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In my area, multiaccounting is unfortunately tolerated and most players have a secondary account they use to get higher numbers in raids.

Now with additional Premier Balls, additional damage bonus and discounted trades for "best friends" (two accounts that interact on at least 90 distinct days), what can stop everyone to become "best friends" with their own alt account?


I do not understand the hate on alts accounts. I've been to raids that never would have happened without them. My pokedex would be worse off and my enjoyment of the game would be far less. I would have stopped playing and stopped paying.

Can they do a little gym manipulation? Sure. Do I care? NO. Because the gym system sucks right now. I only want my pokemon in there for 8 hours. And even then, I usually drop a few so 3-4 hours is plenty. And if I miss 50 coins, I miss 50 coins. It's not a significant amount. But it does really need to be revamped. Gyms probably shouldn't give out coins. They probably should be more training and maybe do away with control all together. I'd love to see them become more like the game where they are NPC filled type specific. And leaving your Pokemon in there for specific time period increased an IV or gave you items or increased level.

As for raids, the extra couple balls is fine. I'd rather have 10 balls than 0 balls from not beating it. And if you have enough people, split into groups and everyone can get extra balls.

When it comes to raids, people managing multiple accounts tend to better educated on raid boss counters and tend to have their crap together. I'd gladly take one person on their game over two people just using the recommended.

Also there is NO PVP in this game. So there's no advantage to dumping the best pokemon from multiple accounts into one.

So the impact on you is probably negligible/a wash. I can't believe the whining over something that shouldn't matter.

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Original Poster3 points · 9 hours ago

When it comes to raids, people managing multiple accounts tend to better educated on raid boss counters and tend to have their crap together.

Or instead they just count on the brute force of multiple accounts and go in with the autoselector. I think education on counters and single/multiple accounts are not correlated.

Why do you care? Are they harassing your gyms or something?

I don't get the outrage.

I have two accounts. My second one will probably hit 40 today as well. I use it with my two friends to do 4 person t5 raiding daily. How does that affect you?

They're both Valor, and it's just a functional raiding account. I don't understand why people have to get so upset by it. Sure the people using them to grief gyms and such is one thing but otherwise, who cares?

It's illegal to drive over the speed limit too. Are you also one of those people who says "It's called the speed LIMIT, because it's the LIMIT!"

Don't get me wrong I mean I've never spoofed/botted, I only have a couple pokemon I've found from scanners, and heck I wont even connect a gotcha to my main account for pure paranoia. That being said I also don't really care much if people spoof anymore either.

Back in the old gym system when people would spoof/bot it completely ruined the gym system. Now, for the most part they don't really harm anyone. If they want to spoof to get their pokemon/raid then whatever that is their choice. It doesn't affect me. If they steal a raid spot from a local, you can just do a private group, etc.

It goes right along with people using a spoofer alt to trade pokemon to a "legit" account. It doesn't really change anything. Maybe it will prevent their legit account from ever getting banned from spoofing, but its the same principle anyway. You can spoof on an alt and trade to your main, but you're still cheating. You still didn't actually earn that. If your friend goes on vacation and logs into your account and pops in a regional for you, you may as well have spoofed. Still didn't earn that Pokemon.

That being said, again who cares? It doesn't affect me or you for them to do that. If their choice of play style isn't harming yours then who cares?

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Original Poster5 points · 10 hours ago

How does that affect you?

They're both Valor,

Non-Valor legit (i.e. single-account) players raiding with you will get reduced damage bonuses (and therefore less balls and less rewards) because your two level 40 accounts will get a big chunk of the total damage.

How many do you have? I have 6 so far.

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3 points · 15 hours ago

Around 10. But I kept most of them just for trading purposes (e.g. a female CP666 Mr. Mime named Lucy Fer).

Haha, that name made my day!

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4 points · 14 hours ago

OK then bonus names:
- CP666 Aron named Charon
- CP666 Machop named Hellchop
- CP666 Minun and Plusle named -666 and +666
- CP666 Electrike named Electrodevil
- CP666 Koffing named Hell Smell
- CP666 Slowpoke named Satanpoke
- CP666 Teddiursa named Bearzebub
- CP666 Omanyte named Demonyte

Trick: finish an excellent throw quest with quested Wailmer, Slowpoke, Golduck, etc. (not Magikarp!).

5 points · 16 hours ago

Higher Defense => lasts longer in battle => less time in fainted status => lower TTW.

