster2 points · 24 days ago

I could, but that would only control outbound traffic, not inbound.

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Hey r/networking,

In my environment, we have two edge ASRs that are each peering to a different provider via eBGP. Each of them are receiving a default route and the partial routing table from their respective peers. Directly downstream from these two ASRs lives our production firewall. All three of these devices are on the same broadcast domain, and I have configured unicast EIGRP to neighbor up the ASA to the two ASRs, but the ASRs only peer with the firewall, not each other. I then redistribute just the default routes from both eBGP sessions into EIGRP and advertise that to the ASA. I obviously tweak the metric on the backup ASR so the ASA chooses one of the default routes.

I have tested failovers, and I know that it works as intended. If the primary BGP session drops, the redistributed default route is removed from EIGRP and our ASA uses the backup default route to the backup ASR.

1- Is this is a realistic approach?

2- Do I need to spin up iBGP between the two ASRs in this case? I personally don't see a reason to do it, as each ASR has their own default route and are both handing that down to the firewall via EIGRP.

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if you are receiving a default route and partial prefixes from your provider why not just accept default?

ibgp in this set up will makes sense if you are arbitrating between your edge devices and deciding who got the best route.

Is your production firewall a single one or part of a cluster? Active/Active or Active/Standby?

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Original Poster1 point · 24 days ago

We are using a pair of 5585Xs in Active/Standby.

I see what you're saying with the default route + partial routes. I guess my original thinking was to use iBGP between the two routers, but after I set up EIGRP to our firewalls, I didn't see a major point for iBGP at the time. iBGP makes more sense now.

Is there a reason you need dynamic routing on the firewalls?

Assuming its just an inside/outside traffic flow then a static default works here

Set up your edge routers in an HSRP/VRRP configuration and have the static route on the firewall point to the VIP.

Downstream from your firewalls i assume you have a pair of routers that are in the same vlan as the firewall. Do the same thing. Set those guys up as a HSRP pair and have your firewall point towards them for any traffic towards your inside.

I dont see a need for EIGRP/iBGP.

Just static and bgp with your provider. Accept only the default route. Perhaps choose one ASR to be the primary (use local pref) and call it a day. No need to over complicate this.

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Original Poster1 point · 24 days ago

I choose to do EIGRP to the routers because in addition to the eBGP connections to the ISPs, we also have several eBGP circuits to various vendors (we are a financial trading firm), who we get a handful of routes directly from. I advertise this all to the downstream core firewalls, with a heavier metric on the backups, so that if the primary (EIGRP best-path) goes down, it can quickly install the backup route.

Our firewall is actually the gateway for each network, rather than doing the routing on our core switches. We have a 40g bonded trunk down to our core switches, and simply use sub-interfaces on the firewalls for each network. We did this because we need very strict and locked down ACLs, and it's just so much easier to do that on a firewall. Managing two sets of identical ACL lists on each HSRP switch is a fucking nightmare.

We are also heavily using vPC, so everything from the access layer to the core/firewall layers is load balanced across our switching

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Hey all,

I created this post to dig into BGP convergence time a bit, to hopefully get some more clarity. In our datacenters we have 2 routers that host an eBGP session to their own provider. Obviously the backup is set to heavily prepped our AS several more times than our primary.

In your experiences, how long would it roughly take to fail-over if a rat bit the primary connection in half and hard downed our primary session? I know the ISP's end would detect that and toss out our route immediately, but I know it would still take a bit to communicate that with upstream routers as well as other ISPs, due to the minimum advertisement interval of 30 second. From what I understand, BGP doesn't do triggered updates like other IGPs, rather it would wait 30 seconds to send any revised routes over to its other peers.

Any insight would be awesome!

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Original Poster1 point · 25 days ago · edited 25 days ago

Thank you so much for the information. I’m having trouble wrapping my head around triggered updates vs the advertisement interval. So a router doesn’t necessarily send an update every 30 seconds, it will only do that if it has something new to say. If it doesn’t, then it will just keep quiet and wait for something to change, which would occur instantly if it hadn’t already sent an update within the last 30 seconds?

It’s essentially very similar to EIGRP, in that it will send a full update when the neighborship is established, and then keep quiet until there’s something new to say (minus the advertisement interval in EIGRP)?

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Hey all,

I'm making this post to hopefully get some insight on this topic, as I have heard many conflicting stories about a Conductor's annual salary.

Long story short, I ran into an old friend that has been working at BNSF as a Conductor, or Engineer. We got into talking about some personal information, and after being there for about 5 years, he said he's pulling in around $325k per year. I was stunned. I then asked him about the starting salary. He stated that after your conductor training (15 weeks), you will start at a base minimum salary of 180k, with a potential to make much more if you take the right jobs.

In utter disbelief, I took to the internet to see if I could find anything to back this up. I did not. In fact, the salaries posted online from other BNSF conductors state pretty much the opposite of what he's telling me. I'm seeing a pretty steady average of around 80k/year (and that's the high end) from a lot of different sources online.

Is this guy just full of shit? Or am I missing something?

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Pretty much the only way to break the 120k mark is to borrow out. It's easy to make 120 on a pool with a lot of miles. Max I've ever seen anyone make is 11.5k a half and the board was turning so fast they looked sick. That was on a lean long pull extra board.

Dude is probably trying to impress you which should make you more sad than angry lol.

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Original Poster1 point · 29 days ago

Even if he’s technically titled at a “locomotive engineer” rather than a conductor?

Engineers often make less than conductors even though their pay rate is higher. There is NO way that dude is pulling down the type of cash he's saying he is. There's no way he is even coming close to half that, because if he was he wouldn't have time to talk to you. If I've got a 6k half coming in I pretty much work go home sleep get up and work again. My woman packs my cooler and kisses me on the way out the door and that's the limit of our interactions when it's turning fast like that and I'm on a 200 mile short turn. He'd have to be doing double the miles and the same rate 12 months in the year with no uncompensated days off to be making 150k a year.

The short answer is he's trying real hard to impress you for some reason. Maybe he's gay, maybe he's just one of those guys that lies about stupid shit. Either way he's not pulling down more than a service unit superintendent working on a train.

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Original Poster1 point · 29 days ago

Yeah wow, fuck that guy for literally spewing horse shit

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Hey all,

I've seen some posts stating that they are extending the summer split due to the massive 5.13 patch. Is surely isn't true, right, and the split ends tomorrow? On the ranked tab, I show that there's 0 days remaining.

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On console we still have a week.

The week PC got a patch late in order to sync PC and console, messed up your countdown. So I believe it’ll switch over with the new patch and therefore console next Tuesday :)

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Original Poster1 point · 1 month ago

So when will the split end for the PC? I need to made sure I don't get demoted due to decay :/

The 24th?

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We are free tonight thru Thursday night to grind as much as possible before the split ends. Voice chat preferred. Please message me if you're interested and available. We would like to start by 6pm CST and go as late as possible (11pm or so).

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It's probably against the rules to post on the main page, seeking out a player for ranked 3s. Is there a more appropriate spot for this?

A friend and I are essentially seeking a decent 3rd player (tank) to grind out some ranked joust this week (evenings) before the split ends.

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Original Poster1 point · 1 month ago

Thank you so much!

Yeah, it would be fun.

I bought the OCG for the CCDA but now I've ended up focusing primarily on Juniper recently for work. Eventually, back to Cisco.

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Ugh, I’m sorry. I managed a dozen pair if SRX 5500s for a year, and I wanted to blow my brains out.

Their virtual chassis stuff is pretty cool though.

LMAO I'm actually enjoying Junos and how they firewall compared to Cisco's ASA. /shrug

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1 point · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

I think I just refused to give them a chance. They are just truly night and day apart. I did love the commit confirm feature tho. Saved my ass several times.

I just ran into so many fucking bugs with their cluster stuff. Random bits of config wouldn’t replicate. There was numerous times where one of them would fail, and the other cluster member would only pick up a portion of the config. It was retarded.

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Hey Smiters,

Can anyone shed some light on how the loading frame rewards work with the Season and Season Splits. Say for the first split I made it to Plat, and the second split I make it to Diamond, will I get a Plat and a Diamond loading frame at the end of each split, or does it take your max rank from all of the splits and reward you with that loading frame at the end of the entire season? Or is it something else? I'll be at Diamond joust in 15 days (end of current split), and I'm curious if I'll get my diamond border then, or if I'll have to wait until the whole season is over in ~200 days.