Lower Defense => more energy gained through HP lost => more frequent charge moves => higher DPS => lower TTW.

Which of those effects is greater depends on the specific IVs, level and matchup.

1 point · 2 days ago

r/pogoraids Leaderboard is almost the de facto world record keeping standard for raids.

2 points · 2 days ago

The biggest bar is always 100% long, so if yours was almost half the size you did ~45% of the damage, which looks plausible with your lineup.

3 points · 2 days ago

I'm worried that reducing stardust costs and increasing battle effectiveness will lead to a lot of "friendly" multiple accounts.

2 points · 2 days ago

Did you try to change locations while the encounter was on?

Original Poster2 points · 2 days ago

No - eggs use level 20. But yes, you're correct, if you catch a Pokémon at the same place you get an egg from, the locations can and often are different. Level 10 vs. 20 is a huge difference, the steps are almost exponential.

In case you were wondering, a level 20 cell is like a 10-meter square. So basically it's as precise as the exact Pokéstop you got the egg from. See this site for some statistics if you're curious.

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2 points · 2 days ago

The steps are literally exponential. Level 10 is 210=1024 times long as level 20, and has a 1 million times larger area.

1 point · 2 days ago

Weedle twice. Rattata even more times but still less than 0.5% of the times.

2 points · 2 days ago

SD/RS Rhyperior would have same DPS and 15-20% more TDO.

If Rhyperior doesn't get Rock Slide, Ttar is still faster.

Anyway Rampardos will be much, much faster than both.

1 point · 2 days ago

It's a group of players on WhatsApp/Discord/Telegram/Line who report raids and sign up in formal/informal way in order to show up in sufficient numbers at Tier 4 or Tier 5 raids.

To find one, check the Silph League or show up at a legendary raid at the busiest gym in your area in an after-work or weekend time slot on the first 3 days after its release.

1 point · 2 days ago

No, I see them only in Snow.

Haven't seen Snorunt after the Ice event at all, which is semi-unfortunate because I was nearing Gold for my Ice Medal by the time that event ended. I live in Northern California though, and am not as close to the mountains as other people, so that probably has something to do with it.

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3 points · 2 days ago

At least for the Ice medal you can go to Jynx/Swinub/Spheal/Sneasel nests.

1 point · 2 days ago

Play a bit with my Choose Your Attackers v12.0 Lite spreadsheet to get a feeling of what the best attacking movesets are against the most common defenders/raid bosses.

Defending movesets are in my opinion pointless, since with motivation loss every gym becomes trivial after a few hours.

1 point · 2 days ago

15-18 strong multi-bar Electric or Grass attackers: e.g. Jolteon, Zapdos, Sceptile, Victreebel, Venusaur, with moves such as Thunderbolt, Discharge, Leaf Blade and Frenzy Plant.

And above all, convince everyone else to:
1) use them instead of the autoselected Cloyster and Aggron;
2) have Battle Parties ready 1 swipe and 2 swipes away.

Original Poster1 point · 3 days ago

How do you feel about a.golem with spark and wild charge vs ts/wc raikou?

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1 point · 3 days ago

That should be quite good, maybe 90% DPS or so.

2 points · 3 days ago

Oh yes, so much this. I have to keep my phone media always muted due to this.

I force close the app all the time but I've never signed out. Why are you signing out all the time?

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2 points · 3 days ago

Because sometimes it gets stuck to half loading bar and the only reliable way to make it progress is to sign out and sign in again.

1 point · 4 days ago

I'd say that if you can prove that the damage doesn't increase, then it can count as non-boosted.

2 points · 4 days ago

I'm so excited to be able to fight for the 2nd-last place in the ranking :-)

1 point · 4 days ago

Rare Candies and those that I can do quickly enough to get new research from the next Pokéstop.

1 point · 4 days ago

What happened when you clicked on them? I expect Error(25) for one of you.

0 points · 5 days ago

Great research!

If it weren't for the Shiny Week, the Silph Road Research Group would be publishing the egg hatch rates.

Anyway your numbers are plausible and the sample size is good enough to be quite confident about the list of hatchable species and the rates above 5%.

Original Poster1 point · 5 days ago

It's 3 hydro pump, double waterfalls and a final 2 hydro pump over 40s with 2 other attackers. HP bar is not usable.

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1 point · 5 days ago

But if you have all 3 videos you can maybe count everyone's Hydro Pumps by checking when a larger chunk of HP goes away (timing it frame by frame by timestamping all 3 videos).

When your wife is away again :-)

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