Thanks for the replies in advance!

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You get 1 border with the highest rank from all the splits

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Original Poster1 point · 1 month ago

Looks like last season you could get 3 borders for all of the modes:

https://hirezajax.tumblr.com/post/164297641068/how-will-the-season-4-ranked-loading-frame-rewards

No. Pale Raven was a limited reward only for those who achieved 75 wins during Season 4 ranked. Right now, if you reach those 75 wins before january you’ll get a limited skin that has yet to be announced.

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So say I get those 75 wins, and am diamond joust, masters duel, and plat conq. Will I get 3 loading frames featuring each of those ranks at the top of the frame?

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Hey all,

Help me out! I'm in the market for a new beast. I play heavy MOBAS and MMOs, as well as some heavy FPS games. Budget is $3,500 and would prefer using SLI graphics if they aren't a pain in the butt.

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1 point · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

For the price, I would look for more than 1080p personally, but yeah that's a nice monitor. I do think you could get a very good asus with higher than 1080p resolutions and a 165hz rating and still have plenty of money left over. G-sync is a must have in that price range.

Edit- I see it's got an overclock range to 160hz which is awesome, newegg has it for less than 800, yeah that's a nice deal.

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Original Poster1 point · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

Which one are you seeing on Newegg for 800?

I see the Alienware for 1,130

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8 points · 2 months ago · edited 1 month ago

Question for you. Where do you believe “grey market” watches originate? They were ALL sold new by an AD. Every. Single. One. Naming and dating the warranty card is precisely how most AD’s stay out of the kind of trouble with Rolex you are describing when they sell a watch to a grey market seller. That way they can always claim innocence in knowing the watch would end up on the grey market.

The warranty always follows the watch, not the buyer.

Do you know how many watches are bought as corporate gifts, graduation presents, anniversaries, weddings, birthdays, valentines, etc. every year? If all of them needed the original purchaser to be present upon servicing the watch under warranty, half the watches would be ineligible.

It’s the “open” warranty cards you have to be cautious with...some sellers advertise those watches that way because it allows the grey market buyer to add their own name (LATE EDIT: and date) to the card as though they were the first purchaser, but in the case of warranty service required it could be a nightmare.

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1 point · 1 month ago · edited 1 month ago

half the watches would be ineligible.

HALF? Man, you're too generous. I would put my money on at least 80-90%. ADs would LOVE it if that were the case - no one would dare purchase a watch anywhere other than the AD lol

Congratulations, but be warned.

There is balance when it comes to certifications and real-world experience. The CCNA level exams are a good basic (Yes, basic) foundation to obtain as you enter the world of networking. It doesn't matter how old you are, if you're 'book smart', you can take and pass pretty much any CCNA level exam, even some CCNP exams I could argue. Certifications don't make you a rockstar, being able to apply your knowledge in the real world, on real world equipment makes you a rockstar.

A CCNP certified individual with 1 year of networking experience is going to raise A LOT of eyebrows come interview time. Take my word for it. It's great that you're 17 and getting certified - no doubt, but at your age I would focus much more on getting some real world XP, rather than having 3 CCNAs at age 19.

That’s fair enough but the guy is going to get tonnes of experience just through people lowballing him with wages at first. I know that’s what I would do. I mean you would be a shoe in to get a junior level job or apprenticeship with a CCNA. There’s is no doubt the OP is on track to do something amazing with his life. Keep up the good work OP.

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No doubt, he just came off a little braggy being that he mentioned his age. If you look at this history, he does that for ever little cert he’s gotten. If he left his age out of it, I wouldn’t have written a long post.

I am. To be honest, I went through a devastating break up which made me realize that I was the problem and that my anger and negativity had pushed away the person who I loved above all. I found God in my despair and my life was changed that day. I have tried from then to be a Kinder and more gentle humble person. I try not to let anger rule me like it used to. I'm happy to have learnt my lesson on why anger is such a bitter poison and I am better off for it.

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This is literally what is happening to my relationship, and I'm afraid it's too late for me to try and make it better. Finally realizing that you alone are the result of the love of your life ceasing to love you is the worst feeling I've ever felt. I'd rather dislocate my knee again, as that was less painful.

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Hey all,

Looking to start over in after a long break. Any insight on the top classes right now (DPS/Burst) wise would be extremely appreciated!

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For PvE or PvP?

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Original Poster1 point · 3 months ago

Mostly PvP

Zerker, Musa. Ranger can burst as well, but i'd put her more so under the best DPS category

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Original Poster1 point · 3 months ago

What is your take on Wizards?

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Has there been any rumors about when Cisco is going to update the CCNP RS? Is there usually a grace period that they will still let you take the old exams until they are finally deprecated?

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Its has been quite a bit since Cisco updated the CCNP R/S track...8 years I believe. Rumor has it that they will revamp soon and yes, they do give a grace period to take the old exams. I expect heavy changes on that Cert so best do it quickly.

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Original Poster4 points · 3 months ago

I want to at least knock out SWITCH. I need to recert my NP Security before the fall. Should be doable within a few months.

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Hey r/CCNP,

This weekend I will be replacing the primary ASA in my H/A pair of 5585Xs. What I mean by primary, is when I originally configured H/A, this unit was marked as the primary unit, and the other was the secondary. Is there anyone here who was done this that can give me a brief rundown of this process? I will post my strategy as of right now below, in a step by step. If I'm doing something wrong, or missing something, please let me know.

1- Receive the new RMA unit. Upgrade the image to match that of the current active unit. Install the same license as the current active unit. Install any flash images, such as Anyconnect, directly on the new RMA unit

2- Configure the same exact set of failover commands that is on the current (failing) primary to the new RMA unit.

3- In the datacenter, ensure that the Secondary unit is Active. Remove the failing unit. Remove all up-link and interface modules, and insert them in the new RMA unit. Also take the SSP hard drive out of the failing on and insert in the new one??

4- Rack the new RMA unit and connect all of the connections. Lastly, connect the failover cable and pray that the 'Secondary-Active' unit take its config and writes it to the newly added "Primary-Standby Ready' unit, and not the opposite, like I've seen happen to people.

How does that look? My two huge follow up questions are below:

1- Is it necessary to, once I remove the failing unit from the H/A cluster, make the current "Secondary-Active' unit the Primary, and then configure the new RMA unit as the secondary? I just want to avoid all possibilities of the new RMA unit with a blank config, overwriting my production firewall when they detect each other.

2- In step 3, is it necessary to also install the SSP of the failing unit in the new RMA unit? From what I've researched, the SSP is mostly used for IPS/IDS services, which we are not running in our datacenter.

Thank for very much in advance for the feedback.

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Connect all your cables to your new primary unit when it is powered off, people consistently connect the failover cable whilst both ASAs are up which is a big no-no

When your new primary boots it will see it’s connected partner as active and go into a standby role after downloading the config, please whatever you do don’t connect them while up or you will flatten your production environment

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Original Poster1 point · 3 months ago

So as long as the new unit is configured as the primary, while the current active unit is the secondary, it won’t matter, as long as the new unit powered off when you connect the failover?

Exactly

You can spin up this situation in GNS3 quite easily if you want to be sure of your process

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Original Poster1 point · 3 months ago

I’ll look into that! Would you recommend using the SSP hard disk of failed unit, or just use the one that the new one came with?

Isn't this auto douche such an asshole. Anyhow you earned it and deserve it bro. Happy wearing Man. Enjoy it in wealth and health. Too many haters.

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Dude, out of all people, you are the LAST person that should be calling other people a douche bag.

Oh, here’s my fancy submariner. Don’t mind my $400 dollars in the background that I’ve been working 2 months for

What a joke.

2 points · 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

Show him your pay-stub lmao. That should humble him a bit.

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Hey r/networking,

This weekend I will be replacing the primary ASA in my H/A pair of 5585Xs. What I mean by primary, is when I originally configured H/A, this unit was marked as the primary unit, and the other was the secondary. Is there anyone here who was done this that can give me a brief rundown of this process? I will post my strategy as of right now below, in a step by step. If I'm doing something wrong, or missing something, please let me know.

1- Receive the new RMA unit. Upgrade the image to match that of the current active unit. Install the same license as the current active unit. Install any flash images, such as Anyconnect, directly on the new RMA unit

2- Configure the same exact set of failover commands that is on the current (failing) primary to the new RMA unit.

3- In the datacenter, ensure that the Secondary unit is Active. Remove the failing unit. Remove all up-link and interface modules, and insert them in the new RMA unit. Also take the SSP hard drive out of the failing on and insert in the new one??

4- Rack the new RMA unit and connect all of the connections. Lastly, connect the failover cable and pray that the 'Secondary-Active' unit take its config and writes it to the newly added "Primary-Standby Ready' unit, and not the opposite, like I've seen happen to people.

How does that look? My two huge follow up questions are below:

1- Is it necessary to, once I remove the failing unit from the H/A cluster, make the current "Secondary-Active' unit the Primary, and then configure the new RMA unit as the secondary? I just want to avoid all possibilities of the new RMA unit with a blank config, overwriting my production firewall when they detect each other.

2- In step 3, is it necessary to also install the SSP of the failing unit in the new RMA unit? From what I've researched, the SSP is mostly used for IPS/IDS services, which we are not running in our datacenter.

Thank for very much in advance for the feedback.

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Honestly last few times I did it kind of a lazy way and it works like a charm. First of all obviously prepare hardware properly - that really depends and update to the same software version. Next just copy the failover configuration accordingly, keeping it exactly the same as on the failed primary device. You don't need anything else from the configuration. Just remember to active the failover. Save, turn the device off. Connect failover cables between devices. Leave data cables disconnected from the Primary. Boot Primary up. This gives us two things - non-connected data cables will assure new device will be in failed state in a failover after sync and will not try passing any traffic and booting up from full shut down will assure that new Primary device will see the Secondary/Active device first and get device from that. There are other ways of doing it, like turning failover off and then turning it on, copying full config, etc., but this is kind of a safe and easy option.

And no, I would not make Secondary/Active unit Primary. I don't see any point in doing it. I would install everything from hardware as it was on the failed unit just have consistency - even if the SSP is not used, you don't have to send it back for RMA, so let it stay there. Failover don't have to monitor that, so no harm.

Edit: Oh, just check the files that are not sync`ed automagically - AnyConnect profiles, etc. Again - depends on feature set used there.

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Original Poster1 point · 3 months ago

Thank you very much for this. Leaving the data connections disconnected and only connecting the failover connection is smart, that way the new device will most certainly be in an unhealthier state than the current active.

Save running-config from Active device to flash, copy to ftp.

Copy config from ftp to RMA device(via USB if necessary). Set RMA ASA to boot up to the config on flash.

I've done it before, nothing to it.

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Original Poster1 point · 3 months ago

That makes sense. Thank you!

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This subreddit has been bringing out the douches lately. Did you see the comments from the guy who posted his three watch collection the other day? I think he called his GMT a “panty dropper” and said wearing his sub makes him more confident around women.

Did you decide what to do on your watch?

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Oh, god. No I haven't seen that. I'll have to look that up.

I've officially decided on the latest sub-date. I was a little bummed/surprised that they didn't release one at Basil, with an updated movement. Even if they did, it would probably be at least a year wait until it's on your wrist.

I called my AD to have them let me know as soon as a new 116610LN shows up! I'll keep you fellas posted!

That's the exact same situation as me. Disappointed with no updated movement so I'm waiting to hear back from a few ADs about the 116610LN.

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I don't know why they had to go and make 2-3 new GMT variants, with no love to the Submariner, haha. I personally would have been stoked if all they did was upgrade the movement. I think the cosmetics as is are stunning.

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20 points · 4 months ago

I have some pretty serious difficulties sleeping, and almost always have had. So I love to sleep, especially because I get so little of it.

Some years ago, when I was trying to decide if I would stay with my then-girlfriend, who wanted kids, I thought very deeply about it. One of the big things on the list of negatives was that - given how badly I already sleep - the lack of sleep from having kids would likely make me sick all the time (I get sick if I don't get enough sleep). It was a very big factor (among many others) of my decision.

So I'm with you there. :-)

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Would you mind walking through your entire decision? I'm currently facing this very conundrum. I love my S/O of two years very much, but I've made the decision to be CF, when I know she definitely wants kids.

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